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QB Aaron Rodgers, PIT (12 Viewers)

The personal Rodgers hate from those that don’t know him, but think they do, really is pathetic. People need something to make themselves feel good.
I am guessing that is, at least a little directed towards me. It's fair to a point, I hope I have been clear that from a purely football perspective I think the drama and distraction he brings, heavily counters any on field advantage he can bring on the field today.

The marriage thing is just a small example of how he likes to draw unnecessary attention. Surely his teammates and coaches will now be asked about his marriage. And when that story blows over, and hopefully it will have a short lifespan he will manufacture another story to draw more media commentary.

It is undeniable that he draws this attention and I believe it is entirely intentional. Rodgers is a really smart guy, I strongly believe that, and there is zero chance he doesn't understand how he is a lightning rod. He has curates that persona.

IMO, he absolutely intended to make his marriage a story. If for no other reason than to play puppet master and laugh while reporters scurry to find every last detail about his new spouse.

That's what you get when you bring Rodgers into your franchise. And, I sincerely question whether his skill as a QB warrants that type of distraction.

But, Pittsburgh committed to him early in the process so we get to watch the dance unfold and I love that prospect.
Well said. Completely agree.
 
FTR I think it would be awesome if Pittsburgh wins the Super Bowl this year. I may not like Rodgers the person but I respect the hell out of his on field legacy, even with the warts.

I can't imagine a better NFL story in 2025 than Rodgers taking Pittsburgh to another Lombardi.
Ok, now I’ll use the word “hate” because I would hate that.

Mostly because I root for a different team, who I actually would like to see with the Super Bowl instead.
 
FTR I think it would be awesome if Pittsburgh wins the Super Bowl this year. I may not like Rodgers the person but I respect the hell out of his on field legacy, even with the warts.

I can't imagine a better NFL story in 2025 than Rodgers taking Pittsburgh to another Lombardi.
Ok, now I’ll use the word “hate” because I would hate that.

Mostly because I root for a different team, who I actually would like to see with the Super Bowl instead.
There is nothing I am rooting for more than a Raider Super Bowl win. And, it could happen and I'll fight you if you say it can't!!!

But, from a purely storyline perspective I honestly can't think of a better story in 2025 than Rodgers taking the Steelers all the way.

And, as a Raider fan it's a tough call choosing which team I dislike more; yours or the Steelers. So, I'll side with the good story.
 
BTW Hate is far too strong a word. Far, far too strong.

I respect him and his intelligence but I don't like him as a person and think he has earned being called on his BS. Frankly, I think he enjoys it...no he revels in it.

He's Cartman drinking Scott Tenorman's tears of unfathomable sadness.
 
BTW Hate is far too strong a word. Far, far too strong.

I respect him and his intelligence but I don't like him as a person and think he has earned being called on his BS. Frankly, I think he enjoys it...no he revels in it.

He's Cartman drinking Scott Tenorman's tears of unfathomable sadness.
You're not calling him out on his BS tho. You're complaining about his BS on a message board almost daily. BS which includes him getting married.
 
BTW Hate is far too strong a word. Far, far too strong.

I respect him and his intelligence but I don't like him as a person and think he has earned being called on his BS. Frankly, I think he enjoys it...no he revels in it.

He's Cartman drinking Scott Tenorman's tears of unfathomable sadness.
You're not calling him out on his BS tho. You're complaining about his BS on a message board almost daily. BS which includes him getting married.
I guess that's fair.

Then again, I'm not the one who made his marriage a story during his first press conference with his new team. Lots of players get married, y'know.
 
BTW Hate is far too strong a word. Far, far too strong.

I respect him and his intelligence but I don't like him as a person and think he has earned being called on his BS. Frankly, I think he enjoys it...no he revels in it.

He's Cartman drinking Scott Tenorman's tears of unfathomable sadness.
You're not calling him out on his BS tho. You're complaining about his BS on a message board almost daily. BS which includes him getting married.
I guess that's fair.

Then again, I'm not the one who made his marriage a story during his first press conference with his new team. Lots of players get married, y'know.
To be fair he's been wearing a ring before the press conference and he brought it up or was he asked?

Borderline top 5 all time qb, certainly top 10, in the twilight of his career should have plenty of on the field story lines. Getting married isn't one of them. Maybe there should be two threads. One for Aaron Rodgers the enigma and one for Aaron Rodgers the football player.
 
