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Pearls of Wisdom from Wade (1 Viewer)

Road Dogg

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And now I proudly present the two smartest things Wade Phillips has ever said:

Last week we got this:

"We've got a lot of good players," Phillips said. "If we had any coaching at all we'd be in good shape.'' Wade Phillips, talking to reporters, 10/13/2010

To be fair this was a very poor attempt at humor.

And yesterday we get this:

"Obviously, it's coaching," Phillips said. "We're going to keep working on it until we get it right." Wade Philips, post game, 10/17/2010

 
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For the record, a coaching change likely won't change anything. At this point it is not about making the team better this season, it is about purging the bad taste of Wade from the organization.

 
What specific mistakes has Wade made this year that has resulted in losses? This is not meant to be skepticism; I honestly don't know.

 
What specific mistakes has Wade made this year that has resulted in losses? This is not meant to be skepticism; I honestly don't know.
Lack of discipline and mental preparation and intensity seem to be the general complaints directed at him, and it's hard to argue those things being a product of poor leadership. The thing is that those problems clearly start with Jerry and not Wade. Wade will be fired of course, but unless Jerry hires someone both good and strong, and also gets his meddling fingers out of the operation of the team, nothing will change. Jerry's been following the same path that Al Davis has over the last 15 years. Hire weak personalities as head coaches so you can control what they do and even take credit when they succeed (and of course blame them when they fail). Each has had only one exception to that pattern, Gruden and Parcells, respectively, and not coincidentally both teams were at their best operating under those coaches. In short, the team has a leadership problem that starts at the very top. You can't feed a "star player" mentality by allowing the idea to develop that a player is less expendable than the head coach, and even that a player can approach Jerry directly if he's got a beef, including a beef with Wade.
 
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Sure would be nice to see a guy like Cowher as HC next season. Wonder if Jerry is more inclined to deal one of his running backs now.

 
Everyone is confused about the Cowboys. The media have been hyping them for years and the fans, Dallas Coaches and Dallas players bought it. This whole mystery goes away when you stand back and look at the entire team. They are what they are and they are not that talented as a team!

 
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Everyone is confused about the Cowboys. The media have been hyping them for years and the fans, Dallas Coaches and Dallas players bought ir. This whole mystery goes away when you stand back and look at the entire team. They are what they are and they are not that talented as a team!
i completely disagreethey have flaws, most teams do, but to say they are not talented is silly.
 
Everyone is confused about the Cowboys. The media have been hyping them for years and the fans, Dallas Coaches and Dallas players bought ir. This whole mystery goes away when you stand back and look at the entire team. They are what they are and they are not that talented as a team!
i completely disagreethey have flaws, most teams do, but to say they are not talented is silly.
I am saying they are not "that" talented as a team. Meaning they are not good enough to live up to the media hype. This team was palying the SB at home this year, the media wanted that and they pushed the story. The team believed them.
 
What specific mistakes has Wade made this year that has resulted in losses? This is not meant to be skepticism; I honestly don't know.
Allowing a penalty for excessive celebration to happen 2 weeks in a row, most coaches would address it after the first week and it wouldn't happen again...let alone the very next week. In the top 5 of penalized teams in the NFL, and the 4 ahead of them have played one more game...so I think its safe to assume the Dallas Cowboys are the most penalized on a per game basis (haven't looked up the stat)...that falls on coaching as well imo. He lacks emotion, he takes it too easy on the players and doesn't seem to hold them accountable for their mistakes. His presser each week is the same, "we have a very talented team, obviously, we just need to work on a few things and we will this week". Next week comes, same old presser after a disappointing loss. Wade needs to go as a HC, as a DC he is fine. Jason Garrett also needs to go, calling a passing play on a 3rd and 1 when Barber was 5 for 5 on the day converting short yardage...ridiculous. At LEAST he could have called a play action, but no he doesn't even call PA to play off of Barber's past conversions. Also, he called the screen to Felix Jones soooooo many times, and it rarely gained positive yards.
 
Everyone is confused about the Cowboys. The media have been hyping them for years and the fans, Dallas Coaches and Dallas players bought ir. This whole mystery goes away when you stand back and look at the entire team. They are what they are and they are not that talented as a team!
i completely disagreethey have flaws, most teams do, but to say they are not talented is silly.
I am saying they are not "that" talented as a team. Meaning they are not good enough to live up to the media hype. This team was palying the SB at home this year, the media wanted that and they pushed the story. The team believed them.
So you think the simply lack the talent to have a chance at making the super bowl?
 
