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QB Aaron Rodgers, PIT (1 Viewer)
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BigJim®
Footballguy
Hopefully he just swallows his pride and gets with the program the NFL has put in place, which honors his right to choose. Leave it to a narcissist to invoke MLK and now Jesus - historic martyrs - when he only had to apologize and people would turn the page. I really don't think any of this is about "disagreeing with him" on the substantive topic of choice. He just needs to follow the protocols that all other NFL players need to follow.
They would have cut ties with him next year when he is playing for another team. It will get real when Jake from State Farm cuts ties with him.
fatness
Footballguy
The percentage of State Farm commercials featuring Rodgers has gone down from about 25% to 1.5%.
added link: https://people.com/sports/aaron-rodgers-didnt-expect-negative-response-to-vaccination-statements-hes-very-unhappy-source-says/
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I realize that Aaron Rodgers thinks that he is the smartest person in the room and it seems that lots of others also believe that to be true, but I am certain that he does not have a clue about what is actually involved in a crucifixion.
Balco
Footballguy
I think what he doesn’t understand is he is being criticized for his dumb “I’m immunized” comment and his flippant violations of protocol.
there are many players not vaccinated who adhere to protocol set by NFL. Some decline comment when asked, some say they are not vaccinated and don’t give a reason, some say they aren’t vaccinated and give a reason.
Rodgers handled this all foolishly and now is rightfully facing criticism. He is like a child.
there are many players not vaccinated who adhere to protocol set by NFL. Some decline comment when asked, some say they are not vaccinated and don’t give a reason, some say they aren’t vaccinated and give a reason.
Rodgers handled this all foolishly and now is rightfully facing criticism. He is like a child.
socrates
Footballguy
You make some fair points. It was foolish and dishonest for Rodgers to say he was "immunized". He deserves some criticism for that. Simply put, it was a lie.
What flippant violations of protocol? I have not kept up with all of that. I heard Rodgers was at a Halloween party without a mask (perhaps he was in costume as a "vaccinated player"), and neither did Rodgers follow nor the Packers enforce some protocols, evidently. It does not appear that the NFL Protocols apply to a player's activities away from the team, although perhaps I am just overlooking that.
I am curious, and I do not know the answer, was Rodgers treated significantly different because of who he is (I suspect he was)? Were other unvaccinated players skirting the protocols (probably so, but perhaps not to the level Rodgers was)? Were other players (both unvaccinated and vaccinated) attending large gatherings (pretty clearly yes)?
My suspicion is that a majority of players have not exercised an abundance of caution throughout the pandemic. If players are attending gatherings where there are no vaccine restrictions, are they required to adhere to stricter screening? It does not appear the NFL rules specifically address this.
There may be a number of the NFL rules regarding COVID-19 which don't make much sense, but there need to be rules, and the players, including Rodgers, need to abide by the rules regardless. Rodgers can complain about the rules, but he had the option to sit out the season, to appeal the rules, to work with the NFLPA, or to abide by the rules. Whining about the rules after the fact is just an attempt to shift responsibility.
Not getting vaccinated was not one of those violations. Misleading the press was also not one of those violations. While Rodgers deserves some criticism for lying, it appears both the team and the NFL were fully aware that Rodgers was not vaccinated. For those who are attacking Rodgers for his decision not to get vaccinated, get over it. He was not required to get vaccinated.
Although attending parties and other large gatherings may be a bit foolish, I find it odd that Rodgers is being singled out for this. I suspect MANY players are doing the same. If the NFL wanted to operate in a bubble, then that is what they should have done.
Due in part to my line of work, like many others, I have exercised great caution for the past year and a half. I have cancelled vacation and travel plans. I do not attend large gatherings, even including several funerals. I made the informed decision to get vaccinated. I wear a mask where it is required. Some of this has been an inconvenience, to say the least, but some sacrifices and self discipline have been appropriate for me, under the circumstances.
I am not in the business of judging others' circumstances and the precautions they have taken (or not taken) throughout the pandemic. I disagree with some of the rules being pushed in the name of "safety", but a private business, of which the NFL is one, can impose its own rules, and I don't believe the NFL rules are draconian. My employer makes me wear a mask in certain settings. I don't really see the logic behind it, but I support my employer's right to make its own rules.
Rodgers comes off as selfish and even disingenuous with some of his comments. However, the attacks against him for his beliefs reveals a toxic trend of blatant intolerance, and that is a trend which is not isolated to either end of the political spectrum. I do not agree with a lot of what Rodgers believes, but I respect his right to believe it.
fatness
Footballguy
He has to be activated Saturday to play Sunday. No word yet. He also did acknowledge he had some COVID symptoms earlier, but no report on if he still has them.
fatness
Footballguy
I'm pretty sure someone advised Rodgers to apologize, but he did the usual wordplay instead.
What a baby. An adult would say "I'm sorry I misled people."
Runkle
Footballguy
Yeah, he says he's the smartest man in the room, thinks he can host Jeopardy!, and has done "all his own research" which he of course thinks is light years ahead of, you know, the actual scientists who went to school to learn all this stuff and do it full time.
Meanwhile, just about everyone else outside his bubble can just look at him, and see: this is a guy who doesn't even know how to use shampoo correctly. It's clear he's an idiot who doesn't know anything about what's going on, and gets all his news from facebook feeds. Now he's telling us he's right, everyone else is wrong, and he's upset he's getting mocked for it.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Ah yes, the old, “I’m sorry if you were offended by my words” rather than the more accurate, “I apologize for being offensive”.
