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QB Baker Mayfield, TB (2 Viewers)
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Bracie Smathers
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Tom Withers@twithersAP
Stefanski said starting QB decision has not yet been made. He has confidence in Case Keenum and “all the backups.”
Stefanski said starting QB decision has not yet been made. He has confidence in Case Keenum and “all the backups.”
Knowing this I was shocked he came back in the game after the way he fell on it. I'll be equally shocked if they don't shut him down for awhile to heal.
amnesiac
beer is good
He’s already said publicly he wants to play Thursday.
I think they should just him down for at least a week.
What’s the point of paying Keenum if they let Mayfield play injured on a short week?
Bracie Smathers
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It was floating this morning that #Browns QB Baker Mayfield was not going to play even after the confidence he expressed to the media that he would. My understanding is Mayfield is dealing w/ more than just a torn labrum & that became more prevalent this am too per league source.
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Torn rotor cuff????
It was floating this morning that #Browns QB Baker Mayfield was not going to play even after the confidence he expressed to the media that he would. My understanding is Mayfield is dealing w/ more than just a torn labrum & that became more prevalent this am too per league source.
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Torn rotor cuff????
LawFitz
Footballguy
This needs to be a case where some adults in the room stand up and shut this guy down to protect him from himself. Love Baker's mentality here, but it's a detremint in this instance. Shut it down at least for a 3-week IR stint to start and then reassess if coming back is
a. realistic from a health perspective, and
b. worthwhile, based on the Browns record and playoff hopes at that point.
Anyone who saw the way he landed this past weekend (on an already torn-up shoulder) knows that thing is absolutely shredded now. The shoulder isn't meant to move like that.
a. realistic from a health perspective, and
b. worthwhile, based on the Browns record and playoff hopes at that point.
Anyone who saw the way he landed this past weekend (on an already torn-up shoulder) knows that thing is absolutely shredded now. The shoulder isn't meant to move like that.
themeistersinger
Footballguy
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32448198/cleveland-browns-qb-baker-mayfield-says-shoulder-fracture-addition-torn-labrum
Cleveland Browns quarterback Baker Mayfield told Fox Sports he he suffered a tuberosity fracture in his left shoulder, in addition to the torn labrum.
Cleveland Browns quarterback Baker Mayfield told Fox Sports he he suffered a tuberosity fracture in his left shoulder, in addition to the torn labrum.
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
4 to 6 MONTHS if/when he gets surgery and that is the BEST CASE scenario if he doesn't dislocate or further injure the shoulder because that would cause bone loss and permanent damage.
Looking very-much like we should shut him down and get the surgery done NOW where he can't do further damage and where he'd be ready for next season. Doubtful he'd get heeled enough at the right time to win playoff gameS so why waste a roster spot and do permanent damage?
Baker Mayfield needs 4-6 months to recover from shoulder surgery if it doesn’t get worse, surgeon says; Fracture is non-displaced
Shut him down, just shut him down to save himself from himself.
DallasDMac
Footballguy
100% agree with the bolded. I'm glad Mayfield is motivated and wants to play, that's the attitude you want to see out of your QB. But I hope the STAFF does THEIR job and doesn't mortgage the future by being reckless with his health.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
I have a history of these same injuries, including the bone loss permanent damage. Everything I've seen in these articles echoes the medical advice that I've received over the years. I shudder every time I see Mayfield take one of these hits - I couldn't even watch the replay of the one from last week because you just tell the way his arm was extended when he went down.....that's a dislocation.
I've tried a shoulder harness, which Mayfield has been wearing, and like the article says, it really doesn't do much to hold the shoulder in place. It's better than nothing, but it's not a miracle cure - clearly, because he's dislocated twice since the initial injury.
The good news is that in the long-term, if you can get the surgery soon, without doing any more damage, it has a better chance of a permanent fix. But the more he goes out there and keeps injuring it, the more risk he's running in the long-term. Then again, he's also paid millions to play football - just a hazard of the profession when it's a non-throwing shoulder.
Either way he's a tough son of a #####.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Visual evidence of how the shoulder injury is affecting Baker Mayfield's throwing motion.
See how HIGH his NON-throwing shoulder is when he was healthy as he throws.
HEALTHY SHOULDER throwing motion:
Now look at how low and tucked-in his NON-throwing injured-shoulder is when he attempts a throw.
Obviously he can't follow-through the way he can with a healthy shoulder which affects the accuracy of any throw but ESPECIALLY with deeper throws because for every degree of depth the accuracy will decrease by multiples if the release point is off.
See how HIGH his NON-throwing shoulder is when he was healthy as he throws.
HEALTHY SHOULDER throwing motion:
Now look at how low and tucked-in his NON-throwing injured-shoulder is when he attempts a throw.
Obviously he can't follow-through the way he can with a healthy shoulder which affects the accuracy of any throw but ESPECIALLY with deeper throws because for every degree of depth the accuracy will decrease by multiples if the release point is off.
beer 30
Footballguy
Just announced as starter.
Personally think it's a mistake but my guess is, he has one more chance to prove he can deal with it and still win a game. PIT will be trying like hell to take him out so the situation will probably resolve itself in game as I think one good shot and he's done. If CLE wins the game and he doesn't cost them then this is what it's going to look like for the rest of the season until he gets shut down, either willingly or via a hit on the field. My
Personally think it's a mistake but my guess is, he has one more chance to prove he can deal with it and still win a game. PIT will be trying like hell to take him out so the situation will probably resolve itself in game as I think one good shot and he's done. If CLE wins the game and he doesn't cost them then this is what it's going to look like for the rest of the season until he gets shut down, either willingly or via a hit on the field. My
The Frankman
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Godsbrother
Footballguy
If he is THE guy in CLE and will be there for a long time the Brows are going to have to pony up some cash.
As a Steelers fan I am 100% behind Baker's quest for a huge contract extension.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
nature of the game. every QB is going to get paid. he wont and he KNOWS he wont get top $. but he'll get paid like any QB who extends past his rookie deal is.
cap going to increase yr by yr, so it is what it is. the contract worries me very little.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
And Browns fans LOVE what the Steelers have done to address their QB position.
Mmmmwaaa Chef's kiss.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
You won't be laughing when Mason Rudolph takes us to the Super Bowl next year.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Don't you mean Aaron Rodgers?You won't be laughing when Mason Rudolph takes us to the Super Bowl next year.
MAC_32
Footballguy
At some point, yes, the Browns will likely have to allocate a substantial portion of their budget to him in order to retain his services for the foreseeable future. I don't think that time is now nor do I think it is likely to be revisited this offseason unless Baker's contract demands migrate towards the Browns existing offer. I think the most likely scenario is Baker betting on himself in his option year with the long term contract being addressed no earlier than sometime during 2022 - and more likely after with the franchise tag option available in the back pocket (if he earns it).
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amnesiac
beer is good
nope. if you tell me you're healthy enough to play, you have to play well.
if you're too injured to play, sit on the bench and let the backup play.
DallasDMac
Footballguy
Those types of comments don't help. Those fans are the reason he has a job that pays him millions of dollars. He just sounds like a child throwing a tantrum.
amnesiac
beer is good
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
amnesiac
beer is good
I don’t think so?
I was just saying that he didn’t do his presser, so I can only imagine what he would’ve said right after the game, if this was what he said after he cooled down for a day?
what’s the Tim Couch thing?
MAC_32
Footballguy
Some fans cheered when he was injured during a game. Same thing happened with DA too.
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
https://www.cleveland19.com/story/962952/couch-goes-off-on-booing-browns-fans/
He was concussed during the game and someone interviewed him right after. I really thought that is what you were referring to.
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