QB Anthony Richardson, IND (1 Viewer)

[JohnnyU]

Ari Meirov
Anthony Richardson with a brutal redzone interception. Just can't have this.

Already his 5th INT on the year.

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Peyton Manning led the league in interceptions his rookie year. This might as well be Richardson’s rookie year

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Ari Meirov
Anthony Richardson with a brutal redzone interception. Just can't have this.

Already his 5th INT on the year.

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Peyton Manning led the league in interceptions his rookie year. This might as well be Richardson’s rookie year

How many tds?

 

[JohnnyU]

Ari Meirov
Anthony Richardson with a brutal redzone interception. Just can't have this.

Already his 5th INT on the year.

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Peyton Manning led the league in interceptions his rookie year. This might as well be Richardson’s rookie year

How many tds?

Look it up. He set a rookie record at the time for that too.

 

[BlackCrowes]

Oof

 

[kface]

He's pretty awful

 

[Smack Tripper]

He can throw it deeper but reminds you of cam in New England

 

[karl.Racki]

He's pretty awful

I would hold off.. He does make some nice plays, but his decision making is what kills him..With his injuries last year, I am going to give him the benefit that this is year 1 for him.

 

[taylormeetstheismann]

I think it’s important to be patient with QBs. It can take a few years for young QBs to be effective and reliable as a QB1 for your team. I’ll never roster a first or second year QB in a redraft. Probably not even a third year QB unless they’ve already proven themselves.

 

[Fat Nick]

I think it’s important to be patient with QBs. It can take a few years for young QBs to be effective and reliable as a QB1 for your team. I’ll never roster a first or second year QB in a redraft. Probably not even a third year QB unless they’ve already proven themselves.

Honestly - I'll take it a step further and say that having a veteran to sit behind for a year (or ideally two or three) is an immense help for rookie QB's. Look at the Packers - They've had the longest run of solid starting QB's I can think of. Rodgers sat behind Favre for 3 years. Love sat behind Rodgers for 3 years. Mahomes sat behind Alex Smith. Yes - guys like Stroud happen, but they're few and far between.

I can't help but wonder how many "bust" QB's could've actually been great if they weren't thrust into starting for a team that went 2-14 the year before and had their confidence (and bodies) ruined.

As for AR - I was honestly surprised he was a day 1 starter last year. All the pre-draft talk was about how raw he was and how he'd be a project. I bet against him last year, and I'll bet against him this year. I just don't think he'll make it...but it's also too early to pass that judgement.

 

[chad in Indy]

He's pretty awful

I would hold off.. He does make some nice plays, but his decision making is what kills him..With his injuries last year, I am going to give him the benefit that this is year 1 for him.

It's not just his decision making. He can't make the short timing route throws at all. He regularly sails the passes 5-6 feet over the receiver's head.

 

[Max Power]

His two INTs were some of the worst throws I've seen a QB make. He was lucky not to have a third turnover, but the refs ruled him down early.

 

[King of the Jungle]

It is fascinating watching this guy try to play quarterback. His ability to make the miracle throw is up there with anyone, but you cannot survive long in this league if you cannot accurately hit the easy ones.

 

[Soulfly3]

well, he is what I thought he was overall, when I likened him to a better (in college) version of trey lance.

 

[zamboni]

Have to expect the learning curve on his passing, but what concerns me more is that he's not running much and that really decreases his floor.

 

[JohnnyU]

Have to expect the learning curve on his passing, but what concerns me more is that he's not running much and that really decreases his floor.

I agree and noticed this as well. He should be rolling out more to either pass or run. I think that would be more beneficial to his progress and I also think he might be more accurate doing that.

 

[zeeshan2]

I think it’s important to be patient with QBs. It can take a few years for young QBs to be effective and reliable as a QB1 for your team. I’ll never roster a first or second year QB in a redraft. Probably not even a third year QB unless they’ve already proven themselves.