It’s a subtle way of avoiding responsibility while passive aggressively blaming the victim for being fragile and easily offended; or in this case, stupid and gullible.
”sorry you were gullible enough to believe me when I told everyone I was immunized (by junk science)” rather than “sorry I lied about being vaccinated & violating protocols because my dirt-eating girlfriend told me homeopathy was just as good as a vaccine”.
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Kudos to State Farm:
“Aaron Rodgers has been a great ambassador for our company for much of the past decade,” a company spokeswoman said in a statement to USA TODAY Sports Monday morning.
“We don’t support some of the statements that he has made, but we respect his right to have his own personal point of view. We recognize our customers, employees, agents and brand ambassadors come from all walks of life, with differing viewpoints on many issues. Our mission at State Farm is to support safer, stronger communities. To that end, we encourage vaccinations, but respect everyone’s right to make a choice based on their personal circumstances.”
“Aaron Rodgers has been a great ambassador for our company for much of the past decade,” a company spokeswoman said in a statement to USA TODAY Sports Monday morning.
“We don’t support some of the statements that he has made, but we respect his right to have his own personal point of view. We recognize our customers, employees, agents and brand ambassadors come from all walks of life, with differing viewpoints on many issues. Our mission at State Farm is to support safer, stronger communities. To that end, we encourage vaccinations, but respect everyone’s right to make a choice based on their personal circumstances.”
Tau837
Footballguy
Maybe not directly. But he violated protocol by not wearing a mask when talking to the press, which obviously would have signaled he was not vaccinated. So his actions that violated protocol contributed to misleading the press.
It certainly doesn't matter to Rodgers, but how he handled this has caused me to lose respect for him. That isn't about his beliefs or stance on vaccination, which I disagree with, but rather with how he handled it by trying to hide/misrepresent his stance. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
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steelers1080
Footballguy
New Thread Title: QB Kaaron Rodgers, GB
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
"How much is Full Coverage...I mean Full Responsibility?"
-How does $14,650 sound to you, Aaron?
"If that's what full responsibility costs these days, I guess I'll have to pay it"
-How does $14,650 sound to you, Aaron?
"If that's what full responsibility costs these days, I guess I'll have to pay it"
Bossman
Footballguy
Lying about being vaccinated as a way to skirt all of the "non-vaccinated" player rules....
If Rogers played for the Patriots, there would be a 5 game suspension and the league would have the team forfeit a first round draft pick.
No way this isn't worse than playing with footballs 0.5 psi under the recommended limit.
If Rogers played for the Patriots, there would be a 5 game suspension and the league would have the team forfeit a first round draft pick.
No way this isn't worse than playing with footballs 0.5 psi under the recommended limit.
socrates
Footballguy
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Bossman
Footballguy
When you really think about the consequences of each of their actions...
Brady & Patriots skirted a rule that jeopardized the integrity of the game...
Aaron Rogers & GB jeopardized the health of players, staff, media, and anyone else that was potentially exposed to a life threatening virus.
Does the punishment fit the crime in both cases?
fatness
Footballguy
The NFL is really trying to downplay and ignore all of Rodgers's violations. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/11/10/how-aggressively-did-the-nfl-investigate-aaron-rodgers-covid-protocol-violations/
socrates
Footballguy
massraider
Footballguy
Whatever NFL punishment he may have skirted, his punishment in the court of public opinion I am sure will be severe.
No one should pretend Rodgers can simply ignore this mistake like he can ignore a 14K fine.
He will get static about this from people for years. In restaurants, on planes, shopping, everywhere. People are pizzed about this.
I ain't sure why some people were expecting the NFL to crack down on Aaron Rodgers like he's a wife-beating long snapper, maybe they have goldfish memories.
No one should pretend Rodgers can simply ignore this mistake like he can ignore a 14K fine.
He will get static about this from people for years. In restaurants, on planes, shopping, everywhere. People are pizzed about this.
I ain't sure why some people were expecting the NFL to crack down on Aaron Rodgers like he's a wife-beating long snapper, maybe they have goldfish memories.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
WTF? Toe now? This guy…………
Insein
Footballguy
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Only it’s not subtle.Ah yes, the old, “I’m sorry if you were offended by my words” rather than the more accurate, “I apologize for being offensive”.
It’s a subtle way of avoiding responsibility while passive aggressively blaming the victim for being fragile and easily offended; or in this case, stupid and gullible.
”sorry you were gullible enough to believe me when I told everyone I was immunized (by junk science)” rather than “sorry I lied about being vaccinated & violating protocols because my dirt-eating girlfriend told me homeopathy was just as good as a vaccine”.
BigJim®
Footballguy
fatness
Footballguy
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Dizzy
Footballguy
Aaron Rogers = drama queen
"The toe, it's bad, it's really painful... not turf toe, I had turf toe and it's much worse than that... remember that when I give it my all on Sunday and all those past athletes that couldn't play because of turf toe... this is so much worse, but I'll be out there."
So you're questionable for Sunday?
"Oh no... no injury designation."
Desert_Power
Footballguy
fatness said:
What is wrong with this guy?Quick refresher. On Tuesday’s Pat McAfee show, Rodgers specifically said he has “COVID toe.” We thought it was a joke. Andrew Beaton of the Wall Street Journal did not. During a Wednesday press conference, Rodgers verbally chastised the wrong reporter for believing him when he said, in his own words and with his own voice, that he has COVID toe.
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