Preseason Game Observations (1 Viewer)

[tjnc09]

One of those fans needs to grab a police bike and ride into the field

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Edit: AP's work ethic is beyond any player in the NFL! You can say whatever you want about my IQ, and that's fine, but just passing on what I have seen for about 7 years!

No it's not. Almost all of the guys in the NFL work hard. The very good ons especially.

Have you looked at the linemen on every team? They aren't "working" at all, let along working hard. Except, of course, for their knives and forks. Many of them are obese, and nearly all are fat. Not sure what "workouts" they can do, and still maintain those jiggling rolls of fat. Maybe they bench press pork chops or something.

Do you know how many of the great OL/DL in the NFL are athletic freaks that could be playing a "smaller" position if they weren't packing on the pounds (fat and muscle) to play on the line? It's very difficult for some of these guys to weigh what they do, and tons of the great lineman, comparitively, look like stick figures and completely different dudes years after they retire once they don't need to keep on the football weight. Describing the OL/DL in the NFL as lazy fat slobs is ignorant, in tons of ways. There are many who are natural fatties with athleticism, but tons of these guys arrive at their first college practice weighing at least 50 pounds less than they will weigh in the NFL. It IS hard work, to put on that weight because the position necessitates it, while continuing to be a functional, impressive athlete.

 

[bigunreal]

Keep believing in racial stereotypes. Gerhart ran a 4.5 40. Even some of the most successful backs (Alfred Morris, Arian Foster, Stevan Ridley come immediately to mind) are slower. You see white, and you think slow. Just like you see a white WR, and you think about all those inaccurate "possession receiver," "deceptive speed," "overachiever" and "heady" references you've heard from the lame, wanna be comedians at ESPN.

 

[The Claymaker]

I think the Jets have the worst starter in the league, assuming it is Sanchez. Who is next, Ponder, Flynn or Gabbert? I think it is Ponder because he actually has weapons around him, Flynn doesn't

You really think Sanchez is worse than Ponder? Ponder has AP, a very good TE, he had Harvin last year, Jennings now, Sanchez has ummm Cumberpatch and Santonio "I don't want to play here" Holmes and Stephen Hill who actually has hands made of stone. I am not saying I agree or disagree, just saying there is room for debate on that.

1) some ppl here think Geno has earned the starter job2) Cumberpatch is being taken in the 16th round of fantasy drafts

Points well taken, but do you think Ponder is better than Sanchez?

I prefer Sanchez and its not that close.

That is how I was leaning also, that is a rough situation to be in. His best chance may be to get out of NY and start over.

 

[tjnc09]

Where is Austin Collie? He is clearly the most talented WR on the roster, along with Boldin.

Collie is expected to be cut by the 49ers.

I don't understand why any team is willing to take the risk with him.

 

[pizzatyme]

On the Allen TD on the kickoff, why, if the player is flagged for taunting before he crosses the goalline, is he given the TD and the penalty is enforced on the kickoff?

Why not assess the penalty from the spot of the foul? It's like you're overlooking the penalty.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Really wish the broadcast would show these fans running on the field getting pummeled.

Broadcaster said Jerome Simpson blindsided the first one.

Would love to have seen that.

A while ago, I think broadcasters decided to not air streakers and so on to decrease their motivation. I bet they've got the footage somewhere though.

 

[bigunreal]

Edit: AP's work ethic is beyond any player in the NFL! You can say whatever you want about my IQ, and that's fine, but just passing on what I have seen for about 7 years!

No it's not. Almost all of the guys in the NFL work hard. The very good ons especially.

Have you looked at the linemen on every team? They aren't "working" at all, let along working hard. Except, of course, for their knives and forks. Many of them are obese, and nearly all are fat. Not sure what "workouts" they can do, and still maintain those jiggling rolls of fat. Maybe they bench press pork chops or something.

Do you know how many of the great OL/DL in the NFL are athletic freaks that could be playing a "smaller" position if they weren't packing on the pounds (fat and muscle) to play on the line? It's very difficult for some of these guys to weigh what they do, and tons of the great lineman, comparitively, look like stick figures and completely different dudes years after they retire once they don't need to keep on the football weight. Describing the OL/DL in the NFL as lazy fat slobs is ignorant, in tons of ways. There are many who are natural fatties with athleticism, but tons of these guys arrive at their first college practice weighing at least 50 pounds less than they will weigh in the NFL. It IS hard work, to put on that weight because the position necessitates it, while continuing to be a functional, impressive athlete.

