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QB Aaron Rodgers, PIT (6 Viewers)

The #Vikings have rejected multiple trade calls on J.J. McCarthy, telling other teams they’re moving forward with him as their quarterback, sources say.The team plans to add a veteran. But they’re not pursuing Aaron Rodgers at this time. McCarthy now enters the offseason as QB1.
If they get close to the beginning of the season and McCarthy is looking baffled or is stinking it up, that "not pursuing" may change.
 
Is it me or has Aaron Rodgers become the most hated potential starting QB in the NFL, outside of perhaps DeShaun Watson?
It feels like folks are openly rooting against him being given the opportunity to lead another NFL team.
And Rodgers has 2 teams left with Playoff aspirations to say the least, both Pittsburgh and Minnesota
The Vikings say they are not interested and that leaves basically one team that he should focus on

I don't see Rodgers being a great fit in Pittsburgh
How long are the Steelers going to continue to suffer with no real plan at Quarterback?
 
Is it me or has Aaron Rodgers become the most hated potential starting QB in the NFL, outside of perhaps DeShaun Watson?
It feels like folks are openly rooting against him being given the opportunity to lead another NFL team.
And Rodgers has 2 teams left with Playoff aspirations to say the least, both Pittsburgh and Minnesota
The Vikings say they are not interested and that leaves basically one team that he should focus on

I don't see Rodgers being a great fit in Pittsburgh
How long are the Steelers going to continue to suffer with no real plan at Quarterback?
I've kind of been surprised the NYG opportunity hasn't been more appealing to him.

My guess is that he still feels like he's an elite QB. So the act of joining a team with a pretty solid defensive core while also having perhaps the most dynamic young WR in the game as well as the #3 pick...all while not having to uproot from NY? I would have thought that would have held some appeal.

Is the division rough, sure. But if you're 'competing for championships' who cares.
 
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Are people are living in the past or is this just a fantasy football thing? From winning NFL games perspective, I am more interested in where Russel Wilson lands than Aaron Rodgers.
 
Are people are living in the past or is this just a fantasy football thing? From winning NFL games perspective, I am more interested in where Russel Wilson lands than Aaron Rodgers.
Rodgers is probably still better than Wilson. They were both basically league average qbs statistically last year, but Rodgers had to throw much more often. Not super exciting but he's certainly better than nothing.
 
Are people are living in the past or is this just a fantasy football thing? From winning NFL games perspective, I am more interested in where Russel Wilson lands than Aaron Rodgers.
Rodgers is probably still better than Wilson. They were both basically league average qbs statistically last year, but Rodgers had to throw much more often. Not super exciting but he's certainly better than nothing.
Agree to disagree. AFC North opponents were better than the AFC East opponents IMO. Russel Wilson played in less games.
 
The #Vikings have rejected multiple trade calls on J.J. McCarthy, telling other teams they’re moving forward with him as their quarterback, sources say.The team plans to add a veteran. But they’re not pursuing Aaron Rodgers at this time. McCarthy now enters the offseason as QB1.
If they get close to the beginning of the season and McCarthy is looking baffled or is stinking it up, that "not pursuing" may change.
would be shocked if this happened
 
Are people are living in the past or is this just a fantasy football thing? From winning NFL games perspective, I am more interested in where Russel Wilson lands than Aaron Rodgers.
Rodgers is probably still better than Wilson. They were both basically league average qbs statistically last year, but Rodgers had to throw much more often. Not super exciting but he's certainly better than nothing.
from pure football perspective yes, and Wilson has his own issues, but I dunno at some point a guy who is a big enough pain in the a__ just becomes not worth it, not sure we're there yet or not but it's possible
 
If I were the Giants, I would put the chips on the table and push them all in to move up to get Cam. I would sign Wilson to a one-year deal, not rush Cam, and let him ease in his rookie year. This could buy Dabs an extra year. Of course, Tennessee would have to be willing to move back for this to happen. If Wilson went elsewhere, then it would be Flacco or Winston.
 
Guy is a d-bag and will never come close to a deep playoff run and is 41 years old. Teams need to forget him. If he helps them win 8 games, then they lose out on a top QB the next year. Mind boggling how poorly franchises are run.
Also, Aaron Rodgers has been estranged from his family, including his parents Ed and Darla, and brothers Jordan and Luke, since 2014, though he has expressed openness to reconciliation. Guy doesn't even talk to his family in over 10 years. Something is very wrong with that.
 
