QB Anthony Richardson, IND (1 Viewer)

[Hot Sauce Guy]

One big thing I noticed relative to not facing first team defenses is I think there were a couple of throws that were in a bit of no-mans territory that very well could translate to turnovers against better defenses.

2 for certain.

There were also 2 nice touch passes where he hit the receiver in tight windows but were dropped.

That knife cuts both ways.

Personally I was encouraged by what I saw. From the naysayers constant stream of negativity on here he should have looked nowhere near that poised.

I came away impressed in that he looked collected, poised and didn’t have happy feet.

 

[humpback]

Irrelevant, all that matters for fantasy is how he does in the NFL, and this wasn't a good test because it wasn't an NFL caliber defense.

These were mostly practice squad or out of the league guys, not 3rd stringers.

Very little about preseason games reflects what is going to happen after Labor Day. Teams don't scheme opponents, they test concepts that they are considering for when the games are real, there is a mix of scrubs and starters all over the place, everyone is knocking the rust off. Everything that happens needs to be viewed with that disclaimer in mind.

The bottom line is all you can do is play the people in front of you. Richardson did okay in some areas but clearly needs a lot of work in others.

One big thing I noticed relative to not facing first team defenses is I think there were a couple of throws that were in a bit of no-mans territory that very well could translate to turnovers against better defenses.

Of course. In this specific case, it was all of the starters vs. none of the starters and almost all "scrubs".

I agree that they can only play the people in front of you, but I think the context of who's in front of you matters some. Getting away from Ben VanSumeren is probably a bit easier than getting away from Josh Allen in week 1. I also agree that he did okay in some areas and needs a lot of work in others, I've said as much.

Sounds like we're pretty much on the same page.

 

[Todem]

Gotta love the self-quote based upon a preseason quarter and a half of action.

I've bumped it a couple times actually.
6 of 17 against grocery baggers and you don't think that's any reason for people to be concerned?
It runs along with his completion % in college so i guess it doesn't matter.
How long can a QB in the NFL survive with a 50% or less completion rate?

I don't know how folks are drafting Pittman with this kind of look from the starting QB.

Ask Josh Allen MOP.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Gotta love the self-quote based upon a preseason quarter and a half of action.

I've bumped it a couple times actually.
6 of 17 against grocery baggers and you don't think that's any reason for people to be concerned?
It runs along with his completion % in college so i guess it doesn't matter.
How long can a QB in the NFL survive with a 50% or less completion rate?

I don't know how folks are drafting Pittman with this kind of look from the starting QB.

Ask Josh Allen MOP.

It’s a fair question, but it’s a little bit of an odd one to ask before the man has played a single NFL game.

I could see asking this after year 2, if no improvement is shown.

But at least let’s see 1 season out of him running a full playbook - heck, at least wait until 1 game before burying the dude.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Gotta love the self-quote based upon a preseason quarter and a half of action.

I've bumped it a couple times actually.
6 of 17 against grocery baggers and you don't think that's any reason for people to be concerned?
It runs along with his completion % in college so i guess it doesn't matter.
How long can a QB in the NFL survive with a 50% or less completion rate?

I don't know how folks are drafting Pittman with this kind of look from the starting QB.

Ask Josh Allen MOP.

62.5% career rate
I know what you're looking at
56% in college, still a lot better than ARich and I would have to look but I doubt Allen went 6 of 17 preseason

That said, 52% Allen's 1st year, point taken my friend.

 

[massraider]

People still applying the 'rules' from 1993.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

People still applying the 'rules' from 1993.

Could you expand on that, please?
What '93 rules are being applied?
We're talking Dallas Cowboys era here, what are you talking about?

 

[Snotbubbles]

B-U-S-T!

