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QB Baker Mayfield, TB (1 Viewer)

Seattle and Carolina basically.

I'm starting to buy (what I thought was just trying not to insult a player on the way out) that SF will actually keep Jimmy G. 

Tampa Bay would be an interesting landing spot for Mayfield. Basically a better version of what Trubisky did a year ago, only unlike Josh Allen, Tom Brady might not be there in 2023?
HA!  How about Jimmy G to Tampa to back up Brady?  I assume that SF would not eat enough salary to make it happen (and I assume they could eat part or all of the contract, but I have no usefuly salary cap  skills beyond basic arithmetic)

 
I'm starting to think teams are just waiting for him to be released, and know that Cleveland basically has to do so, so why give up anything?

I also think there will be a decent market for him in that case, and probably including teams who already made moves at QB.

I could see:

Atlanta=More likely to go Malik Willis at #8 in my opinion, but you never know. I think Mariota was more of a make sure we at least have somebody useable signing.

Carolina=Might go QB at 6, but I think if they can get Baker on a cheaper, incentive laden deal to "compete" with Darnold, it'd be a good value.

Houston=Why trade for a guy you are certain you can get for free? Mills rookie stats look ok, but they were almost all acquired in a dink and dunk fashion against prevent defenses. 

NYG=This new staff has no ties to Jones, and Tyrod is just a backup, one who has already backed up Mayfield.

Philly=Hurts had a decent year, but he's still more gimmick than QB. Minshew is a backup, and in a contract year. Mayfield could compete to start, and allows them to not spend any of their three 1sts on a QB.

Pittsburgh=Trubisky signed relatively cheap, and isn't promised anything. I think they are more likely to draft a QB at #20, but it'd be some fun irony if they brought in Mayfield and he rallied the enemy. As a Bears fan 1st and a Steelers fan 2nd, I think Mayfield is much better than Mitch or 2021 Ben.

Seattle=The most logical landing spot, Mayfield is a much better QB than Lock, and is only slightly older. I have a hard time seeing Pete Carroll committing to a full rebuild at 71 years old. 

Tampa Bay=There were some rumors they had interest in Mayfield before Brady returned. Now that he'll be free to acquire, I wonder if they could get him as an elite backup/heir apparent?

 
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Man without a team......currently, but that could change.  Seattle or Carolina anyone?  Wouldn't it be funny if he's stuck as a backup somewhere?

 
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I'd bet almost anything he wont be released
A lot of chatter, that they may have to give up a pick to deal Mayfield, because teams are 100% certain they'll never keep him, and would rather sign Mayfield to their own contract than pay 18 million. Could just be chatter though, it often is this time of year. 

Its so crazy to me, that guys like Trubisky and Mariota, are getting 2nd chances, and Wentz is getting a 3rd chance, but the guy who led his team to the best season they'd had in 30 years is just hanging around. 

Its funny, up until a week or so ago, I didn't really think I was a huge Mayfield guy, thought he was in the QB15-20 range, but I feel like I'm his biggest fan now. 

 
It would be better for the organization to give up a pick and trade him than release him and take a 18 million dead money hit.  

That said, someone will trade something for him

 
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A lot of chatter, that they may have to give up a pick to deal Mayfield, because teams are 100% certain they'll never keep him, and would rather sign Mayfield to their own contract than pay 18 million. Could just be chatter though, it often is this time of year. 

Its so crazy to me, that guys like Trubisky and Mariota, are getting 2nd chances, and Wentz is getting a 3rd chance, but the guy who led his team to the best season they'd had in 30 years is just hanging around. 

Its funny, up until a week or so ago, I didn't really think I was a huge Mayfield guy, thought he was in the QB15-20 range, but I feel like I'm his biggest fan now. 
They don't save any money by cutting him, so they may as well keep him. That's why they have to trade him. 

Cutting him means they have an 18 mill cap hit, and an empty roster spot. 

