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He was 22/28 2tds 0 ints against them in the preseason this year.Let's see what the kid has against the Jaguars pass defense next game.
He was 22/28 2tds 0 ints against them in the preseason this year.Let's see what the kid has against the Jaguars pass defense next game.
BB may retire when Brady retires.The youngsters forget that prior to Parcells coming on-board this was one of the worst franchises in all of professional sports...it has seen some real ugly days...as long as BB is in-charge I feel totally confident things will get figured out...once he is gone is when I will start to worry...
Oh I remember it well.The youngsters forget that prior to Parcells coming on-board this was one of the worst franchises in all of professional sports...it has seen some real ugly days...as long as BB is in-charge I feel totally confident things will get figured out...once he is gone is when I will start to worry...
Who said they were morons?welcome to the whipsaw overreaction thread. first SF were morons for doing this trade, now NE were morons for doing this trade. bunch of old hens clucking in the chicken coop.
You never know...and if that is the case it is what it is (as BB would say)...nothing lasts forever but this run is lasting far longer than any Patriot fan could have hoped for and they are going to contend for another title or two before it is over...BB may retire when Brady retires.
What if he doesn't struggle?Which will tell you what? That a team with few offensive pieces struggles against the #1 pass defense & one of the top defenses in the NFL?
Not sure what your point is here. If Garapolo struggles against Jacksonville he sucks?![]()
Mo Lewis...changed history...another great moment in NY Jet history...Oh I remember it well.
i also remember Bledsoe being so solid before getting hurt that I was able to take Brady in the 7th round the next year because everyone thought he was a system QB who benefitted from the team and coaching rather than his own skill set.
man - amazing to think that one spear to Bledsoe’s chest changed history for the NFL.
And on terrible call (the Tuck Rule) perhaps equally so.
Then he’s THE MAN!What if he doesn't struggle?![]()
Then he’s THE MAN!
Why is this a question? If Garapolo struggles against JAX then he’ll do what’s expected.
If Garapolo excels then he’ll dramatically exceed expectations.
If someone jumps into a vat of razor blades, you’d expect him to get cut to ribbons.
If they emerge without so much as a nick, you’re impressed & surprised.
Nick Foles looked like a HOFer a few years ago with 28 tds / 2 ints, then he sucked, now he unsucks again. People are quick to judge.As a dynasty owner I am excited at how well he has performed this early, but let's not put him in the hall quite yet.
I’m not concerned in the slightest.I'm a 49ers fan who is interested to see how he does against the league's best pass defense. Your concern with my post is bizarre.
Stats show Nick foles has been pretty good qbr wise unless Jeff Fisher is his hcNick Foles looked like a HOFer a few years ago with 28 tds / 2 ints, then he sucked, now he unsucks again. People are quick to judge.
Great question...my Crystal ball is broken right now....if I'm John lynch I keep him and see...qb is the hardest thing to get....@bicycle_seat_sniffer
How many games before we're 80% confident he's the real deal (let's define that as playoff caliber QB? I know some guys like Winston look like the real deal and regress, but when did you know with Manning, River, Big Ben, Flacco, etc? Does the lack of a high acquisition cost increase the sample size needed? Let's say for fantasy purposes, how many games before you part with a pick equivalent to next year's 1st/2nd QB off the board?
And what if they didn't end up in the top 2 to get one of the top QBs? What if there was a clear drop off from 1 to 2 after the combine? Then they would be looking at multiple first round picks + like it cost Philly. On top of that, they risk investing in a very young player IN HOPES that he pans out rather than turning into a David Carr or Todd Marrinovich.Except for the fact that they now know they don’t need to spend that top 5-6 pick on a QB you mean?
because that’s worth a whooooooole lot towards helping SF.
Now they can grab an OT or an impact DL, or RB, or trade the pick to address multiple needs.
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Well, with the equivalent of you, me, and Goodwin (pronounced Gooooood-win) at Wide Receiver and Hot Sauce Guy's little brother at TE, I don't give JG much hope. You know, given the Jags are putting up HISTORIC NUMBERS.Let's see what the kid has against the Jaguars pass defense next game.
Yeah, isn't this pretty much true of EVERY QB Jeff Fisher coached?Stats show Nick foles has been pretty good qbr wise unless Jeff Fisher is his hc
The funny part is going to be when the Niners are stuck franchising JG in 2018, then the Pats win the super bowl that year and Brady rides off into the sunset and then JG resigns with the Pats for 2019.I bet NE wishes they had kept JG.
There was a different thread, and there were a quite of few vocal people that called the 49er's morons right after the trade.Who said they were morons?