BTW Hate is far too strong a word. Far, far too strong.

I respect him and his intelligence but I don't like him as a person and think he has earned being called on his BS. Frankly, I think he enjoys it...no he revels in it.

He's Cartman drinking Scott Tenorman's tears of unfathomable sadness.
You're not calling him out on his BS tho. You're complaining about his BS on a message board almost daily. BS which includes him getting married.
I guess that's fair.

Then again, I'm not the one who made his marriage a story during his first press conference with his new team. Lots of players get married, y'know.
To be fair he's been wearing a ring before the press conference and he brought it up or was he asked?

Borderline top 5 all time qb, certainly top 10, in the twilight of his career should have plenty of on the field story lines. Getting married isn't one of them. Maybe there should be two threads. One for Aaron Rodgers the enigma and one for Aaron Rodgers the football player.
The "enigma" thread won't get to two pages before it's shut down, because you know where it will go.
 
I'm guessing Myles Garrett wants every QB in the graveyard. Especially Steeler QBs. Considering how close he almost put Mason Rudolph actually there with the helmet, it's interesting.
Garrett as QB Grim Reaper
Reportedly Rudolph deserved it, but I guess there’s always 2 sides to every story, eh?
:shrug:

eta: that costume’s hilarious. I’d never seen that one. lol
Sorry but this situation always did and always will burn me. There are no two sides. There's basically all the players on the field who said they never heard him say anything, and all the players on Rudolph's team (most of them black) who went on to say he would never say something like that, not to mention all the mics on the field and referees and on players that were reviewed by league officials and found nothing, all the camera angles which were reviewed by league officials and a bunch of jobless people online who'd love nothing more than to get a cookie for discovering some mouthed racism..... and then there is Garrett who literally committed criminal assault on the football field and pulled out the one card he thought could get him sympathy. His own teammates not only said they didn't hear anything at the time, but also that they didn't even know it supposedly happened till asked about it by interviewers days later. You know, after that scumbag Garrett came up with it as some kind of poor excuse for his criminal behavior to shirk responsibility while he sat in interviews with a smug grin on his face. Even bringing it up does a disservice to people who actually are victims of racism. He's basically Jussie Smollett. It's disgusting.
Apologies for the trigger - didn’t realize people were still this fired up about it.

I didn’t actually see any of the follow up you’re referring to, but I’ll take your word on it.
Ah sorry back for coming with a fast ball high and tight in reply. I know what you actually meant and at face value neither side can be proven true/untrue. I just think all the supporting info heavily leans one way, and was always mad Garrett basically excused and deflected his own behavior through the entire thing. The fact he said he didn't even want his accusation to come out, but then did an interview with Mina Kimes just a few days after reinstatement not only doubling down and making it again, but then insinuated the league was "hiding the audio proof" it happened... so frustrating. Literally could have changed Rudolph's entire life if that helmet contact were made a few inches left or right and was incredibly lucky he didn't, but by repeatedly making a baseless accusation like that just put his life in jeopardy in an entirely different way.

And while it wouldn't apply to Garrett because no one can prove he was lying, I do think there should be much more severe punishments for people who are proven to make false accusations about such defaming things; ie Smollett or Lindsey Hill and Trevor Bauer. It used to be almost laughable how accusations like racist, pedo, rapist were so overused they almost lost their meaning entirely. But the fact someone could lose their career, family, freedom bc the court of public opinion frivolously weaponizes those words with 0 proof... I think prison sentences will help curb that behavior and bring some gravity back to the real meaning of those words.
 
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Also, I'll officially again take the stand as a Steelers fan I wish we didn't sign Rodgers despite also believing he does give us a better chance at success this season. I still don't think it puts us on the level of the top teams in the league and/or makes us a SB contender. But now I can't enjoy the free flow of Steelers information this season without having my guard up; instead have to be cautious about what I click as probably half of the information will read more like a gossip column than sporting news and just get me all riled up.

For better or worse, I tend to try to position myself as a balancing force in debates, which is why in the past I've leaned towards defending Rodgers as it seems that's the side which needs a few more people for fairness/equity most of the time. But I don't enjoy it, and don't really love Rodgers as a person at face value. He just isn't that likable IMO. Just think (most) everyone deserves a fair/impartial shake.
 
But now I can't enjoy the free flow of Steelers information this season without having my guard up; instead have to be cautious about what I click as probably half of the information will read more like a gossip column than sporting news and just get me all riled up.