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Guys a d-bag and will never come close to a deep playoff run and is 41 years old. Teams need to forget him. If he helps them win 8 games, then they lose out on a top QB the next year. Mind boggling how poorly franchises are run.
Also, Aaron Rodgers has been estranged from his family, including his parents Ed and Darla, and brothers Jordan and Luke, since 2014, though he has expressed openness to reconciliation. Guy doesn't even talk to his family in over 10 years. Something is very wrong with that.
Yeah, I am sure he is the first and only NFL player to have family issues. :lol:
 
As a Steelers fan I hate the way he seems to put them off and would rather leak out reports he just might rather retire if playing with them is one of his few options.He's for sure low on the likeability meter, at least for me. Has not played what I'd consider better then average football since 2021

For about a week now the first thing I check every morning is hoping I see that he's a Steeler.
 
Aaron Rodgers Drawing Very Little Interest From Media Companies

Aaron Rodgers still has a few NFL teams vying for his services. But if he wants to retire and move into sports media, the former Packers and Jets QB might find a chilly reception, Front Office Sports has learned. With the 41-year-old Rodgers at a career crossroads, I spoke with sources at multiple NFL media partners, as well as agents, to gauge his prospects. I found surprisingly little interest in one of the league’s all-time great QBs.
Rodgers, who will turn 42 in December, is smart, incisive, and highly quotable. Media outfits typically desire those qualities. So what’s the problem? None of the network executives or talent agents I talked to would go on the record.
Their main concern, under condition of anonymity, is that Rodgers comes off as a pompous know-it-all who would turn off viewers. His dalliance with COVID-19 conspiracy theories and public feuds with critics like Jimmy Kimmel on The Pat McAfee Show also concern some. With that in mind, the prospect of hiring Rodgers does not thrill executives. “Yes, he could be a great analyst. But he’s insufferable,” said one source.
 
Reportedly meeting with the Steelers
Deal however is not imminent

-Has there ever been a possible deal where both sides thought so little of each other?
Aaron was not banging on their door and it doesn't sound like Pittsburgh really wants him either
This has the makings of disaster written all over it.

The first time Rodgers undermines Mike Tomlin in any way on any podcast, media, McAfee, he is toast/gone
Just knowing that before either side opens their mouth, what are the odds Rodgers can do anything like that? Play hard and keep quiet, that's just not his style

 
Aaron was not banging on their door and it doesn't sound like Pittsburgh really wants him either
I believe he's been their #1 target since FA opened.
Agreed.

I think the media has successfully gotten people worked up about nothing. Rodgers hasn't made any statements, hasn't done anything to suggest he's got a list of demands or what have you. He's just been quietly weighing his options, while every day there is a new story about him, that is almost certainly pulled from thin air. This visit is the first real thing he's done.

I hate that I have had to defend Aaron Rodgers all of March, but its been wild how he's being treated by the media. You'd think he was on TV lying and contradicting himself every day given what gets said.
 
Aaron was not banging on their door and it doesn't sound like Pittsburgh really wants him either
I believe he's been their #1 target since FA opened.
Agreed.

I think the media has successfully gotten people worked up about nothing. Rodgers hasn't made any statements, hasn't done anything to suggest he's got a list of demands or what have you. He's just been quietly weighing his options, while every day there is a new story about him, that is almost certainly pulled from thin air. This visit is the first real thing he's done.

I hate that I have had to defend Aaron Rodgers all of March, but its been wild how he's being treated by the media. You'd think he was on TV lying and contradicting himself every day given what gets said.
Ah, I see you're standing up for Aaron Rodgers! Let me guess, it's because he's single-handedly carried your fantasy football team to glory so many times, you feel like you owe him a statue in your living room. :wink:
 
Aaron was not banging on their door and it doesn't sound like Pittsburgh really wants him either
I believe he's been their #1 target since FA opened.
Agreed.

I think the media has successfully gotten people worked up about nothing. Rodgers hasn't made any statements, hasn't done anything to suggest he's got a list of demands or what have you. He's just been quietly weighing his options, while every day there is a new story about him, that is almost certainly pulled from thin air. This visit is the first real thing he's done.

I hate that I have had to defend Aaron Rodgers all of March, but its been wild how he's being treated by the media. You'd think he was on TV lying and contradicting himself every day given what gets said.
Ah, I see you're standing up for Aaron Rodgers! Let me guess, it's because he's single-handedly carried your fantasy football team to glory so many times, you feel like you owe him a statue in your living room. :wink:

:confused:

I don't think anyone thinks they need a statue.