 
A lot of chatter, that they may have to give up a pick to deal Mayfield, because teams are 100% certain they'll never keep him, and would rather sign Mayfield to their own contract than pay 18 million. Could just be chatter though, it often is this time of year. 

Its so crazy to me, that guys like Trubisky and Mariota, are getting 2nd chances, and Wentz is getting a 3rd chance, but the guy who led his team to the best season they'd had in 30 years is just hanging around. 

Its funny, up until a week or so ago, I didn't really think I was a huge Mayfield guy, thought he was in the QB15-20 range, but I feel like I'm his biggest fan now. 
Well those guys were available- Baker wasn’t at the time for Pittsburgh and the Falcons are likely drafting a QB so why trade for Baker?

 
Falcons/Panthers/Seahawks
No chance for Atlanta. They didn’t sign MM just to trade for Baker. 

A lot of chatter, that they may have to give up a pick to deal Mayfield, because teams are 100% certain they'll never keep him, and would rather sign Mayfield to their own contract than pay 18 million. Could just be chatter though, it often is this time of year. 

Its so crazy to me, that guys like Trubisky and Mariota, are getting 2nd chances, and Wentz is getting a 3rd chance, but the guy who led his team to the best season they'd had in 30 years is just hanging around. 

Its funny, up until a week or so ago, I didn't really think I was a huge Mayfield guy, thought he was in the QB15-20 range, but I feel like I'm his biggest fan now. 
mariotta getting a second chance isn’t surprising. Especially in Atlanta. Otherwise Agreed. Seattle should be interested imo. 

 
Sam Darnold went for a 2nd and 4th last year.

Interesting that the guy who drafted him is a consultant for the Lions, I'm sure Dorsey who used the first pick of the draft would see a bargain.

IF the Browns trade him, they will have to eat a large portion of his salary.  I haven't heard a thing about the Lions being interested but I have to think they would be weighing taking a QB high in this draft or getting a cheap flyer who was drafted by a guy in their FO who obviously liked him better than any QB in a loaded draft class. 

Dorsey is the guy who moved-up to draft Mahomes, so he carries 'some' weight.  

 
Sam Darnold went for a 2nd and 4th last year.

Interesting that the guy who drafted him is a consultant for the Lions, I'm sure Dorsey who used the first pick of the draft would see a bargain.

IF the Browns trade him, they will have to eat a large portion of his salary.  I haven't heard a thing about the Lions being interested but I have to think they would be weighing taking a QB high in this draft or getting a cheap flyer who was drafted by a guy in their FO who obviously liked him better than any QB in a loaded draft class. 

Dorsey is the guy who moved-up to draft Mahomes, so he carries 'some' weight.  
Huh. Hadn't thought about the Dorsey connection. Seems like if he took Mayfield first, he might still have confirmation bias towards him. Interesting. I thought, however, that the Mayfield decision was analytics-driven rather than typical scouting. His completion comps and other stats were through the roof, and Cleveland was using PFF-style statistics in their methodology of selecting players.  

And if that happens, what to do with Goff, then? 

 
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I just looked it up. The Mayfield decision was not necessarily analytics-driven. He apparently wowed Dorsey in his interview and meeting with the team. Dorsey actually clashed with Paul DePodesta, a numbers guy who was in the Cleveland front office. It led to his firing by the owner. 

 
Considering there are so few teams i the market, and he's only on a one year deal, the best CLE can hope for is a conditional pick. Try and get an upgrade if he is tagged or signed beyond 2022.

A 3rd rounder that becomes a 2, or a 2 that can become a 1. 

Seems worth the risk.

 
Considering there are so few teams i the market, and he's only on a one year deal, the best CLE can hope for is a conditional pick. Try and get an upgrade if he is tagged or signed beyond 2022.

A 3rd rounder that becomes a 2, or a 2 that can become a 1. 

Seems worth the risk.
I think the way it plays out is the Browns eat a large portion of his contract to make it easy to take on his salary and get one mid/late pick this year with a conditional pick next year.