What specific mistakes has Wade made this year that has resulted in losses? This is not meant to be skepticism; I honestly don't know.
Allowing a penalty for excessive celebration to happen 2 weeks in a row, most coaches would address it after the first week and it wouldn't happen again...let alone the very next week. In the top 5 of penalized teams in the NFL, and the 4 ahead of them have played one more game...so I think its safe to assume the Dallas Cowboys are the most penalized on a per game basis (haven't looked up the stat)...that falls on coaching as well imo. He lacks emotion, he takes it too easy on the players and doesn't seem to hold them accountable for their mistakes. His presser each week is the same, "we have a very talented team, obviously, we just need to work on a few things and we will this week". Next week comes, same old presser after a disappointing loss. Wade needs to go as a HC, as a DC he is fine. Jason Garrett also needs to go, calling a passing play on a 3rd and 1 when Barber was 5 for 5 on the day converting short yardage...ridiculous. At LEAST he could have called a play action, but no he doesn't even call PA to play off of Barber's past conversions. Also, he called the screen to Felix Jones soooooo many times, and it rarely gained positive yards.
Yup, that alone says a lot.
 
Everyone is confused about the Cowboys. The media have been hyping them for years and the fans, Dallas Coaches and Dallas players bought ir. This whole mystery goes away when you stand back and look at the entire team. They are what they are and they are not that talented as a team!
i completely disagreethey have flaws, most teams do, but to say they are not talented is silly.
I am saying they are not "that" talented as a team. Meaning they are not good enough to live up to the media hype. This team was palying the SB at home this year, the media wanted that and they pushed the story. The team believed them.
So you think the simply lack the talent to have a chance at making the super bowl?
They are not as talented as you think they are. Mystery solved. HTH
 
What specific mistakes has Wade made this year that has resulted in losses? This is not meant to be skepticism; I honestly don't know.
Lack of discipline and mental preparation and intensity seem to be the general complaints directed at him, and it's hard to argue those things being a product of poor leadership. The thing is that those problems clearly start with Jerry and not Wade. Wade will be fired of course, but unless Jerry hires someone both good and strong, and also gets his meddling fingers out of the operation of the team, nothing will change. Jerry's been following the same path that Al Davis has over the last 15 years. Hire weak personalities as head coaches so you can control what they do and even take credit when they succeed (and of course blame them when they fail). Each has had only one exception to that pattern, Gruden and Parcells, respectively, and not coincidentally both teams were at their best operating under those coaches.

In short, the team has a leadership problem that starts at the very top. You can't feed a "star player" mentality by allowing the idea to develop that a player is less expendable than the head coach, and even that a player can approach Jerry directly if he's got a beef, including a beef with Wade.
In some ways, I think Wade could be getting a bum rap. When a coach is intense or discipline oriented, and he's winning, those are seen as positive traits. But when he's losing, they turn in to negatives. See Tom Coughlin and Mike Singletary. But the same thing happens when a coach is stoic or player friendly. When he's winning, he's brilliant. But when he's losing, he's obviously got horrible coaching skills.Anymore, I don't get that interested in coaching styles. Most styles work at some point, and then they don't work at some point as well. I tend to lump style in with pep talks. Vastly over-rated in terms of a teams performance on the field.

Preparation and game planning, though, I do believe in. Are the 'boys going into games unprepared or with questionable gameplans? That speaks more to me about a coach's quality than his style does.

 
What specific mistakes has Wade made this year that has resulted in losses? This is not meant to be skepticism; I honestly don't know.
Lack of discipline and mental preparation and intensity seem to be the general complaints directed at him, and it's hard to argue those things being a product of poor leadership. The thing is that those problems clearly start with Jerry and not Wade. Wade will be fired of course, but unless Jerry hires someone both good and strong, and also gets his meddling fingers out of the operation of the team, nothing will change. Jerry's been following the same path that Al Davis has over the last 15 years. Hire weak personalities as head coaches so you can control what they do and even take credit when they succeed (and of course blame them when they fail). Each has had only one exception to that pattern, Gruden and Parcells, respectively, and not coincidentally both teams were at their best operating under those coaches.

In short, the team has a leadership problem that starts at the very top. You can't feed a "star player" mentality by allowing the idea to develop that a player is less expendable than the head coach, and even that a player can approach Jerry directly if he's got a beef, including a beef with Wade.
In some ways, I think Wade could be getting a bum rap. When a coach is intense or discipline oriented, and he's winning, those are seen as positive traits. But when he's losing, they turn in to negatives. See Tom Coughlin and Mike Singletary. But the same thing happens when a coach is stoic or player friendly. When he's winning, he's brilliant. But when he's losing, he's obviously got horrible coaching skills.Anymore, I don't get that interested in coaching styles. Most styles work at some point, and then they don't work at some point as well. I tend to lump style in with pep talks. Vastly over-rated in terms of a teams performance on the field.

