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***Paris 2024 Summer Olympics: July 26-August 11*** USA dominates medal count; Finish tied w/ China for most golds - See ya in Milan 2026! (1 Viewer)

If I am reading the standings correctly, the US rugby win today gets them into the quarter finals. They won't know yet where since they may finish either 2nd or 3rd in their group but I think the 6 points assures them of advancing.

Is Rugby 7's set up that you get 1 point for losing, 2 points for a tie and 3 points for winning? That is the only way I see how the US got to 6 points.
 
If I am reading the standings correctly, the US rugby win today gets them into the quarter finals. They won't know yet where since they may finish either 2nd or 3rd in their group but I think the 6 points assures them of advancing.

Is Rugby 7's set up that you get 1 point for losing, 2 points for a tie and 3 points for winning? That is the only way I see how the US got to 6 points.
I think I heard this correctly: the US team will advance and are 3rd in their group due to France having a better point differential.
 
If I am reading the standings correctly, the US rugby win today gets them into the quarter finals. They won't know yet where since they may finish either 2nd or 3rd in their group but I think the 6 points assures them of advancing.

Is Rugby 7's set up that you get 1 point for losing, 2 points for a tie and 3 points for winning? That is the only way I see how the US got to 6 points.

Correct on the scoring
 
If I am reading the standings correctly, the US rugby win today gets them into the quarter finals. They won't know yet where since they may finish either 2nd or 3rd in their group but I think the 6 points assures them of advancing.

Is Rugby 7's set up that you get 1 point for losing, 2 points for a tie and 3 points for winning? That is the only way I see how the US got to 6 points.
I think I heard this correctly: the US team will advance and are 3rd in their group due to France having a better point differential.

Correct - US is third in the group based on point differential, but has qualified. Fiji finished first in our group with an impressive +61 point differential in three wins. Fiji are the two-time defending gold medalists.

It looks like the US will play Australia later today.
 
Didn't see an Olympics thread and I did one for the 2020(1) games, so thought I'd fire up a new one for this year. Starting to see lots of buzz with all the trials going on, etc. Getting pumped to watch again!

Here's the schedule for this year:

TV schedule (thanks @GregR !):
For the streamers - a list of tv channels by country to watch it. Most of the countries show different events than here.

https://www.jagranjosh.com/general-knowledge/paris-olympics-2024-live-streaming-channels-apps-1721738148-1
 
Lebron voted by Olympians to be the male flag bearer. Good for him. The female flag bearer chosen tomorrow. If it isn't Ledecky I'll eat my hat.
I just saw this and it may be an unpopular opinion, but I wish the flag bearer was a more traditional Olympic athlete instead of Lebron. He's had 1000 moments in the spotlight and it would be cool for someone a little more obscure to get theirs. Sounds like the athletes voted for him though which makes me feel a bit better about it.
 
Lebron voted by Olympians to be the male flag bearer. Good for him. The female flag bearer chosen tomorrow. If it isn't Ledecky I'll eat my hat.
I just saw this and it may be an unpopular opinion, but I wish the flag bearer was a more traditional Olympic athlete instead of Lebron. He's had 1000 moments in the spotlight and it would be cool for someone a little more obscure to get theirs. Sounds like the athletes voted for him though which makes me feel a bit better about it.
How's that hat tasting @Sand ?
 
the women's 400m freestyle showdown that goes Saturday at Paris 2024.

2016 Olympics Katie Ledecky won in 3:56.46
2021 Olympics Ariarne Titmus won in 3:56.69

Canadian Summer McIntosh held the WR for a bit in 3:56.08. Titmus has it back in 3:55.38.

Really looking forward to this one. :excited:
Good call on this being an exciting race. Ledecky is probably still the heavy favorite at 800 and hasn't lost in the 1500 in something like 13 years, but I think she's an underdog here.
 
of all the olympic sports that i don't understand, and there are a lot of them, i understand rugby the least

just watched a guy get tackled, fumble the ball, the opponent scoop and kick the ball way downfield where no one was.. out of bounds.. and the announcers commenting remarked how amazing the play was by both teams.

no idea what's going on
 
of all the olympic sports that i don't understand, and there are a lot of them, i understand rugby the least

just watched a guy get tackled, fumble the ball, the opponent scoop and kick the ball way downfield where no one was.. out of bounds.. and the announcers commenting remarked how amazing the play was by both teams.

no idea what's going on
When we first discovered curling (Vancouver Olympics), we found that reading the rules on Wikipedia was a big help.

