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Political Correctness gone insane (again)... (1 Viewer)

NAACP chapter president Harold Crumpton commended Dorsey for his swift action.
:rolleyes: What a joke
:goodposting: I don't see a single thing here that was anything close to cause for dismissal.

Gutless PC-phobes afraid of certain political backlash. Will someone, anyone, in power one day stand up to such ridiculousness? No chance.
I thought business' primary concern was earning profits, not taking moral stands.
 
be a "coup" if an African American were to be appointed as the commissioner of the NFL? I didn't realize that African Americans were attempting to overthrow the NFL? How does that even apply?
:rolleyes: Yeah, it wouldn't be a big deal at all for a black woman to run the most successful and profitable sports league made up of all white male owners with the exception of Georgia who is despised because of her gender.
I'm not saying it wouldn't be a big deal - you're right, it would be a HUGE deal.But to call it a "coup"...? That's probably the last word I would think of in that situation. When I read the story I honestly had NO idea what he meant to say instead of "coon" until it was pointed out.
coup

n 1: a sudden and decisive change of government illegally or by force [syn: coup d'etat, putsch, takeover] 2: a brilliant and notable success
 
be a "coup" if an African American were to be appointed as the commissioner of the NFL? I didn't realize that African Americans were attempting to overthrow the NFL? How does that even apply?
:rolleyes: Yeah, it wouldn't be a big deal at all for a black woman to run the most successful and profitable sports league made up of all white male owners with the exception of Georgia who is despised because of her gender.
I'm not saying it wouldn't be a big deal - you're right, it would be a HUGE deal.But to call it a "coup"...? That's probably the last word I would think of in that situation. When I read the story I honestly had NO idea what he meant to say instead of "coon" until it was pointed out.
At first, I thought "boon", as the NFL pushes hiring african americans.Although, I don't buy your 'publicity stunt' theory for a minute.

 
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be a "coup" if an African American were to be appointed as the commissioner of the NFL? I didn't realize that African Americans were attempting to overthrow the NFL? How does that even apply?
:rolleyes: Yeah, it wouldn't be a big deal at all for a black woman to run the most successful and profitable sports league made up of all white male owners with the exception of Georgia who is despised because of her gender.
I'm not saying it wouldn't be a big deal - you're right, it would be a HUGE deal.But to call it a "coup"...? That's probably the last word I would think of in that situation. When I read the story I honestly had NO idea what he meant to say instead of "coon" until it was pointed out.
I think it fits the context of what he was trying to say perfectly.
 
I think it's a shame this guy was fired. Condi should call the station and ask them to give him his job back.

 
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This is the first time this guy has ever had a radio job. He wasn't very comfortable for obvious reasons which is why he didn't hit the dump button.

I never heard it but I understand that he mispoke rather often. For example "hose" instead of "house".

Like I said earlier, he wasn't very good and wouldn't have lasted long. I feel sorry for the guy though that he has to go out this way.

 
be a "coup" if an African American were to be appointed as the commissioner of the NFL? I didn't realize that African Americans were attempting to overthrow the NFL? How does that even apply?
:rolleyes: Yeah, it wouldn't be a big deal at all for a black woman to run the most successful and profitable sports league made up of all white male owners with the exception of Georgia who is despised because of her gender.
I'm not saying it wouldn't be a big deal - you're right, it would be a HUGE deal.But to call it a "coup"...? That's probably the last word I would think of in that situation. When I read the story I honestly had NO idea what he meant to say instead of "coon" until it was pointed out.
I think it fits the context of what he was trying to say perfectly.
Yes it does.
 
Update**

This is the first time this guy has ever had a radio job. He wasn't very comfortable for obvious reasons which is why he didn't hit the dump button.

I never heard it but I understand that he mispoke rather often. For example "hose" instead of "house".

Like I said earlier, he wasn't very good and wouldn't have lasted long. I feel sorry for the guy though that he has to go out this way.
2 weeks into his first job where he has already made mistakes he makes this one...there's no way a station could keep him on.
 
Back in the 60's, in Milwaukee, the year after the riots a buddy of mine and I are hanging around outside St. Lukes Hospital one summer saturday morning waiting for my father to finish his rounds. My buddy asks what are we doing for dinner that night, kind of angling around for an invite. I say my dad is firing up the grill and we plan on having a bunch of the neighbors over so he is certain to be welcome as well. He asks which neighbors. I say the Kuhns and the Shines. The black grounds worker hears this, takes it wrong, and starts to go off on me. Right about then my dad walks out with Dr. Kuhns.

