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I don't get the TE love. Last year in this league TE21 went at 9.11 instead of 7.9. Last year we were coming off a prior year of huge TE performances, received 2 ppr instead of 1.5, and they filled one of 6 spots instead of 1 of 9.
Nice try with that reverse psychology!
I don't mind y'all grabbing TEs as long as you leave my guy alone.
Same. I need someone to pair with McBride but I’m happy to wait.
 
When I saw all those QB go I decided to grab McCarthy although I had hoped I might be able to wait another round.

Eta - I wanted Maye or McCarthy. Figured Maye would go before McCarthy. Once Maye was gone that was my signal.
 
When I saw all those QB go I decided to grab McCarthy although I had hoped I might be able to wait another round.

Eta - I wanted Maye or McCarthy. Figured Maye would go before McCarthy. Once Maye was gone that was my signal.
I strongly considered Maye last round and if I had waited on QB I would be happy with him as my #2.

One nice thing about taking TE and QB early, while being at an end of the draft order, I’m not worried about missing out on runs.
 
WOW. Now fellas, if you want people to pre-draft, perhaps we shouldn't sandwich a pre-drafted pick with SEVEN STRAIGHT PLAYERS AT THE SAME LIMITED POSITION!
 
WOW. Now fellas, if you want people to pre-draft, perhaps we shouldn't sandwich a pre-drafted pick with SEVEN STRAIGHT PLAYERS AT THE SAME LIMITED POSITION!
qb not limited
BS....by definition the most limited position in football. No more then 32 can be relied upon to play in a given week...26 on a heavy bye week. Even TEs have 45 or so touch the ball in a given week.
Would have thought that not having single elimination weeks would help a little bit, as you have at least a little better shot at surviving a week without a QB.
 
WOW. Now fellas, if you want people to pre-draft, perhaps we shouldn't sandwich a pre-drafted pick with SEVEN STRAIGHT PLAYERS AT THE SAME LIMITED POSITION!
qb not limited
BS....by definition the most limited position in football. No more then 32 can be relied upon to play in a given week...26 on a heavy bye week. Even TEs have 45 or so touch the ball in a given week.
Would have thought that not having single elimination weeks would help a little bit, as you have at least a little better shot at surviving a week without a QB.
sorry thought you meant only so many could be drafted by a team....

eta: but then again.....in every single one of these for years the QB2 run happens....it's not new
 
WOW. Now fellas, if you want people to pre-draft, perhaps we shouldn't sandwich a pre-drafted pick with SEVEN STRAIGHT PLAYERS AT THE SAME LIMITED POSITION!
qb not limited
BS....by definition the most limited position in football. No more then 32 can be relied upon to play in a given week...26 on a heavy bye week. Even TEs have 45 or so touch the ball in a given week.
Would have thought that not having single elimination weeks would help a little bit, as you have at least a little better shot at surviving a week without a QB.
sorry thought you meant only so many could be drafted by a team....

eta: but then again.....in every single one of these for years the QB2 run happens....it's not new
absolutely, just seems....early.... for it when I would have thought it would be later if anything
 
WOW. Now fellas, if you want people to pre-draft, perhaps we shouldn't sandwich a pre-drafted pick with SEVEN STRAIGHT PLAYERS AT THE SAME LIMITED POSITION!
qb not limited
BS....by definition the most limited position in football. No more then 32 can be relied upon to play in a given week...26 on a heavy bye week. Even TEs have 45 or so touch the ball in a given week.
Would have thought that not having single elimination weeks would help a little bit, as you have at least a little better shot at surviving a week without a QB.
sorry thought you meant only so many could be drafted by a team....

eta: but then again.....in every single one of these for years the QB2 run happens....it's not new
absolutely, just seems....early.... for it when I would have thought it would be later if anything
Nah, I’m with Ref. Some drafts it’s the 8th round - some drafts the 9th. In our 16-teamers that’s basically the only drama involved.

Either way I knew if I didn’t jump on a QB2 at 8.05 I’d be boned coming back.
 