Athletes of any kind do not have jiggling rolls of visible fat on them. You simply can't be "working" hard and look that fat. Exercise doesn't work like that. You can see them struggling to waddle off the field every other play, gasping for breath. They are a disgrace to the real football players who used to play their positions.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Really wish the broadcast would show these fans running on the field getting pummeled.

Broadcaster said Jerome Simpson blindsided the first one.

Would love to have seen that.

Serious question. Why do these players always have the right to tackle/destroy these kinds of fans that run on the field or streak, etc.? They aren't hurting anyone or jumping all over the players. There could be a serious injury, no matter how dumb the fans are being. Why aren't these players required to let security handle the situation? I've never understood why the players feel the need/have the right to lay out these fans. It's dangerous. If a streaker is coming at you with a shank in one hand and his #### in the other, okay, I understand. But these players fly out of nowhere and legit tackle these people.

 

[pizzatyme]

Where is Austin Collie? He is clearly the most talented WR on the roster, along with Boldin.

Collie is expected to be cut by the 49ers.

I don't understand why any team is willing to take the risk with him.

Well, he's an excellent WR until he takes his final hit.

 

[bigunreal]

Where is Austin Collie? He is clearly the most talented WR on the roster, along with Boldin.

Collie is expected to be cut by the 49ers.

I don't understand why any team is willing to take the risk with him.

WHY is Collie "expected" to be cut? He looked great in camp, and obviously there is little competition at that position. As for the "risk," Collie was willing to sign a medical waiver, relieving any team of liability. He wants to play, and they won't let him.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Keep believing in racial stereotypes. Gerhart ran a 4.5 40. Even some of the most successful backs (Alfred Morris, Arian Foster, Stevan Ridley come immediately to mind) are slower. You see white, and you think slow. Just like you see a white WR, and you think about all those inaccurate "possession receiver," "deceptive speed," "overachiever" and "heady" references you've heard from the lame, wanna be comedians at ESPN.

Exactly. He runs a 4.5, and he plays like it. You literally said he's faster than most of the RB's in the NFL. It's not even remotely true. Now you're specifically listing a few successful guys he's faster than, as if it matters or is remotely relevant to what you said.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Really wish the broadcast would show these fans running on the field getting pummeled.

Broadcaster said Jerome Simpson blindsided the first one.

Would love to have seen that.

Serious question. Why do these players always have the right to tackle/destroy these kinds of fans that run on the field or streak, etc.? They aren't hurting anyone or jumping all over the players. There could be a serious injury, no matter how dumb the fans are being. Why aren't these players required to let security handle the situation? I've never understood why the players feel the need/have the right to lay out these fans. It's dangerous. If a streaker is coming at you with a shank in one hand and his #### in the other, okay, I understand. But these players fly out of nowhere and legit tackle these people.

You gotta keep your head on a swivel.

 

[bigunreal]

Really wish the broadcast would show these fans running on the field getting pummeled.

Broadcaster said Jerome Simpson blindsided the first one.

Would love to have seen that.

Serious question. Why do these players always have the right to tackle/destroy these kinds of fans that run on the field or streak, etc.? They aren't hurting anyone or jumping all over the players. There could be a serious injury, no matter how dumb the fans are being. Why aren't these players required to let security handle the situation? I've never understood why the players feel the need/have the right to lay out these fans. It's dangerous. If a streaker is coming at you with a shank in one hand and his #### in the other, okay, I understand. But these players fly out of nowhere and legit tackle these people.

Great point. And why do the announcers get so upset with the fans who do this? They become so thrilled when a player hits the fan, which really should be assault and battery, especially considering they are in full uniform. And their fellow, idiotic fans in the stands support the assaults with their cheers.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Edit: AP's work ethic is beyond any player in the NFL! You can say whatever you want about my IQ, and that's fine, but just passing on what I have seen for about 7 years!

No it's not. Almost all of the guys in the NFL work hard. The very good ons especially.

Have you looked at the linemen on every team? They aren't "working" at all, let along working hard. Except, of course, for their knives and forks. Many of them are obese, and nearly all are fat. Not sure what "workouts" they can do, and still maintain those jiggling rolls of fat. Maybe they bench press pork chops or something.