Honestly - I'll take it a step further and say that having a veteran to sit behind for a year (or ideally two or three) is an immense help for rookie QB's. Look at the Packers - They've had the longest run of solid starting QB's I can think of. Rodgers sat behind Favre for 3 years. Love sat behind Rodgers for 3 years. Mahomes sat behind Alex Smith. Yes - guys like Stroud happen, but they're few and far between.

I can't help but wonder how many "bust" QB's could've actually been great if they weren't thrust into starting for a team that went 2-14 the year before and had their confidence (and bodies) ruined.

As for AR - I was honestly surprised he was a day 1 starter last year. All the pre-draft talk was about how raw he was and how he'd be a project. I bet against him last year, and I'll bet against him this year. I just don't think he'll make it...but it's also too early to pass that judgement.

Teams don't want to do that anymore because they want to take advantage of the cheap rookie years before you have to pay them 50-60M a year just to retain them

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Have to expect the learning curve on his passing, but what concerns me more is that he's not running much and that really decreases his floor.

I agree and noticed this as well. He should be rolling out more to either pass or run. I think that would be more beneficial to his progress and I also think he might be more accurate doing that.

When he runs he gets hurt. So they'll protect him and not let him run as much. I've been screaming this from the rooftops in this thread for over a year!

That's why the LJax comparisons never made sense. Lamar can run and stay healthy, so he gets to run a lot. Richardson always gets hurt when he runs, so much like his time at Florida, coaches have to protect him from himself and limit the running, which severely damages his fantasy production.

It's a similar story to Kyler Murray. Kyler could rush for 1000+ yards every year if he didn't have to be protected from injuring himself. But Kyler is a good enough passer to still be a good fantasy asset even when he's limited to rushing only 40-50% of what he would be capable of if injury risk were taken out of the equation. Richardson is a long ways from that.

 

[zamboni]

Have to expect the learning curve on his passing, but what concerns me more is that he's not running much and that really decreases his floor.

I agree and noticed this as well. He should be rolling out more to either pass or run. I think that would be more beneficial to his progress and I also think he might be more accurate doing that.

When he runs he gets hurt. So they'll protect him and not let him run as much. I've been screaming this from the rooftops in this thread for over a year!

That's why the LJax comparisons never made sense. Lamar can run and stay healthy, so he gets to run a lot. Richardson always gets hurt when he runs, so much like his time at Florida, coaches have to protect him from himself and limit the running, which severely damages his fantasy production.

It's a similar story to Kyler Murray. Kyler could rush for 1000+ yards every year if he didn't have to be protected from injuring himself. But Kyler is a good enough passer to still be a good fantasy asset even when he's limited to rushing only 40-50% of what he would be capable of if injury risk were taken out of the equation. Richardson is a long ways from that.

That could be the case - Steichen trying to protect Richardson from getting hurt, but he also has stated that he didn't want to change the way Richardson plays because his legs are such an asset. Maybe it's the benefit of having Taylor back there - who knows. We'll see how they play it going forward - winning games certainly covers up a lot of issues though.

 

[JohnnyU]

Have to expect the learning curve on his passing, but what concerns me more is that he's not running much and that really decreases his floor.

I agree and noticed this as well. He should be rolling out more to either pass or run. I think that would be more beneficial to his progress and I also think he might be more accurate doing that.

When he runs he gets hurt. So they'll protect him and not let him run as much. I've been screaming this from the rooftops in this thread for over a year!

That's why the LJax comparisons never made sense. Lamar can run and stay healthy, so he gets to run a lot. Richardson always gets hurt when he runs, so much like his time at Florida, coaches have to protect him from himself and limit the running, which severely damages his fantasy production.

It's a similar story to Kyler Murray. Kyler could rush for 1000+ yards every year if he didn't have to be protected from injuring himself. But Kyler is a good enough passer to still be a good fantasy asset even when he's limited to rushing only 40-50% of what he would be capable of if injury risk were taken out of the equation. Richardson is a long ways from that.

So be it. I disagree with you and think AR needs to have the option of running more and that means more rollout plays. That will play to his strength. Being strictly a pocket passer is NOT. If he gets hurt, so be it. I'd rather him play to his strength than his weakness.

