QB Anthony Richardson, IND (1 Viewer)

[JohnnyU]

He's got a long way to go that's for sure.

I thought he'd run more than he does.

He did run 14 times yesterday, but perhaps that's because Taylor was inactive.

Did you notice he slid twice? I liked that. They obviously have emphasized that to him.

 

[zamboni]

He's got a long way to go that's for sure.

I thought he'd run more than he does.

He did run 14 times yesterday, but perhaps that's because Taylor was inactive.

Did you notice he slid twice? I liked that. They obviously have emphasized that to him.

I didn't see the highlights, but that's good to hear.

 

[Kiddnets]

It's been obvious since day 1 this guy is not a real NFL QB. Time to admit the mistake and move on

Are the Colts to forget how great he looked against the Steelers in his game before this one? He's only started 9 NFL games. Isn't there a development process in progress? How many games do you use to give up on a QB?

im in the camp that he should get the entire season no matter how bad he looks - with such a high pick invested they should see if the light comes on at some point. Zach Wilson and Bryce even had a full season....

 

[Terpman22]

Give him the rest of the season. See if that helps. You can't give up yet/right now.

But Man, he looks like s*** and I'm having a hard time believing this big of a project can be developed into anything, at this point.

 

[-jb-]

why not take the jordan love approach. run flacco out there until he can prove he can complete a ****ing pass. i cant imagine he's amazing in practice then this craptastic in games

 

[oswizzle]

Bro is meh for sure … couldn’t hit water if he fell out of a boat …. He’s got zero touch/accuracy on his passes

 

[crushedspirit]

Colts are 4-3 and currently in contention for a shot at a playoff spot.

Now they must decide what they value more as a franchise, and who gives them the best chance to fight for it.

 

[JohnnyU]

Colts are 4-3 and currently in contention for a shot at a playoff spot.

Now they must decide what they value more as a franchise, and who gives them the best chance to fight for it.

You sink or swim with Richardson. You want to see more of that first half against the Steelers and those two slides this past weekend. I don't understand how so many can make such quick assessment of a player after 9 NFL starts. Thank God they aren't making NFL decisions.

 

[zeeshan2]

Anthony Richardson has just a 53.5% completion percentage through his first nine career games.

QBs who’ve been below that mark through nine career games since 2010:

Case Keenum (53.2%)
Bryce Petty (53.1%)
Nathan Peterman (52.6%)
Deshone Kizer (52.5%)
Josh Allen (52.4%)
Trace McSorley (51.6%)
Ryan Mallet (51.3%)
Malik Willis (50.8%)
Ryan Lindley (50.8%)
Jimmy Clausen (50.5%)
Tim Tebow (50.0%)
John Skelton (49.0%)
Blaine Gabbert (48.9%)

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[crushedspirit]

Colts are 4-3 and currently in contention for a shot at a playoff spot.

Now they must decide what they value more as a franchise, and who gives them the best chance to fight for it.

You sink or swim with Richardson. You want to see more of that first half against the Steelers and those two slides this past weekend. I don't understand how so many can make such quick assessment of a player after 9 NFL starts. Thank God they aren't making NFL decisions.

People pull the plug early because it's turned into a get right quick league mostly due to the inability to hang on to all their star players anymore. The days of 3 to 4 years of waiting for development are gone.

I don't know who Richardson can be in the future, but it's up to management to decide whether he's worth the wait and see approach.

 

[Joe Schmo]

Anthony Richardson has just a 53.5% completion percentage through his first nine career games.

QBs who’ve been below that mark through nine career games since 2010:


Nathan Peterman (52.6%)

Josh Allen (52.4%)

There's your benchmarks.

 

[JohnnyU]

Colts are 4-3 and currently in contention for a shot at a playoff spot.

Now they must decide what they value more as a franchise, and who gives them the best chance to fight for it.

You sink or swim with Richardson. You want to see more of that first half against the Steelers and those two slides this past weekend. I don't understand how so many can make such quick assessment of a player after 9 NFL starts. Thank God they aren't making NFL decisions.