It's talk about a player that might possibly be a starting QB this year. If he is, he'll have some value in fantasy football to some people. Talking about that kind of stuff is pretty much what we do on the forums.
 
"Interesting" is one way of putting it.

It'll likely be clown shoes though. Tomlin doesn't really want his quarterbacks (including SB winning, HOF-caliber ones) changing plays at the line of scrimmage, ffs. Rodgers ain't gonna abide by that (nor should he, but the fact remains it's what Tomlin greatly prefers and has implemented. That's a separate conversation entirely, regardless of who his QB is).

Tomlin also doesn't like his quarterbacks being that outspoken or providing "bulletin board material" on a weekly basis. Rodgers ain't gonna abide by that either, even if its indirectly, because he'll probably be on McAfee every Tuesday 5 seconds before Mike Tomlin's press conference fires up. Coach T looooved when "the ol' cowboy #7" was doing that locally for a little while. I'm sure it'll be an even more massive hit with Mike for it to be happening on Pat's show instead.

The Steelers don't have a quarterback right now (not a real one, anyway) and it makes sense they are kicking the tires, and that they'd legit have interest here. What doesn't make a ton of sense is how Mikey T, seemingly, is scrubbing his memory of how much he was frustrated on the regular by "end-stage Roeth" and all the stuff that came with it. Having Aaron Rodgers as his QB is going to be almost identical to that, except it'll be more advanced versions of the off field stuff that drove Tomlin nuts with Ben and potentially a lesser version on the field.

We're talking about a guy who is closer to 50 than he is to 30, has almost no lateral mobility anymore, and is more susceptible to injury just due to wear and tear. He's a narcisist which will drive this particular coach nuts (so is Tomlin, of course, but self reflection isn't exactly one of his strong points, sooo...yeah). Even with, basically, no quarterback is the juice even worth the squeeze here? They'd need to get him for, like, 20-25m for it to be worth trying it.
 
"Interesting" is one way of putting it.

It'll likely be clown shoes though. Tomlin doesn't really want his quarterbacks (including SB winning, HOF-caliber ones) changing plays at the line of scrimmage, ffs. Rodgers ain't gonna abide by that (nor should he, but the fact remains it's what Tomlin greatly prefers and has implemented. That's a separate conversation entirely, regardless of who his QB is).

Tomlin also doesn't like his quarterbacks being that outspoken or providing "bulletin board material" on a weekly basis. Rodgers ain't gonna abide by that either, even if its indirectly, because he'll probably be on McAfee every Tuesday 5 seconds before Mike Tomlin's press conference fires up. Coach T looooved when "the ol' cowboy #7" was doing that locally for a little while. I'm sure it'll be an even more massive hit with Mike for it to be happening on Pat's show instead.

The Steelers don't have a quarterback right now (not a real one, anyway) and it makes sense they are kicking the tires, and that they'd legit have interest here. What doesn't make a ton of sense is how Mikey T, seemingly, is scrubbing his memory of how much he was frustrated on the regular by "end-stage Roeth" and all the stuff that came with it. Having Aaron Rodgers as his QB is going to be almost identical to that, except it'll be more advanced versions of the off field stuff that drove Tomlin nuts with Ben and potentially a lesser version on the field.

We're talking about a guy who is closer to 50 than he is to 30, has almost no lateral mobility anymore, and is more susceptible to injury just due to wear and tear. He's a narcisist which will drive this particular coach nuts (so is Tomlin, of course, but self reflection isn't exactly one of his strong points, sooo...yeah). Even with, basically, no quarterback is the juice even worth the squeeze here? They'd need to get him for, like, 20-25m for it to be worth trying it.

Yes, I'd call that interesting.

It's the classic give and take. I'm sure Tomlin (and most coaches) would prefer a smart, young, super talented inexpensive QB that never says anything worthy of a bulletin board. But I don't think CJ Stroud is on the market. The harsh reality of a salary cap league like this is you have to make tough choices. And I'm guessing some of the things you mentioned are what Tomlin and the Steelers are weighing out against what kind of talent is available there. They're not getting Josh Allen or Mahomes or Lamar Jackson. They're in a spot where they have to get what they can. And I think that's super interesting.
 