Do you know how many of the great OL/DL in the NFL are athletic freaks that could be playing a "smaller" position if they weren't packing on the pounds (fat and muscle) to play on the line? It's very difficult for some of these guys to weigh what they do, and tons of the great lineman, comparitively, look like stick figures and completely different dudes years after they retire once they don't need to keep on the football weight. Describing the OL/DL in the NFL as lazy fat slobs is ignorant, in tons of ways. There are many who are natural fatties with athleticism, but tons of these guys arrive at their first college practice weighing at least 50 pounds less than they will weigh in the NFL. It IS hard work, to put on that weight because the position necessitates it, while continuing to be a functional, impressive athlete.

Athletes of any kind do not have jiggling rolls of visible fat on them. You simply can't be "working" hard and look that fat. Exercise doesn't work like that. You can see them struggling to waddle off the field every other play, gasping for breath. They are a disgrace to the real football players who used to play their positions.

You're either a horrible troll or horribly misinformed. I already called you ignorant once so I don't want to overuse the term. I'll save it for a few posts from now when you're still being incredibly dense and wallowing in your wrongness.

 

[bigunreal]

Keep believing in racial stereotypes. Gerhart ran a 4.5 40. Even some of the most successful backs (Alfred Morris, Arian Foster, Stevan Ridley come immediately to mind) are slower. You see white, and you think slow. Just like you see a white WR, and you think about all those inaccurate "possession receiver," "deceptive speed," "overachiever" and "heady" references you've heard from the lame, wanna be comedians at ESPN.

Exactly. He runs a 4.5, and he plays like it. You literally said he's faster than most of the RB's in the NFL. It's not even remotely true. Now you're specifically listing a few successful guys he's faster than, as if it matters or is remotely relevant to what you said.

Name the starting RBs in the league who run faster than a 4.5. There are only a handful, and you know it. But they aren't white, so they are never considered "slow."

 

[The Claymaker]

Keep believing in racial stereotypes. Gerhart ran a 4.5 40. Even some of the most successful backs (Alfred Morris, Arian Foster, Stevan Ridley come immediately to mind) are slower. You see white, and you think slow. Just like you see a white WR, and you think about all those inaccurate "possession receiver," "deceptive speed," "overachiever" and "heady" references you've heard from the lame, wanna be comedians at ESPN.

I really was just hoping you would move on from this silly comment. I can honestly say I have not gone out and timed any NFL rb's, I watched TG run and he looks slow, maybe it is because he is a bigger back, maybe the 9ers defensive players are crazy fast, I am not sure, but please believe me when I tell you it has nothing to do with him being white. He also went down on an arm tackle to a back-up lb'er, it was that play were he looked slow and weak and went down easily. I have always thought Alstott was slow also, but hell maybe he had sick wheels also and it was just the way he ran that made me think he was slow.

 

[bigunreal]

Edit: AP's work ethic is beyond any player in the NFL! You can say whatever you want about my IQ, and that's fine, but just passing on what I have seen for about 7 years!

No it's not. Almost all of the guys in the NFL work hard. The very good ons especially.

Have you looked at the linemen on every team? They aren't "working" at all, let along working hard. Except, of course, for their knives and forks. Many of them are obese, and nearly all are fat. Not sure what "workouts" they can do, and still maintain those jiggling rolls of fat. Maybe they bench press pork chops or something.

Do you know how many of the great OL/DL in the NFL are athletic freaks that could be playing a "smaller" position if they weren't packing on the pounds (fat and muscle) to play on the line? It's very difficult for some of these guys to weigh what they do, and tons of the great lineman, comparitively, look like stick figures and completely different dudes years after they retire once they don't need to keep on the football weight. Describing the OL/DL in the NFL as lazy fat slobs is ignorant, in tons of ways. There are many who are natural fatties with athleticism, but tons of these guys arrive at their first college practice weighing at least 50 pounds less than they will weigh in the NFL. It IS hard work, to put on that weight because the position necessitates it, while continuing to be a functional, impressive athlete.

Athletes of any kind do not have jiggling rolls of visible fat on them. You simply can't be "working" hard and look that fat. Exercise doesn't work like that. You can see them struggling to waddle off the field every other play, gasping for breath. They are a disgrace to the real football players who used to play their positions.

You're either a horrible troll or horribly misinformed. I already called you ignorant once so I don't want to overuse the term. I'll save it for a few posts from now when you're still being incredibly dense and wallowing in your wrongness.