I like Baker's arm and think last year when he was clearly injured.  What we saw last year has to be put into context as both Browns starting OTs and the swing OT were injured with a WR he never jibbed with and where the other starting WR was healthy only two games.  

If he gets a shot, he's going to move heaven-and-earth to win games.  By this time next year his value will significantly increase.  If someone takes a shot, it will pay off IMHO.

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If the trade assets are equal, I'd rather have Baker Mayfield than Jimmy Garoppolo. Could Baker have done with the 49ers what Jimmy has? Absolutely, and more.

 
I just looked it up. The Mayfield decision was not necessarily analytics-driven. He apparently wowed Dorsey in his interview and meeting with the team. Dorsey actually clashed with Paul DePodesta, a numbers guy who was in the Cleveland front office. It led to his firing by the owner. 
I'm not sure why an interview would carry so much weight. If I were in charge, I would use analytics and film study like Chris Simms does. A reminder about Simms' 2018 ratings:

"Lamar 1, Allen 2, Mayfield 3, Darnold 4, Rosen 5." - Chris Simms ranks the top Draft QBs on @dpshow"

I don't recall what he said about Mayfield, but he liked Lamar's ability to throw both long passes and touch passes, in addition to the obvious athleticism. Some pundits said Jackson would be better at WR. Simms likes QBs who can stretch the defenses, like Allen, but he also had Mac Jones ranked high in 2021 because of accuracy.

https://twitter.com/andrewperloff/status/969217780057870336?t=AKydTHNDwe_s-MqHXbt2Bw&s=19

 
Not sure how much stock to put into mock drafts but of the teams who haven't landed a 'starting caliber' QB many assume they'll take a QB in the 1st round.

This one has FOUR QUARERBACKS taken before a dozen picks are made.

1-Round 2022 NFL Mock Draft: Do the Falcons target Matt Ryan’s replacement? Can the Seahawks replace Russell Wilson?

2) Detroit Lions: Malik Willis, QB, Liberty

6) Carolina Panthers: Sam Howell, QB, North Carolina

9) Seattle Seahawks (from DEN): Kenny Pickett, QB, Pittsburgh

11) Washington Commanders: Matt Corral, QB, Ole Miss

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Field Yates@FieldYates

It’s pretty crazy that between 2006-2016 there were 29 QBs taken in the first round and exactly zero of them are still with their original team.

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I'd take a cheap flyer on Mayfield over using a 1st round pick on a QB in this class other than Malik Willis but he is not a guy I would want to start this year so I STILL would take a flyer on Mayfield AND take Willis if I wanted to address QB.

 
Not sure how much stock to put into mock drafts but of the teams who haven't landed a 'starting caliber' QB many assume they'll take a QB in the 1st round.

This one has FOUR QUARERBACKS taken before a dozen picks are made.

1-Round 2022 NFL Mock Draft: Do the Falcons target Matt Ryan’s replacement? Can the Seahawks replace Russell Wilson?

2) Detroit Lions: Malik Willis, QB, Liberty

6) Carolina Panthers: Sam Howell, QB, North Carolina

9) Seattle Seahawks (from DEN): Kenny Pickett, QB, Pittsburgh

11) Washington Commanders: Matt Corral, QB, Ole Miss

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Field Yates@FieldYates

It’s pretty crazy that between 2006-2016 there were 29 QBs taken in the first round and exactly zero of them are still with their original team.

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I'd take a cheap flyer on Mayfield over using a 1st round pick on a QB in this class other than Malik Willis but he is not a guy I would want to start this year so I STILL would take a flyer on Mayfield AND take Willis if I wanted to address QB.
It's hard to plan your draft a year in advance, but the 2023 QB class might be very good. Some teams might be better off taking BPA in 2022 and hoping to get a high draft selection in 2023. 