I'll have a QB thread before Week 1 and I haven't posted once in this thread
It's felt like the Emperor's New Clothes for a while.
The talking heads must have a certain allotment of QBs for the TV and ratings and to fill the heads of fans for these teams that their dream of a franchise QB is just around the corner.
So many things wrong with how we arrived at this point and the Colts taking him at #4 overall, its hard to know where to start.

i'm not going to get into a tug of war with anyone, keep chirping and posting all the good vibes, biased reports, rose colored glasses, just keep posting your hopes and dreams because there isn't anything factual you have to lean on. No trophies, no SEC Championships, no College Playoffs so he didn't compete and win at the highest level but he's going to walk into Indianapolis and all systems are Go!?
Oh My Holy God have folks been sold a bad bill of good here.

You had to want to love this player or seek out all the good reports on him because a lot of average fans had no clue who he was after college football was over.
So most have never watched the guy play but have bought into the Mel Kiper's of the world who use jigsaw puzzle drafting to fill needs and desires of fans to play on emotions
I doubt most NFL scouts listen or read much of any of the NFL talking heads on TV or so called draft experts.

Good Luck!

6 out of 17 last night, pathetic.

Minshew however was 9 of 11/100/TD

MOP, I couldn't agree more with you about Richardson. For fantasy purposes, he's startable due to his running, but I don't see him as a long-term option as a real world NFL quarterback because he's not even close to being a viable passer in the NFL and I'm not sure he'll ever be one. How many 3-5 win seasons will the Colts give Steichen/Richardson before they move on?

 

[Ilov80s]

I’m not totally sold but how many times are we going to see people write off these QBs like Hurts, Allen, Lamar, etc after a handful of games? He’s going to get better guys, relax.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I’m not totally sold but how many times are we going to see people write off these QBs like Hurts, Allen, Lamar, etc after a handful of games? He’s going to get better guys, relax.

The obituaries people are writing - good grief. It’s week 3 of the preseason.

I don’t profess to know if ARich is capable of improving as a passer, and I’m not sure anyone knows. Making confident proclamations of that seems woefully premature.

Everything I’ve seen and read is that he’s a sharp young man. Let’s maybe let it breathe for a few games before shoveling dirt on his career.

 

[massraider]

I’m not totally sold but how many times are we going to see people write off these QBs like Hurts, Allen, Lamar, etc after a handful of games? He’s going to get better guys, relax.

Until we get back to the good old days when QBs were statues.

 

[Ilov80s]

I’m not totally sold but how many times are we going to see people write off these QBs like Hurts, Allen, Lamar, etc after a handful of games? He’s going to get better guys, relax.

The obituaries people are writing - good grief. It’s week 3 of the preseason.

I don’t profess to know if ARich is capable of improving as a passer, and I’m not sure anyone knows. Making confident proclamations of that seems woefully premature.

Everything I’ve seen and read is that he’s a sharp young man. Let’s maybe let it breathe for a few games before shoveling dirt on his career.

Yeah, I don't have the faith in him that I did Lamar and Hurts because of the college profile but ARich has the skills. I am going to bet on him.

 

[Ilov80s]

I’m not totally sold but how many times are we going to see people write off these QBs like Hurts, Allen, Lamar, etc after a handful of games? He’s going to get better guys, relax.

Until we get back to the good old days when QBs were statues.

Better call Doc Brown if you want that

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I have to say, the bar is already being lowered
Looks like completion % is going to be a non factor in evaluating this Quarterback, that's quite a shift.
When it's mentioned, there's a pushback and there is even some hints of ARich may never be a high completion QB
That does not sound like a long term answer for the Colts.

I do want to clarify that I am especially biased towards Quarterbacks that can't throw.
The same way I am biased against Wide Receivers that have a hard time catching the football.

 

[King of the Jungle]

I do want to clarify that I am especially biased towards Quarterbacks that can't throw.
The same way I am biased against Wide Receivers that have a hard time catching the football.

I agree with the above. The thing we don’t know is the ability to develop and progress. I was convinced Jalen Hurts was not an NFL QB, and my amateur rear was wrong. AR is super intriguing based on his physical abilities. How will he develop? Upside is chart topping, downside (based on what I can see of the kid’s attitude) is not rock bottom IMO (Tebow, Jamarcus, Lance (?))…

 

[humpback]

Gotta love the self-quote based upon a preseason quarter and a half of action.