 

[Faust]

Colts QB Anthony Richardson struggling for accuracy

 

[JohnnyU]

Colts QB Anthony Richardson struggling for accuracy

I believe Steichen has dropped the ball. He should be having AR rollout more that plays to his strength to either pass or run. I also think his accuracy would improve with that scheme. Instead, I think Steichen is playing to his weakness by making him mostly a pocket passer and I think making him so inaccurate on short to medium range throws.

 

[jm192]

Have to expect the learning curve on his passing, but what concerns me more is that he's not running much and that really decreases his floor.

I agree and noticed this as well. He should be rolling out more to either pass or run. I think that would be more beneficial to his progress and I also think he might be more accurate doing that.

When he runs he gets hurt. So they'll protect him and not let him run as much. I've been screaming this from the rooftops in this thread for over a year!

That's why the LJax comparisons never made sense. Lamar can run and stay healthy, so he gets to run a lot. Richardson always gets hurt when he runs, so much like his time at Florida, coaches have to protect him from himself and limit the running, which severely damages his fantasy production.

It's a similar story to Kyler Murray. Kyler could rush for 1000+ yards every year if he didn't have to be protected from injuring himself. But Kyler is a good enough passer to still be a good fantasy asset even when he's limited to rushing only 40-50% of what he would be capable of if injury risk were taken out of the equation. Richardson is a long ways from that.

I mean

Either way, we're in a disaster situation for fantasy. He's not a good passer from the pocket. Even if he improves, he's not going to be a Mahommes/Dak/Burrow type where you can envision 5,000 yards and 35 TD's.

His rushing upside was always the reason people gravitated towards him. Now if that doesn't even exist in the name of keeping him healthy...forget about it.

 

[Todem]

I seem to remember Lamar Jackson couldn't hit the ocean three feet from it when he first came into the league. While I've always pointed out how inaccurate AR is on short to medium throws, there is still hope with him. The Colts current problems are far more reaching. Their inability to stop the run reminds me of their Super Bowl winning year in 2026, where they couldn't stop the run, but when the playoffs arrived they were suddenly the 85 Bears, once they got Bob Sanders back from injury. Now this team is not that team and isn't going anywhere but down. They lost Buckner, Latu, and Brents this week to injury. Not sure for how long, but Brents' injury may be season ending. This team is in deep trouble for 2024. That I do know.

Not to nearly the same extent.

After starting 6 games as a rookie, in his second year Lamar Jackson completed 66% of his passes with 36 TDs and 6 INTs.

Granted Richardson played 2 fewer games than Lamar as rookie, but this year of course looks very different than what Lamar looked like in year 2, or even what Lamar looked like as a rookie.

In his first 3 years (38 games) Lamar never had a game where he completed 50% of his passes or fewer. Richardson has completed 50% or fewer 3 times already.

But the really big difference is that Lamar could stay healthy while running, and his coaches didn't have to protect him by asking him to tone down the running. Lamar ran for 70+ yards in 6 of his first 7 starts. Richardson's career high is 56 yards.

Again, the ONLY guy Richardson compares to and the only path to upside is Josh Allen. People throw out names like Lamar Jackson or Jalen Hurts but he's nothing like those guys. Josh Allen was similarly inaccurate as a rookie but again the one thing Allen always had was the ability to stay healthy.

Lamar was 100 times the QB AR was in college.

I saw enough at Florida to evaluate AR as a long shot lotto ticket based on his very tempting physicality but 2 cent accuracy and the inability to stay healthy on a consistent basis.

Colts will be drafting another QB by 2027 after the AR experience is deemed a failure.

He will show flashes but never be that guy that can win consistently at the pro level.

 

[FarFromHome]

I've just always felt he was more really good athlete then really good QB. Now. Can he become a really good QB? Possibly.

 

[Todem]

Ari Meirov
Anthony Richardson with a brutal redzone interception. Just can't have this.

Already his 5th INT on the year.