 
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Update**

This is the first time this guy has ever had a radio job. He wasn't very comfortable for obvious reasons which is why he didn't hit the dump button.

I never heard it but I understand that he mispoke rather often. For example "hose" instead of "house".

Like I said earlier, he wasn't very good and wouldn't have lasted long. I feel sorry for the guy though that he has to go out this way.
So this had absolutely nothing to do with political correctness but instead general incompetance. He wasn't fired because the world has "gone insane", but because his continued employment would have caused financial losses.
 
Update**

This is the first time this guy has ever had a radio job. He wasn't very comfortable for obvious reasons which is why he didn't hit the dump button.

I never heard it but I understand that he mispoke rather often. For example "hose" instead of "house".

Like I said earlier, he wasn't very good and wouldn't have lasted long. I feel sorry for the guy though that he has to go out this way.
So this had absolutely nothing to do with political correctness but instead general incompetance. He wasn't fired because the world has "gone insane", but because his continued employment would have caused financial losses.
Read the article. He was fired for exactly this incident.
 
Back in the 60's, in Milwaukee, the year after the riots a buddy of mine and I are hanging around outside St. Lukes Hospital one summer saturday morning waiting for my father to finish his rounds. My buddy asks what are we doing for dinner that night, kind of angling around for an invite. I say my dad is firing up the grill and we plan on having a bunch of the neighbors over so he is certain to be welcome as well. He asks which neighbors. I say the Kuhns and the Shines. The black grounds worker hears this, takes it wrong, and starts to go off on me. Right about then my dad walks out with Dr. Kuhns.
I sure hope you were fired...
 
Back in the 60's, in Milwaukee, the year after the riots a buddy of mine and I are hanging around outside St. Lukes Hospital one summer saturday morning waiting for my father to finish his rounds.  My buddy asks what  are  we doing for dinner that night,  kind of angling around for an invite.  I say my dad is firing up the grill and we plan on having a bunch of the neighbors over so he is certain to be welcome as well.  He asks which neighbors.  I say the Kuhns and the Shines.  The black grounds worker hears this, takes it wrong, and starts to go off on me.  Right about then my dad walks out with Dr. Kuhns.
I sure hope you were fired...
No, but I was baked.
 
This is one of those things that just makes you shake your head.  Guy loses his job for literally a slip of the tongue.  He was actually trying to be complimentary of one of our leaders (another mistake in this political climate, I guess).
so if he had said the "n" word, you would have been ok with it? what about any of the other racial epithets that are in use? what about anti-semitic? they aren't acceptable under any circumstances, i think. if he can't keep his act together while on the air then he has no business being on the air. what's silly is that you're chalking it up to political correctness. he wasn't mean spirited about the use of the word, i know, but it doesn't change the fact that it was said.

the difference between he and a louis farrakhan is that he can he held accountable for his stupidity.

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A slip of the tongue and you think the guy should be fired! You are one of the people that needs to get a clue. It's all you political correct people that have forgotten what common sense is.
 
This is one of those things that just makes you shake your head.  Guy loses his job for literally a slip of the tongue.  He was actually trying to be complimentary of one of our leaders (another mistake in this political climate, I guess).
so if he had said the "n" word, you would have been ok with it? what about any of the other racial epithets that are in use? what about anti-semitic? they aren't acceptable under any circumstances, i think. if he can't keep his act together while on the air then he has no business being on the air. what's silly is that you're chalking it up to political correctness. he wasn't mean spirited about the use of the word, i know, but it doesn't change the fact that it was said. the difference between he and a louis farrakhan is that he can he held accountable for his stupidity.
If he simply misspoke the word though don't you think it's a little harsh? I mean come on.
it's not like he's never going to work again. he misspoke, which i understand, but that doesn't make it ok. seriously, you think it's ok for him to use the n word? how about any other racial or ethnic slur? it's a zero tolerance thing for me. none of them are acceptable. he's not a victim but instead an idiot.
No, you are the idiot!
 
Update**

This is the first time this guy has ever had a radio job. He wasn't very comfortable for obvious reasons which is why he didn't hit the dump button.