I've bumped it a couple times actually.
6 of 17 against grocery baggers and you don't think that's any reason for people to be concerned?
It runs along with his completion % in college so i guess it doesn't matter.
How long can a QB in the NFL survive with a 50% or less completion rate?

I don't know how folks are drafting Pittman with this kind of look from the starting QB.

I don't think it's a reason to be very concerned, no. It's the pre-season and we all know he's very raw and a work in progress- a sub 50% completion rate today doesn't mean he's going to stay there forever.

However, I certainly don't think it's a reason to talk about how awesome he's going to be, which is what got this thread bumped in the first place.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I have to say, the bar is already being lowered
Looks like completion % is going to be a non factor in evaluating this Quarterback, that's quite a shift.
When it's mentioned, there's a pushback and there is even some hints of ARich may never be a high completion QB
That does not sound like a long term answer for the Colts.

This is a strawman.

No one here has suggested that for real life quarterbacking completion % is irrelevant.

Cmon.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Irrelevant, all that matters for fantasy is how he does in the NFL, and this wasn't a good test because it wasn't an NFL caliber defense.

It was the best defense he’s ever faced so far so we’re getting closer at least.

 

[JohnnyU]

Gotta love the self-quote based upon a preseason quarter and a half of action.

I've bumped it a couple times actually.
6 of 17 against grocery baggers and you don't think that's any reason for people to be concerned?
It runs along with his completion % in college so i guess it doesn't matter.
How long can a QB in the NFL survive with a 50% or less completion rate?

I don't know how folks are drafting Pittman with this kind of look from the starting QB.

I don't think it's a reason to be very concerned, no. It's the pre-season and we all know he's very raw and a work in progress- a sub 50% completion rate today doesn't mean he's going to stay there forever.

However, I certainly don't think it's a reason to talk about how awesome he's going to be, which is what got this thread bumped in the first place.

I don't care what string defense he faces, all I want to see is progress every week.

 

[ghostguy123]

He looks awful.
However, I certainly see the potential.
He's going to have some truly horrendous games this year though.

 

[JohnnyU]

He looks awful.
However, I certainly see the potential.
He's going to have some truly horrendous games this year though.

Peyton Manning led the league in interceptions his rookie year

 

[nysfl2]

I watched the videos of all his passes and rated it as about 7 good passes and 7 bad passes, with the rest being indeterminate because he was under heavy pressure or just hit a wide open dump off. One was really impressive where he had two guys trying to take him down and he got off a loop pass to pick up a first down (though that could have been really dangerous against a better defense).

He clearly needs to improve that ratio to be considered an adequate NFL QB, but anyone saying he's hopeless is greatly overreacting.

 

[JohnnyU]

I watched the videos of all his passes and rated it as about 7 good passes and 7 bad passes, with the rest being indeterminate because he was under heavy pressure or just hit a wide open dump off. One was really impressive where he had two guys trying to take him down and he got off a loop pass to pick up a first down (though that could have been really dangerous against a better defense).

He clearly needs to improve that ratio to be considered an adequate NFL QB, but anyone saying he's hopeless is greatly overreacting.

Justin Fields didn't exactly set the woods on fire his rookie year.

Career stats

Career stats

Year Year	Team Team	CMP% Completions percentage	YDS Passing yards	TD Passing touchdowns	INT Interceptions thrown	Rating Passer rating
2022	Bears	60.4	2,242	17	11	85.2
2021	Bears	58.9	1,870	7	10	73.2
Career		59.7	4,112	24	21	79.7

 

[humpback]

It was the best defense he’s ever faced so far so we’re getting closer at least.

But it wasn't, the defense he faced in his first game was significantly better.

I don't care what string defense he faces, all I want to see is progress every week.

That's fine, but do you not even consider context at all when trying to judge progress? For example, the INT he threw in week 1 was against one of the best defenses in the NFL. If he had thrown that same pass this week (and he certainly threw a few similar ones), it very well may not have been picked off. Likewise some of his bad throws this week that weren't picked off may have been in week 1.

