Planned Parenthood leaked video (1 Viewer)

[timschochet]

I mean really guys, the demonization of Planned Parenthood going on here is disgusting. This is an organization which is determined to help young girls in trouble, often who have nowhere else to turn. If you believe that abortion is wrong or should be illegal, fine. Change the law, if you can. But stop attacking this organization which is committed to doing good works.

 

[MaxThreshold]

I mean really guys, the demonization of Planned Parenthood going on here is disgusting. This is an organization which is determined to help young girls in trouble, often who have nowhere else to turn. If you believe that abortion is wrong or should be illegal, fine. Change the law, if you can. But stop attacking this organization which is committed to doing good works.

Selling dead baby parts is "doing good work"? You have PP stock?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

$200 donation sent.

Planned Parenthood has been good to people in my life.

I swear, no judging, but it cracks me up to see these PP guys/gals on the street asking for money when they already have millions. its like leaving a tip for Robert Kraft at a Pats game as a way to say thanks for all tge great football. How much money do they get from the Feds, the states and their baby parts business?

This is probably the worst analogy you have ever made in this forum.

Planned Parenthood is non-profit, and they never have enough money to pay for all of their services. Comparing the good work they do to Robert Kraft lining his pockets is...sick.

Ok so how much money do they get?

Eta - ah:

Revenues over the last 4 fiscal years (2010, 2011, 2012, 2013) have ranged from $1.199 billion in fiscal 2011 to $1.303 billion in 2013. Their fiscal year goes from July 1 to June 30.

Well that 200 should buy a PP doctor a nice bottle of wine for his next date, I'm sure it's appreciated.

 

[Fennis]

$200 donation sent.

Planned Parenthood has been good to people in my life.

How many abortions does $200 get you?

1 abortion is $150 at the free clinic

proof: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xkyz4e_getting-an-abortion_shortfilms

 

[tommyboy]

$200 donation sent.

Planned Parenthood has been good to people in my life.

I swear, no judging, but it cracks me up to see these PP guys/gals on the street asking for money when they already have millions. its like leaving a tip for Robert Kraft at a Pats game as a way to say thanks for all tge great football. How much money do they get from the Feds, the states and their baby parts business?

This is probably the worst analogy you have ever made in this forum.Planned Parenthood is non-profit, and they never have enough money to pay for all of their services. Comparing the good work they do to Robert Kraft lining his pockets is...sick.

You really don't understand non profits

 

[joffer]

I mean really guys, the demonization of Planned Parenthood going on here is disgusting. This is an organization which is determined to help young girls in trouble, often who have nowhere else to turn. If you believe that abortion is wrong or should be illegal, fine. Change the law, if you can. But stop attacking this organization which is committed to doing good works.

Hardly surprising, but I take comfort in the fact that as long as groups like the Center for Medical Progress are leading the attacks, led by people that make comments like the ones in this thread, their agenda isn't going anywhere.

 

[tommyboy]

I mean really guys, the demonization of Planned Parenthood going on here is disgusting. This is an organization which is determined to help young girls in trouble, often who have nowhere else to turn. If you believe that abortion is wrong or should be illegal, fine. Change the law, if you can. But stop attacking this organization which is committed to doing good works.

I don't think you understand this issue, at all

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

This part's good:

Grand Total Spent on 2014 Federal Elections: [SIZE=1.15em]$6,058,338[/SIZE]

http://www.opensecrets.org/outsidespending/detail.php?cmte=Planned%20Parenthood

So I guess the 200 could actually go to some politician's date he puts down to "campaign expenses with constituency".

 

[tommyboy]

$200 value menu:

Extra Chunky with large drink and side of fries

 

[tommyboy]

If black lives are the only ones that matter, I'm shocked the libs haven't boycotted PP based on the rampant killing they've done to black community.

