QB Aaron Rodgers, PIT (6 Viewers)

[Faust]

With Derek Carr off the market, Jets make it clear that it's Aaron Rodgers or bust

 

[The Kerminator]

Trey Wingo reports the Jets and Rodgers spoke on Monday

 

[Faust]

ESPN's Rob Demovsky believes the Packers "clearly" gave Aaron Rodgers permission to speak with the Jets about a trade. ​

Demovsky was following up on a Tuesday ESPN report about Rodgers having conversations with the Jets about a possible trade this offseason. "Not sure yet whether they've given Rodgers and any other teams permission to talk or if it's just the Jets at this point," Demovsky said. The ESPN report described the Jets as a "realistic option" for Rodgers if the mercurial 39 year old does not retire. The two sides would have to figure out Rodgers' massive, complex contract situation if he is to head to New York and play under offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett, with whom he worked closely in Green Bay before the 2022 season. The Packers are reportedly ready to move on with Jordan Love as the team's starter if Rodgers approves of a trade or calls it quits.
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SOURCE: Rob Demovsky on Twitter
Mar 7, 2023 at 11:40 AM ET

 

[Faust]

ESPN's Dan Graziano and Rob Demovsky report Jets team officials are meeting Aaron Rodgers on Tuesday.​

It's been cleared by the national media that the Packers have allowed this to happen. Now we'll simply have to see what kind of vibes Rodgers gets from meeting with the Jets. There's a clear tier break in available quarterbacks after Rodgers, so one could argue this is a make-or-break meeting for New York's offseason. The Jets could possibly come back to Jimmy Garoppolo if Rodgers refuses to give them a rose. All eyes remain on Rodgers as the rest of the quarterback carousel waits for his resolution to get things going.
SOURCE: Rob Demovsky on Twitter
Mar 7, 2023 at 2:12 PM ET

 

[beef]

Rodgers would be a perfect humble and team first mentor to Wilson.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Rodgers would be a perfect humble and team first mentor to Wilson.

I don’t care if he takes a dump in Wilson’s gym bag.

 

[Kiddnets]

Rodgers would be a perfect humble and team first mentor to Wilson.

I don’t care if he takes a dump in Wilson’s gym bag.

lol agreed - Wilson should be a complete non-factor in this decision - however multiple articles in the past show that Wilson and Rodgers are friendly. Wilson called him for advice many times. Rodgers isnt a good "mentor" in that hes not going to specifically teach Wilson but I think being around each other may be a benefit to Wilson. JD seems to be obsessed with not having the obvious Wilson bust on his resume and this would be a move to keep a glimmer of hope alive.

 

[Yogibear]

Who wants to bet that this will be a one-year deal with him and the Jets, and that in 2024, he signs with one of the other NFC North teams in 2024, like Brett Favre did toward the end of his career?

 

[Anarchy99]

Who wants to bet that this will be a one-year deal with him and the Jets, and that in 2024, he signs with one of the other NFC North teams in 2024, like Brett Favre did toward the end of his career?

Favre got traded to the Jets for a 4th round pick with a year left on his contract. He signed the year after with the Vikings, meaning the Jets didn’t eat any dead cap money.

I doubt the Jets will only fork over a 4th round pick for Rodgers. I’m not sure what the trade would do to his cap hit, but it looks as of now he would leave behind a $25 million cap charge if he doesn’t play past this season (not sure what the Packers would have to pay).

Given all that, I doubt the Jets would want to take on his contract, cap hit, and draft picks for him to only play one season. And there’s no way Rodgers would be worse than Wilson (or Favre back in the day).

Unless he’s cut by the Jets, he could sign anywhere else. They would have to trade him. Not sure any of that would make sense.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Who wants to bet that this will be a one-year deal with him and the Jets, and that in 2024, he signs with one of the other NFC North teams in 2024, like Brett Favre did toward the end of his career?

No one.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

(or Favre back in the day).

Favre was excellent with the Jets until he blew out his bicep and Mangini didn’t have the stones to bench him.
They were 8-3 coming off wins against the previously unbeaten (10-0) Titans and the Patriots in Foxboro on a Thursday Night (albeit with Matt Cassell at QB), before falling apart once Favre couldn’t throw the ball more than 10 yards.

 

[Anarchy99]

(or Favre back in the day).

Favre was excellent with the Jets until he blew out his bicep and Mangini didn’t have the stones to bench him.
They were 8-3 coming off wins against the previously unbeaten (10-0) Titans and the Patriots in Foxboro on a Thursday Night (albeit with Matt Cassell at QB), before falling apart once Favre couldn’t throw the ball more than 10 yards.