Yes, I am ignorant for pointing out the indisputable fact that the majority of linemen in this league are fat. Very fat, with jiggling rolls on flubber. Sorry to shatter your illusions, and point out the emperor is wearing no clothes.

 

[pizzatyme]

Concussions are scary. My son recently had his 3rd in as many many years playing football. Each got progressively worse with the symptoms. His career is over. He had slurred speech for 2+ hours and it scared the hell out of me.

I love Collie as a player, but wish he'd retire.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Keep believing in racial stereotypes. Gerhart ran a 4.5 40. Even some of the most successful backs (Alfred Morris, Arian Foster, Stevan Ridley come immediately to mind) are slower. You see white, and you think slow. Just like you see a white WR, and you think about all those inaccurate "possession receiver," "deceptive speed," "overachiever" and "heady" references you've heard from the lame, wanna be comedians at ESPN.

Exactly. He runs a 4.5, and he plays like it. You literally said he's faster than most of the RB's in the NFL. It's not even remotely true. Now you're specifically listing a few successful guys he's faster than, as if it matters or is remotely relevant to what you said.

Name the starting RBs in the league who run faster than a 4.5. There are only a handful, and you know it. But they aren't white, so they are never considered "slow."

I think you might be onto something with this race thing. There are very few white people playing skill positions these days. Why?

 

[pizzatyme]

Gerhart might be a 4.50 on a track, but he plays slow as hell.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Keep believing in racial stereotypes. Gerhart ran a 4.5 40. Even some of the most successful backs (Alfred Morris, Arian Foster, Stevan Ridley come immediately to mind) are slower. You see white, and you think slow. Just like you see a white WR, and you think about all those inaccurate "possession receiver," "deceptive speed," "overachiever" and "heady" references you've heard from the lame, wanna be comedians at ESPN.

Exactly. He runs a 4.5, and he plays like it. You literally said he's faster than most of the RB's in the NFL. It's not even remotely true. Now you're specifically listing a few successful guys he's faster than, as if it matters or is remotely relevant to what you said.

Name the starting RBs in the league who run faster than a 4.5. There are only a handful, and you know it. But they aren't white, so they are never considered "slow."

Danny Woodhead is white, I don't consider him "slow". I'm not doing your research for you. You made the outlandish claim, you back it up. You said he was faster than the majority of the starting RB's in the NFL. Prove it.

Nevermind the absolutely ridiculous comment about him being "better" than 3/4 of the RB's in the entire NFL.

He is still white though. You're right about that.

 

[The Claymaker]

Really wish the broadcast would show these fans running on the field getting pummeled.

Broadcaster said Jerome Simpson blindsided the first one.

Would love to have seen that.

Serious question. Why do these players always have the right to tackle/destroy these kinds of fans that run on the field or streak, etc.? They aren't hurting anyone or jumping all over the players. There could be a serious injury, no matter how dumb the fans are being. Why aren't these players required to let security handle the situation? I've never understood why the players feel the need/have the right to lay out these fans. It's dangerous. If a streaker is coming at you with a shank in one hand and his #### in the other, okay, I understand. But these players fly out of nowhere and legit tackle these people.

You gotta keep your head on a swivel.

This made me LOL, made my wife ask me what I was reading... she hates football so I didn't bother. It just made me laugh thinking of someone saying that to a nude fan as he gets blindsided by a guy in full gear. I originally typed "drilled" but then I thought that sounded sick, so I changed it.

 

[Donnybrook]

Cassel is just there to make Ponder look good.

 

[bigunreal]

Gerhart might be a 4.50 on a track, but he plays slow as hell.

Yes, that's another lie. When a white player times faster than he should, which happens frequently, the excuse to keep him off the field is that he "plays slow." Something, of course, that cannot be objectively demonstrated.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Edit: AP's work ethic is beyond any player in the NFL! You can say whatever you want about my IQ, and that's fine, but just passing on what I have seen for about 7 years!

No it's not. Almost all of the guys in the NFL work hard. The very good ons especially.

Have you looked at the linemen on every team? They aren't "working" at all, let along working hard. Except, of course, for their knives and forks. Many of them are obese, and nearly all are fat. Not sure what "workouts" they can do, and still maintain those jiggling rolls of fat. Maybe they bench press pork chops or something.