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Peyton Manning led the league in interceptions his rookie year. This might as well be Richardson’s rookie year

Your Colt homerisim is blinding you lol.

I get it though.

 

[JohnnyU]

Ari Meirov
Anthony Richardson with a brutal redzone interception. Just can't have this.

Already his 5th INT on the year.

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Peyton Manning led the league in interceptions his rookie year. This might as well be Richardson’s rookie year

Your Colt homerisim is blinding you lol.

I get it though.

I believe I addressed the real problem with AR in my last post. Probably more important to focus on that post than the one you responded to, which wasn't entirely non-jest. Yes, I hate double negatives too.

 

[Todem]

Ari Meirov
Anthony Richardson with a brutal redzone interception. Just can't have this.

Already his 5th INT on the year.

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Peyton Manning led the league in interceptions his rookie year. This might as well be Richardson’s rookie year

Your Colt homerisim is blinding you lol.

I get it though.

I believe I addressed the real problem with AR in my last post. Probably more important to focus on that post than that one, which wasn't entirely non-jest. Yes, I hate double negatives too.

Getting him out of pocket will help him agreed.

I hope you guys found your next franchise QB…..we (Fins) are still searching.

 

[Donnybrook]

Remember when scouts were saying that the Florida Gators wide outs were responsible for his 54.7 % comp percentage.

 

[JohnnyU]

Ari Meirov
Anthony Richardson with a brutal redzone interception. Just can't have this.

Already his 5th INT on the year.

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Peyton Manning led the league in interceptions his rookie year. This might as well be Richardson’s rookie year

Your Colt homerisim is blinding you lol.

I get it though.

I believe I addressed the real problem with AR in my last post. Probably more important to focus on that post than that one, which wasn't entirely non-jest. Yes, I hate double negatives too.

Getting him out of pocket will help him agreed.

I hope you guys found your next franchise QB…..we (Fins) are still searching.

The problem is, that one would think Steichen would have figured this out by now. What am I missing?

 

[JohnnyU]

Remember when scouts were saying that the Florida Gators wide outs were responsible for his 54.7 % comp percentage.

I still remember his body language after the Ky loss, but I'm blowing it off as inexperience and youth. Now I see him trotting off the field smiling after a bad series. That bothers me some, but again, youth? Self defense mechanism?

 

[jumper]

Sitting AR until further notice. Now I just need to decide between Darnold, Mayfield, or Geno Smith to start. I'm inclined to Darnold but feel he's going to turn back into a pumpkin soon whereas Mayfield seems the safer but boring choice.

 

[need2know]

Remember when scouts were saying that the Florida Gators wide outs were responsible for his 54.7 % comp percentage.

hes never looked like an NFL QB to me.
Just watching him play, viewing his actual accomplishments(not many), and remembering the fact that he gets injured constantly makes me think hes an epic bust and will never reach the level the colts hope he can.

 

[rodalive]

It has been obvious since day 1 AR is not an NFL QB. You can't roll him out every play because he's completely incapable of passing from the pocket. Flacco is warming up and they will be a much better team with him.

 

[JohnnyU]

Sitting AR until further notice. Now I just need to decide between Darnold, Mayfield, or Geno Smith to start. I'm inclined to Darnold but feel he's going to turn back into a pumpkin soon whereas Mayfield seems the safer but boring choice.

Well, Halloween is just around the corner.

 

[JohnnyU]

It has been obvious since day 1 AR is not an NFL QB. You can't roll him out every play because he's completely incapable of passing from the pocket. Flacco is warming up and they will be a much better team with him.

If every GM thought as you do they wouldn’t hold a job very long.

 

[rodalive]

You're flailing around in here knowing you were wrong, dude is a bust

 

[JohnnyU]

You're flailing around in here knowing you were wrong, dude is a bust

So, you don’t think he is fixable with a combination of scheme and coaching? OK, got it, but just because you say it doesn’t make it true. He’s still basically a rookie that shows a nice deep ball.