It also helped that those announcers were terrific.
 
It is getting worse

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TSN

@TSN_Sports

Canada's men's and women's soccer teams have relied on drones and spying for years, sources say. Coaching staff and contractors working with Canada’s men’s and women’s national soccer teams have been engaged for years in efforts to film the closed-door training sessions of their opponents, including during the women’s gold-medal winning Olympic tournament in 2021, sources told TSN
 
It is getting worse

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TSN
@TSN_Sports

Canada's men's and women's soccer teams have relied on drones and spying for years, sources say. Coaching staff and contractors working with Canada’s men’s and women’s national soccer teams have been engaged for years in efforts to film the closed-door training sessions of their opponents, including during the women’s gold-medal winning Olympic tournament in 2021, sources told TSN

Somewhere, Bill Belichick is smiling.
 
of all the olympic sports that i don't understand, and there are a lot of them, i understand rugby the least

just watched a guy get tackled, fumble the ball, the opponent scoop and kick the ball way downfield where no one was.. out of bounds.. and the announcers commenting remarked how amazing the play was by both teams.

no idea what's going on
When we first discovered curling (Vancouver Olympics), we found that reading the rules on Wikipedia was a big help.

It also helped that those announcers were terrific.
good tip

where curling feels like it makes sense, nothing about rugby clicks for me. find myself watching it, though. probably time to learn the rules.
 
curling feels like it makes sense
It does? Nothing about curling makes sense. "Let's get these little brushes and sweep sweep sweep while we slide slide slide." And you can hit a stone with your stone, but you can do that here but not there, and you can't hit it too hard (far) or it's a foul. 😵‍💫

Seems fairly straight forward. Ever played shuffleboard?
 
curling feels like it makes sense
It does? Nothing about curling makes sense. "Let's get these little brushes and sweep sweep sweep while we slide slide slide." And you can hit a stone with your stone, but you can do that here but not there, and you can't hit it too hard (far) or it's a foul. 😵‍💫
There’s no foul for hitting it too hard
 
curling feels like it makes sense
It does? Nothing about curling makes sense. "Let's get these little brushes and sweep sweep sweep while we slide slide slide." And you can hit a stone with your stone, but you can do that here but not there, and you can't hit it too hard (far) or it's a foul. 😵‍💫
There’s no foul for hitting it too hard
I think I need to pay more attention to "curling"
 
of all the olympic sports that i don't understand, and there are a lot of them, i understand rugby the least

just watched a guy get tackled, fumble the ball, the opponent scoop and kick the ball way downfield where no one was.. out of bounds.. and the announcers commenting remarked how amazing the play was by both teams.

no idea what's going on
When we first discovered curling (Vancouver Olympics), we found that reading the rules on Wikipedia was a big help.

It also helped that those announcers were terrific.
good tip

where curling feels like it makes sense, nothing about rugby clicks for me. find myself watching it, though. probably time to learn the rules.

There are only three games left so maybe not worth it at this point. The first thing to know is Olympic rugby is - at best - “rugby lite” because it’s 7s. I watch a ton of rugby but only see 7s during the Olympics and don't otherwise bother because it's not very entertaining for me. However, it is popular, especially in the US. Second, it’s hard to understand rugby if you filter it through the American football lens. Think more soccer or hockey, forget about things like plays and downs. The gameplay in rugby is constant and when a ball carrier is tackled that’s when it gets interesting, rather than being the end of a “play.” When watching 7s, you naturally watch the ball but the key is spacing and creating overlaps so pay attention to how the defenders are lining up across the field as the ball is switched. Attacks are based on trying different things like spinning the ball wide, kicking ahead and keeping it tight to the scrum or ruck until you find a seam.

I thought 3 of the 4 quarterfinals were very entertaining games, with the exception being the dud the US put on against Australia.
 
of all the olympic sports that i don't understand, and there are a lot of them, i understand rugby the least

just watched a guy get tackled, fumble the ball, the opponent scoop and kick the ball way downfield where no one was.. out of bounds.. and the announcers commenting remarked how amazing the play was by both teams.

no idea what's going on
When we first discovered curling (Vancouver Olympics), we found that reading the rules on Wikipedia was a big help.