I also thought the Ringer's ranking was about right. https://nflrankings.theringer.com/qb-rankings
I think he's the best option for the Steelers but you agree with a ranking that has him over QB's like Jayden Daniels, Hurts and Baker? Wow!
I agree that Daniels and Hurts seem way too low, but some ahead of Rodgers are questionable as well (Geno Smith, Lawrence).
I was ok with those being ahead of Rodgers, agreed with it, but those two two you mentioned being ahead of some of those QB's I mentioned was also nuts to me.
 
Don't really care what Garafolo says.

Cool. We'll disagree there but as I do care what someone as connected as Garafolo says.

And I too think they very well may wind up drafting a QB early. Garafolo would say the same I'd expect.
 
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Aaron was not banging on their door and it doesn't sound like Pittsburgh really wants him either
I believe he's been their #1 target since FA opened.
Agreed.

I think the media has successfully gotten people worked up about nothing. Rodgers hasn't made any statements, hasn't done anything to suggest he's got a list of demands or what have you. He's just been quietly weighing his options, while every day there is a new story about him, that is almost certainly pulled from thin air. This visit is the first real thing he's done.

I hate that I have had to defend Aaron Rodgers all of March, but its been wild how he's being treated by the media. You'd think he was on TV lying and contradicting himself every day given what gets said.
Ah, I see you're standing up for Aaron Rodgers! Let me guess, it's because he's single-handedly carried your fantasy football team to glory so many times, you feel like you owe him a statue in your living room. :wink:

:confused:

I don't think anyone thinks they need a statue.

It's talk about a player that might possibly be a starting QB this year. If he is, he'll have some value in fantasy football to some people. Talking about that kind of stuff is pretty much what we do on the forums.
Joe keep in mind I'm just poking fun.

Fair point, Joe. You're just doing your job keeping the forums on track and focused on fantasy football potential. But I have to say, Travdogg has been so dedicated to defending Aaron Rodgers, I’m starting to wonder if he’s secretly on Rodgers’ payroll as his PR manager. If Travdogg starts redirecting questions about Rodgers to ‘his agent’ or declines to comment further for ‘contractual reasons,’ we’ll know the truth!
 
Aaron was not banging on their door and it doesn't sound like Pittsburgh really wants him either
I believe he's been their #1 target since FA opened.
Agreed.

I think the media has successfully gotten people worked up about nothing. Rodgers hasn't made any statements, hasn't done anything to suggest he's got a list of demands or what have you. He's just been quietly weighing his options, while every day there is a new story about him, that is almost certainly pulled from thin air. This visit is the first real thing he's done.

I hate that I have had to defend Aaron Rodgers all of March, but its been wild how he's being treated by the media. You'd think he was on TV lying and contradicting himself every day given what gets said.
Ah, I see you're standing up for Aaron Rodgers! Let me guess, it's because he's single-handedly carried your fantasy football team to glory so many times, you feel like you owe him a statue in your living room. :wink:

:confused:

I don't think anyone thinks they need a statue.

It's talk about a player that might possibly be a starting QB this year. If he is, he'll have some value in fantasy football to some people. Talking about that kind of stuff is pretty much what we do on the forums.
Joe keep in mind I'm just poking fun.

Fair point, Joe. You're just doing your job keeping the forums on track and focused on fantasy football potential. But I have to say, Travdogg has been so dedicated to defending Aaron Rodgers, I’m starting to wonder if he’s secretly on Rodgers’ payroll as his PR manager. If Travdogg starts redirecting questions about Rodgers to ‘his agent’ or declines to comment further for ‘contractual reasons,’ we’ll know the truth!

LOL. No worries. I get it.

In 2025, just suggesting Rodgers could be a starting QB will have people claiming he's on the payroll. At least on our forum. All good.
 
Are people are living in the past or is this just a fantasy football thing? From winning NFL games perspective, I am more interested in where Russel Wilson lands than Aaron Rodgers.
He's 42 years old in December.

All the other stuff about his personality and whatnot, those may or may not be valid criticisms. But the guy is 42 years old in December.
 
It is also possible he was still not back to full strength last year (especially in the beginning of the season) from the injury the previous year. At his age things do not heal as quickly. I thought he played adequately for a dysfunctional franchise the back half of the year. He is not the player he was, but in a decent situation he probably still remains some teams best option at the position. He wears on me as a fan personally, but as mentioned a lot of that can be stoked by the media as well. I think Pittsburgh is the obvious choice. If the they grab Egbuka to play slot he will have a real nice host of targets. If Arthur Smith can find a way to maximize that weaponry is another conversation.
 