 

[FarFromHome]

You're flailing around in here knowing you were wrong, dude is a bust

So, you don’t think he is fixable with a combination of scheme and coaching? OK, got it, but just because you say it doesn’t make it true. He’s still basically a rookie that shows a nice deep ball.

I think Mike Tomlin is showing the blueprint of these super athletic passing limited QBs. Control. Control. Limit everything. An 8th grade playbook. Then open it up. Little by little.

 

[JohnnyU]

Another reason why they need to have him rollout more is he thinks less and it becomes a natural throw. The more time he has to throw the worse it is. Strange but true. I thought Steve Young and Fran Tarkenton were better on the move. Elway was also effective.

 

[efactor]

You're flailing around in here knowing you were wrong, dude is a bust

Panic much?

 

[Jayded]

He feels like the quintessential player you hear described as "raw talent." The more I see that, the more we should collectively read that for what it is : "he's not ready" but also something we rarely talk about : "but we think we can fix/mold him to full potential."

I think coaches and GMs have a very lofty sense of "we can be the ones to fix him" for many sports, but is especially playing out over and over again at QB in the NFL. Just change the OC, that'll be it. Oh, it's the line, that's gotta be it. Maybe if we..... that'll be it. It feels more and more that the ones who will make it show so early and it's subtle tweaks needed from there. Who is the last "raw" player that truly made it into the investment put forth for a high draft pick? Seems like a lot of teams are chasing their own tails thinking they can solve a problem no one else seems to be able to solve either.

 

[BlackCrowes]

not invested at all, but in no way do i label this guy a bust after so few career starts.

 

[JohnnyU]

He feels like the quintessential player you hear described as "raw talent." The more I see that, the more we should collectively read that for what it is : "he's not ready" but also something we rarely talk about : "but we think we can fix/mold him to full potential."

I think coaches and GMs have a very lofty sense of "we can be the ones to fix him" for many sports, but is especially playing out over and over again at QB in the NFL. Just change the OC, that'll be it. Oh, it's the line, that's gotta be it. Maybe if we..... that'll be it. It feels more and more that the ones who will make it show so early and it's subtle tweaks needed from there. Who is the last "raw" player that truly made it into the investment put forth for a high draft pick? Seems like a lot of teams are chasing their own tails thinking they can solve a problem no one else seems to be able to solve either.

Steichen is part of the problem with how he is scheming Richardson. Didn't Lamar Jackson get better after they played to his strengths instead of trying to make him a pocket passer?

 

[zamboni]

He feels like the quintessential player you hear described as "raw talent." The more I see that, the more we should collectively read that for what it is : "he's not ready" but also something we rarely talk about : "but we think we can fix/mold him to full potential."

I think coaches and GMs have a very lofty sense of "we can be the ones to fix him" for many sports, but is especially playing out over and over again at QB in the NFL. Just change the OC, that'll be it. Oh, it's the line, that's gotta be it. Maybe if we..... that'll be it. It feels more and more that the ones who will make it show so early and it's subtle tweaks needed from there. Who is the last "raw" player that truly made it into the investment put forth for a high draft pick? Seems like a lot of teams are chasing their own tails thinking they can solve a problem no one else seems to be able to solve either.

Steichen is part of the problem with how he is scheming Richardson. Didn't Lamar Jackson get better after they played to his strengths instead of trying to make him a pocket passer?

Steichen did the same thing with Jalen Hurts, who also couldn't hit the broad side of the barn when he first took over at QB.

 

[ghostguy123]

I see why he isn't, but he needs to run more early to open up the pass

 

[rodalive]

You're flailing around in here knowing you were wrong, dude is a bust

Panic much?

I'm not panicked, I'm not invested. Accuracy can be improved but his is so awful it's a hill I don't see him climbing. But for as long as he can hold on as starter he'll get you fantasy points as he can run and occasionally hit some bombs. Some can't discern the difference from good fantasy QB vs good NFL QB.

 

[JohnnyU]

You're flailing around in here knowing you were wrong, dude is a bust

Panic much?