Personally I think he was better in his first game, especially when you consider all of the circumstances- his first ever NFL action against one of the best defenses in the league (to start at least). I think those are much more difficult circumstances than your 2nd start against the "C" team defense. But it's just the pre-season and I don't think it's realistic to expect progress every single week anyway. There will be plenty of ups and downs this year.

In any event, not a big deal and not trying to change your mind, just a bit surprised it's not even a consideration. Especially for people who play FF, who do factor opponents into their decision making quite often.

 

[Weebs210]

It was the best defense he’s ever faced so far so we’re getting closer at least.

But it wasn't, the defense he faced in his first game was significantly better.

I don't care what string defense he faces, all I want to see is progress every week.

That's fine, but do you not even consider context at all when trying to judge progress? For example, the INT he threw in week 1 was against one of the best defenses in the NFL. If he had thrown that same pass this week (and he certainly threw a few similar ones), it very well may not have been picked off. Likewise some of his bad throws this week that weren't picked off may have been in week 1.

Personally I think he was better in his first game, especially when you consider all of the circumstances- his first ever NFL action against one of the best defenses in the league (to start at least). I think those are much more difficult circumstances than your 2nd start against the "C" team defense. But it's just the pre-season and I don't think it's realistic to expect progress every single week anyway. There will be plenty of ups and downs this year.

In any event, not a big deal and not trying to change your mind, just a bit surprised it's not even a consideration. Especially for people who play FF, who do factor opponents into their decision making quite often.

He also threw an absolute dime the first week which should have been a TD if Pierce could catch.

 

[JohnnyU]

It was the best defense he’s ever faced so far so we’re getting closer at least.

But it wasn't, the defense he faced in his first game was significantly better.

I don't care what string defense he faces, all I want to see is progress every week.

That's fine, but do you not even consider context at all when trying to judge progress? For example, the INT he threw in week 1 was against one of the best defenses in the NFL. If he had thrown that same pass this week (and he certainly threw a few similar ones), it very well may not have been picked off. Likewise some of his bad throws this week that weren't picked off may have been in week 1.

Personally I think he was better in his first game, especially when you consider all of the circumstances- his first ever NFL action against one of the best defenses in the league (to start at least). I think those are much more difficult circumstances than your 2nd start against the "C" team defense. But it's just the pre-season and I don't think it's realistic to expect progress every single week anyway. There will be plenty of ups and downs this year.

In any event, not a big deal and not trying to change your mind, just a bit surprised it's not even a consideration. Especially for people who play FF, who do factor opponents into their decision making quite often.

I'll take any progress and yes, I'm considering the context of who he played against. I'm not making a absolute judgement of Richardson after that game. What I am looking at from a fantasy perspective is how well his pocket awareness seemed to be. I believe he will escape a lot of pressure this year and gain lots of yards rushing. As for the other aspects of his game I cringed, because I noticed right away he is horrible with his accuracy and I think a lot of it as to do with throwing his fastball when he should be throwing his change up. I hope the HC can fix that. Yes, he's in for a long season with regards to the art of quarterbacking, but as the season progresses I hope to see progress. Next year I hope he can at least be as good as Justin Fields, who has his own warts throwing the ball.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

but anyone saying he's hopeless is greatly overreacting.

This

 

[Snotbubbles]

I watched the videos of all his passes and rated it as about 7 good passes and 7 bad passes, with the rest being indeterminate because he was under heavy pressure or just hit a wide open dump off. One was really impressive where he had two guys trying to take him down and he got off a loop pass to pick up a first down (though that could have been really dangerous against a better defense).

He clearly needs to improve that ratio to be considered an adequate NFL QB, but anyone saying he's hopeless is greatly overreacting.

Justin Fields didn't exactly set the woods on fire his rookie year.