I just remember the Jets season going south late in the season, and Favre not looking very good by the end of the year. That was the year Brady got hurt and MIA won 9 out of 10 to close out the season to knock NE out of the playoffs. I don't recall much more than that.

 

[Faust]

ESPN's Dianna Russini reports "there's optimism in the Jets’ organization that they are on the brink" of acquiring Aaron Rodgers. ​

Jets officials, including owner Woody Johnson, met with Rodgers in "extensive" talks this week, according to Russini, and Johnson left the sit-down "excited and satisfied" with Rodgers' potential fit in the Jets offense. Russini said the Packers and Jets "remain engaged in conversations about compensation and contract" and that "those conversation already started before the meeting." With the Packers reportedly ready to move on from their longtime quarterback, Rodgers could become a Jet in the coming days -- barring a last-minute change of heart for the mercurial QB. The Jordan Love era in Green Bay seems close at hand, and the Zach Wilson era in New York appears over.
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SOURCE: Dianna Russini on Twitter
Mar 9, 2023, 7:51 AM ET

 

[Tau837]

I doubt the Jets will only fork over a 4th round pick for Rodgers. I’m not sure what the trade would do to his cap hit, but it looks as of now he would leave behind a $25 million cap charge if he doesn’t play past this season (not sure what the Packers would have to pay).

Given all that, I doubt the Jets would want to take on his contract, cap hit, and draft picks for him to only play one season.

From this article: Looking Ahead to the Packers Options with Aaron Rodgers

What Happens if the Packers Trade Aaron Rodgers?

Rodgers does not have a no trade clause in his contract so he could be traded to a team as well. The timing of the option should give the Packers all the way until the end of training camp to move him. The cap charge here would depend on when he was traded. If Rodgers were to be traded prior to June 1st the Packers would take on a $40,313,750 cap hit in 2023. If he was traded after June 1st it would be a $15,833,570 cap hit in 2023 with $24,480,000 due in 2024. This assumes that the Packers did not exercise the option before the trade. If the option is exercised then the trade number spikes to nearly $100 million. There should be no need to exercise the option until the last possible day.

For the team acquiring Rodgers they would be on the hook for the salary for the year. The cap charge would be $59,515,000 if they do not exercise his option and $15.79 million if they were to exercise the option. Rodgers has an injury guarantee of $49.25 million for 2024 but that does not become fully guaranteed until 5 days after the 2023 Super Bowl. If Rodgers was cut after 2023 it would cost the team $43.725 million on the 2024 cap. If he retired they could split that as $14.575 million in 2024 and $29.15 million in 2025 using a similar June 2nd date as mentioned above in the retirement option.

Assuming the Jets acquire him and exercise his option, this suggests his cap hit in 2023 would be just $15.79M, but releasing him after 2023 would leave a dead cap hit of $43.725M against the 2024 cap. This supports the notion that it would not be for just one season.

 

[Anarchy99]

Assuming the Jets acquire him and exercise his option, this suggests his cap hit in 2023 would be just $15.79M, but releasing him after 2023 would leave a dead cap hit of $43.725M against the 2024 cap. This supports the notion that it would not be for just one season.

I also saw a blurb that all parties involved are discussing revising AR's contract, what would work for both teams, and what assets would be moved for the Jets to acquire him. Based on that, who knows what the new contract particulars would be, if the Packers would be willing to pay some of his salary, if Rodgers is willing to give up anything to get moved, what the cap hit would then be for GB, what the cap hit would be for NYJ in the future, etc. Bottom line, everything about Rodgers' contract could change in the next few days. All that aside, I doubt the Jets are looking to acquire Rodgers with any consideration of him only playing for one season.

 

[IHEARTFF]

will he cost the Jets their 24 1? more than that?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

will he cost the Jets their 24 1? more than that?

rumors are 2023 2nd and 2024 3rd that can escalate to a 1st based on playoff wins

 

[IHEARTFF]

will he cost the Jets their 24 1? more than that?

rumors are 2023 2nd and 2024 3rd that can escalate to a 1st based on playoff wins

that seems reasonable

 

[beef]

If I were Gutekunts I'd accept a hot wet fart in my mouth just to get rid of Rodgers and that contract.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

If I were Gutekunts I'd accept a hot wet fart in my mouth just to get rid of Rodgers and that contract.

I dunno, seems like poor return on a former MVP.

 

[sho nuff]

Seems the latest talk is about package deal (speculation that David Bahktiari will be a part of it)

No way you give up both without this year’s first from the Jets.

 

[Dark Matter]

Seems the latest talk is about package deal (speculation that David Bahktiari will be a part of it)

No way you give up both without this year’s first from the Jets.

My most recent PFF Mock Draft Simulator has GB acquiring all 6 NYJ picks plus Corey Davis for Rodgers

 

[Snoopy]

There was a rumor that LT Bakhitiari would be included in a package deal, but the Packers just restructured his contract.