Do you know how many of the great OL/DL in the NFL are athletic freaks that could be playing a "smaller" position if they weren't packing on the pounds (fat and muscle) to play on the line? It's very difficult for some of these guys to weigh what they do, and tons of the great lineman, comparitively, look like stick figures and completely different dudes years after they retire once they don't need to keep on the football weight. Describing the OL/DL in the NFL as lazy fat slobs is ignorant, in tons of ways. There are many who are natural fatties with athleticism, but tons of these guys arrive at their first college practice weighing at least 50 pounds less than they will weigh in the NFL. It IS hard work, to put on that weight because the position necessitates it, while continuing to be a functional, impressive athlete.

Athletes of any kind do not have jiggling rolls of visible fat on them. You simply can't be "working" hard and look that fat. Exercise doesn't work like that. You can see them struggling to waddle off the field every other play, gasping for breath. They are a disgrace to the real football players who used to play their positions.

You're either a horrible troll or horribly misinformed. I already called you ignorant once so I don't want to overuse the term. I'll save it for a few posts from now when you're still being incredibly dense and wallowing in your wrongness.

Yes, I am ignorant for pointing out the indisputable fact that the majority of linemen in this league are fat. Very fat, with jiggling rolls on flubber. Sorry to shatter your illusions, and point out the emperor is wearing no clothes.

You're both wrong AND missing the point. I wish it was surprising. You said that they "aren't working at all, nevermind working hard." Its quoted above. It was an asinine comment to make, and if you had actually read my original response to the point you made, which is also quoted above in this very post, you'd realize two things: 1. What we're actually discussing here, and 2. That you are incorrect and completely clueless on this topic.

The thing you're accusing everyone of doing with Gerhart because he's white? That's exactly what you're doing here, but with OL/DL.

 

[Gawain]

Concussions are scary. My son recently had his 3rd in as many many years playing football. Each got progressively worse with the symptoms. His career is over. He had slurred speech for 2+ hours and it scared the hell out of me.

I love Collie as a player, but wish he'd retire.

Did he realize he had to give it up or did you have to force the issue?

It'd suck to tell your kid he couldn't do something he loved, but man, you'd hate to see him have lifelong problems.

Seems like a crappy situation all around.

 

[Hoss Style]

Concussions are scary. My son recently had his 3rd in as many many years playing football. Each got progressively worse with the symptoms. His career is over. He had slurred speech for 2+ hours and it scared the hell out of me.

I love Collie as a player, but wish he'd retire.

Glad he's ok.

It's crazy how differently concussions affect people. My buddy played TE and since high school had been knocked totally out 3 times and had probably 20-30 "where the hell am I" moments. Those concussions never stayed with him or bothered him at all later in life. I hope research can find out why some are more susceptible to them in the first place and also why some have lingering effects and some don't.

 

[Buffaloes]

do you guys think Gerhart could bench press a fully grown male ox?

 

[ConnSKINS26]

do you guys think Gerhart could bench press a fully grown male ox?

ONLY ONE? WHY, BECAUSE HE'S WHITE? YOU PROBABLY THINK HE COULDN'T DO THE GALLON CHALLENGE EITHER. RACIST.

 

[Donnybrook]

I wonder if Buffalo or the Jets would be interested in Cassel. Speilman needs to make some calls.

 

[The Claymaker]

In case anyone is interested, here is an updated blog on players getting cut:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/08/25/live-blog-countdown-to-cutdown-825/

 

[The Claymaker]

do you guys think Gerhart could bench press a fully grown male ox?

Why does it have to be a male? You saying women oxes are too fat for Toby to bench press? Chauvinist!

 

[ConnSKINS26]

do you guys think Gerhart could bench press a fully grown male ox?

Why does it have to be a male? You saying women oxes are too fat for Toby to bench press? Chauvinist!

Chattelist?Edit: eh, I tried too hard there.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Gerhart might be a 4.50 on a track, but he plays slow as hell.

His 20-yard shuttle and 3-cone drill were slow as hell.

 

[pizzatyme]

Concussions are scary. My son recently had his

3rd in as many many years playing football. Each got progressively worse with the symptoms. His career is over. He had slurred

speech for 2+ hours and it scared the hell out of me.

I love Collie as a player, but wish he'd retire.

Did he realize he had to give it up or did you

have to force the issue?

It'd suck to tell your kid he couldn't do something he loved, but man, you'd hate to see him have

lifelong problems.

Seems like a crappy situation all around.

His decision. He was the senior team captain and the incident happened while he was practicing for the HS All Star football game.

We both love football, we are both sad, but his future is bright.

