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QB Brock Purdy, SF (3 Viewers)

Rookie QBs that made it to a conference championship game

Pat Hayden (76 Rams, lost to MIN)
Dieter Brock (85 Rams, lost to CHI)
Shaun King (00 Bucs, lost to STL)
Roethlisberger (04 Steelers, lost to NE)
Joe Flcaao (08 Ravens, lost to PIT)
Mark Sanchez (09 Jets, lost to IND)
 
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AsianP1
@Odnaut82
This is the X factor. This is why they moved up for Trance. The intangible of a qb extending plays. Every single top QB does it (yes even Burrow). Scheme can manipulate defenses. Extending plays breaks them. Jimmy G ran scheme only.
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Josh Norris
@JoshNorris
The fact that defenses must now account for a QB in Brock Purdy, who is far more successful on plays of 3+ seconds compared to Jimmy, is another layer of "well... ****" when preparing for the 49ers Plus, he is already throwing away from defenders! Low and away. High and outside.
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A quick vid giving a short insight into the above tweets.
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LINK to a MUCH LONGER in-depth video
A long video going in-depth on impressive aspects of Brock Purdy
 
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Now I don't feel so bad about Purdy having a good game versus my Dolphins in his first real action in the NFL. It was actually his lowest rated game, but even with the 3 sacks it was clear that he had pocket presence and the ability to extend plays. Even the INT to Howard was the right throw on a 4th and 4 ... it gave Ayuk a chance to convert.
 

Brock Purdy completed 19-of-29 passes for 214 scoreless yards in San Francisco's 19-12, Divisional Round win over the Cowboys.​

Purdy was sacked twice and hurried often in the first half by the Cowboys before San Francisco was able to start getting some tough yards on the ground. He narrowly avoided being intercepted on a few different occasions, mostly notably on a ball that was tipped at the line of scrimmage before going through a defender's hands in the red zone. Play-action opened up George Kittle and Purdy was able to make enough quick throws over the middle to keep the chains moving in tough spots. The Eagles will host the 49ers in the NFC Championship game and Purdy will be able to do as much as Shanahan can scheme against them, though Philadelphia's pass rush would seem to be able to bring enough heat to keep Purdy doing spin moves as he did in this one.
Jan 22, 2023, 9:59 PM ET
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Bracie Smathers said:
NFL Rookie Watch
@NFLRookieWatxh
When Brock Purdy visited Alabama, Nick Saban said this to him:

“You’re below average in height. Your arm strength is whatever. Your accuracy is average”

Today, Brock Purdy will become the first QB taken in the 7th round to start in the divisional round ANYTHING is possible View attachment 3412
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I always that Jalen Hurts was better than Tua, but what do I know. I just figured there was no question about it, if Saban was starting Tua instead.
 
gump said:
Bracie Smathers said:
NFL Rookie Watch
@NFLRookieWatxh
When Brock Purdy visited Alabama, Nick Saban said this to him:

“You’re below average in height. Your arm strength is whatever. Your accuracy is average”
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Weird trending story…Saban offered Purdy a scholarship, but he would have clearly been backing up a couple of highly touted kids.
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Yep, Saban likes to stack his QB room, see what he had a few years ago.
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@NFLRookieWatxh
The 2019 Alabama QB room was INSANE:
• Jalen Hurts (Eagles QB)
• Tua Tagovailoa (Dolphins QB)
• Mac Jones (Patriots QB)
• Taulia Tagovailoa (Maryland QB)
This may have been the BEST college QB room of all time 1f633.png
 

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports Brock Purdy (elbow) injured his ulnar collateral ligament in the NFC Championship and "the hope" is that it is not ruptured.​

Purdy only completed four passes, playing through much of the second half as a non-thrower as the 49ers ran out the string. An MRI is coming on Monday. If his ligament is ruptured, Purdy's injury could throw a wrench into San Francisco's offseason plans at quarterback. It had seemingly been trending towards Purdy starting next season with a Trey Lance trade on the table. This will be one to monitor on Monday or whenever we get the results of the MRI.
SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Jan 29, 2023, 8:57 PM ET
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Brock Purdy completed 4-of-4 passes for 23 yards in the 49ers' 31-7, NFC Championship Game loss to the Eagles.​