 

[Fennis]

enjoy your food pro-lifers

http://wedonthaveitall.com/2013/01/products-that-use-aborted-fetal-tissue-pepsi-kraft-nestle-and-more.html

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

$200 donation sent.

Planned Parenthood has been good to people in my life.

How many abortions does $200 get you?

1 abortion is $150 at the free clinic

proof: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xkyz4e_getting-an-abortion_shortfilms

Another guy who liked "to help young girls in trouble."

 

[Homer J Simpson]

tim you better copy&paste my list of businesses that sponsor Planned Parenthood, because they scrubbed it from the internet

When has anything ever been "scrubbed from the internet"?

 

[MaxThreshold]

If black lives are the only ones that matter, I'm shocked the libs haven't boycotted PP based on the rampant killing they've done to black community.

Let's not forget PP was started with the intention of culling the black community and other "undesirables". Margaret Sanger was linked to the KKK and true believer in eugenics.

 

[tommyboy]

enjoy your food pro-lifers

http://wedonthaveitall.com/2013/01/products-that-use-aborted-fetal-tissue-pepsi-kraft-nestle-and-more.html

you keep saying "pro lifers"

do you realize many of us are in favor of legal abortion?

 

[tommyboy]

tim you better copy&paste my list of businesses that sponsor Planned Parenthood, because they scrubbed it from the internet

When has anything ever been "scrubbed from the internet"?

i might have been engaging in a bit of hyperbole

 

[Fennis]

enjoy your food pro-lifers

http://wedonthaveitall.com/2013/01/products-that-use-aborted-fetal-tissue-pepsi-kraft-nestle-and-more.html

you keep saying "pro lifers"

do you realize many of us are in favor of legal abortion?

baby parts are only put in the food stuff of pro-lifers. Everyone else gets the clean Pepsi

 

[Fennis]

If black lives are the only ones that matter, I'm shocked the libs haven't boycotted PP based on the rampant killing they've done to black community.

Let's not forget PP was started with the intention of culling the black community and other "undesirables". Margaret Sanger was linked to the KKK and true believer in eugenics.

We already did this earlier. The conclusion we all came to was that Margret Sanger was a hero who deservers to be on the $20 bill

 

[Steve Tasker]

Why is it that the people who are the most pro-life are the ones who make the most offensive comments?

 

[Sand]

I mean really guys, the demonization of Planned Parenthood going on here is disgusting. This is an organization which is determined to help young girls in trouble, often who have nowhere else to turn. If you believe that abortion is wrong or should be illegal, fine. Change the law, if you can. But stop attacking this organization which is committed to doing good works.

I don't say this lightly - what Planned Parenthood is doing here is just evil.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

I mean really guys, the demonization of Planned Parenthood going on here is disgusting. This is an organization which is determined to help young girls in trouble, often who have nowhere else to turn. If you believe that abortion is wrong or should be illegal, fine. Change the law, if you can. But stop attacking this organization which is committed to doing good works.

I don't say this lightly - what Planned Parenthood is doing here is just evil.

The abortions themselves or facilitating the donation of fetal tissue?

 

[Fennis]

I mean really guys, the demonization of Planned Parenthood going on here is disgusting. This is an organization which is determined to help young girls in trouble, often who have nowhere else to turn. If you believe that abortion is wrong or should be illegal, fine. Change the law, if you can. But stop attacking this organization which is committed to doing good works.

I don't say this lightly - what Planned Parenthood is doing here is just evil.

The abortions themselves or facilitating the donation of fetal tissue?

medical care or science?

 

[Sand]

I mean really guys, the demonization of Planned Parenthood going on here is disgusting. This is an organization which is determined to help young girls in trouble, often who have nowhere else to turn. If you believe that abortion is wrong or should be illegal, fine. Change the law, if you can. But stop attacking this organization which is committed to doing good works.

I don't say this lightly - what Planned Parenthood is doing here is just evil.

The abortions themselves or facilitating the donation of fetal tissue?

