Positions with the highest bust rate 1995-2006 (1 Viewer)

[Jous]

If Kyle Boller is a bust...what's Rex Grossman.

Better than Kyle Boller.Give Grossman another year...he clearly by no means can be labled a bust as of right now. He was really inconsistant last year but still had spots of brilliance, and he still was the starter on a SuperBowl team. It was also only his first full year as a starter.

 

[OldMilwaukee]

I believe the WR bust rate is high for two basic reasons. One, it is one of the more difficult positions to evaluate and two, after quarterback it is the most difficult position to transition from college to pro. For starters, there is an over-emphasis on the physical measurements of a player. 40-yard time is the commonly overrated measurement, but so is height/weight. What's underrated? Catching the football with good hands technique; catching the ball with this technique in tight coverage; maintaining possession of the ball after heavy contract from a safety (especially when the receiver sees or anticipates a huge hit); and precise route running. A Robert Meachem very well may turn out to be an excellent NFL receiver, but I'm not sold on him because he doesnt' perform any of the underrated categories with consistency. I heard over and over that Meachem caught the ball with his hands in workouts and the combine, but I saw one of his workouts and it appeared he had to really concentrate to make these catches. On film, he dropped several balls when attempting to catch passes with his hands first. There's a difference when the pads come on and players face contact. On the other hand, Steve Smith and Jason Hill are not only faster than the perceptions of so many (not sure where they got these ideas anyhow), but they are also excellent pass catchers and pretty good route runners. I'd rather have these two than Meachem, Rice, or Jarrett. In comparison to first round picks of their respective draft classes, Steve Smith of Carolina was deemed too small...Hines Ward too slow...Terrell Owens? Too slow...Marques Colston? Too slow/small school...Bernard Berrian--too small/too slight of frame...I think there's some fallacy among the NFL that you can teach great athletes to catch the football under difficult conditions and run good routes if you are 6-2+ and 210+ plus with 4.5 speed...(sometimes slower if you came from a big-time PAC 10 school--Reggie Williams/Mike Williams anyone)...Football skills will always mean more than physical skills when comparing athletes where there is such a reasonably small margin of difference in athleticism....Give me a 4.5 receiver with great hands, route running, and concentration over a 4.3 receiver with 20 more pounds and 2 additional inches of height that can't catch the ball with his hands, run more routes than streaks/screens/or crossing routes, or hold onto the ball after hit...

your preaching to the choir here!

 

[RudeDog]

What's the WR bust rate if we eliminate Detroit picks from the equation

 

[Snotbubbles]

Better than Kyle Boller.Give Grossman another year...he clearly by no means can be labled a bust as of right now. He was really inconsistant last year but still had spots of brilliance, and he still was the starter on a SuperBowl team. It was also only his first full year as a starter.

Boller has done more at this point in his career than Grossman. If you label Boller a bust, then you have to label Grossman a bust. Otherwise, you need to label both as still undetermined. And the fact that Grossman was the starter on a Superbowl team is irrelevant. The Bears won in spite of Grossman.

 

[Twilight]

Better than Kyle Boller.Give Grossman another year...he clearly by no means can be labled a bust as of right now. He was really inconsistant last year but still had spots of brilliance, and he still was the starter on a SuperBowl team. It was also only his first full year as a starter.

Boller has done more at this point in his career than Grossman. If you label Boller a bust, then you have to label Grossman a bust. Otherwise, you need to label both as still undetermined. And the fact that Grossman was the starter on a Superbowl team is irrelevant. The Bears won in spite of Grossman.

I disagree for one reason. Boller has LOST his starting job, and lost the faith of the organization that drafted him. Grossman still has his job and the faith. Whether it is deserved or not can be debated, but, until he loses either, he has to be ranked as a more successful pick than Boller.

 

[Snotbubbles]

I disagree for one reason. Boller has LOST his starting job, and lost the faith of the organization that drafted him. Grossman still has his job and the faith. Whether it is deserved or not can be debated, but, until he loses either, he has to be ranked as a more successful pick than Boller.

Boller has played in almost twice as many games as Grossman so he's had more opportunity to get benched. Give Grossman time. Lovie didn't bench Grossman last year because he didn't have any other choice. If you asked me whos career I'd rather have I'd have to say Boller. But its real close, so close in fact, that if I'm labeling Boller a bust, then Grossman gets the tag as well. You can't honestly sit there and tell me that the 5 or 6 good games that Grossman has had in his CAREER over the past 4 years is enough not to label him a bust.

 

[massraider]

I disagree for one reason. Boller has LOST his starting job, and lost the faith of the organization that drafted him. Grossman still has his job and the faith. Whether it is deserved or not can be debated, but, until he loses either, he has to be ranked as a more successful pick than Boller.

Boller has played in almost twice as many games as Grossman so he's had more opportunity to get benched. Give Grossman time. Lovie didn't bench Grossman last year because he didn't have any other choice. If you asked me whos career I'd rather have I'd have to say Boller. But its real close, so close in fact, that if I'm labeling Boller a bust, then Grossman gets the tag as well. You can't honestly sit there and tell me that the 5 or 6 good games that Grossman has had in his CAREER over the past 4 years is enough not to label him a bust.

Grossman has had more than 5 or 6 good games this sason, the only season he has played in more than 3 games.Grossman may never learn to not take so many risks, and protect the ball. He may very well turn out to be a bust. But it is far from decided.