I never heard it but I understand that he mispoke rather often. For example "hose" instead of "house".

Like I said earlier, he wasn't very good and wouldn't have lasted long. I feel sorry for the guy though that he has to go out this way.
So this had absolutely nothing to do with political correctness but instead general incompetance. He wasn't fired because the world has "gone insane", but because his continued employment would have caused financial losses.
Read the article. He was fired for exactly this incident.
Culmination of events.
 
be a "coup" if an African American were to be appointed as the commissioner of the NFL? I didn't realize that African Americans were attempting to overthrow the NFL? How does that even apply?
:rolleyes: Yeah, it wouldn't be a big deal at all for a black woman to run the most successful and profitable sports league made up of all white male owners with the exception of Georgia who is despised because of her gender.
I'm not saying it wouldn't be a big deal - you're right, it would be a HUGE deal.But to call it a "coup"...? That's probably the last word I would think of in that situation. When I read the story I honestly had NO idea what he meant to say instead of "coon" until it was pointed out.
coup

n 1: a sudden and decisive change of government illegally or by force [syn: coup d'etat, putsch, takeover] 2: a brilliant and notable success
Great - so you can use a dictionary to find an obscure use for a word. shame on me for not consulting Websters Unabridged before posting. :rolleyes:

My point was... there are about a dozen words he could have used in that sentence that come to mind before "coup". Even the poster who suggested "boon" - I think that's even a more likely word in this situation.

Radio shows tend to be more "scripted" than the average listener thinks. If the DJ's are good the listener never realizes it. A few people here have pointed out that this guy was only at the station a couple weeks, and it might have been his first on-air job - so I'm willing to back off the "conspiracy theory" that this was a staged event and believe that this was just his own incompetance. But I still maintain "coup" is an odd choice of words here.

 
I just listen to a reply of it on the radio on the way home and I think he meant to say it. I think he was trying to generate publicity for his show. He does say right after it "i am sorry" and does so about 5 or 6 times, but when he said it I got the feeling it was staged. My previous post was before I listen to it and in that post I was defending him.

Before you comment on this I think you need to listen to the moments leading up to him saying it.

I can't find a link for it online right now, but before anyone passes judgment on this guy they need to listen to it.

 
I dont undertand how the word coon comes out of his mouth if he meant to say coup.There is something more nefarious going on here

 
I just listen to a reply of it on the radio on the way home and I think he meant to say it. I think he was trying to generate publicity for his show. He does say right after it "i am sorry" and does so about 5 or 6 times, but when he said it I got the feeling it was staged. My previous post was before I listen to it and in that post I was defending him.

Before you comment on this I think you need to listen to the moments leading up to him saying it.

I can't find a link for it online right now, but before anyone passes judgment on this guy they need to listen to it.
I heard it and listen the station every day. Put on your :tinfoilhat: , this wasn't a publicity stunt & it wasn't on purpose. This was a very green DJ on the mic. Trust me.

KTRS, the station this guy was on, will be broadcasting Cardinal baseball this year for the first time. KMOX has had it for 45+ years or something. They also have the #1 show in St. Louis on in the afternoon. The Rams & Blues too.

The don't want this kind of publicity.

 
I dont undertand how the word coon comes out of his mouth if he meant to say coup.There is something more nefarious going on here
I know what you mean but I have mispronounced or written an incorrect word because I was distracted before. :shrug:
 
Let me guess, this guy was a conservative talk show host... I hate the double standard.

How the FXXX does Bryant Gumbel still have a job....

 
He also has been suspended from his teaching job now. He taught anatomy and neuroanatomy at Logan college.

 
He also has been suspended from his teaching job now. He taught anatomy and neuroanatomy at Logan college.
Are you serious?? Or is this some FFA reference I don't get? :confused:
 
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He also has been suspended from his teaching job now. He taught anatomy and neuroanatomy at Logan college.
Are you serious?? Or is this some FFA reference I don't get? :confused:
Unfortunately serious. He has taught there a couple of years and was suspended today.
 
He also has been suspended from his teaching job now. He taught anatomy and neuroanatomy at Logan college.
Are you serious?? Or is this some FFA reference I don't get? :confused:
Unfortunately serious. He has taught there a couple of years and was suspended today.
Damn, that is very lame. Either something much bigger went on that we don't know about, or people are over reacting big time.
 