Ignoring the abortion part - dissecting and selling human body parts is repugnant.

We as a society ban the sale of human organs (for good reason).

 

[tommyGunZ]

Is "selling body parts" the new "death panels"?

 

[matuski]

I mean really guys, the demonization of Planned Parenthood going on here is disgusting. This is an organization which is determined to help young girls in trouble, often who have nowhere else to turn. If you believe that abortion is wrong or should be illegal, fine. Change the law, if you can. But stop attacking this organization which is committed to doing good works.

I don't say this lightly - what Planned Parenthood is doing here is just evil.

The abortions themselves or facilitating the donation of fetal tissue?

Ignoring the abortion part - dissecting and selling human body parts is repugnant.

We as a society ban the sale of human organs (for good reason).

I buy cadavers and dissect/do surgery on them for teaching purposes fairly often. For this to be banned I find it pretty easy to achieve.

Oh, and they are expensive.

eta - my choices range from full body to torso to leg to arm to hands to feet to head to just the heart or lungs... pretty much any way I need them sliced and diced I can get them.

 

[timschochet]

If black lives are the only ones that matter, I'm shocked the libs haven't boycotted PP based on the rampant killing they've done to black community.

Let's not forget PP was started with the intention of culling the black community and other "undesirables". Margaret Sanger was linked to the KKK and true believer in eugenics.

LOL how could anyone forget it? You guys have only repeated it about 18 times now.

 

[timschochet]

Hey I heard that Margaret Sanger was a racist who started Planned Parenthood as a means to kill black people.

Is that true?

 

[squistion]

Hey I heard that Margaret Sanger was a racist who started Planned Parenthood as a means to kill black people.

Is that true?

Not only is it true. It is found in their original mission statement.

Amazing that blacks, liberals, progressive and democrats all missed this fact.

 

[tommyboy]

Do people realize that with as many poor, at risk women who get birth control through planned parenthood that if they go away there would probably be a spike in abortion?

planned parenthood will survive without federal funding. they aren't going anywhere.

 

[matuski]

Do people realize that with as many poor, at risk women who get birth control through planned parenthood that if they go away there would probably be a spike in abortion?

planned parenthood will survive without federal funding. they aren't going anywhere.

You think you can pull a third of a business's resources and not have them shut a lot of doors?

Another poorly thought out post.

 

[Sand]

I mean really guys, the demonization of Planned Parenthood going on here is disgusting. This is an organization which is determined to help young girls in trouble, often who have nowhere else to turn. If you believe that abortion is wrong or should be illegal, fine. Change the law, if you can. But stop attacking this organization which is committed to doing good works.

I don't say this lightly - what Planned Parenthood is doing here is just evil.

The abortions themselves or facilitating the donation of fetal tissue?

Ignoring the abortion part - dissecting and selling human body parts is repugnant.

We as a society ban the sale of human organs (for good reason).

I buy cadavers and dissect/do surgery on them for teaching purposes fairly often. For this to be banned I find it pretty easy to achieve.

Oh, and they are expensive.

eta - my choices range from full body to torso to leg to arm to hands to feet to head to just the heart or lungs... pretty much any way I need them sliced and diced I can get them.

And I assume they come from cadavers that gave consent while they were alive?

 

[SIDA!]

Do people realize that with as many poor, at risk women who get birth control through planned parenthood that if they go away there would probably be a spike in abortion?

planned parenthood will survive without federal funding. they aren't going anywhere.

You think you can pull a third of a business's resources and not have them shut a lot of doors?

Another poorly thought out post.

Wait. They are a business now? I thought Tim was telling us that they are a nonprofit.

I am sure if the government cuts the funding that all the do-gooder liberals who support the rights of women will pitch in out of their own pocket like little Timmy...

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Is "selling body parts" the new "death panels"?

No, but word on the street is that medical procedures can be regulated now, is that true?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Do people realize that with as many poor, at risk women who get birth control through planned parenthood that if they go away there would probably be a spike in abortion?