WOW. Now fellas, if you want people to pre-draft, perhaps we shouldn't sandwich a pre-drafted pick with SEVEN STRAIGHT PLAYERS AT THE SAME LIMITED POSITION!
qb not limited
BS....by definition the most limited position in football. No more then 32 can be relied upon to play in a given week...26 on a heavy bye week. Even TEs have 45 or so touch the ball in a given week.
Would have thought that not having single elimination weeks would help a little bit, as you have at least a little better shot at surviving a week without a QB.
sorry thought you meant only so many could be drafted by a team....

eta: but then again.....in every single one of these for years the QB2 run happens....it's not new
absolutely, just seems....early.... for it when I would have thought it would be later if anything
It's actually a little late. Usually it happens when the TE run happened in this draft.
 
with two extra roster spots and no PK....taking QB2 "earlier" seems about right...cause you can even afford to take three and play keep away and put a team or teams at a disadvantage in a survivor format...... :shrug:

not that I would think about taking a third QB with four TE's.....:whistle:
 
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with two extra roster spots and no PK....taking QB2 "earlier" seems about right...cause you can even afford to take three and play keep away and put a team or teams at a disadvantage in a survivor format...... :shrug:

not that I would think about taking a third QB with four TE's.....:whistle:
I did not realize that you had four TEs. I am not sure what to think of that. I do know that I did not want to have to wait on 28 picks hoping a decent QB would be there.
 
RB: Josh Jacobs, Jonathan Taylor

3.11: Jayden Daniels, QB WFTskins - Usual suspect QB's started to trickle off the board (2.11 JAllen, 3.04 LJackson)...given the scoring (all td's 6, 20/10 yp/r, mistakes don't matter), I went into this hoping to land a multifaceted QB with overall QB1 ceiling, and didn't figure Daniels or Hurts would make it through the turn, despite my conjecture that at least 4 WR would go over the next 10 picks before it got back to me, which they did. I waffled very hard about Tee Higgins, and gambling on QB, but the allure of Daniels was too strong. Especially with them not addressing RB with a compelling dynamic option in the NFL Draft, while adding a Swiss Army knife WR (Deebo) in Free Agency and a field stretcher in the Draft, to complement McLaurin/NBrown/Ertz/Sinnott. Sky's the limit with this kid, I think.

4.06: Devonta Smith, WR Eagles - Of course, Higgins went at 3.12 + 3 more (DJMoore, Flowers, RRice) to start the 4th Rd, as I'd expected. It's very possible I'll regret passing on Sutton for The Slim Reaper, but going WR-by-committee, and not having weekly eliminations, I liked the streamlined target share in Philly, coupled with the potential for massive boom weeks...I really like what's going on in Denver, but I think the maturation of that team is going to lead to a more equally divided receiving yards pie. I don't think there's any way I would have wound up with either Daniels or Hurts had I taken who I consider the last 'anchor'-caliber WR (Higgins). I might have landed the Burrow/Higgins stack, but not as appealing as Daniels/see-what-can-cobble-together.

5.11: Evan Engram, TE Broncos - No-brainer smash here for me, given that TE were trickling off. I mentioned how highly I think of the direction the Broncos are headed in, and they've waxed poetic about their intentions with Engram, with Payton's enticing 'Joker' role term being bandied about...I'm not so sure about that - I was convinced Payton was going to do whatever it took to land my Nittany Lion Tyler Warren in the draft to fill that role as a match made in heaven, but unfortunately that did not come to pass...but I know he coveted EE, and EE fills a glaring hole in an emerging, balanced offense, led by a compelling Coach/QB combo and enough quality complimentary options to allow the key pieces to eat hearty. Even though I only have 1WR (and him not a true Alpha) through 5 rounds, I'm feeling pretty good.

6.05: Deebo Samuel, WR WFT'skins - another relatively easy selection here, with the onliy pause coming about building stacks with no knoweldge of Bye Weeks, but this is a pairing I like, because given the makeup of the rest of the WFT'skins offense, Deebo isn't totally dependent on Daniels. I think he'll have much utility in the rushing game, and might lead Washington skill position players in TD's scored. I trust the hell out of Adam Peters, and love Deebo's passion for the game, and that combined with the relationship/loyalty, we get a 2021/2023 Season out of him, which fits nicely as WR2 in my WRBC approach. I ruminated for a while about Khalil Shakir before pulling the trigger, FWIW.