He also has been suspended from his teaching job now. He taught anatomy and neuroanatomy at Logan college.
Are you serious?? Or is this some FFA reference I don't get? :confused:
Unfortunately serious. He has taught there a couple of years and was suspended today.
Damn, that is very lame. Either something much bigger went on that we don't know about, or people are over reacting big time.
Based on what I have read there is no more backstory but I guess that could change. So far I am leaning toward over reaction.
 
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be a "coup" if an African American were to be appointed as the commissioner of the NFL? I didn't realize that African Americans were attempting to overthrow the NFL? How does that even apply?
:rolleyes: Yeah, it wouldn't be a big deal at all for a black woman to run the most successful and profitable sports league made up of all white male owners with the exception of Georgia who is despised because of her gender.
I'm not saying it wouldn't be a big deal - you're right, it would be a HUGE deal.But to call it a "coup"...? That's probably the last word I would think of in that situation. When I read the story I honestly had NO idea what he meant to say instead of "coon" until it was pointed out.
coup

n 1: a sudden and decisive change of government illegally or by force [syn: coup d'etat, putsch, takeover] 2: a brilliant and notable success
Great - so you can use a dictionary to find an obscure use for a word. shame on me for not consulting Websters Unabridged before posting. :rolleyes:

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But I still maintain "coup" is an odd choice of words here.
It's not an obscure use of the word. I've probably heard the word used 100 times in the past year. In probably 75 of those 100 times it was not being used to refer to an illegal takeover of the government. Perhaps you need to hang around people with better vocabularies.
 
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be a "coup" if an African American were to be appointed as the commissioner of the NFL? I didn't realize that African Americans were attempting to overthrow the NFL? How does that even apply?
:rolleyes: Yeah, it wouldn't be a big deal at all for a black woman to run the most successful and profitable sports league made up of all white male owners with the exception of Georgia who is despised because of her gender.
I'm not saying it wouldn't be a big deal - you're right, it would be a HUGE deal.But to call it a "coup"...? That's probably the last word I would think of in that situation. When I read the story I honestly had NO idea what he meant to say instead of "coon" until it was pointed out.
coup

n 1: a sudden and decisive change of government illegally or by force [syn: coup d'etat, putsch, takeover] 2: a brilliant and notable success
Great - so you can use a dictionary to find an obscure use for a word. shame on me for not consulting Websters Unabridged before posting. :rolleyes:

My point was... there are about a dozen words he could have used in that sentence that come to mind before "coup". Even the poster who suggested "boon" - I think that's even a more likely word in this situation.

Radio shows tend to be more "scripted" than the average listener thinks. If the DJ's are good the listener never realizes it. A few people here have pointed out that this guy was only at the station a couple weeks, and it might have been his first on-air job - so I'm willing to back off the "conspiracy theory" that this was a staged event and believe that this was just his own incompetance. But I still maintain "coup" is an odd choice of words here.
That definition isn't obscure at all.Just admit it. Your vocabulary isn't very well developed is it?

"Coup" was an excellent word for this situation.

 
This is one of those things that just makes you shake your head. Guy loses his job for literally a slip of the tongue. He was actually trying to be complimentary of one of our leaders (another mistake in this political climate, I guess).
so if he had said the "n" word, you would have been ok with it? what about any of the other racial epithets that are in use? what about anti-semitic? they aren't acceptable under any circumstances, i think. if he can't keep his act together while on the air then he has no business being on the air. what's silly is that you're chalking it up to political correctness. he wasn't mean spirited about the use of the word, i know, but it doesn't change the fact that it was said. the difference between he and a louis farrakhan is that he can he held accountable for his stupidity.
I sincerely hope that everyone holds you to those same exceedingly high standards (absolutely NO accidents are allowed) in everything you do in your life.
 
I heard an interview with the guy this afternoon. His explanation that this was nothing more than a mistake seemed very sincere. But they also played the audio from the show and, admittedly, it did sound very strange. Almost like the immediate apology had been dubbed in or something.

 
Was he totally sorry?
If it came out the way it's being reported then there shouldn't be a need to apologize, period. Pointing out that he meant to say something else should be sufficient given the context in which it was spoke, but alas we live in a screwed up world who just look for reasons to bring people down. Too bad we don't have that same fire when it comes to dealing with actual criminals who we'd rather see walk then given due punishment.
 