Career stats

Career stats

Year Year	Team Team	CMP% Completions percentage	YDS Passing yards	TD Passing touchdowns	INT Interceptions thrown	Rating Passer rating
2022	Bears	60.4	2,242	17	11	85.2
2021	Bears	58.9	1,870	7	10	73.2
Career		59.7	4,112	24	21	79.7

And the scary thing is that Justin Fields was light-years better as a passer in college than Richardson.

I wonder how may more 3-5 win seasons, where the Bears are 32nd in the league in pass attempts does the Bears FO give him before they move on? At some point you have to be able to win games.

 

[nysfl2]

I watched the videos of all his passes and rated it as about 7 good passes and 7 bad passes, with the rest being indeterminate because he was under heavy pressure or just hit a wide open dump off. One was really impressive where he had two guys trying to take him down and he got off a loop pass to pick up a first down (though that could have been really dangerous against a better defense).

He clearly needs to improve that ratio to be considered an adequate NFL QB, but anyone saying he's hopeless is greatly overreacting.

Justin Fields didn't exactly set the woods on fire his rookie year.

Career stats

Career stats

Year Year	Team Team	CMP% Completions percentage	YDS Passing yards	TD Passing touchdowns	INT Interceptions thrown	Rating Passer rating
2022	Bears	60.4	2,242	17	11	85.2
2021	Bears	58.9	1,870	7	10	73.2
Career		59.7	4,112	24	21	79.7

And the scary thing is that Justin Fields was light-years better as a passer in college than Richardson.

I wonder how may more 3-5 win seasons, where the Bears are 32nd in the league in pass attempts does the Bears FO give him before they move on? At some point you have to be able to win games.

Tough to compare directly - Justin Fields was blessed with one of the greatest wr rooms in the history of college football

 

[Chaka]

I wonder how may more 3-5 win seasons, where the Bears are 32nd in the league in pass attempts does the Bears FO give him before they move on? At some point you have to be able to win games.

It probably depends on the number of times the Bears have the #32 scoring defense in the league.

 

[Snotbubbles]

I watched the videos of all his passes and rated it as about 7 good passes and 7 bad passes, with the rest being indeterminate because he was under heavy pressure or just hit a wide open dump off. One was really impressive where he had two guys trying to take him down and he got off a loop pass to pick up a first down (though that could have been really dangerous against a better defense).

He clearly needs to improve that ratio to be considered an adequate NFL QB, but anyone saying he's hopeless is greatly overreacting.

Justin Fields didn't exactly set the woods on fire his rookie year.

Career stats

Career stats

Year Year	Team Team	CMP% Completions percentage	YDS Passing yards	TD Passing touchdowns	INT Interceptions thrown	Rating Passer rating
2022	Bears	60.4	2,242	17	11	85.2
2021	Bears	58.9	1,870	7	10	73.2
Career		59.7	4,112	24	21	79.7

And the scary thing is that Justin Fields was light-years better as a passer in college than Richardson.

I wonder how may more 3-5 win seasons, where the Bears are 32nd in the league in pass attempts does the Bears FO give him before they move on? At some point you have to be able to win games.

Tough to compare directly - Justin Fields was blessed with one of the greatest wr rooms in the history of college football

His small sample size at Georgia was just as good.

 

[Snotbubbles]

I wonder how may more 3-5 win seasons, where the Bears are 32nd in the league in pass attempts does the Bears FO give him before they move on? At some point you have to be able to win games.

It probably depends on the number of times the Bears have the #32 scoring defense in the league.

So you're position is they'll stay with Fields in perpetuity as long as their defense is bad?

 

[humpback]

He also threw an absolute dime the first week which should have been a TD if Pierce could catch.

Yep, one of the reasons why I think he was better in week 1.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I watched the videos of all his passes and rated it as about 7 good passes and 7 bad passes, with the rest being indeterminate because he was under heavy pressure or just hit a wide open dump off. One was really impressive where he had two guys trying to take him down and he got off a loop pass to pick up a first down (though that could have been really dangerous against a better defense).

He clearly needs to improve that ratio to be considered an adequate NFL QB, but anyone saying he's hopeless is greatly overreacting.