 

[Faust]

Packers CEO Mark Murphy can see Aaron Rodgers returning 'if things don't work out the way we would want'

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Packers CEO Mark Murphy can see Aaron Rodgers returning 'if things don't work out the way we would want'

I have been so close to making an offer for Love in my 16-team SF. I need this to be done already!!!

 

[The Kerminator]

Seems the latest talk is about package deal (speculation that David Bahktiari will be a part of it)

No way you give up both without this year’s first from the Jets.

That speculation was by one GB beat writer that had nothing to go on other than his speculation and craving for clicks.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

If I were Gutekunts I'd accept a hot wet fart in my mouth just to get rid of Rodgers and that contract.

I dunno, seems like poor return on a former MVP.

He's like 50 yrs old, maybe if they traded him while he was in his prime
You can go the route of the Patriots and get nothing at some point for your HoF QB

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

If I were Gutekunts I'd accept a hot wet fart in my mouth just to get rid of Rodgers and that contract.

I dunno, seems like poor return on a former MVP.

He's like 50 yrs old, maybe if they traded him while he was in his prime
You can go the route of the Patriots and get nothing at some point for your HoF QB

Yes, but in addition, the oral recipient of said moist flatulence would have to have a very specific kink to even entertain such an offer.

I remain unconvinced that this is a good value.

 

[JohnnyU]

I can see him retiring.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I can see him retiring.

And losing $50M?

I can’t.

I also don’t believe his ego will let him leave football on that sour of a note as 2022 GBP.

 

[JohnnyU]

I can see him retiring.

And losing $50M?

I can’t.

I also don’t believe his ego will let him leave football on that sour of a note as 2022 GBP.

Something tells me he doesn’t need the money. Something also tells me he is somewhere else mentally. I don’t think we know squat about his ego.

 

[beef]

If I were Gutekunts I'd accept a hot wet fart in my mouth just to get rid of Rodgers and that contract.

I dunno, seems like poor return on a former MVP.

He's like 50 yrs old, maybe if they traded him while he was in his prime
You can go the route of the Patriots and get nothing at some point for your HoF QB

Yes, but in addition, the oral recipient of said moist flatulence would have to have a very specific kink to even entertain such an offer.

I remain unconvinced that this is a good value.

I think your underestimating the value of cap space and the power of Listerine.

 

[beef]

If Rodgers retired, he'd just unretire later after some magical precognition from licking a toads junk during a therapy trip in the Luang Prabang Montane rain forests.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

If Rodgers retired, he'd just unretire later after some magical precognition from licking a toads junk during a therapy trip in the Luang Prabang Montane rain forests.

 

[efactor]

I can see him retiring.

And losing $50M?

I can’t.

I also don’t believe his ego will let him leave football on that sour of a note as 2022 GBP.

Something tells me he doesn’t need the money. Something also tells me he is somewhere else mentally. I don’t think we know squat about his ego.

You always need 59 million dollars. Even if you don’t really need it

A lot of things you can do with 30 million after taxes. So I have heard anyway.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

You always need 59 million dollars. Even if you don’t really need it

Yeah, he’s playing.

 

[Snoopy]

I can see him retiring.

And losing $50M?

I can’t.

I also don’t believe his ego will let him leave football on that sour of a note as 2022 GBP.

or sharing the HOF limelight the same year as Brady.

 

[zamboni]

You always need 59 million dollars. Even if you don’t really need it

Yes - have you seen the inflationary impact on the cost of peyote?

 

[Faust]

Multiple sources report the Packers and Jets have agreed to terms on a deal for QB Aaron Rodgers.​

That leaves the ball firmly in Rodgers' court as he continues to contemplate a potential retirement. That said, the options now appear clear - either play for the Jets in 2023 or retire from football. Another piece of fallout from the reports is the near certainty of the Packers being quarterbacked by Jordan Love moving forward. While Love has shown little on the field to show he is ready to take the reins for the storied franchise, numerous people close to the organization continue to sing his praise. More to come on one of the more enigmatic storylines of this offseason.
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Mar 11, 2023, 1:46 PM ET

Updating previous reports, NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reports the Packers and Jets "have not agreed to the framework of an Aaron Rodgers trade."​

This comes just hours after reports from multiple agencies surfaced stating the contrary. Pelissero adds, "If he decides he wants to go to New York, then the teams will work to hammer out a deal." Whatever the case may be, all eyes are currently fixed on Aaron Rodgers, the Packers, and the Jets as the three parties continue to work towards their respective futures. The likeliest scenario still stands that Aaron Rodgers has played his last down for Green Bay, indicating a shift in focus to third-year quarterback Jordan Love.
SOURCE: Tom Pelissero on Twitter
Mar 11, 2023, 3:22 PM ET

 

[IHEARTFF]

Cool cool cool

 

[menobrown]

I can see him retiring.