QB: Jayden Daniels
RB: Josh Jacobs, Jonathan Taylor
WR: Devonta Smith, Deebo Samuel
TE: Evan Engram

More to follow...
 
WOW. Now fellas, if you want people to pre-draft, perhaps we shouldn't sandwich a pre-drafted pick with SEVEN STRAIGHT PLAYERS AT THE SAME LIMITED POSITION!
qb not limited
BS....by definition the most limited position in football. No more then 32 can be relied upon to play in a given week...26 on a heavy bye week. Even TEs have 45 or so touch the ball in a given week.
Would have thought that not having single elimination weeks would help a little bit, as you have at least a little better shot at surviving a week without a QB.
@renesauz - I very rarely pre-draft early for this precise reason, and I never urge folks to pre-draft. I also understand that your work and sleep schedule sometimes puts you in challenging spots. I suspect that if you avoided pre-drafting at all, you might feel some peer pressure about long waits. So, you of probably all of our regular drafters may feel conflicted about that QB run.

But, like others have said, you had to know that this QB run was coming. Good luck the rest of the way. I hope that you can have some personal favorites drop in your lap. No worries with me, if we are held up long stretches when you work long hours or are asleep.
 
“I love it when a plan Cams together”

I was starting to get worried that I’d miss out on an adequate QB2. While I think the one I left should be better overall, I just needed a QB to fill in when Joe had a bad day, and it helps to actually cheer for the player. So I’m quite happy that Cam Ward fell to me at 10.02.

:eek: Eke at 9.15 wasn’t expected but I think he’ll make an adequate RB3 here.
 
1.13 WR - Puka Nacua - LA Rams
He's a top 5 WR and the only knock I can find is what impact 33 yr old D.Adams will have in this offense but I don't see it as a downgrade.
Can't imagine Nacua becomes 2nd Fiddle after he ran Cooper Kupp out of town

2.04 RB - Bucky Irving - Tampa Bay
J.Taylor was still on the board, Kyren Williams, I like Irving and I like the Bucs offense as a whole. They don't abuse Irving but he's easy to roll out there every week
200+ carries racked up 1150 yds rushing, 47/400 rec and 8 TDs, the Bucs do use other RBs but White's totals dropped from 336 touches, only 140 carries but still caught 50+ balls
Irving could actually get even more touches IMHO but I'm happy the way they deploy him.

-As an aside, I was not shocked but certainly a bit surprised that RBs were FLYING off the board. I passed on AJB and I thought the combo of Nacua/AJB and then I could just hack away at RB but then I also could not step out there for a TE or QB, wanted some flexibility so in the end I split the picks at WR/RB, especially when I looked ahead at what would be there on the 3/4 turn

I have been slow to post much about my picks and my thoughts as to why, tip of the cap to the others in here but I know I'm dealing with the sharpies from the SP
I also didn't want to tip my hand much and discuss anyone else but I will be doing some team summaries of those I like and a couple that might have some challenges
Those who live in glass houses...and I'm talking about myself.

Learning a lot for the upcoming season
 
Picks #45 and #52

3.13 RB - RJ Harvey - Denver
I haven't seen a rookie RB class this strong since 2008, even guys that appear to be 3rd on certain depth charts have upside late
Harvey is one of the few RB drafted to already be penciled in as RB1 on depth charts throughout the internet
I'm not going to oversell his skill set, he's battled injuries but he looked great in college last year.
B2B he racks 1,650/17TD and then 1.850/25 TD and roughly the same number of touches both seasons
Denver traded back but then invested a 2nd round selection for Harvey, they could have had many different RB and they targeted him for a reason
I like the Devner offense and how they have evovled under Coach Sean


4.04 RB - Kaleb Johnson - Pittsburgh
Why take one of the top RB prospects when you can flex several so I started to build a 3-Man rotation at the top I felt good about.
I might not have the Top RB1 but I feel strongly I have 3 RBs that all can easily crack the Top 20, all 3 should see the most touches
Johnson was the primary weapon in Iowa on a team that has a hard time scoring so he's used to the style of offense that awaits him Pittsburgh
I'm sure he will see some competition at times for touches, especially on 3rd down but as an RB3 and the lead RB taking off for the Chargers, lot of touches to go around
 