Justin Fields didn't exactly set the woods on fire his rookie year.

Career stats

Career stats

Year Year	Team Team	CMP% Completions percentage	YDS Passing yards	TD Passing touchdowns	INT Interceptions thrown	Rating Passer rating
2022	Bears	60.4	2,242	17	11	85.2
2021	Bears	58.9	1,870	7	10	73.2
Career		59.7	4,112	24	21	79.7

And the scary thing is that Justin Fields was light-years better as a passer in college than Richardson.

I wonder how may more 3-5 win seasons, where the Bears are 32nd in the league in pass attempts does the Bears FO give him before they move on? At some point you have to be able to win games.

Reasonably certain the Bears expect him to be passing more as early as this year since they added DJ Moore to the offense.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I watched the videos of all his passes and rated it as about 7 good passes and 7 bad passes, with the rest being indeterminate because he was under heavy pressure or just hit a wide open dump off. One was really impressive where he had two guys trying to take him down and he got off a loop pass to pick up a first down (though that could have been really dangerous against a better defense).

He clearly needs to improve that ratio to be considered an adequate NFL QB, but anyone saying he's hopeless is greatly overreacting.

Justin Fields didn't exactly set the woods on fire his rookie year.

Career stats

Career stats

Year Year	Team Team	CMP% Completions percentage	YDS Passing yards	TD Passing touchdowns	INT Interceptions thrown	Rating Passer rating
2022	Bears	60.4	2,242	17	11	85.2
2021	Bears	58.9	1,870	7	10	73.2
Career		59.7	4,112	24	21	79.7

And the scary thing is that Justin Fields was light-years better as a passer in college than Richardson.

I wonder how may more 3-5 win seasons, where the Bears are 32nd in the league in pass attempts does the Bears FO give him before they move on? At some point you have to be able to win games.

Tough to compare directly - Justin Fields was blessed with one of the greatest wr rooms in the history of college football

And one of the worst in the history of the pros.

 

[Faust]

Josh Norris
No QB was better at not allowing pressures to turn into sacks than Anthony Richardson in the 2023 class

an outstanding trait

this is exceptional work to gain positive yards

https://twitter.com/joshnorris/status/1694881904640606257?s=21

 

[Todem]

I have to say, the bar is already being lowered
Looks like completion % is going to be a non factor in evaluating this Quarterback, that's quite a shift.
When it's mentioned, there's a pushback and there is even some hints of ARich may never be a high completion QB
That does not sound like a long term answer for the Colts.

I do want to clarify that I am especially biased towards Quarterbacks that can't throw.
The same way I am biased against Wide Receivers that have a hard time catching the football.

I stated before….I saw nothing in College that gave me the impression he will come right in and win.

However…..the physical talent is so high and the ceiling is so high…..give him 32 NFL starts….then see where your at.

Mike Holmgren…..bonafide QB guru in his day….” I need 32 NFL starts before I know if I pay a guy on his second contract”.

I agree with that.

Some guys you know sooner…..but what team has that kind of old school patience anymore?

Colts should because they need a lot.

So let’s see how AR develops. And by all accounts I hear he is a film rat, high work ethic and highly coachable. That is great to hear.

He will have some success in FF because he can run….and run a lot. The game has changed. Todays NFL has shifted towards more mobile QB’s.

Even the best, Mahomes has fantastic pocket awareness and can move and make ungodly throws on the run.

 

[Chaka]

I wonder how may more 3-5 win seasons, where the Bears are 32nd in the league in pass attempts does the Bears FO give him before they move on? At some point you have to be able to win games.

It probably depends on the number of times the Bears have the #32 scoring defense in the league.

So you're position is they'll stay with Fields in perpetuity as long as their defense is bad?

My position is you posed a disingenuous question.

From week 5 on he jumped from 16 att/game, 50% completions, 1:2 TD:INT ratio and a rating of 59 to 23 attempts/game, 63% completions, 2:1 TD:INT ratio and a rating of 95.