People pull the plug early because it's turned into a get right quick league mostly due to the inability to hang on to all their star players anymore. The days of 3 to 4 years of waiting for development are gone.

I don't know who Richardson can be in the future, but it's up to management to decide whether he's worth the wait and see approach.

No one is saying 3 or 4 years. How about one full year of starts at the very least?

 

[menobrown]

You want to see more of that first half against the Steelers

You keep bringing this up but was not a half. It was not even two full drives. 12 plays and 3 pass completions to exact.

 

[floods]

Give him the rest of the season. See if that helps. You can't give up yet/right now.

But Man, he looks like s*** and I'm having a hard time believing this big of a project can be developed into anything, at this point.

Similar statements were made about Josh Allen before he transformed in his second and third years. But Richardson looks... bad. Significantly worse than Allen did.

 

[JohnnyU]

You want to see more of that first half against the Steelers

You keep bringing this up but was not a half. It was not even two full drives. 12 plays and 3 pass completions to exact.

I thought he looked very good in the run / pass option in the 1st qtr

 

[floods]

Give him the rest of the season. See if that helps. You can't give up yet/right now.

But Man, he looks like s*** and I'm having a hard time believing this big of a project can be developed into anything, at this point.

Similar statements were made about Josh Allen before he transformed in his second and third years. But Richardson looks... bad. Significantly worse than Allen did.

Actually, the more I look at it. Allen's first year may be the best comparison for Richardson as he currently stands. I'm not inferring Richardson will develop as Allen has, but that it's not without precedent if he does.

 

[-OZ-]

Colts are 4-3 and currently in contention for a shot at a playoff spot.

Now they must decide what they value more as a franchise, and who gives them the best chance to fight for it.

You sink or swim with Richardson. You want to see more of that first half against the Steelers and those two slides this past weekend. I don't understand how so many can make such quick assessment of a player after 9 NFL starts. Thank God they aren't making NFL decisions.

People pull the plug early because it's turned into a get right quick league mostly due to the inability to hang on to all their star players anymore. The days of 3 to 4 years of waiting for development are gone.

I don't know who Richardson can be in the future, but it's up to management to decide whether he's worth the wait and see approach.

Agree on not waiting 3 or 4 years. But one, maybe 2 seems reasonable to see what you can do with one of the most physically talented QBs in recent years.

 

[menobrown]

You want to see more of that first half against the Steelers

You keep bringing this up but was not a half. It was not even two full drives. 12 plays and 3 pass completions to exact.

I thought he looked very good in the 1st qtr

I will agree that drive + he looked good on those 3 passes he completed. It's just not much to stand on, maybe more of a sign of a good opening game script IMO but he did look good and I remember not starting him in a league and feeling like I had made a huge mistake before he went down.

 

[crushedspirit]

I agree with one season at the very least as the starter, but a QB needs to show improvement at some point in the process to continue with assessment for year two.

And Allen is a very good comp. He had a couple of good games during his first season with 11 starts, but they were sporadic. After that he became more settled and consistent in year two, especially after that NE debacle with 3 picks.

 

[JohnnyU]

I agree with one season at the very least as the starter, but a QB needs to show improvement at some point in the process to continue with assessment for year two.

I think he did two games ago. I also think proper scheming for AR is important, but yes, AR must improve as well. I wouldn't be opposed to more run / pass option and I would love for him to run more. I think it opens up other possibilities for success. I was also glad to see him slide some on those runs yesterday.

 

[rodalive]

Colts are 4-3 and currently in contention for a shot at a playoff spot.

Now they must decide what they value more as a franchise, and who gives them the best chance to fight for it.

You sink or swim with Richardson. You want to see more of that first half against the Steelers and those two slides this past weekend. I don't understand how so many can make such quick assessment of a player after 9 NFL starts. Thank God they aren't making NFL decisions.

Because the only thing you hang your hat on is a half he didn't s*** the bed and his improved sliding which you oddly find very important for a QB.

