He definitely does seem a "Shoot for the moon" type of pick and I'm sure in SF its a way harder decision.With his injury history, which dates back to high school, I don't think I could draft him at his current ADP.
He won't unless he learns how to slide.I could easily see Richardson being QB1 by the end of the year. He and JT are going to be a problem on the ground.
he could for sure. I don't see it though.I could easily see Richardson being QB1 by the end of the year. He and JT are going to be a problem on the ground.
Why? What does he bring to the QB position that's wowing you?I could easily see Richardson being QB1 by the end of the year. He and JT are going to be a problem on the ground.
I'll bite old friend! I doubt ARich finishes QB1, but he has that upside. You can argue he's the greatest athlete to ever play the position in the NFL from a size/speed standpoint. Colts have a very good OL, good receivers, and an elite RB. Mix in a MikeVick/LamarJackson type QB and if he stays healthy, 1000 yards and 12 TDs on the ground isn't far fetched.Why? What does he bring to the QB position that are wowing you?I could easily see Richardson being QB1 by the end of the year. He and JT are going to be a problem on the ground.
-It feels like GMs out there view Richardson as somehow being able to bend the rules to their favor and it's fascinating. It's like when Taysom Hill is being put int he wrong box and plays QB but is really a TE or vice cersa and GMs get all giddy for a second and think they can somehow skirt the rules.
The guy plays QB and it appears on the surface that he prefers to run or that his best quality is his ability to tuck it and run.
And we've yet to see one of these run first types win a Super Bowl, most is not all are accomplished pocket passers that win the rings.
And he's drafted at QB6 right now when I glanced at ADP rankings, so many safer bets that will likely reap you more points.
I'm surprised he's being drafted as high as he is
QB1 you say?
I think this is what you’re going to see with him most of the year. Seems to me he’ll always be a better fantasy QB than real life.Pick 6, way to go AR. Looked good on the first drive and then that. Buckle up folks
I could easily see Richardson being QB1 by the end of the year. He and JT are going to be a problem on the ground.
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The timeline is not being nice to Anthony Richardson tonight, but just know. Regardless of what you think of him in real life, if he runs there’s almost no shot he’s a fantasy bust
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Not gonna spend the entire night litigating a preseason game. So, here's my bottom line on Anthony Richardson.
The 4 games he played last yr is a small sample, but it's bigger than 2 quarters in a preseason game.
And what he showed last yr IMO was enough to believe he'll be ok.
That doesn't mean perfect. But he clearly demonstrated he's a competent QB and he has the bonus of having otherworldly athletic ability (which he intentionally didn't show tonight). Just gotta put it all together. There will be bumps, but I'm not worried.
I'll bite.Why? What does he bring to the QB position that's wowing you?I could easily see Richardson being QB1 by the end of the year. He and JT are going to be a problem on the ground.
-It feels like GMs out there view Richardson as somehow being able to bend the rules to their favor and it's fascinating. It's like when Taysom Hill is being put int he wrong box and plays QB but is really a TE or vice versa and GMs get all giddy for a second and think they can somehow skirt the rules.
The guy plays QB and it appears on the surface that he prefers to run or that his best quality is his ability to tuck it and run.
And we've yet to see one of these run first types win a Super Bowl, most is not all are accomplished pocket passers that win the rings.
And he's drafted at QB6 right now when I glanced at ADP rankings, so many safer bets that will likely reap you more points.
I'm surprised he's being drafted as high as he is
QB1 you say?
However, like Tebow, if you can't help the team win, do you stay on the on the field?Michael F. Florio
The timeline is not being nice to Anthony Richardson tonight, but just know. Regardless of what you think of him in real life, if he runs there’s almost no shot he’s a fantasy bust
Tim Tebow was a good fantasy QB!x.com
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I think its mostly in part to a minority of owners placing him in an elite tier already. He went #6 overall in a recent SF startup I did. It's just too much of a risk for me, but the people that believe are all in. Its ripe to create the pointing out every time he messes up scenario.Feels like this guy gets a lot of undue hate. I think for fantasy he's going to be great, and for real football he could be great. Reminds me a bit of Cam tbh.