 
:lmao:

-They would have to pay him $18M to keep him on the roster, that's never happening. Cleveland absolutely must trade him because the cap hit if they release him outright also cripples the team and what they can do in 2022, they want to win right now, that's why they got Watson...that and he's a Top3 QB but aside from all that, in order to have a clean cap hit that maximizes their money this year, trade trade trade is optimal and really the only way out of this mess for them. 

-Knowing they MUST TRADE BAKER, do you think any GM is going to trade a 1st? Forget that he isn't even worth a 1st round pick, although some argue he was decent his first 2-3 years and he's way better than several potential starting QBs right now. There is definitely a market for his services, at least for 1 year to see if they want to extend him. 

What is he worth in reality, if Cleveland weren't over a barrel in trading him? Would a team trade a 2nd or a 3rd for Baker? I would say with Cleveland in such a jam right now, a team could offer a conditional 4th or 5th right now and acquire Baker which might seem like a bloodbath but honestly the Browns made Baker worth nothing the minute they traded for Watson. They can't expect under any team to trade a 1st, totally laughable at this point. 

Some wouldn't trade for Baker at all. I think there is a certain Mason-Dixon line where teams would start kicking tires or say let's give it a chance with a low to mid round investment that can't hurt us much. 

 
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It's hard to plan your draft a year in advance, but the 2023 QB class might be very good. Some teams might be better off taking BPA in 2022 and hoping to get a high draft selection in 2023
That is the issue, isn't it?

If you take BPA then your team lands a 'good' starter helping you WIN more games this year, in effect hurting your draft position next year.

Cleveland absolutely must trade him because the cap hit if they release him outright also cripples the team and what they can do in 2022, they want to win right now,
Not really.

Browns would carry-over $12.5 million in cap to next year right now, essentially a 'net-gain' of $25 million of cap in 2023.

By only making Watson's base salary $1 million this year with the rest a signing bonus they 'covered' him because they KNOW he WILL be suspended this year.  They haven't gone 'all-in' the FA route this year because they don't know how long Watson will be out, and Jacoby Brisset isn't going to win a lot of games.  

They obviously want to win now but they know Watson will be suspended and have planned accordingly.  Next year, they go all-in.

As far as Baker is concerned, he holds zero leverage.  The Browns have been very-fare to FAs and veterans and put up with quite a bit, see OBJ last year but it would be wise for Mayfield to hold his tongue because if he causes trouble the Browns don't have to trade him and hold all of the cards.

I suspect they will eat a large portion of salary and deal him, and he'll play better than people expect but they don't have to trade him.

 
If you take BPA then your team lands a 'good' starter helping you WIN more games this year, in effect hurting your draft position next year.
I don't think that anyone, in any situation, would argue against taking the BPA, though. 

That's sort of a silly scenario. 

What you don't do is trade for Mayfield as a stop-gap only to watch him lead your team to victories that guys at other positions can't (the wins above replacement numbers for QB performance dwarfs that of other positions) or couldn't have caused. A safety has less WAR than a QB, by far. If you add Baker to a floundering team, you may pick up six or seven wins on the year, whereas adding a safety has much less impact on the win total.

 
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I don't think that anyone, in any situation, would argue against taking the BPA, though. 

That's sort of a silly scenario. 

What you don't do is trade for Mayfield as a stop-gap only to watch him lead your team to victories that guys at other positions can't (the wins above replacement numbers for QB performance dwarfs that of other positions).
Its a Catch22 as far as taking BPA.

Per Mayfield, I think his value will increase on a minimal investment.  I'd view him as a tradeable asset.  

Baker performs very-well from a clean pocket so look at teams with solid offensive lines who also need a QB

One team stands out.  Detroit

They have holes over the rest of there roster so Baker could perform very-well and increase his tradeable value without a significant bump in win totals.  

 
Its a Catch22 as far as taking BPA.
Indeed. If you improve too much and are looking toward the next year, you're still not in the running for a top QB. 