Preparation and game planning, though, I do believe in. Are the 'boys going into games unprepared or with questionable gameplans? That speaks more to me about a coach's quality than his style does.
I'm not confusing style with quality. Tony Dungy was understated too. It's way to simplistic and frankly insulting to pretend that my argument consists of "shouting good, not-shouting bad." Even when they were winning last year, that never seemed like a tightly run ship the way that Dungy's teams were. It seemed like the proverbial happy scenario where winning cures all ills, but all it really does is paper over the lack of discipline and leadership on that team.

 
Everyone is confused about the Cowboys. The media have been hyping them for years and the fans, Dallas Coaches and Dallas players bought ir. This whole mystery goes away when you stand back and look at the entire team. They are what they are and they are not that talented as a team!
i completely disagreethey have flaws, most teams do, but to say they are not talented is silly.
I am saying they are not "that" talented as a team. Meaning they are not good enough to live up to the media hype. This team was palying the SB at home this year, the media wanted that and they pushed the story. The team believed them.
So you think the simply lack the talent to have a chance at making the super bowl?
They are not as talented as you think they are. Mystery solved. HTH
how do you know how talented I think they are?and, you did not answer my question. Poor fishing
 
DevilDog919 said:
Allowing a penalty for excessive celebration to happen 2 weeks in a row, most coaches would address it after the first week and it wouldn't happen again...let alone the very next week.
I wonder if some blame out to fall on Miles Austin's shoulders....crazy, I know...
 
Nightly Mistake said:
timschochet said:
What specific mistakes has Wade made this year that has resulted in losses? This is not meant to be skepticism; I honestly don't know.
Lack of discipline and mental preparation and intensity seem to be the general complaints directed at him, and it's hard to argue those things being a product of poor leadership. The thing is that those problems clearly start with Jerry and not Wade. Wade will be fired of course, but unless Jerry hires someone both good and strong, and also gets his meddling fingers out of the operation of the team, nothing will change. Jerry's been following the same path that Al Davis has over the last 15 years. Hire weak personalities as head coaches so you can control what they do and even take credit when they succeed (and of course blame them when they fail). Each has had only one exception to that pattern, Gruden and Parcells, respectively, and not coincidentally both teams were at their best operating under those coaches. In short, the team has a leadership problem that starts at the very top. You can't feed a "star player" mentality by allowing the idea to develop that a player is less expendable than the head coach, and even that a player can approach Jerry directly if he's got a beef, including a beef with Wade.
I can go along with that. Think about it - when was the last time Jones came down from his perch and wandered the sidelines looking for TV time when his team lost? Wade is who he is - a decent defensive coordinator trying to be a head coach. Most of the time when they show him on the sidelines he looks utterly and totally confused. The team shows very little discipline and, offensively at least, very little coherency. The running backs must be completely bewildered by now. As a Giants fan I hope he finishes the season as coach.
 
Nightly Mistake said:
JamesTheScot said:
Nightly Mistake said:
timschochet said:
What specific mistakes has Wade made this year that has resulted in losses? This is not meant to be skepticism; I honestly don't know.
Lack of discipline and mental preparation and intensity seem to be the general complaints directed at him, and it's hard to argue those things being a product of poor leadership. The thing is that those problems clearly start with Jerry and not Wade. Wade will be fired of course, but unless Jerry hires someone both good and strong, and also gets his meddling fingers out of the operation of the team, nothing will change. Jerry's been following the same path that Al Davis has over the last 15 years. Hire weak personalities as head coaches so you can control what they do and even take credit when they succeed (and of course blame them when they fail). Each has had only one exception to that pattern, Gruden and Parcells, respectively, and not coincidentally both teams were at their best operating under those coaches.

In short, the team has a leadership problem that starts at the very top. You can't feed a "star player" mentality by allowing the idea to develop that a player is less expendable than the head coach, and even that a player can approach Jerry directly if he's got a beef, including a beef with Wade.
In some ways, I think Wade could be getting a bum rap. When a coach is intense or discipline oriented, and he's winning, those are seen as positive traits. But when he's losing, they turn in to negatives. See Tom Coughlin and Mike Singletary. But the same thing happens when a coach is stoic or player friendly. When he's winning, he's brilliant. But when he's losing, he's obviously got horrible coaching skills.Anymore, I don't get that interested in coaching styles. Most styles work at some point, and then they don't work at some point as well. I tend to lump style in with pep talks. Vastly over-rated in terms of a teams performance on the field.

Preparation and game planning, though, I do believe in. Are the 'boys going into games unprepared or with questionable gameplans? That speaks more to me about a coach's quality than his style does.
I'm not confusing style with quality. Tony Dungy was understated too. It's way to simplistic and frankly insulting to pretend that my argument consists of "shouting good, not-shouting bad." Even when they were winning last year, that never seemed like a tightly run ship the way that Dungy's teams were. It seemed like the proverbial happy scenario where winning cures all ills, but all it really does is paper over the lack of discipline and leadership on that team.
I believe Tony Dungy's players respected him, Wade's players don't.
 
personally, i'd rather have bamboo spikes shoved under my fingernails than listen to a wade philips presser.

and this has nothing to do anything other than he sounds half wasted on morphine. he's boring.