I think that's a big part of the supporters' optimism - known as a very good coach with a creative mind that helped turned Jalen Hurts from a superb athlete with accuracy issues to a dynamic well-rounded QB. Many probably think he can do similar things with Richardson - time will tell.Shane Steichen has a proven record of developing young QBs.
Betting on preseason football does not seem like a long term winning strategy.The pick 6 he threw cost me $300 gambling.
No, you couldn't have but I get your meaning.I could have made a house call on that play.
Hurts too.Yeah his accuracy could be an issue lol. I didn't like that he missed on that 3rd and 8 and over threw a wide open Mitchell I think on a crossing route. Thought that was more telling vs the miscommunication on the pick 6. I recall the same concerns about Josh Allen before/after his rookie season that he couldn't hit wide open WR.
Hurts too.Yeah his accuracy could be an issue lol. I didn't like that he missed on that 3rd and 8 and over threw a wide open Mitchell I think on a crossing route. Thought that was more telling vs the miscommunication on the pick 6. I recall the same concerns about Josh Allen before/after his rookie season that he couldn't hit wide open WR.
Was going to say ... Hurts is averaging under 190 pyd/gm over his career, and just a little over 1 ptd/gm, which both sound pretty pathetic. Then I thought, well maybe it's a volume issue, so I checked the career pyd/att leaders, where he is a hair above Joe Burrow ... So, nevermind, I think he's doing just fine!Hurts too.Yeah his accuracy could be an issue lol. I didn't like that he missed on that 3rd and 8 and over threw a wide open Mitchell I think on a crossing route. Thought that was more telling vs the miscommunication on the pick 6. I recall the same concerns about Josh Allen before/after his rookie season that he couldn't hit wide open WR.
This was covered a bit earlier in the thread, but Richardson is not even in the same stratosphere as Hurts as a passer coming into the league.
Hurts was actually a pretty good passer as a college QB, who could also run. Richardson was basically a running back that lined up at QB and had a strong arm.
College passing stats
Hurts: 9477yds, 80 TD, 20 INT, 65% completion, 9.1 ypa
Richardson: 3105yds, 24 TD, 15 INT, 54% completion, 7.8ypa
You could've taken away Hurts' legs entirely and he would've still been a top college QB. It's a complete non-starter to even mention them in the same sentence.
The only reasonable comparison for Richardson is Josh Allen. He wasn't nearly as prolific of a runner as guys like Lamar Jackson, and not nearly as good of a passer as guys like Jalen Hurts. Josh Allen is the comp, which obviously leaves considerable upside, but a guy like Allen working out is historically pretty low percentage. I'm also not sure that Allen had nearly the same issues with staying healthy which coming into the league was ARich's other massive wart that everyone seemed to just ignore because they were too busy arguing about his accuracy.
There's nothing wrong with an upside play at QB especially in 1 QB leagues where a replacement is easy to find, so long as an appropriate price is being paid to acquire him. It's that last part where I think a lot of people got ahead of themselves.
don't think the pick six was inaccuracy. he thought the receiver was sitting inside and he went out. still could have been Richardson's fault, but it was definitely miscommunication
You did say rare traits?I'll bite.Why? What does he bring to the QB position that's wowing you?I could easily see Richardson being QB1 by the end of the year. He and JT are going to be a problem on the ground.
-It feels like GMs out there view Richardson as somehow being able to bend the rules to their favor and it's fascinating. It's like when Taysom Hill is being put int he wrong box and plays QB but is really a TE or vice versa and GMs get all giddy for a second and think they can somehow skirt the rules.
The guy plays QB and it appears on the surface that he prefers to run or that his best quality is his ability to tuck it and run.
And we've yet to see one of these run first types win a Super Bowl, most is not all are accomplished pocket passers that win the rings.
And he's drafted at QB6 right now when I glanced at ADP rankings, so many safer bets that will likely reap you more points.
I'm surprised he's being drafted as high as he is
QB1 you say?
What makes me think he can be the QB1?