 

[rodalive]

I agree with one season at the very least as the starter, but a QB needs to show improvement at some point in the process to continue with assessment for year two.

He's getting worse, not helping to keep throwing him out there when he can't do his job.

 

[JohnnyU]

Colts are 4-3 and currently in contention for a shot at a playoff spot.

Now they must decide what they value more as a franchise, and who gives them the best chance to fight for it.

You sink or swim with Richardson. You want to see more of that first half against the Steelers and those two slides this past weekend. I don't understand how so many can make such quick assessment of a player after 9 NFL starts. Thank God they aren't making NFL decisions.

Because the only thing you hang your hat on is a half he didn't s*** the bed and his improved sliding which you oddly find very important for a QB.

I'm looking for any week-to-week improvement. Also, any improved sliding for a guy who is considered a good running QB is important.

 

[dkp993]

Dude make Justin Fields look accurate

 

[Faust]

Scott Barrett
Anthony Richardson's Catchable Throw Rate
+ @FantasyPtsData

On balls thrown...

1-9 yards in the air: 70.6% (worst of 37 qualifiers)
10-19 yards in the air: 62.1% (5th-worst)
20-39 yards in the air: 42.9% (5th-worst)
40+ yards in the air: 100.0% (best)

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[Faust]

Scott Rinear

It’s crazy that Anthony Richardson being healthy is having the same effect on the Colts’ passing game that Tua being hurt is having on the Dolphins’

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[BassNBrew]

I'll start this here before starting a new thread. Just read the Waldmen Gut check on Richardson and he may be the most pompous author I've read recently.

I've watched Richardson's nine games in the NFL. Nothing about his performance has me panicking. Analysts, former players, former coaches, and fans are more emboldened than ever to label Richardson as "raw."

I'm firm in my assessment that Richardson is not raw; he's inexperienced, and there's a big difference.

I don't even need to show you any film on Richardson. Doing so will just spark a debate about development potential that, when you boil it down, will tell you whether the people engaged in the debate have enough perspective on the matter at hand.

LOL that's funny.

He then goes on to point out some other QBs that started poorly and turned out good. Could have been a good article, but then he veers into throwing a 2x fantasy millionaire under the bus. I wonder if the 2x millionaire is trotting out stories about how he faded Bridgewater despite the leader of the herd championing him as the next Tom Brady for half a decade?

The Chargers beat the Ravens 23-17 in the playoffs. As the fourth quarter played out, I sat in a room with a bunch of football writers projecting tragedy for rookie Lamar Jackson's career.


One of them seated next to me -- a two-time millionaire prize winner in the high-stakes fantasy world -- declared that Jackson would never be a good quarterback. It was the consensus of the room.

I quietly asked him what he saw from this game that led him to this conclusion.

He gave an articulate answer that lacked an ounce of football substance. I realized this man was great at using data to play a game based on football, but at least in this instance, he had little depth of knowledge and perspective about quarterback development in the game that his game was based on.

This information wasn't necessary for him to know. It wasn't for most of the successful individuals in that room who had declared Jackson's career dead before it was truly getting started.

There was one other individual in that room who knew better. He was angry about what he saw. He vented to me privately. He was a good dynasty player, but he didn't have the perspective to think about what he saw, laugh at the mass panic, and enjoy the buying opportunity for what it was.

He was buying, but he was angry about the slights.

Most of the herd in that room weren't serious dynasty players. They have the luxury of waiting until the data tells them a player is on the upswing before declaring that the player is good.

In that respect, pure re-draft and DFS managers can behave like the economists of fantasy football. They can't tell you who is good or bad until there's enough data to confirm what those on the ground floor have already figured out it's too late to act on the information.

This perspective is why you should be enjoying the panic and the buying opportunity for Anthony Richardson.

By the way, the irony is not wasted on me that I'm sharing this story about Jackson a little more than 24 hours after he was 17-for-22 with 5 passing touchdowns and 333 yards from scrimmage on Monday Night Football. Jackson is the top passer in football this year, projected to earn 4,000 yards as a thrower and 1,000 as a runner.