They didn't throw a lot but the premise that they aren't letting him throw the ball seems flawed.

 

[massraider]

Anyone watch the Notre Dame game? That Irish QB is three years older than ARich.

Perspective.

 

[DocHolliday]

Anyone watch the Notre Dame game? That Irish QB is three years older than ARich.

Perspective.

Patience is another word for this situation. AR is probably going to struggle this season. His passing may be awful but he should be able to run similarly to Fields last year. Like Fields, that isn’t what you want from your QB due to injury risk but it is going to be fun as hell to watch. Fields should take a big step forward with his passing game this season and I expect the same from Richardson next season.

 

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[FreeBaGeL]

Anyone watch the Notre Dame game? That Irish QB is three years older than ARich.

Perspective.

Patience is another word for this situation. AR is probably going to struggle this season. His passing may be awful but he should be able to run similarly to Fields last year. Like Fields, that isn’t what you want from your QB due to injury risk but it is going to be fun as hell to watch. Fields should take a big step forward with his passing game this season and I expect the same from Richardson next season.

And again, this is something that keeps getting lost in the constant discussion of whether or not he can improve his passing ability to one day be a top 1000 NFL quarterback from a throwing perspective. Dating back to high school Richardson has rarely shown the ability to both run the ball and stay healthy enough to continue running the ball.

And these aren't flukey injuries. These are the kind of injuries that you see some guys can't shake. Basically the DeAndre Swift of QBs. Hamstrings, shoulders, ankles, concussion. He even tore his meniscus while dancing. There's a very real chance that he's a future Kadarius Toney meme and no one is even talking about it.

Not usually major injuries, but the kind where you miss a few weeks, then you come back for a few weeks but clearly weren't ready, then a few more weeks where you can run but can't really take hits so you just kind of scoot out of bounds every time. Then you look up and it's mid December and the guy who's whole value was supposed to be his legs has 450yds rushing.

1 out of 6 seasons between high school and college that he actually stayed healthy enough to really run the ball like everyone is hoping he will run the ball.

 

[need2know]

I thought he looked good

 

[(HULK)]

Gotta love the self-quote based upon a preseason quarter and a half of action.

I've bumped it a couple times actually.
6 of 17 against grocery baggers and you don't think that's any reason for people to be concerned?
It runs along with his completion % in college so i guess it doesn't matter.
How long can a QB in the NFL survive with a 50% or less completion rate?

I don't know how folks are drafting Pittman with this kind of look from the starting QB.

I'm a huge mark for AR and I didn't think that game was overly positive. I think he'll be solid for fantasy just due to the running. But his WRs outside of Pittman appear to have hands made of stone. Now, AR's throws are bullets, and some are off target somewhat. It was clear that Pierce and Downs are not used to pulling those throws in yet. That is concerning.

Long run, I still think AR is destined for greatness. But unless the team adds 2 more Michael Pittmans to the WR corps or PIerce/Downs take a large step forward, this year will be bumpy.

 

[(HULK)]

BUT I'M WORRIED ABOUT HIS TOUCH ON FOUR YARD PASSES

It's a fair criticism. Not just 4 yards out but everywhere. One thing that was clear from his college tape, and last night, is in the heat of a play he doesn't seem to be able to take anything off his fastball. I'm sure his touch passing looks great in practice, but it needs to translate to when the pocket is collapsing on game day.

He threw a lot of ropes on passes that should have had air under them. I thought he looked fine last night but the ability to learn touch passing was my biggest for him before the draft and still is today.

There is a reason his receivers seem to drop a lot of passes that hit them in the hands (or close to them).

Exactly this.

He'll learn to adjust his speed governor over time, but right now, nobody but Pittman is going to be trustworthy catching his missiles.

 

[Todem]

Anyone watch the Notre Dame game? That Irish QB is three years older than ARich.

Perspective.