It also helped that those announcers were terrific.
good tip

where curling feels like it makes sense, nothing about rugby clicks for me. find myself watching it, though. probably time to learn the rules.

There are only three games left so maybe not worth it at this point. The first thing to know is Olympic rugby is - at best - “rugby lite” because it’s 7s. I watch a ton of rugby but only see 7s during the Olympics and don't otherwise bother because it's not very entertaining for me. However, it is popular, especially in the US. Second, it’s hard to understand rugby if you filter it through the American football lens. Think more soccer or hockey, forget about things like plays and downs. The gameplay in rugby is constant and when a ball carrier is tackled that’s when it gets interesting, rather than being the end of a “play.” When watching 7s, you naturally watch the ball but the key is spacing and creating overlaps so pay attention to how the defenders are lining up across the field as the ball is switched. Attacks are based on trying different things like spinning the ball wide, kicking ahead and keeping it tight to the scrum or ruck until you find a seam.

I thought 3 of the 4 quarterfinals were very entertaining games, with the exception being the dud the US put on against Australia.
What are the rules once someone is tackled? Why do they seem to just push the ball out behind them and why aren't opponents usually diving to get at that ball?
 
of all the olympic sports that i don't understand, and there are a lot of them, i understand rugby the least

just watched a guy get tackled, fumble the ball, the opponent scoop and kick the ball way downfield where no one was.. out of bounds.. and the announcers commenting remarked how amazing the play was by both teams.

no idea what's going on
When we first discovered curling (Vancouver Olympics), we found that reading the rules on Wikipedia was a big help.

It also helped that those announcers were terrific.
good tip

where curling feels like it makes sense, nothing about rugby clicks for me. find myself watching it, though. probably time to learn the rules.

There are only three games left so maybe not worth it at this point. The first thing to know is Olympic rugby is - at best - “rugby lite” because it’s 7s. I watch a ton of rugby but only see 7s during the Olympics and don't otherwise bother because it's not very entertaining for me. However, it is popular, especially in the US. Second, it’s hard to understand rugby if you filter it through the American football lens. Think more soccer or hockey, forget about things like plays and downs. The gameplay in rugby is constant and when a ball carrier is tackled that’s when it gets interesting, rather than being the end of a “play.” When watching 7s, you naturally watch the ball but the key is spacing and creating overlaps so pay attention to how the defenders are lining up across the field as the ball is switched. Attacks are based on trying different things like spinning the ball wide, kicking ahead and keeping it tight to the scrum or ruck until you find a seam.

I thought 3 of the 4 quarterfinals were very entertaining games, with the exception being the dud the US put on against Australia.
What are the rules once someone is tackled? Why do they seem to just push the ball out behind them and why aren't opponents usually diving to get at that ball?

Despite appearances, rugby is really highly-regulated chaos. I first played when I lived in New Zealand as a teenager in the 80's and have been a big fan ever since but still often don't know why the ref has blown a whistle until seeing the replay. When a player is tackled and goes to ground, he has to release the ball. Typically, there are at least 2-3 players involved and a ruck is formed (if he is tackled and no ruck is formed, he can just pick up the ball and keep running. This happens pretty often in 7s, is more rare in 15s.) If the player does not go to ground and is held up, that's a "maul" and different rules apply. In a ruck, the first thing to understand is the offside rules. I can't fully explain the offside rule here but suffice it to say players generally have to stay on their side of the offside line - they can't run around back and attack the ruck from the opposing team's side. In rugby, players can never pass forward or knock the ball forward with their hands - that's a penalty. Also, once a ruck is formed, the ball is released (typically by moving it back toward your players) and then no one can put their hands on the ball in the ruck - only feet can be used to work it out. So if a defender dives into a ruck and is offside or reaches in and puts his hands on the ball, that's a penalty. This all typically happens very quickly, especially in 7s, but it is a huge part of the game - the attacking side using rucks to maintain possession, re-organize and form the next phase attack or, alternatively, the defense stealing the ball in a ruck by overpowering the other team or forcing a penalty. In open play as you see phase after phase of - run, tackle, ruck, run tackle, ruck and the ball is switched wide from side to side - what you're looking for is seeing the defense get disorganized as the big guys find themselves out wide and the smaller fast guys find themselves stuck in the rucks like fish out of water, and after several phases of this they are all out of position and that's when the attacking team can create 2 v 1 situations or find seams to break through.
 