True, it's complicated, this sounds like the sort of thing people should debate and vote on.

 

[timschochet]

Do people realize that with as many poor, at risk women who get birth control through planned parenthood that if they go away there would probably be a spike in abortion?

True, it's complicated, this sounds like the sort of thing people should debate and vote on.

Haven't our representatives already done this?

 

[urbanhack]

If black lives are the only ones that matter, I'm shocked the libs haven't boycotted PP based on the rampant killing they've done to black community.

Well damn....I bet you'd be shocked at the number of abortions all those pretty white girls get.

 

[matuski]

Is "selling body parts" the new "death panels"?

No, but word on the street is that medical procedures can be regulated now, is that true?

I think your inability to find ground to stand here is frustrating even yourself.

 

[matuski]

Do people realize that with as many poor, at risk women who get birth control through planned parenthood that if they go away there would probably be a spike in abortion?

planned parenthood will survive without federal funding. they aren't going anywhere.

You think you can pull a third of a business's resources and not have them shut a lot of doors?

Another poorly thought out post.

Wait. They are a business now? I thought Tim was telling us that they are a nonprofit.

I am sure if the government cuts the funding that all the do-gooder liberals who support the rights of women will pitch in out of their own pocket like little Timmy...

Are you under the impression that non profits are not ran as businesses for all intents and purposes?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Do people realize that with as many poor, at risk women who get birth control through planned parenthood that if they go away there would probably be a spike in abortion?

True, it's complicated, this sounds like the sort of thing people should debate and vote on.

Wasn't it Churchill who said that the best argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter?I don't trust most people to make logical, helpful decisions on issues like these. I think our founding fathers set up a good system with the supreme court.

Great quote from a guy who got thrown out of office at least a couple times.

However great, the USSC decided this on rights, so value judgements like which policy saves more lives or reduces abortions doesn't come into play.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Is "selling body parts" the new "death panels"?

No, but word on the street is that medical procedures can be regulated now, is that true?

I think your inability to find ground to stand here is frustrating even yourself.

I do believe we have established that the medical industry can indeed be regulated. I don't think that's more than a square of grass to stand on, it's enough to plant that point at least.

 

[bigbottom]

Do people realize that with as many poor, at risk women who get birth control through planned parenthood that if they go away there would probably be a spike in abortion?

True, it's complicated, this sounds like the sort of thing people should debate and vote on.

Wasn't it Churchill who said that the best argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter?I don't trust most people to make logical, helpful decisions on issues like these. I think our founding fathers set up a good system with the supreme court.

Great quote from a guy who got thrown out of office at least a couple times.

However great, the USSC decided this on rights, so value judgements like which policy saves more lives or reduces abortions doesn't come into play.

Sure it does. In the context of public funding.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Do people realize that with as many poor, at risk women who get birth control through planned parenthood that if they go away there would probably be a spike in abortion?

True, it's complicated, this sounds like the sort of thing people should debate and vote on.

Wasn't it Churchill who said that the best argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter?I don't trust most people to make logical, helpful decisions on issues like these. I think our founding fathers set up a good system with the supreme court.

Great quote from a guy who got thrown out of office at least a couple times.

However great, the USSC decided this on rights, so value judgements like which policy saves more lives or reduces abortions doesn't come into play.

Sure it does. In the context of public funding.

Oh well sure, good point.

 

[shader]

Do people realize that with as many poor, at risk women who get birth control through planned parenthood that if they go away there would probably be a spike in abortion?

True, it's complicated, this sounds like the sort of thing people should debate and vote on.

Wasn't it Churchill who said that the best argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter?I don't trust most people to make logical, helpful decisions on issues like these. I think our founding fathers set up a good system with the supreme court.

Great quote from a guy who got thrown out of office at least a couple times.