I'm not panicked, I'm not invested. Accuracy can be improved but his is so awful it's a hill I don't see him climbing. But for as long as he can hold on as starter he'll get you fantasy points as he can run and occasionally hit some bombs. Some can't discern the difference from good fantasy QB vs good NFL QB.

So you don't think a change of scheme by getting him out of the pocket more wouldn't help?

 

[rodalive]

You're flailing around in here knowing you were wrong, dude is a bust

Panic much?

I'm not panicked, I'm not invested. Accuracy can be improved but his is so awful it's a hill I don't see him climbing. But for as long as he can hold on as starter he'll get you fantasy points as he can run and occasionally hit some bombs. Some can't discern the difference from good fantasy QB vs good NFL QB.

So you don't think a change of scheme by getting him out of the pocket more wouldn't help?

Not long term, at some point you have to have some ability to throw with accuracy from the pocket. It's not like his accuracy is occasionally off, pretty easy throws for average NFL QBs sail wildly over his WRs heads. It's why Pittman is worthless in fantasy until Flacco plays.

 

[JohnnyU]

You're flailing around in here knowing you were wrong, dude is a bust

Panic much?

I'm not panicked, I'm not invested. Accuracy can be improved but his is so awful it's a hill I don't see him climbing. But for as long as he can hold on as starter he'll get you fantasy points as he can run and occasionally hit some bombs. Some can't discern the difference from good fantasy QB vs good NFL QB.

So you don't think a change of scheme by getting him out of the pocket more wouldn't help?

Not long term, at some point you have to have some ability to throw with accuracy from the pocket. It's not like his accuracy is occasionally off, pretty easy throws for average NFL QBs sail wildly over his WRs heads. It's why Pittman is worthless in fantasy until Flacco plays.

You're probably right, but I think building confidence and thinking less on the run /pass option would help him long term.

 

[doeseatplace]

I seem to remember Lamar Jackson couldn't hit the ocean three feet from it when he first came into the league. While I've always pointed out how inaccurate AR is on short to medium throws, there is still hope with him. The Colts current problems are far more reaching. Their inability to stop the run reminds me of their Super Bowl winning year in 2026, where they couldn't stop the run, but when the playoffs arrived they were suddenly the 85 Bears, once they got Bob Sanders back from injury. Now this team is not that team and isn't going anywhere but down. They lost Buckner, Latu, and Brents this week to injury. Not sure for how long, but Brents' injury may be season ending. This team is in deep trouble for 2024. That I do know.

Not to nearly the same extent.

After starting 6 games as a rookie, in his second year Lamar Jackson completed 66% of his passes with 36 TDs and 6 INTs.

Granted Richardson played 2 fewer games than Lamar as rookie, but this year of course looks very different than what Lamar looked like in year 2, or even what Lamar looked like as a rookie.

In his first 3 years (38 games) Lamar never had a game where he completed 50% of his passes or fewer. Richardson has completed 50% or fewer 3 times already.

But the really big difference is that Lamar could stay healthy while running, and his coaches didn't have to protect him by asking him to tone down the running. Lamar ran for 70+ yards in 6 of his first 7 starts. Richardson's career high is 56 yards.

Again, the ONLY guy Richardson compares to and the only path to upside is Josh Allen. People throw out names like Lamar Jackson or Jalen Hurts but he's nothing like those guys. Josh Allen was similarly inaccurate as a rookie but again the one thing Allen always had was the ability to stay healthy.

I saw enough at Florida to evaluate AR as a long shot lotto ticket based on his very tempting physicality but 2 cent accuracy and the inability to stay healthy on a consistent basis.

Colts will be drafting another QB by 2027 after the AR experience is deemed a failure.

He will show flashes but never be that guy that can win consistently at the pro level.

100%. Thank you Todem for being an AR truther in a dense forest of manufactured hype

He was not a good college quarterback. All you had to do was watch a couple of Gator games to see that. But if your scouting was based exclusively on SportsCenter Top 10 highlights, I can see why people saw him as a can’t miss prospect

Not good college QBs rarely turn into great NFL QBs, no matter how physically gifted they are