Didn't see an Olympics thread and I did one for the 2020(1) games, so thought I'd fire up a new one for this year. Starting to see lots of buzz with all the trials going on, etc. Getting pumped to watch again!

Here's the schedule for this year:

TV schedule (thanks @GregR !):
For the streamers - a list of tv channels by country to watch it. Most of the countries show different events than here.

https://www.jagranjosh.com/general-...024-live-streaming-channels-apps-1721738148-1
thanks! adding it to the O.P.
 
of all the olympic sports that i don't understand, and there are a lot of them, i understand rugby the least

just watched a guy get tackled, fumble the ball, the opponent scoop and kick the ball way downfield where no one was.. out of bounds.. and the announcers commenting remarked how amazing the play was by both teams.

no idea what's going on
When we first discovered curling (Vancouver Olympics), we found that reading the rules on Wikipedia was a big help.

It also helped that those announcers were terrific.
good tip

where curling feels like it makes sense, nothing about rugby clicks for me. find myself watching it, though. probably time to learn the rules.

There are only three games left so maybe not worth it at this point. The first thing to know is Olympic rugby is - at best - “rugby lite” because it’s 7s. I watch a ton of rugby but only see 7s during the Olympics and don't otherwise bother because it's not very entertaining for me. However, it is popular, especially in the US. Second, it’s hard to understand rugby if you filter it through the American football lens. Think more soccer or hockey, forget about things like plays and downs. The gameplay in rugby is constant and when a ball carrier is tackled that’s when it gets interesting, rather than being the end of a “play.” When watching 7s, you naturally watch the ball but the key is spacing and creating overlaps so pay attention to how the defenders are lining up across the field as the ball is switched. Attacks are based on trying different things like spinning the ball wide, kicking ahead and keeping it tight to the scrum or ruck until you find a seam.

I thought 3 of the 4 quarterfinals were very entertaining games, with the exception being the dud the US put on against Australia.
i get some of the basics but how the guy being tackled can lay on the ball, then his teammate picks it up and continues play but the opponent .. apparently?.. can't touch it doesn't make sense to me.

then there are throws from OB to a guy who gets lifted in the air by his teammates... where the opposing team also lifts a guy in the air but he can't touch the ball? so it's like some sort of unnecessary performative scene... and there's some penalty for batting the ball the wrong direction?

i finished a game last night where the clock ran out but the winning team had the ball and instead of extra time or the clock ending the game, a player from the winning team ran around and the announcers were yelling for him to kick the ball OB to end the game. total mystery why that's necessary.


what constitutes a turnover or change of possession? seems like any time a player is tackled, there's a scrum and the tackled player's team gets to keep the ball until they score.

the only time i can recall (and forgive me, i don't watch a lot) a change in possession not resulting from a score is if a guy attempts a pass to a teammate but the ball is intercepted in the air and then i'm not even sure if the intercepting team retains possession.
 

4:15 mark. Why is this a foul on the US?

And the 5:30 mark. Why was Australia able to go "offsides" and grab the ball and score?
 
of all the olympic sports that i don't understand, and there are a lot of them, i understand rugby the least

just watched a guy get tackled, fumble the ball, the opponent scoop and kick the ball way downfield where no one was.. out of bounds.. and the announcers commenting remarked how amazing the play was by both teams.

no idea what's going on
When we first discovered curling (Vancouver Olympics), we found that reading the rules on Wikipedia was a big help.

It also helped that those announcers were terrific.
good tip

where curling feels like it makes sense, nothing about rugby clicks for me. find myself watching it, though. probably time to learn the rules.

There are only three games left so maybe not worth it at this point. The first thing to know is Olympic rugby is - at best - “rugby lite” because it’s 7s. I watch a ton of rugby but only see 7s during the Olympics and don't otherwise bother because it's not very entertaining for me. However, it is popular, especially in the US. Second, it’s hard to understand rugby if you filter it through the American football lens. Think more soccer or hockey, forget about things like plays and downs. The gameplay in rugby is constant and when a ball carrier is tackled that’s when it gets interesting, rather than being the end of a “play.” When watching 7s, you naturally watch the ball but the key is spacing and creating overlaps so pay attention to how the defenders are lining up across the field as the ball is switched. Attacks are based on trying different things like spinning the ball wide, kicking ahead and keeping it tight to the scrum or ruck until you find a seam.