 
Nightly Mistake said:
JamesTheScot said:
Nightly Mistake said:
timschochet said:
What specific mistakes has Wade made this year that has resulted in losses? This is not meant to be skepticism; I honestly don't know.
Lack of discipline and mental preparation and intensity seem to be the general complaints directed at him, and it's hard to argue those things being a product of poor leadership. The thing is that those problems clearly start with Jerry and not Wade. Wade will be fired of course, but unless Jerry hires someone both good and strong, and also gets his meddling fingers out of the operation of the team, nothing will change. Jerry's been following the same path that Al Davis has over the last 15 years. Hire weak personalities as head coaches so you can control what they do and even take credit when they succeed (and of course blame them when they fail). Each has had only one exception to that pattern, Gruden and Parcells, respectively, and not coincidentally both teams were at their best operating under those coaches.

In short, the team has a leadership problem that starts at the very top. You can't feed a "star player" mentality by allowing the idea to develop that a player is less expendable than the head coach, and even that a player can approach Jerry directly if he's got a beef, including a beef with Wade.
In some ways, I think Wade could be getting a bum rap. When a coach is intense or discipline oriented, and he's winning, those are seen as positive traits. But when he's losing, they turn in to negatives. See Tom Coughlin and Mike Singletary. But the same thing happens when a coach is stoic or player friendly. When he's winning, he's brilliant. But when he's losing, he's obviously got horrible coaching skills.Anymore, I don't get that interested in coaching styles. Most styles work at some point, and then they don't work at some point as well. I tend to lump style in with pep talks. Vastly over-rated in terms of a teams performance on the field.

Preparation and game planning, though, I do believe in. Are the 'boys going into games unprepared or with questionable gameplans? That speaks more to me about a coach's quality than his style does.
I'm not confusing style with quality. Tony Dungy was understated too. It's way to simplistic and frankly insulting to pretend that my argument consists of "shouting good, not-shouting bad." Even when they were winning last year, that never seemed like a tightly run ship the way that Dungy's teams were. It seemed like the proverbial happy scenario where winning cures all ills, but all it really does is paper over the lack of discipline and leadership on that team.
I believe Tony Dungy's players respected him, Wade's players don't.
Exactly.
 
Nightly Mistake said:
timschochet said:
What specific mistakes has Wade made this year that has resulted in losses? This is not meant to be skepticism; I honestly don't know.
Lack of discipline and mental preparation and intensity seem to be the general complaints directed at him, and it's hard to argue those things being a product of poor leadership. The thing is that those problems clearly start with Jerry and not Wade. Wade will be fired of course, but unless Jerry hires someone both good and strong, and also gets his meddling fingers out of the operation of the team, nothing will change. Jerry's been following the same path that Al Davis has over the last 15 years. Hire weak personalities as head coaches so you can control what they do and even take credit when they succeed (and of course blame them when they fail). Each has had only one exception to that pattern, Gruden and Parcells, respectively, and not coincidentally both teams were at their best operating under those coaches. In short, the team has a leadership problem that starts at the very top. You can't feed a "star player" mentality by allowing the idea to develop that a player is less expendable than the head coach, and even that a player can approach Jerry directly if he's got a beef, including a beef with Wade.
Mostly a good posting, although I disagree with Jones hiring week personalities. Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcells are both "type A" guys that got the job done. Without exception, the Cowboys have as much talent (if not more) then every team in the league. FOr example, their fourth best receiving option (Bryant) would be the #1 guy right now on at least a dozen teams. The offensive line isn't as good as years past but they are far from awful. Their front seven is fantastic.The issues plaguing the Cowboys are coaching related, mostly with regard to the discipline required of players to get the job done. Last week their captain received an unsportsmanlike penalty for diving in to the endzone to celebrate. SHouldn't a veteran leader of the team know better then to do such a thing? The botched end-of-the-half play early in the season that resulted in a touchdown when the team should have spiked the ball...the token starting of Barber then replacing him almost immediately...the absolute abomination that is special teams...defensive backs playing like they have no idea what's going on (as evidenced by last week's Washington TD that where replays showed Sensibaugh looking AWAY FROM THE PLAY despite being 3 yards from the receiver). Even Romo is reverting to throwing the ball to the defense.I am fearful of how good the Cowboys would be with someone like Cowher, Fisher, or Dungy at the helm. I would can Phillips immediately and replace him with Garrett. I have no idea what the results would be, but it is clear that Wade is causing more damage then help for this team.
 
I NEVER liked this hiring, he and the entire coaching staff should be out at the end of the season.

 

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