Rare traits that allow him to rush for possibly 1k yards and double digit TDs.
Started and finished 2 games last year. Was QB2 and QB4 in those weeks.
Has a bevy of weapons to toss the rock to.
Shane Steichen has a proven record of developing young QBs.
Thats about all I got, but I don't see any world where he isn't a top 10 QB. I'm drafting him in round 4/5 this year and backing him up with vets in the later rounds to be safe.
He was inaccurate on more than the pick 6. After that first drive he didn’t look all that good. I’m sure he will cause Colts fans to lose their hair this season. A great play followed by three bad ones.Generally in the past I've come to this message board and people seem to be either level headed or completely batsheet insane.
One pass in one preseason game. One. In preseason. Maybe the coach just decided who the pass was going to before the snap even started, because it's preseason, and they were trying to see how a certain play worked against that coverage
The most bonkers thing is people putting any money on a preseason game. You might have a problem there.
So Jamis Wilson with wheels?He was inaccurate on more than the pick 6. After that first drive he didn’t look all that good. I’m sure he will cause Colts fans to lose their hair this season. A great play followed by three bad ones.Generally in the past I've come to this message board and people seem to be either level headed or completely batsheet insane.
One pass in one preseason game. One. In preseason. Maybe the coach just decided who the pass was going to before the snap even started, because it's preseason, and they were trying to see how a certain play worked against that coverage
The most bonkers thing is people putting any money on a preseason game. You might have a problem there.
Correct. Its not actually deniable.You did say rare traits?I'll bite.Why? What does he bring to the QB position that's wowing you?I could easily see Richardson being QB1 by the end of the year. He and JT are going to be a problem on the ground.
-It feels like GMs out there view Richardson as somehow being able to bend the rules to their favor and it's fascinating. It's like when Taysom Hill is being put int he wrong box and plays QB but is really a TE or vice versa and GMs get all giddy for a second and think they can somehow skirt the rules.
The guy plays QB and it appears on the surface that he prefers to run or that his best quality is his ability to tuck it and run.
And we've yet to see one of these run first types win a Super Bowl, most is not all are accomplished pocket passers that win the rings.
And he's drafted at QB6 right now when I glanced at ADP rankings, so many safer bets that will likely reap you more points.
I'm surprised he's being drafted as high as he is
QB1 you say?
What makes me think he can be the QB1?
Rare traits that allow him to rush for possibly 1k yards and double digit TDs.
Started and finished 2 games last year. Was QB2 and QB4 in those weeks.
Has a bevy of weapons to toss the rock to.
Shane Steichen has a proven record of developing young QBs.
Thats about all I got, but I don't see any world where he isn't a top 10 QB. I'm drafting him in round 4/5 this year and backing him up with vets in the later rounds to be safe.
Got it, thanks
His rushing upside is all but guaranteed barring injury.577 career passing yards and 3 passing tds yet being drafted as the #5 QB. I get the appeal. I get the upside. But at #5 your basically expecting him to rush for 1000 yards. That's a lot of hopeful expectation. Time will tell
Won't finish the season again....he sneezes he get's hurt.
He has proven one thing.....he can't stay on the field.
Hard pass at his ADP....I mean seriously good luck with that.
Hey a broken clock is right two times a day.....maybe this is the year a lotto ticket like him leads to a fantasy title for someone....but I don't swing for the fences with a guy like this with a proven track record of being on the shelf more often than not.....this is not sandlot football. And his accuracy is an abortion. Tantalizing physical talent.....I get it.
I don’t hate him. Hate is a powerful word.Won't finish the season again....he sneezes he get's hurt.
He has proven one thing.....he can't stay on the field.
Hard pass at his ADP....I mean seriously good luck with that.
Hey a broken clock is right two times a day.....maybe this is the year a lotto ticket like him leads to a fantasy title for someone....but I don't swing for the fences with a guy like this with a proven track record of being on the shelf more often than not.....this is not sandlot football. And his accuracy is an abortion. Tantalizing physical talent.....I get it.
I don't mind it. You can't love every player, why not hate a few?