Thanks for the concern, fellas.

 

[The Claymaker]

do you guys think Gerhart could bench press a fully grown male ox?

Why does it have to be a male? You saying women oxes are too fat for Toby to bench press? Chauvinist!

Chattelist?Edit: eh, I tried too hard there.

You get a "Like" for effort.

 

[pizzatyme]

Gerhart might be a 4.50 on a track, but he plays

slow as hell.

His 20-yard shuttle and 3-cone drill were slow as hell.

Well, it's obvious you're a racist with those facts.

 

[The Claymaker]

Concussions are scary. My son recently had his

3rd in as many many years playing football. Each got progressively worse with the symptoms. His career is over. He had slurred

speech for 2+ hours and it scared the hell out of me.

I love Collie as a player, but wish he'd retire.

Did he realize he had to give it up or did you

have to force the issue?

It'd suck to tell your kid he couldn't do something he loved, but man, you'd hate to see him have

lifelong problems.

Seems like a crappy situation all around.

We both love football, we are both sad, but his future is bright.

Do you require him to wear shades?

 

[The Claymaker]

Gerhart might be a 4.50 on a track, but he plays slow as hell.

His 20-yard shuttle and 3-cone drill were slow as hell.

My 3-cone drill was slow as hell as well and my wife was so jealous, she asked me if she needed a 3rd cone!

 

[pizzatyme]

the kid graduated HS with 25 college credits. I never had that drive.

I'm getting him some Aviators tomorrow.

 

[Tool]

Keep believing in racial stereotypes. Gerhart ran a 4.5 40. Even some of the most successful backs (Alfred Morris, Arian Foster, Stevan Ridley come immediately to mind) are slower. You see white, and you think slow. Just like you see a white WR, and you think about all those inaccurate "possession receiver," "deceptive speed," "overachiever" and "heady" references you've heard from the lame, wanna be comedians at ESPN.

You know that that's an "adjusted" time, right? In case you weren't aware All white players 40 times are scaled vs. other white runners. So it's not a real 4.5. The formua's on the web somewhere if you want to look it up.

 

[cstu]

I think the Jets have the worst starter in the league, assuming it is Sanchez. Who is next, Ponder, Flynn or Gabbert? I think it is Ponder because he actually has weapons around him, Flynn doesn't

Assuming Pryor is the starter, then he's the worst starter in the NFL. Then I would put Ponder followed by Sanchez.

 

[RushHour]

Signs of life from Jon Baldwin

 

[FlapJacks]

Forte playing like an ogre this preseason

 

[matuski]

Gerhart might be a 4.50 on a track, but he plays slow as hell.

Yes, that's another lie. When a white player times faster than he should, which happens frequently, the excuse to keep him off the field is that he "plays slow." Something, of course, that cannot be objectively demonstrated.

You seem emotionally attached to this guy. I find this fascinating.

 

[DoubleG]

Gerhart might be a 4.50 on a track, but he plays slow as @#!*% .

Yes, that's another lie. When a white player times faster than he should, which happens frequently, the excuse to keep him off the field is that he "plays slow." Something, of course, that cannot be objectively demonstrated.

You seem emotionally attached to this guy. I find this fascinating.

Maybe Toby is his cousin...or lover...or him.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

a white player times faster than he should, which happens frequently, the excuse to keep him off the field is that he "plays slow."

You think NFL coaches are making excuses to keep players off the field that are better than the ones they play? And those same coaches are motivated by anti-White bias?

 

[FDC]

What's NO's WR rotation like? Who started? I see that Toon has already gotten some action.

Toon started the game.

In place of Colston.

Should we start paying serious attention here to either Toon or Stills? They have both flashed a lot of potential. Or does this all become just another preseason memory when Colston starts playing?

I would pay attention to both in dynasty. Toon is being groomed for Colston's role, Stills for Moore's role. The injury to Joe Morgan and departure of Devery Henderson opened the door for one to get a lot of playing time this season as the 3rd WR and it looks like that will be Stills. Couple of great catches today. Kid looks really polished for a 21 year old.

Stills is flashing. I'm surprised there isn't more buzz honestly. He straight up dusted Jonathon Joseph and had about 5 yards separation for the TD.

I think Lance Moore was so late to emerge in his career people think he is young. He will be 30 August 31st and is owed zero dead money after this year.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Forte playing like an ogre this preseason

is playing like an ogre a good thing or bad?