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Was he totally sorry?
If it came out the way it's being reported then there shouldn't be a need to apologize, period. Pointing out that he meant to say something else should be sufficient given the context in which it was spoke, but alas we live in a screwed up world who just look for reasons to bring people down. Too bad we don't have that same fire when it comes to dealing with actual criminals who we'd rather see walk then given due punishment.
I believe he's talking about what the guy said on air after the 'slur'.
 
Sean Hannity played the clip on his show this afternoon. If you haven't heard the clip, but have only read the transcript (as in the OP), it might be hard to understand just why Lenahan is totally, totally innocent. But he is.

Lenahan appeared on the Hannity show as well, and gave the explanation that he was beginning a sentence with "a coup in (some field or another)". He kind of blanked out for a second mid-sentence, and stopped at "coup in ..." Then he tried to recall his thought and come up with a more emphatic sentence: "a big coup in ..." That's what it pretty much sounds like, too -- if you don't know that you're supposed to be listening for "coon", you may wonder what the fuss was about.

The context is all wrong for a racial slur. Lenahan spends thirty seconds praising Rice, and then ends it all with a frozen-thought slur? Dude slurred no one ... station boss overreacted ... it'll all blow over in a few months.

 
Sean Hannity played the clip on his show this afternoon. If you haven't heard the clip, but have only read the transcript (as in the OP), it might be hard to understand just why Lenahan is totally, totally innocent. But he is.

Lenahan appeared on the Hannity show as well, and gave the explanation that he was beginning a sentence with "a coup in (some field or another)". He kind of blanked out for a second mid-sentence, and stopped at "coup in ..." Then he tried to recall his thought and come up with a more emphatic sentence: "a big coup in ..." That's what it pretty much sounds like, too -- if you don't know that you're supposed to be listening for "coon", you may wonder what the fuss was about.

The context is all wrong for a racial slur. Lenahan spends thirty seconds praising Rice, and then ends it all with a frozen-thought slur? Dude slurred no one ... station boss overreacted ... it'll all blow over in a few months.
That's where I heard it as well. And I agree with your take. But when they played the recording, didn't the "I'm totally, totally, totally, totally sorry" sound like an overdub? It was really odd.
 
But to call it a "coup"...? That's probably the last word I would think of in that situation. When I read the story I honestly had NO idea what he meant to say instead of "coon" until it was pointed out.
You really have to hear the clip. It doesn't even really sound like "coon", expect maybe on a distracted half-listen.
 
That's where I heard it as well. And I agree with your take. But when they played the recording, didn't the "I'm totally, totally, totally, totally sorry" sound like an overdub? It was really odd.
Seemec like real time to me. This might have been one of those times where he'd have been better off just trudging forward with his commentary instead of just stopping to apologize like that. If only he could have collected himself for an instant before going on with the sentence.
 
Great - so you can use a dictionary to find an obscure use for a word. shame on me for not consulting Websters Unabridged before posting.

:rolleyes:

<snip>

But I still maintain "coup" is an odd choice of words here.
It's not an obscure use of the word. I've probably heard the word used 100 times in the past year. In probably 75 of those 100 times it was not being used to refer to an illegal takeover of the government. Perhaps you need to hang around people with better vocabularies.
To illustrate the point, here are a few posts from just this month where this so-called "obscure" definition of coup was used:
The thing that makes this a coup for Denver is that they move just in front of two division rivals, SD and KC @ 19 and 20. Thats worth just as much as whoever they get. All three rivals have soem of teh same weaknesses, such as WR.
Did anyone ever disclose what came in the bag of crap?

Just curious ... :popcorn:
My camera has been on the fritz, so I don't have pics, but here's what I got:1 POS pleather bag - one clip broke when I tried to open it

1 250 gig Western Digital hard drive with the note "use as a paperweight if inoperable No Warranty"

2 sets of RCA video cables

2 Virgin pulse 2.4 ghz cordless phones - one appeared to have been opened and re-packed.

4 blank DVD+R discs

1 T-shirt with some kind of :nerd: company logo on the front.

I think that was it.
Does the HD work? If so, you scored a serious coup there.
Latest from PFT:

[never mind, Raskell beat me to it]

If this is true, what a coup by the Vikings. The ink isn't even dry on the new CBA and teams are already finding loopholes.
I don't see a problem for any of the teams involved here.