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Picks #77 and #84

5.13 TE - Tucker Kraft - Green Bay
I thought about maybe going double Tight End down here at 5/6 and I am glad I at least grabbed my first Tight End because there comes a run of about 10-12 over the next 1-2 rounds
Kraft had 50 catches, 7TD, about 700 yds as well I think, he's a nice cog in this offense. I wish he had done more last year and you could see him develop over the course of the season
So many new WRs coming in, Packers are looking to overhaul the WRs outside of Reed. I do not expect Doubs to be on the team
They're never extending him and they would be wise to trade him for whatever they can get Post June 1st
Watson is on the shelf with the ACL, would not expect him back Week 1 and he is all over the map but he sure is not a high targeted WR for Love
What you saw as the WR 1-2-3 on the depth charts in Green Bay is about to change
Why am I discussing the WRs you ask? Because I feel we're gonna see the best version of Kraft at TE thus far as he enters Season 3
If he just increases his production a little to say 65/850/8TD and you are talking solid TE1 numbers
I liked him better than some names called before him and I like him better than the rookie TEs in the 1st from this year's NFL Draft
-And there's always a chance he regresses and we learn that Love actually sucks, all those things are in play which is why he went TE11 off the board.

6.04 WR - Jerry Jeudy - Cleveland
Everyone I was thinking about to grab on the way back was taken. Old Milwaukee will NOT be getting a Christmas Card from me this year
Grabbed Rashee Rice right before I could take him in the 4th which is why I switched positions and grabbed KJ
This time that joker takes Travis Hunter and I was thinking about him.
@-OZ- also stole Tony Pollard at 6.02 and I had him ready to go as my RB4, not sure why everyone is down on him except that Cam Ward is getting ready to start
I needed another WR, not gonna over tout Jeudy or the Browns, think they are sure fire set to pick Top 10 again next year.
But he somehow manages to produce and I would be thrilled if he comes anywhere close to 90/`1200 again

-Was disappointed I still didn't have a QB and I also wasn't the least bit excited about Jeudy and felt almost backed into a corner to take him
There was a way I could have run a 4-5 RB set with flex spots, part of me wishes I had done that but I wouldn't have 2 QBs or possibly a single TE and that would not be good
So we tried to give the ship a little bit of balance as we set sail for Rounds 7 and 8
 
I realized this morning that I screwed up my pick. I didn’t actually want the packers defense. :shrug:

I’d make a replacement pick but the draft has moved on and I didn’t catch it earlier.
 
I realized this morning that I screwed up my pick. I didn’t actually want the packers defense. :shrug:

I’d make a replacement pick but the draft has moved on and I didn’t catch it earlier.
@-OZ- @BassNBrew - is there a precedent for changing picks after others have made picks? Six picks have been made since the one that @-OZ- made that he would like to change, including another pick made by @-OZ- .
 
Team rzrback77 review

I will begin that I do not like picking at the top of the first round, much prefer the middle picks, around six to eleven. Picking at the end means guessing about future picks much more than simply selecting value. You can still make value picks, but occasionally you are forced into selecting positions rather than best available. I rarely embrace the teams that I draft from top three and thus far, I don't see this team near the top of this league.

1.2 Saquon Barkley RB1 (RB3) - Had Saquon as #2 behind only J. Chase. Not disappointed taking him here and he should be an anchor for the team, but really saw a tight grouping of eight or so, that I would not have minded beginning my draft with. Bob Henry projections, I generally agree with has Barkley as RB3 and equal or below six WRs, so there is no value in Barkley unless he far outproduces his projection, which could happen, especially if he adds more goal line looks, LOL.

2.15 James Cook RB14 (RB13) - Did not want to begin RB/RB, but I saw Cook at the end of a tier and more valuable as my RB2 than the WRs available to me. I see WRs as more valuable in this league, even with the three flexes and needing three starters as opposed to two starting RBs, but went with the end of the tier and held my breath during the next round hoping for value to fall at WR.

3.2 Jaxon Smith-Njigba WR15 (WR15) - Considered Mixon, but could not pull the trigger on three back to back RBs. Felt like I had to take a WR, particularly after Kittle was off the board. Considered D. Adams, Tyreek Hill and DJ Moore, but felt that the reliable JSN without DK Metcalf or Lockett made for lots of targets. Not super high on Darnold, but like the volume and sure hands combo for JSN.