And losing $50M?

I can’t.

I also don’t believe his ego will let him leave football on that sour of a note as 2022 GBP.

or sharing the HOF limelight the same year as Brady.

No way he would ever stay retired.

Now what's right up his alley is to retire now. This way he can act like he's above the money and try and show people who said he could not walk away from it they don't know what they are talking about. He'll have a few laughs about on the Pat McCaffee show, about how people think they know but they don't know. He'll enjoy soaking up a few weeks of the post-mortem, the stories about his greatness, that sort of thing. GB will try and deal with the cap hit and move forward with Love. Then he'll choose to return later when it's to late to trade him and GB will be stuck with him.

I could see him going through this routine. No way he is done-done.

 

[rockaction]

GB will try and deal with the cap hit and move forward with Love. Then he'll choose to return later when it's to late to trade him and GB will be stuck with him.

I could see him going through this routine.

Maman died today. Or yesterday maybe, I don't know. I got a telegram from the home: 'Mother deceased. Funeral tomorrow. Faithfully yours.' That doesn't mean anything. Maybe it was yesterday...

...I had only to wish that there be a large crowd of spectators the day of my execution and that they greet me with cries of hate

 

[Faust]

In an interview with the I Am Athlete podcast, Aaron Rodgers said "it won't be long" when asked about him being traded to the Jets.​

All eyes remain on Rodgers, who has had multiple conversations with the Jets over the last week, which included owner Woody Johnson flying out to meet him. It's safe to say rumors about Rodgers and the Jets are keeping everybody busy after reports of a trade being agreed upon were debunked by NFL Network's Tom Pelissero just hours later. From the outside looking in, it appears Rodgers being traded to the Jets is a lock to happen. However, knowing Rodgers, we can't rule out any unexpected plot twists.
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SOURCE: I Am Athlete
Mar 12, 2023, 9:45 AM ET

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

This sonova…

Just make the decision already

I wanna make a stupid offer for Love and I’m absolutely certain if I make a deal now he’ll decide to return to GB or something insane that makes me feel like an idiot for doing it.

I might just throw out the offer. It sure sounds like he’s done in GB.

 

[zamboni]

In an interview with the I Am Athlete podcast, Aaron Rodgers said "it won't be long" when asked about him being traded to the Jets.​

All eyes remain on Rodgers, who has had multiple conversations with the Jets over the last week, which included owner Woody Johnson flying out to meet him. It's safe to say rumors about Rodgers and the Jets are keeping everybody busy after reports of a trade being agreed upon were debunked by NFL Network's Tom Pelissero just hours later. From the outside looking in, it appears Rodgers being traded to the Jets is a lock to happen. However, knowing Rodgers, we can't rule out any unexpected plot twists.
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SOURCE: I Am Athlete
Mar 12, 2023, 9:45 AM ET

Would be more appropriate for him to appear on the “I Am A PITA” podcast.

 

[Willy]

This sonova…

Just make the decision already

I wanna make a stupid offer for Love and I’m absolutely certain if I make a deal now he’ll decide to return to GB or something insane that makes me feel like an idiot for doing it.

I might just throw out the offer. It sure sounds like he’s done in GB.

Packers giving permission for the Jets to talk with him is a clear sign they want to move on. They could have said something like the Cincy GM said about Higgins if they really wanted to keep him. I suppose there's a scenario in which no deal is worked out and Rodgers wants his money so he goes back to the Packers. Just seems unlikely.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I suppose there's a scenario in which no deal is worked out and Rodgers wants his money so he goes back to the Packers. Just seems unlikely.

With any other player I’d have made the offer already.

Rodgers is the one dude who could do this. I take nothing for granted. I just can’t trade for Love until an actual announcement is made.

 

[ghostguy123]

I suppose there's a scenario in which no deal is worked out and Rodgers wants his money so he goes back to the Packers. Just seems unlikely.

With any other player I’d have made the offer already.

Rodgers is the one dude who could do this. I take nothing for granted. I just can’t trade for Love until an actual announcement is made.

Wouldn't that increase Loves value?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Wouldn't that increase Loves value?

The love owner I’ve been in talks with is negotiating as though he’s the locked in starter, so no - it would just give me more confidence to pay locked in starter assets.

 

[ghostguy123]

Wouldn't that increase Loves value?

The love owner I’ve been in talks with is negotiating as though he’s the locked in starter, so no - it would just give me more confidence to pay locked in starter assets.

I'll bet dollar to donuts the price goes up if Rodgers is traded.