1) Would Atlanta have gotten a better player at #15 than Abraham? Not a chance. And DE was an area of ABSOLUTE need for the Falcons. After (apparently) shoring up the safety position, the D-line was then next highest priority. And they got one of the premier d-ends in the game.

2) Would the Jets have been able to get more than the #29 for Abraham? Maybe, but likely not, otherwise they would have done just such a thing.

3) The Broncos are the big winner, of course. Trading some mid-round picks and an extra 1st to move up into the middle of an outstanding draft class? Major coup here.

Everyone got at least part of what they wanted. Whether one team got better of the deal than another remains to be seen. As a latent Broncos fan from the Elway era, I'm excited to see what they do with that #15. My money is on Lendale White. If he's gone, Chad Jackson.
i thought lewis & arrington clashed when lewis was WAS DC, over his notorious freelancing & undisciplined ways...

the article mentions poston contacted team, not the other way around... & he claims there is interest... hmmhh... i'd be a little sceptical of this... though if arrington could play more structured, or lewis could scheme around that quirky tendency, i could see how arrington would be a nice coup for the defense...

with that offense, if they improve the defense, they could have a legit shot at the super bowl (if they don't already)...
Denver RB update.

Mike Anderson was cut from Denver in order to get under the salary cap. Now that a new bargaining agreement has been reached, it is possible that Mike Anderson will return to the Broncos... but at this point, it's too late for him. The fact that they cut Anderson while trying to resign Dayne clearly shows what direction this team wants to go in right now. Again, as I said, there's always the possibility of Anderson resigning and having another mindblowing offseason... but it's a longshot, both in my eyes, and more importantly, in Shanahan's eyes.

I've heard some rumors that Denver might be shopping Tatum Bell, too. That's all they are at this point- rumors- but I don't think it would be a horrible idea. Every year that goes by makes it look less and less likely that Bell will step up and become the featured back. His value probably won't ever be higher, either, since he's coming off a near-1000 yard season and he averaged well over 5 yards per carry. It also fits with Denver's standard modus operandi- view RBs as replaceable. I mean, this is already the third straight year that Denver has let a 1,000 yard rusher go. If they can get compensated with a higher pick than the one they selected Bell with in the first place, I think they've performed a coup. They basically just rented the player for 2 years, traded him before he became anything other than dirt-cheap, and got a higher pick than the one they used in the first place in exchange.

Ron Dayne is absolutely, without question, the guy to get your hands on right now. This could all change if he decides to test the market and sign with another team, or if Denver drafts an RB in the first two rounds, but Shanahan is saying in no uncertain terms that Dayne is the guy he wants to lead his rushing attack next season.
There are plenty more, but I got bored.
 
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Lesson to be learned: Next time, pick a word with 3 letters or less before challenging BB on the usage. :unsure:

 
That's where I heard it as well.  And I agree with your take.  But when they played the recording, didn't the "I'm totally, totally, totally, totally sorry" sound like an overdub?  It was really odd.
Seemec like real time to me. This might have been one of those times where he'd have been better off just trudging forward with his commentary instead of just stopping to apologize like that. If only he could have collected himself for an instant before going on with the sentence.
Okay, just heard the tape again on Hannity and Colmes and you're right, it sounds like real time. It is absolutely clear to me that the guy just made a mistake.
 
achievement

success

triumph

victory

feat

accomplishment

...

Off the top of my head those all would be words that could have been used instead of "coup". Whatever... my vocab sucks and you win.

 
Off the top of my head those all would be words that could have been used instead of "coup". Whatever... my vocab sucks and you win.
Just because you can think of other words doesn't mean the one he chose was either wrong or unusual. I knew exactly what word he was going for.
 
Lately I've become convinced that they should just come here when something like this happens. If all sides agree here that there is nothing to be upset about, then that should be the final ruling. Sure would make some decisions a lot easier for a bunch of stupid people in power.

 
Lately I've become convinced that they should just come here when something like this happens. If all sides agree here that there is nothing to be upset about, then that should be the final ruling. Sure would make some decisions a lot easier for a bunch of stupid people in power.
Seems like a good plan.
 
Lately I've become convinced that they should just come here when something like this happens. If all sides agree here that there is nothing to be upset about, then that should be the final ruling. Sure would make some decisions a lot easier for a bunch of stupid people in power.
:lmao: FBGs = Arbitrators to the Universe

I like it.

 

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