I get it. Unfortunately we're in a spot where it's nearly impossible for some to separate the gossip from actual football.

Yesterday was a great example. We've reached a point for some fans where an ESPN reporter asking him about a ring is somewhow Rodger's making "his marriage a story during his first press conference with his new team". That's just how it's going to be with some on the forum. I don't see that changing much. But hopefully we'll be able to focus on football. Whether or not he'll be able to have success this year is something I find super interesting. I can see it going either way.
 
FTR I think it would be awesome if Pittsburgh wins the Super Bowl this year. I may not like Rodgers the person but I respect the hell out of his on field legacy, even with the warts.

I can't imagine a better NFL story in 2025 than Rodgers taking Pittsburgh to another Lombardi.
Hmmm how about by the any given Sunday law, Steelers win the AFC North with an 8-9 record.
They get to host a play-off game, or two.
Steelers hoist the Lombardi and Aaron gets another SB MVP.
 
But now I can't enjoy the free flow of Steelers information this season without having my guard up; instead have to be cautious about what I click as probably half of the information will read more like a gossip column than sporting news and just get me all riled up.

I get it. Unfortunately we're in a spot where it's nearly impossible for some to separate the gossip from actual football.

Yesterday was a great example. We've reached a point for some fans where an ESPN reporter asking him about a ring is somewhow Rodger's making "his marriage a story during his first press conference with his new team". That's just how it's going to be with some on the forum. I don't see that changing much. But hopefully we'll be able to focus on football. Whether or not he'll be able to have success this year is something I find super interesting. I can see it going either way.
It would be an awesome story if Rodgers has a great year. I wish him and the Steelers the best.
 
But now I can't enjoy the free flow of Steelers information this season without having my guard up; instead have to be cautious about what I click as probably half of the information will read more like a gossip column than sporting news and just get me all riled up.

I get it. Unfortunately we're in a spot where it's nearly impossible for some to separate the gossip from actual football.

Yesterday was a great example. We've reached a point for some fans where an ESPN reporter asking him about a ring is somewhow Rodger's making "his marriage a story during his first press conference with his new team". That's just how it's going to be with some on the forum. I don't see that changing much. But hopefully we'll be able to focus on football. Whether or not he'll be able to have success this year is something I find super interesting. I can see it going either way.
Sorry if it came off that way, but I definitely didn't mean this forum as a main culprit of the "gossip column" thing. If anything, I expect a little bit of that stuff here because it's just a bunch of people discussing their opinions on stuff 24/7. I'd say getting lost in the weeds sometimes is par for the course for any public forum haha. It was more targeted at actual sporting news/reports sites/shows/pods where I'd like to get a little more substance and a little less opinion.
 
The personal Rodgers hate from those that don’t know him, but think they do, really is odd to me. People need something to make themselves feel good I suppose.
Hate is a strong word.

I want to like A-aron. I like and respect smart people. And he is clearly intelligent.

I gravitate towards people with iconoclastic personalities, people who challenge the status quo. Rodgers definitely fits that mold.

I’m interested in anything to do with expanding consciousness and anyone who has done ayahuasca ceremonies has my attention.

But, every time he opens his mouth, I just get the impression he is an unmitigated narcissistic doosh. I don’t hate him- I barely think of him, outside of checking in here during the off season and seeing numerous threads about him on the 1st page.

But, I wouldn’t wanna drink a beer with him. And I don’t want him anywhere near my team, because he seems to have a cancerous impact wherever he goes.

Throw in diminishing skills, old age and injuries: I feel like PIT is cruising towards a PR implosion this year.

Hate? Nah. He is like liver to me: I find it personally very distatseful. And when people are discussing liver, I will vociferously voice my opinion that liver is gross. I get that some people like it, but people like a lot of weird stuff.
 
The personal Rodgers hate from those that don’t know him, but think they do, really is odd to me. People need something to make themselves feel good I suppose.
Hate is a strong word.

I want to like A-aron. I like and respect smart people. And he is clearly intelligent.

I gravitate towards people with iconoclastic personalities, people who challenge the status quo. Rodgers definitely fits that mold.

I’m interested in anything to do with expanding consciousness and anyone who has done ayahuasca ceremonies has my attention.

But, every time he opens his mouth, I just get the impression he is an unmitigated narcissistic doosh. I don’t hate him- I barely think of him, outside of checking in here during the off season and seeing numerous threads about him on the 1st page.