4.15 David Njoku TE8(TE6) - Was looking at X. Worthy and considering James Conner as RB3, but both were taken just ahead of me. Liked Njoku here and felt a focus on TE might be looming, so wanted one at the beginning of this turn. Five were taken after Njoku before my 6th round pick came, so my guess was off.

5.2 Baker Mayfield QB8 (QB5) - Like the need at TE solved at 4.15 with Njoku, felt like I must take a QB here. I like Mayfield to produce similar to last year, so favored him over the next tier. Very surprised that he was ranked at QB5 anywhere, though.

6.15 Jakobi Meyers WR41 (WR32) - Meyers finished 28, 22, and 29 the past three seasons and gets an upgrade at QB. I see Meyers as easily the second target for the Raiders, so as I desperately needed solid WR production as I only had one after five rounds (and even he was lowly ranked for a team's WR1) and think that I found it with Meyers.

7.2 George Pickens WR42 (WR45 before trade) Pickens is a certified knucklehead and I usually veer away from diva WRs, but he does have a propensity for the big play and seems even better suited to a best ball line up. Was thankful to add him as my WR3 and like him better in Dallas, but hoping that he is smart enough to see the error of his ways regarding team unity and hustle, as he will be playing for a contract. In regard to his diva factor, Dallas is a scary place for him.
 
I realized this morning that I screwed up my pick. I didn’t actually want the packers defense. :shrug:

I’d make a replacement pick but the draft has moved on and I didn’t catch it earlier.
@-OZ- @BassNBrew - is there a precedent for changing picks after others have made picks? Six picks have been made since the one that @-OZ- made that he would like to change, including another pick made by @-OZ- .
IMO....if it is that he meant to click a different defense but accidentally clicked/settled on the Packers DST....and he wants a different defense then that is one thing......but switching it to a position player would be a different story....
 
I realized this morning that I screwed up my pick. I didn’t actually want the packers defense. :shrug:

I’d make a replacement pick but the draft has moved on and I didn’t catch it earlier.
@-OZ- @BassNBrew - is there a precedent for changing picks after others have made picks? Six picks have been made since the one that @-OZ- made that he would like to change, including another pick made by @-OZ- .
IMO....if it is that he meant to click a different defense but accidentally clicked/settled on the Packers DST....and he wants a different defense then that is one thing......but switching it to a position player would be a different story....
I’ll Change to the lions if that’s alright.

That’s what I get for drafting in bed, half asleep.
 
I realized this morning that I screwed up my pick. I didn’t actually want the packers defense. :shrug:

I’d make a replacement pick but the draft has moved on and I didn’t catch it earlier.
@-OZ- @BassNBrew - is there a precedent for changing picks after others have made picks? Six picks have been made since the one that @-OZ- made that he would like to change, including another pick made by @-OZ- .
IMO....if it is that he meant to click a different defense but accidentally clicked/settled on the Packers DST....and he wants a different defense then that is one thing......but switching it to a position player would be a different story....
I’ll Change to the lions if that’s alright.

That’s what I get for drafting in bed, half asleep.
I approve dropping Packers DST for the Lions DST.
 
I will begin that I do not like picking at the top of the first round, much prefer the middle picks, around six to eleven. Picking at the end means guessing about future picks much more than simply selecting value. You can still make value picks, but occasionally you are forced into selecting positions rather than best available. I rarely embrace the teams that I draft from top three and thus far, I don't see this team near the top of this league.

On the flip side I've been enjoying drafting from the middle, waiting for signals and getting in front of a couple runs.
 
If any of you want a dynasty challenge, we have an opening in my 32 team league. Players available twice.