Patience is another word for this situation. AR is probably going to struggle this season. His passing may be awful but he should be able to run similarly to Fields last year. Like Fields, that isn’t what you want from your QB due to injury risk but it is going to be fun as hell to watch. Fields should take a big step forward with his passing game this season and I expect the same from Richardson next season.

And again, this is something that keeps getting lost in the constant discussion of whether or not he can improve his passing ability to one day be a top 1000 NFL quarterback from a throwing perspective. Dating back to high school Richardson has rarely shown the ability to both run the ball and stay healthy enough to continue running the ball.

And these aren't flukey injuries. These are the kind of injuries that you see some guys can't shake. Basically the DeAndre Swift of QBs. Hamstrings, shoulders, ankles, concussion. He even tore his meniscus while dancing. There's a very real chance that he's a future Kadarius Toney meme and no one is even talking about it.

Not usually major injuries, but the kind where you miss a few weeks, then you come back for a few weeks but clearly weren't ready, then a few more weeks where you can run but can't really take hits so you just kind of scoot out of bounds every time. Then you look up and it's mid December and the guy who's whole value was supposed to be his legs has 450yds rushing.

1 out of 6 seasons between high school and college that he actually stayed healthy enough to really run the ball like everyone is hoping he will run the ball.

And this is what gives me some pause. If you can’t stay healthy…..you can’t produce and develop.

 

[JohnnyU]

Gotta love the self-quote based upon a preseason quarter and a half of action.

I've bumped it a couple times actually.
6 of 17 against grocery baggers and you don't think that's any reason for people to be concerned?
It runs along with his completion % in college so i guess it doesn't matter.
How long can a QB in the NFL survive with a 50% or less completion rate?

I don't know how folks are drafting Pittman with this kind of look from the starting QB.

I'm a huge mark for AR and I didn't think that game was overly positive. I think he'll be solid for fantasy just due to the running. But his WRs outside of Pittman appear to have hands made of stone. Now, AR's throws are bullets, and some are off target somewhat. It was clear that Pierce and Downs are not used to pulling those throws in yet. That is concerning.

Long run, I still think AR is destined for greatness. But unless the team adds 2 more Michael Pittmans to the WR corps or PIerce/Downs take a large step forward, this year will be bumpy.

The Colts need Marvin Harrison Jr.

 

[King of the Jungle]

I thought he looked good

His footwork and movement within the pocket was impressive to me.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

BUT I'M WORRIED ABOUT HIS TOUCH ON FOUR YARD PASSES

It's a fair criticism. Not just 4 yards out but everywhere. One thing that was clear from his college tape, and last night, is in the heat of a play he doesn't seem to be able to take anything off his fastball. I'm sure his touch passing looks great in practice, but it needs to translate to when the pocket is collapsing on game day.

He threw a lot of ropes on passes that should have had air under them. I thought he looked fine last night but the ability to learn touch passing was my biggest for him before the draft and still is today.

There is a reason his receivers seem to drop a lot of passes that hit them in the hands (or close to them).

Exactly this.

He'll learn to adjust his speed governor over time, but right now, nobody but Pittman is going to be trustworthy catching his missiles.

I think Pierce is a better match for the deep ball accuracy.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Gotta love the self-quote based upon a preseason quarter and a half of action.

I've bumped it a couple times actually.
6 of 17 against grocery baggers and you don't think that's any reason for people to be concerned?
It runs along with his completion % in college so i guess it doesn't matter.
How long can a QB in the NFL survive with a 50% or less completion rate?

I don't know how folks are drafting Pittman with this kind of look from the starting QB.

I'm a huge mark for AR and I didn't think that game was overly positive. I think he'll be solid for fantasy just due to the running. But his WRs outside of Pittman appear to have hands made of stone. Now, AR's throws are bullets, and some are off target somewhat. It was clear that Pierce and Downs are not used to pulling those throws in yet. That is concerning.

Long run, I still think AR is destined for greatness. But unless the team adds 2 more Michael Pittmans to the WR corps or PIerce/Downs take a large step forward, this year will be bumpy.

The Colts need Marvin Harrison Jr.

Every team needs MH Jr.