However great, the USSC decided this on rights, so value judgements like which policy saves more lives or reduces abortions doesn't come into play.

Cool, I guess? I'm still going to support the side that helps a lot of people and probably makes it so there are fewer aborted babies.

That sounds reasonable.

But its not.

Why are PP immune from criticism by so many in this thread? It boggles my mind. Do they do a lot of good? Sure probably so. But if they also do things that are appalling they need to be called out for it.

Does "supporting the side" of PP mean you blindly accept any and all negative actions, just because they happen to do some good works?

 

[MaxThreshold]

Do people realize that with as many poor, at risk women who get birth control through planned parenthood that if they go away there would probably be a spike in abortion?

True, it's complicated, this sounds like the sort of thing people should debate and vote on.

Wasn't it Churchill who said that the best argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter?I don't trust most people to make logical, helpful decisions on issues like these. I think our founding fathers set up a good system with the supreme court.

Great quote from a guy who got thrown out of office at least a couple times.

However great, the USSC decided this on rights, so value judgements like which policy saves more lives or reduces abortions doesn't come into play.

Cool, I guess? I'm still going to support the side that helps a lot of people and probably makes it so there are fewer aborted babies.

Right. The organization that churns out aborted babies like a fast food joint churns out burgers is actually preventing more abortions?

Their business model is dead babies = $$$$$$. No way are they going to slow that cash cow down.

 

[matuski]

Their business model is dead babies = $$$$$$. No way are they going to slow that cash cow down.

 

[Mister CIA]

File under things I wish would happen, but never will:

A commitment from both sides of the aisle to reducing the number of abortions.

Do the hooves of your high horse trample fetuses? Are you sure?

 

[shader]

Their business model is dead babies = $$$$$$. No way are they going to slow that cash cow down.

300,000 abortions a year at 800-1500 bucks a pop.

Yeah I'd say it's a cash cow.

 

[SIDA!]

Do people realize that with as many poor, at risk women who get birth control through planned parenthood that if they go away there would probably be a spike in abortion?

planned parenthood will survive without federal funding. they aren't going anywhere.

You think you can pull a third of a business's resources and not have them shut a lot of doors?

Another poorly thought out post.

Wait. They are a business now? I thought Tim was telling us that they are a nonprofit.

I am sure if the government cuts the funding that all the do-gooder liberals who support the rights of women will pitch in out of their own pocket like little Timmy...

Are you under the impression that non profits are not ran as businesses for all intents and purposes?

No. That wasn't the point I was making.

 

[Mister CIA]

Right. The organization that churns out aborted babies like a fast food joint churns out burgers is actually preventing more abortions?

Their business model is dead babies = $$$$$$. No way are they going to slow that cash cow down.

I don't figure I'm going to change anybody's mind in here, because most people simply reject something that doesn't fit their preconceptions, which you have demonstrated here nicely.

If you believe abortion is a holocaust where innocent babies get slaughtered by the millions, I'd expect you to be absolutely terrified that there's a chance the positions you are advancing will result in more dead babies. If you were more concerned with the politics of the Republican party and only used abortion as a tool to advance Republicanism, I'd expect you to brush anything off that doesn't fit your narrative.

I'll expect you to brush this post off in a similar manner.

Exactly the point I was trying to make; I'm not real good at making points.

 

[Sand]

Right. The organization that churns out aborted babies like a fast food joint churns out burgers is actually preventing more abortions?

Their business model is dead babies = $$$$$$. No way are they going to slow that cash cow down.

I don't figure I'm going to change anybody's mind in here, because most people simply reject something that doesn't fit their preconceptions, which you have demonstrated here nicely.

Actually I think you are correct. And there is no doubt the right to an abortion has been guaranteed since ~1973.

However, is it too much to ask that this organization not take dead babies, dissect them, and sell the parts? At least then they are inside the "constitutionally allowed indifference" line instead of over it into the "depraved indifference" area?