Former Commanders' tight end Logan Paulson, who watched the Ravens-Commanders game from the sideline, told his followers on X and his podcast that Jackson's pre-snap command of defenses is now on par with Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. Joe Whitt, the Washington defensive coordinator, confirmed the same to Paulson after the game.

There was inherent bias clouding the public perspective on Jackson's potential, despite copious film evidence to the contrary. Despite playing in Bobby Petrino's offense at Louisville--widely considered an excellent pro-style offense that worked in the NFL.

Despite an easy opportunity to back out egregious drops from Jackson's completion percentage that should have mitigated concerns. And, despite even well-meaning scouts and football professionals who valued a lot of Jackson's potential as a quarterback, but unknowingly adopted a savior mentality--thinking Jackson would forever need a specialized offense to foster his gifts because he was too limited to become a true passer at the highest level.

It took prolonged negotiations over finances and schematic direction for the Baltimore Ravens to realize that Jackson was their savior, not the other way around.

Quarterback evaluation is difficult enough as it is. It's tougher when narratives are injected into the conversation. Unfortunately, most do so -- even those who think they are on the "right" side of societal arguments.

Bottom line he says stay the course with Richardson this year. We did get some nice stats sprinkled in showing Richardson has faced better than average denfenses to support his argument.

That's all fine. No problem with sharing your opinion as a fantasy football author. What I do find amusing is the continued shots at anyone who disagrees with him on any subject. Matt takes the art of being condescending to a whole new level in this article. He may want to go back and look at his re-draft rankings that had Richardson 2nd overall (followed by Mahomes at 3) ahead of Lamar with Daniels 21st just in front of Bryce Young.

Self proclaimed master comic collector Jagger May had Richardson at 7th and Daniels at 9th. Congrats to Victoria Geary who had Daniels at 8th in front of Richardson. I haven't check them all, but most every expert at footballguys had a better handle on the 2024 QB projections than Waldman. Makes you wonder if he has enough perspective on the matter at hand to be providing rankings to FF consumers.

 

[King of the Jungle]

I'll start this here before starting a new thread. Just read the Waldmen Gut check on Richardson and he may be the most pompous author I've read recently.

I've watched Richardson's nine games in the NFL. Nothing about his performance has me panicking. Analysts, former players, former coaches, and fans are more emboldened than ever to label Richardson as "raw."

I'm firm in my assessment that Richardson is not raw; he's inexperienced, and there's a big difference.

I don't even need to show you any film on Richardson. Doing so will just spark a debate about development potential that, when you boil it down, will tell you whether the people engaged in the debate have enough perspective on the matter at hand.

LOL that's funny.

He then goes on to point out some other QBs that started poorly and turned out good. Could have been a good article, but then he veers into throwing a 2x fantasy millionaire under the bus. I wonder if the 2x millionaire is trotting out stories about how he faded Bridgewater despite the leader of the herd championing him as the next Tom Brady for half a decade?

The Chargers beat the Ravens 23-17 in the playoffs. As the fourth quarter played out, I sat in a room with a bunch of football writers projecting tragedy for rookie Lamar Jackson's career.


One of them seated next to me -- a two-time millionaire prize winner in the high-stakes fantasy world -- declared that Jackson would never be a good quarterback. It was the consensus of the room.

I quietly asked him what he saw from this game that led him to this conclusion.

He gave an articulate answer that lacked an ounce of football substance. I realized this man was great at using data to play a game based on football, but at least in this instance, he had little depth of knowledge and perspective about quarterback development in the game that his game was based on.

This information wasn't necessary for him to know. It wasn't for most of the successful individuals in that room who had declared Jackson's career dead before it was truly getting started.

There was one other individual in that room who knew better. He was angry about what he saw. He vented to me privately. He was a good dynasty player, but he didn't have the perspective to think about what he saw, laugh at the mass panic, and enjoy the buying opportunity for what it was.

He was buying, but he was angry about the slights.