But the guy is 42 years old in December.

To be fair though, at the end of the 2025 season, Rodgers, at 42, will be a year and a half younger than Brady when he won his last Super Bowl.

And sure, it's a dangerous game comparing players to Brady. But it's good for perspective.

But you are totally correct in the personality stuff is one thing. But time is definitely undefeated.
 
But the guy is 42 years old in December.

To be fair though, at the end of the 2025 season, Rodgers, at 42, will be a year and a half younger than Brady when he won his last Super Bowl.

And sure, it's a dangerous game comparing players to Brady. But it's good for perspective.

But you are totally correct in the personality stuff is one thing. But time is definitely undefeated.
Brady was an alien.
 
But the guy is 42 years old in December.

To be fair though, at the end of the 2025 season, Rodgers, at 42, will be a year and a half younger than Brady when he won his last Super Bowl.

And sure, it's a dangerous game comparing players to Brady. But it's good for perspective.

But you are totally correct in the personality stuff is one thing. But time is definitely undefeated.
Brady was an alien.
Brees played relatively well at 41 and I might be able to shake the "relatively" part of that if he did not have the arm/shoulder issues.

Now, both of them may be aliens and I feel like they grinded harder during the off-season then Rodgers-who I feel like wandered off with other interests during his free time.

But there is something to be said for him maybe picking it a up notch from his already decent play last year with the extra year removed form his achilles. And I think motivation will be super high with him.

Nothing in my wildest imagination thinks he's returning to MVP form but I think he's got a shot to give league average type performance.
 
But the guy is 42 years old in December.

To be fair though, at the end of the 2025 season, Rodgers, at 42, will be a year and a half younger than Brady when he won his last Super Bowl.

And sure, it's a dangerous game comparing players to Brady. But it's good for perspective.

But you are totally correct in the personality stuff is one thing. But time is definitely undefeated.
Brady was an alien.

You might be right.
 
When you hit the 40+ group at QB, your play can suddenly fall off a cliff at any given time. Rodgers is in that group. Even if he starts off okay, my wager would be his play will visually deteriorate as the season progresses to the point where he falls victim to the curse of playing past his expiry date and eventually embarrasses himself, just like Brees and Favre did.

Brady was a different beast altogther, so I never try to compare any 40+ QB with him.
 
Nothing in my wildest imagination thinks he's returning to MVP form but I think he's got a shot to give league average type performance.

League average performance for league average pay? That's what I'd care about most where I an NFL team, at this stage any way. If he's only going to be expected to supply league average performance, then as a team I'd only be offering him "league average starter" cash.

I'm not saying he has told anyone he is expecting more than that, because I haven't seen any reports with reliable numbers attached that have come from his camp. Just speaking in general. If there is any veracity at all to the "40+ million per" nonsense from a couple weeks ago, I can't believe any team would be talking to him very seriously (I certainly wouldn't be in their place), so I assume he/teams (in this case it appears it's just Pittsburgh now) are talking about 30ish million per, max, which would be pretty much "average salary of all 32 starting quarterbacks in 2025".

I'd wager the Steelers won't want to be guaranteeing much/anything beyond year one and that could be the "primary sticking point to buttoning things up" if all other things are equal, since I expect he's likely seeking a couple years guaranteed.

(ETA: In no way am I intimating I am in favor of the Steelers pursuit of Rodgers at all, let alone at 30 million per season. It just seems like it's in the "this gon' happen, whether 5-ish wants it to or not" phase, and I'd rather see them pay him like the 19th-20th most expensive QB in the league next year rather than the 13th-14th. If I was being honest, I'd prolly still rather they just say "eff it" and bring in Flacco for a dollar fitty and let the chips fall. 😎)
 
How much will Tomlin limit Rodgers's options to check out of a play at the line of scrimmage?
How much attention will Rodgers pay to Tomlin's limits?
Lots of potential for conflict there.
 
But the guy is 42 years old in December.

To be fair though, at the end of the 2025 season, Rodgers, at 42, will be a year and a half younger than Brady when he won his last Super Bowl.

And sure, it's a dangerous game comparing players to Brady. But it's good for perspective.

But you are totally correct in the personality stuff is one thing. But time is definitely undefeated.
Brady was an alien.
And Rodgers, on the other hand, is suuuuuper normal.
 

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