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Pick a Pair/Half Decade Album Draft - Bonus Rounds Thu & Fri - Pick three if you want (3 Viewers)

in any draft someone snipes trick of the tail, i become angry and despondent and I QUIT. 
Funny story. Last year I got into a keeper fantasy league. They needed a last minute replacement and I only know 1 guy in the league. It is an in person draft with an old school physical draft board but one of the guys was virtual on Zoom. In round 4, the virtual guy drafted Josh Allen but we had to inform that Allen was someone's keeper from the year before. The Zoom drafter very calmly goes "F--- this draft, I am not doing it" and just left. He didn't close the Zoom, just walked away and didn't come back for about 4 rounds. 

 
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Funny store. Last year I got into a keeper fantasy league. They needed a last minute replacement and I only know 1 guy in the league. It is an in person draft with an old school physical draft board but one of the guys was virtual on Zoom. In round 4, the virtual guy drafted Josh Allen but we had to inform that Allen was someone's keeper from the year before. The Zoom drafter very calmly goes "F--- this draft, I am not doing it" and just left. He didn't close the Zoom, just walked away and didn't come back for about 4 rounds. 
my response won't be that bad, probably some trip hop.

 
I think The Who's early stuff is similar to other bands who followed the British Invasion. They're are lots solid, well crafted Pop songs with a great rhythm section but Pete's songwriting is still constrained by Pop conventions.  If compilations were eligible, I'd take Meaty Beaty over the lot of 'em

Who's Next and Quadrophenia are exceptional in that nobody else ever sounded like them. I draw a blank when I try to think of a record that sounds similar which is quite rare in a genre that's notoriously imitative.  The last two albums with Moon have their moments and the ones from 80s do too only fewer.
You know, I've expressed lately, and have maybe just come to intellectualizing a thought that I've held for a long time, and it's part and parcel to the social, to the religious, really. It's along the lines that only the rarest of souls are better than conventional wisdom, better than consensus. I see this with tradition, too. That one is only as good as the wisdom received and learned from others that have come before.

I read a fascinating allegory recently, and typed it up in the PSF to no response. It was a Catholic author named G.K. Chesterton, and it tells the story of a young land reformer that wants to remove a fence on someone's land. He agitates for its removal, constantly making pleas to a central authority that has overseen the fence, seemingly useless, for many years now. "Why," he asks, "can the fence not be removed?" The authority, puzzled, sees no reason why, and allows the reformer to remove it from the land. Years go by, and one day, out of the blue, the farmer on the land dies, the cattle get loose, and storm the town. Chesteron asks, considering our own mortality and our own limitations, isn't it wiser to ask "What is the fence there to prevent?" The off chance of our own mortality, in this case, but the main point of the story is to ask anybody seeking change what exactly the rules are designed to prevent, and by removing those rules, what are we potentially allowing.

And that's, I suppose, where I come down on that. I think that even within art, strictures and structures are there for a reason. Now, not all reasons are created equal and will be given differing weight by different people. Is the job of art to entertain the listener or edify the creator? Is there a responsibility of the artist to the listener as a conversant, really? What is the function of the artist in relation to other people, to both appreciators of the art, and (gasp) consumers of art? To what does the artist owe commercial interests?

All these questions come to bear, some easier to answer for the creative soul and appreciator, others more difficult to really account for. And there are more, but for brevity's sake, I won't include them. But suffice it to say that I view the strictures of song, convention, and other people very important in appreciation of a work. Now, there are the Townsends of the world, who understand the rules, and understand them so well that they can break them, destroy them like an amplifier or a guitar at Monterey and have it turn out ducky. And that might be what you're appreciating. But what I appreciate, and this is me speaking, is the tension inherent in the rules and the rulebreaker. Where convention meets innovation -- that first burst -- is what I find so edifying to me. What can you do within the proscribed.

And thus it is with art and I. I love the pirate radio gimmick and the acknowledgement of both commerce and limitation of The Who Sell Out better than Pete unbridled by anything. One is expedient, rebellious, a creative reaction to a catalyst. Who's Next is Pete with a notepad. I find the former more interesting. Everybody's mileage may vary.

 
Neon Bible is one of those albums that'll grow on you after about a decade.
Funeral came out when I was 22 which was also when I was starting to use the internet to discover new music and new bands. Funeral blew me away and I listened obsessively and told all my friends about them so I wasn't exactly an unbiased listener but I liked (and still do like) Neon Bible as much as Funeral. It was instant love and still is. 

 
Funeral came out when I was 22 which was also when I was starting to use the internet to discover new music and new bands. Funeral blew me away and I listened obsessively and told all my friends about them so I wasn't exactly an unbiased listener but I liked (and still do like) Neon Bible as much as Funeral. It was instant love and still is. 
I always liked Neon Bible, just not as much as Funeral and Suburbs.  Was pretty let down when Neon Bible came out, but I really started to get into it maybe like 2013-ish.  I went back into my master Spotify list and it looks like 2013-14.  It's underappreciated, I think, because it's bookended by legendary albums; it gets a little unfairly forgotten.

 
I always liked Neon Bible, just not as much as Funeral and Suburbs.  Was pretty let down when Neon Bible came out, but I really started to get into it maybe like 2013-ish.  I went back into my master Spotify list and it looks like 2013-14.  It's underappreciated, I think, because it's bookended by legendary albums; it gets a little unfairly forgotten.
I get it and hopes were sooooo high after Funeral. That reverse hype probably helped Suburbs. IMO, Neon Bible is just as good as those. 