Oh - I loved the move. So did all my friends. My texts blew up that day. Even my raider fan Niners haters friends called to say it was a good move. That’s when you know it’s good.There was a different thread, and there were a quite of few vocal people that called the 49er's morons right after the trade.
That’s so not going to happen. -lmaoThe funny part is going to be when the Niners are stuck franchising JG in 2018, then the Pats win the super bowl that year and Brady rides off into the sunset and then JG resigns with the Pats for 2019.
Yep. But while he's been great again this year, I think we've started to see a bit of a slip. Not a lot and he's still easily among the best this year, but I'd be really surprised if he's still playing well in 2019. That's really ####### impressive of course.Not gonna happen...they will ride Brady out until he actually drops and hopefully there is another Super Bowl or two that comes with it...while I usually agree with the year to early scenario (and BB has mastered it) this is the one and only exception and I honestly don't care if it means a couple of tough years after it is over...I don't ever want to see Brady in another uni and while I am a big Jimmy G fan I trust BB can dig up a legit QB when it is time...
Yep. Barkley could slip to them (although I'd still keep Hyde), or they can probably get the wr of their choice to help Jimmy. Or maybe help their dl or secondary.Except for the fact that they now know they don’t need to spend that top 5-6 pick on a QB you mean?
because that’s worth a whooooooole lot towards helping SF.
Now they can grab an OT or an impact DL, or RB, or trade the pick to address multiple needs.
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Scooby beat me to it, but yeah. Fisher.Stats show Nick foles has been pretty good qbr wise unless Jeff Fisher is his hc
That's not going to happen. If JG proves himself he will get paid.The funny part is going to be when the Niners are stuck franchising JG in 2018, then the Pats win the super bowl that year and Brady rides off into the sunset and then JG resigns with the Pats for 2019.
5 seems likely for Barkley - I wouldn’t want them to take a running back in the first round though.Yep. Barkley could slip to them (although I'd still keep Hyde), or they can probably get the wr of their choice to help Jimmy. Or maybe help their dl or secondary
BPA out of receiver or OL. Honestly their DBs are pretty good if all are healthy.5 seems likely for Barkley - I wouldn’t want them to take a running back in the first round though.
they need a replacement for Staley, WR help, & as you mentioned, DB help.
IMO RB is the last thing they need to address - Hyde is certainly serviceable & downright a quality option with a good run blocking offense of line, which the 49ers do not have. They can always grab a RB In the third or fourth round to get a plodding bruiser, which would be a nice complement to what Hyde brings.
A lot of mocks have Niners taking Barkley - but this is a HC / OC who seems to like role-players. Niners need a short yardage guy & maybe a scat back for COP/receiving.
I would prefer they invest in protection for what is likely to be a 24 million dollar a year investment.
True - a good pass rush will make them look better, too.BPA out of receiver or OL. Honestly their DBs are pretty good if all are healthy.
That's always the hope. Maybe Lynch will actually do what most of us wanted Robinson (Titans) to do last year. He certainly has been willing to move around so far.True - a good pass rush will make them look better, too.
My hope is another Team wants Barkley so the Niners can trade down one or two spots like they did last year with Mitch & the Bears.
Stockpile a couple of picks along with the player they want anyway.
You people take this so serious.That's not going to happen. If JG proves himself he will get paid.
Steve McNair?Yeah, isn't this pretty much true of EVERY QB Jeff Fisher coached?
It's a bad sign when you have to go back 12-20 years to find a QB he didn't ruin. Air's last couple years in Tennessee weren't good either.SproutDaddy said:Steve McNair?
I never said don't make the trade?? I think its a great trade.Hot Sauce Guy said:They likely would have traded their top 3 pick. Had they not obtained Garapolo they would have undoubtedly won 1, maybe 2 games.
so yeah - they drop off a few draft spots but they spent a 2nd for a semi-known commodity with huge upside instead of spending it on a college maybe.
IMO thats a trade-off they’d make 99/100 times.
Anyone expect any QB of the 2018 draft class to be as good or better than JimmyG?
You knew huh? Oracle of Delphi is in da house.JG undefeated as a 49er .. 3-0
JG undefeated as a starter 5-0
... and he has looked danmed good doing it.
All you doubters still think he wasn't worth a 1st and 4th?
He basically turned a cupcake of a franchise into a juggernaut. Single handedly.
Realistically it's going to take a miracle for SF to take down JAX or LAR, two of the top teams in the league ... but there's a chance.
Hindsight ... JG was probably worth a 1st and 2nd ... or CLE's 1st overall (honestly, wouldn't CLE be better off with JG instead of Miles Garrett?)
