All that matters to me is, did he intend to say immunized in hopes people would think he was shot? If he did, I don't care about his right not to get jabbed.
Remember this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4XT-l-_3y0
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Remember this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4XT-l-_3y0
socrates
Footballguy
So, basically what you are saying is that for you, lying in a sworn deposition is the same as lying to the press about being vaccinated while telling the league and the team the truth?
Ok
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Insein
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
In fairness it is possible he could have missed this game even if he was vaccinated. He still would have had to test positive twice before the game, and it seems most that have gone on the list haven’t been able to do that.
I think he will. He missed out on some easy stats today and an easy win. He may miss next week as well. He can say good bye to the possibility of getting a bye.
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
socrates
Footballguy
Would you characterize every player who is unvaccinated as "selfish jerks"? Note that the NFL does not mandate players get vaccinated.
If the Packers knew Rodgers' vaccination status and failed to enforce protocols, are they selfish jerks?
I'm not really defending Aaron Rodgers. I think going to a Halloween party was probably foolish and selfish. Not getting vaccinated, however, was within the rules, and not something I would consider an act of selfishness.
All unvaccinated players are selfish jerks. They put themselves in a position to more likely miss games which hurts the team. A player as important as Rogers should never be in this situation.
I'm sure he did enjoy watching love play horribly and lose. Rogers is a great player but he is not a winner. He is no Tom Brady who would do anything to win. He really didn't even want to come back to Green Bay anyway.
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
I honestly can't fathom how there are still people making arguments like this.
The protocols are not in place to help/save the low risk sector of the population. They are in place to keep this thing from spreading to the higher risk portions of the population. (Not to mention the battle against mutations.)
Ridgeback
Footballguy
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
skol asylum
Footballguy
socrates
Footballguy
So your contention is that the NFL rules are not designed for player safety, but rather just to protect other vulnerable members of society?
Stealthycat
Footballguy
NFL Covid-19 protocols state vaccinated players who test positive and remain asymptomatic are eligible to return after testing negative twice in a 24-hour span. Unvaccinated players are required to quarantine for 10 days and then test negative to return.
because the vax covid positive player isn't as contagious? LOL .... the virus doesn't care if the host its infecting has a vaccine card
discrimination pure and simple - every covid positive should be treated equally
if they tested vaxxed players like they do unvaxxed, they'd find a LOT more players with covid - its all about the counting too
because the vax covid positive player isn't as contagious? LOL .... the virus doesn't care if the host its infecting has a vaccine card
discrimination pure and simple - every covid positive should be treated equally
if they tested vaxxed players like they do unvaxxed, they'd find a LOT more players with covid - its all about the counting too
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
So your contention is that the NFL rules are not designed for player safety, but rather just to protect other vulnerable members of society?
Both, but definitely more heavily in favor of the latter.
(And the latter certainly includes coaches, staff, team employees, player families, etc., who are certainly not the same caliber of physical specimen of your typical NFL player.)
Insein
Footballguy
DallasDMac
Footballguy
Yea, despite moderator warnings. It will be moved to that other forum next time they pass trough I imagine.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Incredibly selfish. Incredibly arrogant.
Insein
Footballguy
Only issue I have with him is have some more conviction in your stance. Cousins did. Beasley did and they took the heat. Otherwise I have no problem with him not bowing down to the NFL trying to coerce him into getting the jab with their nonsensical and arbitrary rules that do not protect anyone let alone the players from Covid.
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Judge Smails
Footballguy
Wait. Wat? So nobody is better protected from others being vaccinate or contact tracing? Is that what you’re saying. Wed all be better off and safer with nobody vaccinated and no tracing? Brilliant
Insein
Footballguy
I'm saying that the policies they have enacted do nothing to protect people from Covid since vaccinated players are not tested at the same rate or required to have the same standards for contact. The disease still spreads as shown to vaccinated people. The NFL is not about making sure things are safe. They are about looking like they are doing something positive.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
They are trying to play games and honor TV contracts. That means avoiding wide scale breakouts. Hence the policies
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
Insein
Footballguy
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
Insein
Footballguy
This is the Aaron Rodgers thread. Head the Covid thread (one of the dozen or so) in the Political forum. Plenty to satisfy your curiosity. Or there is always Google.
Capella
Footballguy
Blah blah blah. Vaccinated people are multitudes less likely to catch and then spread it. That doesn’t mean they still can’t catch it. I don’t know why seemingly intelligent people cannot grasp this very simple concept.
Some of the nfl policies around this are pretty stupid but trying to get players vaccinated is not one of them. It’s a billion dollar business, they want their biggest stars out there. If Rodgers had been vaxxed he would have been way less likely to catch it. Period.
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We're tired of deleting posts.