Most of the herd in that room weren't serious dynasty players. They have the luxury of waiting until the data tells them a player is on the upswing before declaring that the player is good.

In that respect, pure re-draft and DFS managers can behave like the economists of fantasy football. They can't tell you who is good or bad until there's enough data to confirm what those on the ground floor have already figured out it's too late to act on the information.

This perspective is why you should be enjoying the panic and the buying opportunity for Anthony Richardson.

By the way, the irony is not wasted on me that I'm sharing this story about Jackson a little more than 24 hours after he was 17-for-22 with 5 passing touchdowns and 333 yards from scrimmage on Monday Night Football. Jackson is the top passer in football this year, projected to earn 4,000 yards as a thrower and 1,000 as a runner.

Former Commanders' tight end Logan Paulson, who watched the Ravens-Commanders game from the sideline, told his followers on X and his podcast that Jackson's pre-snap command of defenses is now on par with Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. Joe Whitt, the Washington defensive coordinator, confirmed the same to Paulson after the game.

There was inherent bias clouding the public perspective on Jackson's potential, despite copious film evidence to the contrary. Despite playing in Bobby Petrino's offense at Louisville--widely considered an excellent pro-style offense that worked in the NFL.

Despite an easy opportunity to back out egregious drops from Jackson's completion percentage that should have mitigated concerns. And, despite even well-meaning scouts and football professionals who valued a lot of Jackson's potential as a quarterback, but unknowingly adopted a savior mentality--thinking Jackson would forever need a specialized offense to foster his gifts because he was too limited to become a true passer at the highest level.

It took prolonged negotiations over finances and schematic direction for the Baltimore Ravens to realize that Jackson was their savior, not the other way around.

Quarterback evaluation is difficult enough as it is. It's tougher when narratives are injected into the conversation. Unfortunately, most do so -- even those who think they are on the "right" side of societal arguments.

Bottom line he says stay the course with Richardson this year. We did get some nice stats sprinkled in showing Richardson has faced better than average denfenses to support his argument.

That's all fine. No problem with sharing your opinion as a fantasy football author. What I do find amusing is the continued shots at anyone who disagrees with him on any subject. Matt takes the art of being condescending to a whole new level in this article. He may want to go back and look at his re-draft rankings that had Richardson 2nd overall (followed by Mahomes at 3) ahead of Lamar with Daniels 21st just in front of Bryce Young.

Self proclaimed master comic collector Jagger May had Richardson at 7th and Daniels at 9th. Congrats to Victoria Geary who had Daniels at 8th in front of Richardson. I haven't check them all, but most every expert at footballguys had a better handle on the 2024 QB projections than Waldman. Makes you wonder if he has enough perspective on the matter at hand to be providing rankings to FF consumers.

I respect Waldman as he has an outside of the box way of identifying talent that is not your cookie-cutter ranking. He has given me an advantage in dynasty leagues getting talent that the majority is not as high on. Has he been wrong? Of course, everyone is at times. However, he does seem to have a hard time letting go of some of his takes and it can be tough to digest after a certain point.

 

[Tigerpop]

He also once said David Johnson would be a bust

 

[taylormeetstheismann]

Richardson is just 22 years old. That’s about all you need to know. He’s supremely talented and very young. Let’s give him a year or two.

 

[zamboni]

Richardson is just 22 years old. That’s about all you need to know. He’s supremely talented and very young. Let’s give him a year or two.

If he were putting up decent fantasy stats despite his real life struggles, the fantasy community wouldn’t be bashing him so badly. But he's obviously not. Even Tim Tebow was a good fantasy QB - would be nice to see something like that even if he can’t hit the broad side of a barn.

 

[Uncle Leo]

2 for 13 ! How is that even possible?

 

[crushedspirit]

He sat last year due to injury and was apparently learning weekly.

I just don't see any progress at all.

 

[WaltonGoggins]

Thank you AR for free TD but please Colts do NOT start Joe second half!