.. but some already knew this.
Shush your moufmsudaisy26 said:The funny part is going to be when the Niners are stuck franchising JG in 2018, then the Pats win the super bowl that year and Brady rides off into the sunset and then JG resigns with the Pats for 2019.
But you did get Brock.JG looks like a fairly legit QB. Not bad after coming to the team midseason and not exactly having good weapons around him. Too bad the Pats wouldnt trade him to the Browns.
I never said you said not to make the trade.I never said don't make the trade?? I think its a great trade.
That wasn’t the original plan.I just think its funny the original plan as to sit him (and lose) But they were forced (kinda) to play him and now they keep winning.
Clearly you didn’t have one. Enjoy your onward movement.You clearly don't get my point? Not a big deal. Moving on.
They were going to spend that first rounder in some way, shape, or form on a QB so in reality they went from getting a (unproven) QB and a high second to a QB (who looks to be the answer) and a pretty high first.packer_junkie said:Funny think is JG winning isn't really helping SF.... They went from picking 2nd to picking 6-10th.
No I did.I never said you said not to make the trade.![]()
That wasn’t the original plan.
the original plan was to sit him so he didn’t get hurt in what’s essentially a throw-away season.
the Niners were never planning on tanking - that was a byproduct of having a crappy team. But those of us who are local know that they explicitly stated they didn’t want to risk injury after dealing a high 2nd round pick for him.
Clearly you didn’t have one. Enjoy your onward movement.
Life long niner fan here and I will take the present situation over what you described all day every day.I
No I did.
Its really simple. Not sure what you have been arguing with me for?
Its awesome the 49ers got JG as cheap as they did and its awesome he's clearly shown he can be there next franchise qb.
It does however kind of stink that if they could have traded for him and held him out all year-- they could be picking 2nd or 3rd instead of 7th-10th.
Anyways, I'm moving on. Glad Jimmy G is good. NFL is better when the 49ers are good.
signed,
random packer fan & JG dynasty owner
Good.Life long niner fan here and I will take the present situation over what you described all day every day.
It's all good man, appreciate your insight. Sometimes we miss each other in here not being able to "hear" tone and sarcasm.Good.
#7 can be a superstar too-- or you might be able to trade down.
Ill see myself out.
I’m not arguing with you.I
No I did.
Its really simple. Not sure what you have been arguing with me for?
Its awesome the 49ers got JG as cheap as they did and its awesome he's clearly shown he can be there next franchise qb.
It does however kind of stink that if they could have traded for him and held him out all year-- they could be picking 2nd or 3rd instead of 7th-10th.
Anyways, I'm moving on. Glad Jimmy G is good. NFL is better when the 49ers are good.
signed,
random packer fan & JG dynasty owner
You knew huh? Oracle of Delphi is in da house.
Tell us who is going to be a great QB in the upcoming draft then toss out some lotto winners while yer at it.
Indeed.
For those that have not watched Garopollo play in preseasons the last 2 years and a game and a half of regular season this year... he looks like a Brady clone. Which is why many Patriot fans are clamoring for the team to keep him.
Calm in the pocket, goes thru reads quickly and gets rid of the ball. Strong enough arm and accurate. More mobile than Brady (not saying much) but he has decent wheels.
but it's not a question of "if" the Pats will trade him, the question is "which team" the Pats would be willing to trade him to.
If you are the Browns or 49ers, would you rather have a rookie that needs to be groomed for a year or two .... or a plug and play guy that has proven that he has the tools and that he gets it.
As a coach that has only 2 or 3 years to prove himself before he gets the axe ... guess which guy he would prefer.
Now lets talk about who the Patriots should take with the 49ers 1st pick ...
They seem to be set at WR with Malcolm Mitchell and if they can resign Michael Floyd ...
I'm thinking STUD pass rushing DE/LB.
Of course they’ll pay him. I’m just hoping they can work out a 5-year deal & avoid the franchise tag.Didn't see what happened with the pick at the end of the first half, but this dude just put 200 passing yards on the Jax D in the first half.
Pay him. Draft his OL protector with the first rounder.
It was just a bad pass. Didn't look like it was on Bourne.Didn't see what happened with the pick at the end of the first half, but this dude just put 200 passing yards on the Jax D in the first half.
Pay him. Draft his OL protector with the first rounder.
That's what I meant by pay him ...long term, not franchise tag...they have clearly seen what they need to see.Of course they’ll pay him. I’m just hoping they can work out a 5-year deal be avoid the franchise tag.
FIFYCleveland will burn their 1 on a QB that they will fail to develop.