Baker performs very-well from a clean pocket
I think you're right. Or at least a quick glance sort of gives one that impression. 

One team stands out.  Detroit
I really hadn't thought about them. Glad you pointed it out upthread. 

 
I really hadn't thought about them. Glad you pointed it out upthread. 
Goff and Baker seem to be basically the same QB - good enough to win with a good supporting cast, but not quite good enough to carry a team. Detroit isn't trading for Baker. They have their stop gap already and will look to find a franchise QB in this draft or the next. 

 
Goff and Baker seem to be basically the same QB - good enough to win with a good supporting cast, but not quite good enough to carry a team. Detroit isn't trading for Baker. They have their stop gap already and will look to find a franchise QB in this draft or the next. 
Baker is a better QB by most measurements, but I concede your point. They probably do have their stop-gap guy.

Like I asked upthread, what would you do with Goff and say to your team if you've basically anointed him your leader during a rebuild? Everybody knows they're in a rebuild, so...what's to gain by disrupting the familial atmosphere Detroit has going on under Dan Campbell. That'd be a tough sell. 

 
Baker is a better QB by most measurements, but I concede your point. They probably do have their stop-gap guy.

Like I asked upthread, what would you do with Goff and say to your team if you've basically anointed him your leader during a rebuild? Everybody knows they're in a rebuild, so...what's to gain by disrupting the familial atmosphere Detroit has going on under Dan Campbell. That'd be a tough sell. 
That's debate-able (although I agree) but not really the point. There's no reason to pursue a slightly better option at the cost of (any) draft pick when you have basically the same guy already on your roster - especially when a team is rebuilding.

I don't like to speak in absolutes when it comes to football - but I don't see that as realistic at all and any "connecting of the dots" is tenuous at best.

 
Goff and Baker seem to be basically the same QB
Don't know enough about Goff but Dorsey, the guy who took Baker number-one overall is in Detroit. 

Add, I've heard the Dan Cambell is the sort of HC who would fit Baker's aggressive mentality.  Don't know what sort of chemistry Goff has had with Cambell but think Baker would be a good fit and be 'his-type' of guy.

Again, I've heard no whispers, but it seems like a good fit to me which means it probably won't happen, lol.

 
Goff and Baker seem to be basically the same QB - good enough to win with a good supporting cast, but not quite good enough to carry a team. Detroit isn't trading for Baker. They have their stop gap already and will look to find a franchise QB in this draft or the next. 
I might be delusional but think Baker still could be good enough to carry a team. Goff isn’t. 
i completely agree that Detroit is far more likely to get another high pick next year and take their guy then. 
Baker’s only shot imo is Seattle. But would Carroll really go for it?

 
So they have to get rid of Baker to free up cap space for this year, however, it makes sense to wait till we see what, if any, suspension Watson gets.

If Watson gets an 8 game suspension then it doesnt really make much sense for us to go all in on free agency this year, which means we would be in no rush to move Baker.

If they come out today and say no suspension, then it would make sense to get rid of Baker ASAP and sign remaining free agents.  

So yeah, Baker not likely to go anywhere until a potential suspension is hashed out.  Frankly, come the F on NFL, how much more investigating do you need to do?  

 
That is the issue, isn't it?

If you take BPA then your team lands a 'good' starter helping you WIN more games this year, in effect hurting your draft position next year.

Not really.

Browns would carry-over $12.5 million in cap to next year right now, essentially a 'net-gain' of $25 million of cap in 2023.

By only making Watson's base salary $1 million this year with the rest a signing bonus they 'covered' him because they KNOW he WILL be suspended this year.  They haven't gone 'all-in' the FA route this year because they don't know how long Watson will be out, and Jacoby Brisset isn't going to win a lot of games.  

They obviously want to win now but they know Watson will be suspended and have planned accordingly.  Next year, they go all-in.