But, I wouldn’t wanna drink a beer with him. And I don’t want him anywhere near my team, because he seems to have a cancerous impact wherever he goes.

Throw in diminishing skills, old age and injuries: I feel like PIT is cruising towards a PR implosion this year.

Hate? Nah. He is like liver to me: I find it personally very distatseful. And when people are discussing liver, I will vociferously voice my opinion that liver is gross. I get that some people like it, but people like a lot of weird stuff.
Okay, now I'm officially triggered!!!

Chicken liver pate? Mmmmm...good
Foie gras? Nom nom nom :shark:
Calf liver steak? :homer:
 
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Hate? Nah. He is like liver to me: I find it personally very distatseful.
I'm good with your post, but just wanted to point out that if we're using the definition of hate that the world likes to use these days, "finding something personally distasteful" is on or maybe beyond the level of "hating something". Replace "Aaron Rodgers" with ... well, other things, and in your quote here it becomes preposterous to argue that the latter doesn't imply the former. So it somewhat depends on what definition of hate each person is using.
 
This isn't directed at any one here but Rodgers just can't win with alot of people. X was full of people calling Rodgers an attention whore yesterday because he's married. Which is strange because an attention whore would've leaked the wedding info before the wedding. As far as wearing his ring goes maybe it's a ploy for him to get people talking or maybe he's just showing it as a sign of love and respect to his wife, like normal people too. And if it is a ploy seems like a good time to do it because it would've been discovered eventually. Imagine the heat Rodgers would get if if this story came out say week 5 of the NFL before a big game with the Ravens. Steelers lose and suddenly it's a major story because Rodgers was distracted by all the marriage talk.

I get it he's a troll and says things to purposely get people fired up but it's crazy to me how hated he is.
 
This isn't directed at any one here but Rodgers just can't win with alot of people. X was full of people calling Rodgers an attention whore yesterday because he's married. Which is strange because an attention whore would've leaked the wedding info before the wedding. As far as wearing his ring goes maybe it's a ploy for him to get people talking or maybe he's just showing it as a sign of love and respect to his wife, like normal people too. And if it is a ploy seems like a good time to do it because it would've been discovered eventually. Imagine the heat Rodgers would get if if this story came out say week 5 of the NFL before a big game with the Ravens. Steelers lose and suddenly it's a major story because Rodgers was distracted by all the marriage talk.

I get it he's a troll and says things to purposely get people fired up but it's crazy to me how hated he is.
Yeah, I don't want to go any further overboard about his marriage than I did yesterday. To be clear, personally I don't see him getting married as a story at all. It's a big nothing burger, really. What I don't like is his apparent unwillingness to even say who he is married to. We know it's someone named Brittani (that spelling is triggering) from a mention of it on McAfee.

IMO he just doesn't approach stuff like this as a normal person would.

Reporter: "I see you're wearing a wedding ring, congratulations. Do you mind telling us who she is?"

Answer 1:
Normal person: "Sure. Her name is Jenny. She's from Wisconsin, Go Badgers, and is a marketing representative for Oshkosh B'Gosh."

Answer 2:
Aaron Rodgers: "Mmmmmmm...no."
 
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To be very clear; I don't give a darn about his marriage. My problem is 100% related to football. I think, at this point in his career, he is a distraction 24/7/365. And I think it is 100% intentional and, again IMO, is far more focused on creating his post football brand than anything that happens inside the lines.

He's a very smart dude and, once again IMO, fully recognizes that he will never generate as much attention as he can now, after he leaves the NFL. And, did I mention this was entirely IMO, he is taking advantage of that fact, regardless of how it may impact his team.
 
The Onion is up-to-date with their Aaron Rodgers reporting.


For those not aware, The Onion is a satire site.
 
The idea that Aaron Rodgers is "hated" is exaggerated. While he's polarizing due to his outspoken views and controversies, disliked is more accurate. Some find him arrogant or difficult to work with, but many respect his talent and leadership. His COVID-19 stance and conspiracy comments fueled criticism, but he remains one of the most respected quarterbacks in NFL history. Strong opinions surround him both positive and negative but "hated" is a stretch.
 
Hate is a strong word.

I want to like A-aron. I like and respect smart people. And he is clearly intelligent.

I gravitate towards people with iconoclastic personalities, people who challenge the status quo. Rodgers definitely fits that mold.