One last time before the entire thread is permanently moved to the non football forum and we start over with a new Rodgers thread in the Shark Pool: Keep this thread in this forum 100% NFL.
One last time before the entire thread is permanently moved to the non football forum and we start over with a new Rodgers thread in the Shark Pool: Keep this thread in this forum 100% NFL.
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
This! The NFL doesn't care about the science, we're talking about an entity that knows about the detrimental long term impact of football on the human bodies and minds...they care about the almighty dollar and how to keep extracting as much of it as possible from NFL fans That entire chain gets interrupted when things like this happen so while I know in the FFA you and I many times will have differing POV, for the Shark Pool purposes, this is spot on and all that Goodell cares about.
Less stars equals less viewers, not many people want to watch back up QBs in the NFL in primetime match ups.
Excellent post and on point.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Which is also why the punishment, if there is one, will be fines and not suspensions. And why the league was willing to look the other way until Rodgers coming down with COVID forced their hand.
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Insoxicated
NFL ONLY guys.
Plenty of threads over in FFA if you want to show that your ability to use Google means you're smarter than scientists/doctors who have spent their lives on this topic.
Rodgers' decision is costing him and his team. Hopefully he's back soon and doesn't cost his teammates a much needed playoff bye.
Plenty of threads over in FFA if you want to show that your ability to use Google means you're smarter than scientists/doctors who have spent their lives on this topic.
Rodgers' decision is costing him and his team. Hopefully he's back soon and doesn't cost his teammates a much needed playoff bye.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I want to believe Rodgers gets them 14 instead of 7 and they win the football game. Maybe his presence different KC game plan but Rodgers wins that game IMHO. He already cost them a game.
GB Coach fell on the sword after the game, good leadership and wise move.
I think the Packers fans better realize the immense drop off coming when Rodgers leaves and they turn it over to Jordan Love.
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Is there clarity on how Rodgers COVID status will be treated going forward? Could he miss another game due to his vaccination status?
>>One unchanged rule is the high-risk close contact protocol. Fully vaccinated individuals will not be designated as high-risk close contacts, but can be held to daily testing for five days. Therefore, only unvaccinated players are at risk of missing games without a positive test.<<
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nfl.com/_amp/nfl-nflpa-agree-to-covid-19-protocols-for-regular-season
>>One unchanged rule is the high-risk close contact protocol. Fully vaccinated individuals will not be designated as high-risk close contacts, but can be held to daily testing for five days. Therefore, only unvaccinated players are at risk of missing games without a positive test.<<
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nfl.com/_amp/nfl-nflpa-agree-to-covid-19-protocols-for-regular-season
Capella
Footballguy
Yea everybody is assuming he’s back next week but seems to me there’s like a 40% chance he’s out again.
Capella
Footballguy
Adams seemed to be open on multiple throws Rodgers would have hit. There is zero doubt in my mind that if he plays Green Bay wins. He cost them that game for sure.
Some clarity: Aaron Rodgers gets a 90-day break from COVID testing, “close contact” rules
>>The good news, if there is any, for the Packers arising from the positive COVID test generated by quarterback Aaron Rodgers is that, for 90 days after his positive test, the previously secretly unvaccinated quarterback won’t have to be tested. That’s one of the aspects of the joint NFL-NFLPA COVID protocols about which the delicate genius surely won’t be complaining.
So when does the 90 days expire? MDS has done the count. Rodgers won’t be tested again until two days after the NFC Championship, if the Packers are still alive at that point.
The testing would resume 12 days before the Super Bowl, putting him at risk of being knocked out for the NFL title game, if the Packers are still alive at that point.
Per the joint NFL-NFLPA COVID protocols, Rodgers also won’t be subject to a five-day break if he’s a close contact with someone who tests positive. Instead, he would be monitored for symptoms more closely during the 90-day period. Again, however, during the 12-day window before the Super Bowl, the “close contact” possibility would return.
All other provisions of the joint NFL-NFLPA protocol will apply to Rodgers during the 90-day testing holiday. Masks, social distancing, limits on activities outside the facility, and limits on travel will apply. Likewise, he won’t be able to leave town during the team’s Week 13 bye, even though he won’t be required to show up for testing.<<
he would have put 30 on the chiefs yesterday....
ChiefD
Footballguy
Yeah. I was at the game last night and agree completely. The good thing I saw Love do was he generally picked the right guy to throw to. He was mostly throwing into single coverage from what I could see.
I thought the LeFleur didn't do him any favors with the game plan. They probably should have run more and throw more screens - the Chiefs were doing a pretty good job with their blitzes, and a few well timed screens could have stopped that and gotten them some huge plays.
fatness
Footballguy
Harry Frogfish
Footballguy
What is with calling it a jab? It's a shot. This isn't boxing.
socrates
Footballguy