 
Picks #45 and #52

3.13 RB - RJ Harvey - Denver
I haven't seen a rookie RB class this strong since 2008, even guys that appear to be 3rd on certain depth charts have upside late
Harvey is one of the few RB drafted to already be penciled in as RB1 on depth charts throughout the internet
I'm not going to oversell his skill set, he's battled injuries but he looked great in college last year.
B2B he racks 1,650/17TD and then 1.850/25 TD and roughly the same number of touches both seasons
Denver traded back but then invested a 2nd round selection for Harvey, they could have had many different RB and they targeted him for a reason
I like the Devner offense and how they have evovled under Coach Sean


4.04 RB - Kaleb Johnson - Pittsburgh
Why take one of the top RB prospects when you can flex several so I started to build a 3-Man rotation at the top I felt good about.
I might not have the Top RB1 but I feel strongly I have 3 RBs that all can easily crack the Top 20, all 3 should see the most touches
Johnson was the primary weapon in Iowa on a team that has a hard time scoring so he's used to the style of offense that awaits him Pittsburgh
I'm sure he will see some competition at times for touches, especially on 3rd down but as an RB3 and the lead RB taking off for the Chargers, lot of touches to go around

I’ll take guys I’ve never heard of for $500 Alex.

Actually, I’m not clowning on you. MOP, I’m just way out of the loop this year.
 
@-OZ- is OTC - our pace for the first week was 15 picks per day, which felt slower, because we had two days where only 11 were made. Through yesterday, we have averaged 20.4 picks per day and over the past three days, we have averaged 33 picks per day.

At the current pace of 20 per day, we will be around round 19 by Wednesday morning. So, doesn't seem like there will be a significant chance to solve bye week problems at that point. Sound off here, but since our pace quickened, I don't see the need any longer to pause the draft.
 
Team rzrback77 review


1.2 Saquon Barkley RB1 (RB3)
2.15 James Cook RB14 (RB13)
3.2 Jaxon Smith-Njigba WR15 (WR15)
4.15 David Njoku TE8(TE6)
5.2 Baker Mayfield QB8 (QB5)
6.15 Jakobi Meyers WR41 (WR32)
7.2 George Pickens WR42 (WR45 before trade)

8.15 Matthew Stafford QB22 (QB25) - Really happy to get Stafford this late. Probably should have considered a second QB earlier, but got badly behind the eight-ball at the WR position and really liked the value of both Meyers and Pickens. As long as Stafford can stay healthy, this should be a perfect complementary pick to Mayfield. Stafford has finished as QB16 the past two seasons and the addition of Adams seems to improve their WR position. Stafford's top two WRs were drafted here as WR5 and WR18.

9.2 Michael Pittman WR50 (WR44) - Pittman had finished as WR16, 27 and 25 prior to last season's Colt QB struggles and even finished WR 40 last year. Surely, improvement is expected and will be a focus of the coaching staff in off-season workouts. I expect either maturity and improvement for Richardson or Daniel Jones and expect Pittman to climb back close to WR25.

10.15 Darnell Mooney WR57 (WR43) - Mooney has been a fairly decent player when given a solid role. Even with the Falcon's passing game struggles a season ago, he had seven games with over 70 yards receiving and caught 5 TD passes. Good value here and a nice best-ball addition to my WR roster which no longer seems deficient.

11.2 Christian Kirk WR60 (WR57) - Kirk fell off, primarily due to injury shortened seasons after a career year in his first season at Jacksonville three years ago. Have always been a fan of Kirk as I watched him play in college at Texas A&M and he had a monster game against my Razorbacks in Dallas that I got to attend. Expecting a bounce back for Stroud and see Kirk as being the second favorite target behind Nico Collins. Feeling a lot better about the WRs, but probably should since I now have rostered six there.

12.15 Buffalo Bills DST8 - Bleacher Report has the Bills ranked 3rd and one SOS article I read based on Vegas win expectation for 2025 has the Bills with the fifth easiest schedule. I love adding this defense, a little ahead of the anticipated run. Six more have already been taken.

13.2 Wil Dissly TE33 (TE29) - Was hoping for Schultz and also would have taken Fant, but both those guys were taken just before. Dissly definitely a few slots down from those two, but coming off his career records for catches and receiving yardage, but will likely fall from that with the Chargers recent WR additions and focus on the running game.

Happy Saturday, looking a rainy day here so check in often and feel free to critique my roster, please.
 
I might have the worst RB room in the history of MBSL.
Derrick Henry, Jaylen Warren, Jaleel McLaughlin, Nick Chubb :ROFLMAO::crying::ROFLMAO::crying::poop::poop:

Back to @-OZ-
 
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