As far as Baker is concerned, he holds zero leverage.  The Browns have been very-fare to FAs and veterans and put up with quite a bit, see OBJ last year but it would be wise for Mayfield to hold his tongue because if he causes trouble the Browns don't have to trade him and hold all of the cards.

I suspect they will eat a large portion of salary and deal him, and he'll play better than people expect but they don't have to trade him.
I like the way you break it down but let's unpack "not really" vs I will say "really"

-You do understand that if they trade him for any Draft pick that he comes off their books nice and tidy, clean off their books and they move one, Baker moves on, you get this part I'm sure?

-I want to separate that from what you are suggesting or hinting which is entirely different but yet I see where you are wanting to connect this so it's fascinating. I want to make sure I have this straight...you are saying that Watson will miss 8 games lets say and up to the entire season? And then I am to assume you think they will start Baker Mayfield after all of this while the guy running him out of town is serving a sexual assault suspension from Roger Goodell? Just imagine the optics of that when one of these fruit loops in the booth is trying to call a Cleveland game on Sunday afternoons. 

There's two things going on here and they come to an intersection at Baker and Mayfield but what you are suggesting that the Cleveland front office is wanting to do, that's not going to play out well. The media would have a field day with it and the pressure would mount quickly and perhaps push Goodell to administer a stiffer punishment that extends beyond just 2022, something where Watson will have to re-apply to be a part of the NFL. You see Baker does have some leverage even if not directly from his own whining.  

 
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perhaps push Goodell to administer a stiffer punishment that extends beyond just 2022, something where Watson will have to re-apply to be a part of the NFL. You see Baker does have some leverage even if not directly from his own whining.  
No. Goodell isn't basing his suspension on the Browns situation if they indeed hold on to Mayfield as a QB. Let me get this straight: You're saying media and public pressure will lead Goodell to retract a suspension levied and then add time because of the optics of the Mayfield situation. 

No way. 

 
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I like the way you break it down but let's unpack "not really" vs I will say "really"

-You do understand that if they trade him for any Draft pick that he comes off their books nice and tidy, clean off their books and they move one, Baker moves on, you get this part I'm sure?

-I want to separate that from what you are suggesting or hinting which is entirely different but yet I see where you are wanting to connect this so it's fascinating. I want to make sure I have this straight...you are saying that Watson will miss 8 games lets say and up to the entire season? And then I am to assume you think they will start Baker Mayfield after all of this while the guy running him out of town is serving a sexual assault suspension from Roger Goodell? Just imagine the optics of that when one of these fruit loops in the booth is trying to call a Cleveland game on Sunday afternoons. 

There's two things going on here and they come to an intersection at Baker and Mayfield but what you are suggesting that the Cleveland front office is wanting to do, that's not going to play out well. The media would have a field day with it and the pressure would mount quickly and perhaps push Goodell to administer a stiffer punishment that extends beyond just 2022, something where Watson will have to re-apply to be a part of the NFL. You see Baker does have some leverage even if not directly from his own whining.  
WTF??

 
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Chris Simms@CSimmsQB

If the trade assets are equal, I'd rather have Baker Mayfield than Jimmy Garoppolo. Could Baker have done with the 49ers what Jimmy has? Absolutely, and more.
Chris Simms is smoking too many tweeds. Better arm talent doesn't make a better QB.

Maybe this has been a humbling experience and Baker busts his ### to become the best version of himself he can be, but he hasn't been that to date.

It will be interesting to see what the Niners & Browns get for their former starters considering how few trade partners are remaining.

Florio has been pushing Detroit as a landing spot for Mayfield, using similar logic as @Bracie Smathers

 Personally I think Seattle is their best potential trade partner for Cleveland as it is less likely, though not impossible, that the Niners will work with Seattle. Seattle has.the clearest need for a QB upgrade and they have enough draft capital to do a Wentz-like deal for him (conditional 3rd that bumps to a 2nd or even a 1st depending on production) and still have plenty of picks left.