 
Thanks for the thought. If I loved The Who recordings of the '70s, you would have been right. As it was, My Generation was '65, and The Who were not to be for me. I didn't give their 2019 effort enough of a listen, but I know enough to know that '70s Who isn't totally my bag.

The Who Sell Out, My Generation, and A Quick One... are three of the finest rock and roll recordings I can think of, though.
Their 2019 album was actually better than I expected. I liked it. It’s not something that I could really work into my rotation though. I don’t even listen to The Who that much so when I do it’s likely one of the four albums draft - and obviously especially the first two.

 
Their 2019 album was actually better than I expected. I liked it. It’s not something that I could really work into my rotation though. I don’t even listen to The Who that much so when I do it’s likely one of the four albums draft - and obviously especially the first two.
 I had given it quick listen at one point and remember liking it better than I thought I would, but it wasn't The Who as I knew.

 
Their 2019 album was actually better than I expected. I liked it. It’s not something that I could really work into my rotation though. I don’t even listen to The Who that much so when I do it’s likely one of the four albums draft - and obviously especially the first two.


One of my hopes for this draft concept was to spotlight some late career highlights from classic bands.  So far, that hasn't happened.

The overwhelming majority of picks have come from adjacent half decades. I was just eyeballing it but I think the only picks that span more than a decade were the Live Dead and Spinal Tap.

 
Funeral came out when I was 22 which was also when I was starting to use the internet to discover new music and new bands. Funeral blew me away and I listened obsessively and told all my friends about them so I wasn't exactly an unbiased listener but I liked (and still do like) Neon Bible as much as Funeral. It was instant love and still is. 
Same.  I love all five (EP, Not EN) as I love my children.  Some days are different than others, but they are all top shelf.

 
One of my hopes for this draft concept was to spotlight some late career highlights from classic bands.  So far, that hasn't happened.

The overwhelming majority of picks have come from adjacent half decades. I was just eyeballing it but I think the only picks that span more than a decade were the Live Dead and Spinal Tap.
my tom petty 79 to 94

 
One thing that is cool with this draft  is focusing in on how bands change over and the different styles they develop. None of the albums I have sound the same at all which wasn't a conscious plan. 

 
One thing that is cool with this draft  is focusing in on how bands change over and the different styles they develop. None of the albums I have sound the same at all which wasn't a conscious plan. 
if i don't get sniped my next is a bit extreme in the change.

 
Joni Mitchell

1969 Clouds 

“Both Sides Now”

”Chelsea Morning”

1971 Blue 

“Carey”

”California”

I unabashedly love my folky singer songwriters. And Joni is at the top of the list. 
 

@Dr. Octopus

 
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Dr. Octopus said:
Round 4

Closing Time - Tom Waits (1973)

Swordfishtrombones - Tom Waits (1983)

I Hope That I Don't Fall In Love With You

Ol' 55

Underground

In The Neighborhood

If we're talking evolution in an artist's sound, this pairing surely exemplifies it. Waits voice was once pleasant and over the years it deteriorated to the point it was  turn off to some. It isn't to me. Perhaps to combat this, his 80s works became more jazzy and bombastic, straying far from his singer-songwriter beginnings.


Beautiful picks.  :heart:  

 
Dr. Octopus said:
If we're talking evolution in an artist's sound, this pairing surely exemplifies it. Waits voice was once pleasant and over the years it deteriorated to the point it was  turn off to some. It isn't to me. Perhaps to combat this, his 80s works became more jazzy and bombastic, straying far from his singer-songwriter beginnings


My theory has always been that his Island records were a reaction to being constrained by the retro boho character he'd created.

Waits is an unreliable narrator so it's probably something like his suitcase got stolen.

 
Doug B said:
All right, I gave everyone in the draft a chance to tap back into this band since they were first taken, but they've got too much good material to keep falling farther.

4.06: Queen

Live Killers
(6/22/1979, recorded 1/26 - 3/1/1979)
"We Will Rock You (Fast)"
"Don't Stop Me Now"
"Tie Your Mother Down"

The Game (1980)
"Another One Bites the Dust"
"Don't Try Suicide"
"Play the Game"
"Save Me"


Interesting that the Queen fans are picking albums from the second half of their career.

Me the old guy remembers their early 70s material most fondly.

 
Interesting that the Queen fans are picking albums from the second half of their career.

Me the old guy remembers their early 70s material most fondly.
I’ve been surprised by all four taken. By no means am I saying they’re not great - it’s just not the ones I expected either. My four favorite Queen albums would still be available if I wanted to go in that direction.

 
Like I said, I strongly considered him in round 1 and two of my top 3 of his are staring me in the face. A lot changed between these two albums and I get a wide range of Bowie here. 

David Bowie - Hunky Dory (1971)

Life on Mars

Oh! You Pretty Things

David Bowie - Low (1977)

Sound and Vision

Warszawa
There’s many days where I’d say Hunky Dory was my favorite but I went with the chalk, since I love it also. Low would have been my second choice from that era after Station to Station.

 
Interesting that the Queen fans are picking albums from the second half of their career.

Me the old guy remembers their early 70s material most fondly.


the queen was my first concert and Live Killers was one of a threesome that were my first big-boy albums I purchased myself. I love that album, and I like The Game too.

but to me, their earlier catalog should've been taken first. no offense to Mrs BSR, but I cant stand either of the albums she picked...and I'm obviously a fan of the band.

 

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