I thought 3 of the 4 quarterfinals were very entertaining games, with the exception being the dud the US put on against Australia.
i get some of the basics but how the guy being tackled can lay on the ball, then his teammate picks it up and continues play but the opponent .. apparently?.. can't touch it doesn't make sense to me.

then there are throws from OB to a guy who gets lifted in the air by his teammates... where the opposing team also lifts a guy in the air but he can't touch the ball? so it's like some sort of unnecessary performative scene... and there's some penalty for batting the ball the wrong direction?

i finished a game last night where the clock ran out but the winning team had the ball and instead of extra time or the clock ending the game, a player from the winning team ran around and the announcers were yelling for him to kick the ball OB to end the game. total mystery why that's necessary.


what constitutes a turnover or change of possession? seems like any time a player is tackled, there's a scrum and the tackled player's team gets to keep the ball until they score.

the only time i can recall (and forgive me, i don't watch a lot) a change in possession not resulting from a score is if a guy attempts a pass to a teammate but the ball is intercepted in the air and then i'm not even sure if the intercepting team retains possession.

The lineout is a means to put the ball back into play when it goes OOB. The rules on lineouts are designed to give the team doing the throw-in - a strong advantage in keeping possession. They have to throw it down the middle of the lineout but they've secretly called a play so they will be retaining the ball most of the time.

When the clock runs out in rugby, the play continues until there is a deadball. It gets crazy at times as the losing team tries to continue play. Once the winning team gets possession they immediately kick it out to end the game. A player on the winning team who has the ball may not feel comfortable that he can get the ball out on a kick, so may be running toward a sideline or somehow trying to get in position to make sure he gets the ball out of play. If he kicks the ball and it stays in play, that's potentially a terrible mistake. This is very rarely an issue.

The turnover question is harder to answer as possession goes back and forth frequently in open play and resulting from penalties or the ball going out of bounds. For terminology, "scrums" are much more rare than rucks. Possession is very fluid, like in hockey - players are constantly transitioning from offense to defense. In 7s, it is very important that all 7 player on the field are sure tacklers, can all handle the ball well and run with it, and can all kick on the run when needed.
 

4:15 mark. Why is this a foul on the US?

And the 5:30 mark. Why was Australia able to go "offsides" and grab the ball and score?

At 4:15 - the US player is going over the top of the ruck to hit an Aussie. He's offside. He wasn't helped much by the guy on the ground who had crappy technique.
At 5:30 - there is no ruck formed here. The US left their guy alone. He reaches the ball back but there are no players bound to him so no ruck and no offside. This is probably a matter of fatigue and is maybe more common in 7s just due to having so few players on the field but is also due to US players being tactically unsound while the Aussie players understand the situation and know they can just grab the ball and score.
 

4:15 mark. Why is this a foul on the US?

And the 5:30 mark. Why was Australia able to go "offsides" and grab the ball and score?

At 4:15 - the US player is going over the top of the ruck to hit an Aussie. He's offside. He wasn't helped much by the guy on the ground who had crappy technique.
At 5:30 - there is no ruck formed here. The US left their guy alone. He reaches the ball back but there are no players bound to him so no ruck and no offside. This is probably a matter of fatigue and is maybe more common in 7s just due to having so few players on the field but is also due to US players being tactically unsound while the Aussie players understand the situation and know they can just grab the ball and score.
after the close of that game i heard one of the analysts say that the US played hard but lost because of a lack of nuance/understanding of the way rugby is played.

i took it to mean we have athletes but they are like 75% loaded on the rule book, the ins, outs and little tricks in the margins.
 
saw earlier on another source that at least 2 athletes weren't able to make it to the opening ceremonies because their train had to be rerouted due to this

from the sounds of it, probably lucky it wasn't an even bigger cluster; also saw that another attempted fire in another location was thwarted
 
curling feels like it makes sense
It does? Nothing about curling makes sense. "Let's get these little brushes and sweep sweep sweep while we slide slide slide." And you can hit a stone with your stone, but you can do that here but not there, and you can't hit it too hard (far) or it's a foul. 😵‍💫
to me it does. maybe it's the Wisconsin in me.
Yep and I have also went curling.
 
Was at work this afternoon, but looks like my local NBC station is going to replay some events and I'm guessing the opening ceremony, so will check it out.

Now that the ceremony is done, it's officially GO TIME!! LFG! 🏅🥈🥉
 

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