 
...(1) if they trade him for any Draft pick that he comes off their books nice and tidy, clean off their books and they move one, Baker moves on, you get this part I'm sure?

...(2) you think they will start Baker Mayfield 
1.  They only way the Browns can/will trade Mayfield is if they eat a large portion of his salary so the difference between his entire salary and what they will eat isn't that big.

2.  No.  Baker has to behave because he has zero leverage.  The Browns can keep him and make him inactive all year if he causes so much ruckus he poisons the trading well.  Its in his best interest.

Personally I think Seattle is their best potential trade partner
The 'word' Seattle has been putting out is they are all-in on Lock which I find hard to believe so I agree Seattle is viable but Detroit seems 'the-best' fit to me.

 
1.  They only way the Browns can/will trade Mayfield is if they eat a large portion of his salary so the difference between his entire salary and what they will eat isn't that big.

2.  No.  Baker has to behave because he has zero leverage.  The Browns can keep him and make him inactive all year if he causes so much ruckus he poisons the trading well.  Its in his best interest.

The 'word' Seattle has been putting out is they are all-in on Lock which I find hard to believe so I agree Seattle is viable but Detroit seems 'the-best' fit to me.


As a Detroit fan I have zero interest in Baker and have heard nothing about the team even exploring QB options. After a perfect start to the rebuild, and watching about 6 teams turn into mega teams this year, acquiring Baker is probably one of the worst things Detroit could do.

 
The 'word' Seattle has been putting out is they are all-in on Lock which I find hard to believe so I agree Seattle is viable but Detroit seems 'the-best' fit to me.
I think Pete was saying "All in on Lock" is the new name of his garage band.

I think it is the only landing spot left in the NFL where Mayfield is an unquestionable upgrade.

We can go back and forth on Mayfield vs Goff, Darnold, Garappolo even Austin Davis but does anyone in the universe honestly believe Mayfield isn't a clear upgrade to Drew Lock?

 
Baker is probably one of the worst things Detroit could do.
And the worst would be?

Worst would be a QB with the 2nd pick of the draft?  Second worst would be taking a QB in the 2nd round as that scenario would make taking a QB in 2023 less likely and place the Lions in QB limbo for a few years.  It would be much easier to move-on from Mayfield and I think his value as a tradeable asset would increase.

I think that the Lions taking a QB high in this draft is a real possibility.  

 
Goff’s base salary went fully guaranteed and he got paid a $15MM roster bonus last  Thursday. Lions have zero interest in Baker  or any other non-rookie QB this year, IMO.

 
A lot of reports today that Jimmy G is staying in SF. That would Mayfield the only guy left for teams looking for a QB upgrade. 

While I think Mayfield is better than Goff, I don't see Detroit as a serious option. They seem much more likely to address QB in the draft. If not at #2, then at #32 or #34. Howell or Ridder could be there guy there. 

 
A lot of reports today that Jimmy G is staying in SF. That would Mayfield the only guy left for teams looking for a QB upgrade. 

While I think Mayfield is better than Goff, I don't see Detroit as a serious option. They seem much more likely to address QB in the draft. If not at #2, then at #32 or #34. Howell or Ridder could be there guy there. 


Maybe I'm not reading the tea leaves but I'll be shocked (and disappointed) if the Lions take a QB in the first or second round. 

 
Goff’s base salary went fully guaranteed and he got paid a $15MM roster bonus last  Thursday. Lions have zero interest in Baker  or any other non-rookie QB this year, IMO.
$15 million?  Jameis Winston just got $28 million with $21 million guaranteed.  The market is what the market is and $15 is about half of what veteran starting NFL QBs make.

Browns would eat most if not all of Baker's $18 million contract.  The Falcons swallowed this to dish Matty Ice.

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Falcons gonna take on an NFL-record $40.525M dead cap hit on Matt Ryan because they lost out on Watson to the Cleveland Browns, ostracizing one of the best players in franchise history Worse than 28-3

 

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