I’m interested in anything to do with expanding consciousness and anyone who has done ayahuasca ceremonies has my attention.

But, every time he opens his mouth, I just get the impression he is an unmitigated narcissistic doosh. I don’t hate him- I barely think of him, outside of checking in here during the off season and seeing numerous threads about him on the 1st page.

But, I wouldn’t wanna drink a beer with him. And I don’t want him anywhere near my team, because he seems to have a cancerous impact wherever he goes.

Throw in diminishing skills, old age and injuries: I feel like PIT is cruising towards a PR implosion this year.

Hate? Nah. He is like liver to me: I find it personally very distatseful. And when people are discussing liver, I will vociferously voice my opinion that liver is gross. I get that some people like it, but people like a lot of weird stuff.
Pretty much where I am at. It's funny, I am wondering why people disliking Rodgers is a big deal.

LOTS of players are disliked, for not great reasons. I really disliked TO. Some hated Deion when he played, and it was mainly because they didn't like how he flaunted his talent. People disliked Cam Newton, the person, for wearing hats, as far as I can tell. I will never like Tyreek, cause I don't like guys who choke their pregnant girlfriend. I dislike Elway, because he was overrated, and his teeth.

There are fans who dislike showboats as a rule, and that's a totally valid attitude. No one will spend days on a message board arguing that that sort of fan is irrational.
 
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profo...s-aaron-rodgers-to-the-rams-was-a-possibility
The Steelers reportedly wanted Matthew Stafford over Aaron Rodgers. So, too, did the Rams.

The Rams ended up keeping Stafford, and when the Steelers didn’t get Stafford or Justin Fields, they signed Rodgers. Coach Sean McVay, though, confirmed a report from earlier this offseason that the Rams would have gone after Rodgers had they traded Stafford.
That “had” in the last sentence is doing a lot of heavy lifting since they did not trade Stafford.
 
I thought this was interesting: https://ftnfantasy.com/nfl/passing-plus-minus-2024-aaron-rodgers-bad-year

In terms of "how many fewer completions did a quarterback make than an average passer in the same situations" Rodgers had one of the worst seasons in the last 20 years.

Unrelated, I just looked at the Steelers' roster and they really stocked up on WRs you forgot have SB rings: Robert Woods, Ben Skowronek and Scotty Miller!
 
I thought this was interesting: https://ftnfantasy.com/nfl/passing-plus-minus-2024-aaron-rodgers-bad-year

In terms of "how many fewer completions did a quarterback make than an average passer in the same situations" Rodgers had one of the worst seasons in the last 20 years.

Unrelated, I just looked at the Steelers' roster and they really stocked up on WRs you forgot have SB rings: Robert Woods, Ben Skowronek and Scotty Miller!
Recent reports had the Steelers WR coach stating that Calvin Austin III is their WR2.

What that means in a low volume Steelers passing offense is anyone’s guess, but it seems like the ghosts of Robert Woods, Scotty Miller, and the great Ben Skowronek will be competing for scraps along with Roman Wilson.

Although the current depth chart has Bobby Trees as a starting outside receiver opposite DKM.

I’m avoiding that entire offense in redraft if I can help it. Might take a shot at Warren or Johnson if they fall far enough.
 
I am interested if this is gonna work. He may have good stats, PIT might do well, but in the end I don't think he gets them to the finish line. And I'm fine if he proves me wrong. But when you sign up any star veteran for a year, making the playoffs is a nice accomplishment. Yet it is certainly not the goal. He might be a good guy. He might be smart. He might still have the arm. But there are always sideshows, many not of his own making. Guess we will see how it works out.
 
As a Packers fan for over 30 years, Rodgers was my favorite player in the NFL for quite a few years. Once he turned out to be dishonest, about things he didn't even have to talk about, he lost my respect as a person, and I moved on to a new favorite player (Josh Allen). I continued to support Rodgers since he was QB1 for my favorite team, but that's it. I was banging the drum for the Pack to trade him after his 2020 MVP season to maximize his value. I could see the upcoming mess as I kept getting Favre vibes. I had to eat some crow with fellow fans when he got MVP again in 2021, but I ended up being right about failing to maximize his trade value. Funny enough, the Pack still ended up with the better end of the trade! hehe

I don't care about his stances on any of the issues. Either man up and admit what they are up front, or keep them to yourself. Don't be dishonest.
 

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