 

[JohnnyU]

I wonder if Flacco replaces him in the 2nd half. But that was horrible coaching by Steichen right there.

 

[N Zone]

I wonder if Flacco replaces him in the 2nd half. But that was horrible coaching by Steichen right there.

I feel they should and will stick with Richardson. 30 seconds or so and they think a short pass like that from the 10 is the answer, not just running or kneeling there was a bad coaching decision.

 

[ffmail4me]

Hard to believe he was drafted over several qbs in fantasy this year. He’s so inaccurate

 

[N Zone]

Hard to believe he was drafted over several qbs in fantasy this year. He’s so inaccurate

Who was he drafter over?
edit: nevermind, I was thinking about the actual NFL draft in 2023 (Will Levis and Aidan O'Connell) but realize now you said Fantasy this year.

 

[Uncle Leo]

4/17…I guess better than 2/13, right?

 

[N Zone]

4/17…I guess better than 2/13, right?

5/19 which is 3/6 since he was 2/13. Someone mentioned he's thrown a deep a lot and some were very near misses. I always evaluate QBs on yards per attempt first, TDs, INTs. Rushing yards. Completion percentage would be last on the list.

 

[dkp993]

4/17…I guess better than 2/13, right?

5/19 which is 3/6 since he was 2/13. Someone mentioned he's thrown a deep a lot and some were very near misses. I always evaluate QBs on yards per attempt first, TDs, INTs. Rushing yards. Completion percentage would be last on the list.

In this game he has a lower yards per attempt than JT does rush per attempt. He’s an embarrassment.

 

[N Zone]

4/17…I guess better than 2/13, right?

5/19 which is 3/6 since he was 2/13. Someone mentioned he's thrown a deep a lot and some were very near misses. I always evaluate QBs on yards per attempt first, TDs, INTs. Rushing yards. Completion percentage would be last on the list.

In this game he has a lower yards per attempt than JT does rush per attempt. He’s an embarrassment.

That's fine if you think so, I do not. It's a very small sample size and he needs more game experience. I still think he has a lot of ability and will improve given a full season or two.

 

[N Zone]

CJ Stroud last week.
10/21 86 yards 47.6 completion percentage 4.1 yards per attempt.
We're you guys in the Stroud thread saying he's horrible last week? I realize he's been much more productive, but think two and a half bad quarters or even 1/4th of a season is not enough sample size on AR,

 

[Uncle Leo]

How can anyone defend this dude? He cannot make accurate passes. Is it that hard to see?

 

[dkp993]

4/17…I guess better than 2/13, right?

5/19 which is 3/6 since he was 2/13. Someone mentioned he's thrown a deep a lot and some were very near misses. I always evaluate QBs on yards per attempt first, TDs, INTs. Rushing yards. Completion percentage would be last on the list.

In this game he has a lower yards per attempt than JT does rush per attempt. He’s an embarrassment.

That's fine if you think so, I do not. It's a very small sample size and he needs more game experience. I still think he has a lot of ability and will improve given a full season or two.

He makes Fields look accurate and like a world class decision maker.

 

[N Zone]

He just threw a 30 yard pass to the 1.

 

[BladeRunner]

He just threw a touchdown pass. 30 yards.

negative. reversed.

9 of 26. Just terrible.

 

[pollardsvision]

Two dimes there. Goodson dropped one then Downs made a hell of a catch.

Colts are in a tough spot. He's got so much ability, but needs more experience. It would have been great if he'd stayed at Florida another year.

His lack of experience makes it so much harder for a team to give up on him (as opposed to Bryce). I'd love to see Flacco, but I get why Colts have to do it this way.

I just hope the Colts brass has made it clear to Steichen that it won't cost him his job to do it this way.

 

[dipandglide]

Did people not know Arich was a raw prospect? The results have been mixed, but that was to be expected.

 

[dkp993]

It’s all deep ball or nothing. He has to see it open, has zero anticipation. Looked completely lost on that last crucial drive. Get a huge turnover then go backwards. Big arm but lacks the important parts that make QB’s successful.