You will do a double take at Purdy's statline if you were on a plane during the game, but it was the result of a first quarter elbow injury that forced Purdy to the sideline until the third quarter. That is when he was forced to return after No. 2 Josh Johnson was knocked out with a concussion. Purdy attempted one pass the rest of the way, only handing the ball off as the Niners were annihilated in Philadelphia. It was an inglorious end to a special eight-game run for the literal final pick of the 2022 draft, but one that won't erase the intriguing play he put on film. Although Purdy is limited as a thrower, his willingness to improvise when the play broke down arguably made the Niners' offense more dangerous with him than Jimmy Garoppolo. Purdy's hot and somewhat lucky play will be an interesting offseason talking point for a team set to lose Garoppolo to free agency, but there is little chance Purdy gets the Week 1 call over Trey Lance's third chance. Purdy has proven that he seems to have a higher floor than past Kyle Shanahan system QBs like C.J. Beathard and Nick Mullens. He is a name for everyone, Shanny included, to file away for 2023.
Jan 29, 2023, 6:08 PM ET
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TampaMike19 said:
The players and management won't forget that the 7th round rookie didn't gut it out in their biggest game. Long offseason for the Purdy / Lance competition.
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Most players and management understand injury.


49ers believe QB Brock Purdy injured his ulnar collateral ligament during today’s NFC Championship Game, per sources, and he will undergo an MRI Monday. The hope is that it’s not ruptured, and it would require only a six-week recovery, but tests Monday will provide clarity.
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Hot Sauce Guy said:
Gotta say it: the door is cracked for Lance.

Purdy is the favorite, no doubt. But it might be slightly more of a competition.
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Agreed. At best this did nothing to help unmuddy the situation.

On the upside, the problem of choosing between 2 proven good QBs and one with high hopes he'll be good is not a terrible problem.
 
I don’t get the take that one injury wipes out everything else this kid has done. I’m sure they’ll announce an open competition in camp - but I’d think Purdy’s game translates better on the practice field - with the coaching staff “knowing” how will it turn out.
 
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TampaMike19 said:
Sort of being facetious but I wonder what goes through the minds of players and management during the biggest stage.
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The fact that he was out there under center with a busted wing, in a virtually unwinnable game, instead of emergency QB Christian McCaffrey, exposing himself to further injury just to create the slightest impression that the Niners may pass the ball is the definition of gutting it out.

I think the players and staff appreciate the hell out of that.
 
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Dr. Octopus said:
I don’t get the take that one injury wipes out everything else this kid has done. I’m sure they’ll announce an open competition in camp - but I’d think Purdy’s game translates better on the practice field - with the coaching staff “knowing” how will it turn out.
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It definitely shouldn’t. But having 4 QBs injured this year does give added reason to keep Lance. unless (maybe) they can get a cheap pro to backup Purdy and useful pieces in a deal.
 
Joe Bryant said:
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Gotta say it: the door is cracked for Lance.

Purdy is the favorite, no doubt. But it might be slightly more of a competition.
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Agreed. At best this did nothing to help unmuddy the situation.

On the upside, the problem of choosing between 2 proven good QBs and one with high hopes he'll be good is not a terrible problem.
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Who are the “proven” QBs? Could argue purdy is sort of proven.
 
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Dr. Octopus said:
I don’t get the take that one injury wipes out everything else this kid has done. I’m sure they’ll announce an open competition in camp - but I’d think Purdy’s game translates better on the practice field - with the coaching staff “knowing” how will it turn out.
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It definitely shouldn’t. But having 4 QBs injured this year does give added reason to keep Lance. unless (maybe) they can get a cheap pro to backup Purdy and useful pieces in a deal.
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They were 100% keeping Lance next year regardless of how yesterday played out.

There is really no scenario, beyond a foolish franchise offering 3 first round picks, where they aren't keeping Lance.

Purdy could have taken them to the SB and win decisively, and the Niners would 100% be keeping Lance next year.
 
Chaka said:
-OZ- said:
Dr. Octopus said:
I don’t get the take that one injury wipes out everything else this kid has done. I’m sure they’ll announce an open competition in camp - but I’d think Purdy’s game translates better on the practice field - with the coaching staff “knowing” how will it turn out.
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It definitely shouldn’t. But having 4 QBs injured this year does give added reason to keep Lance. unless (maybe) they can get a cheap pro to backup Purdy and useful pieces in a deal.
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They were 100% keeping Lance next year regardless of how yesterday played out.

There is really no scenario, beyond a foolish franchise offering 3 first round picks, where they aren't keeping Lance.

Purdy could have taken them to the SB and win decisively, and the Niners would 100% be keeping Lance next year.
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Just sayin Lance seemed to disagree and it definitely wasn’t 100% certain. Most likely, sure.
 
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Chaka said:
-OZ- said:
Dr. Octopus said:
I don’t get the take that one injury wipes out everything else this kid has done. I’m sure they’ll announce an open competition in camp - but I’d think Purdy’s game translates better on the practice field - with the coaching staff “knowing” how will it turn out.
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It definitely shouldn’t. But having 4 QBs injured this year does give added reason to keep Lance. unless (maybe) they can get a cheap pro to backup Purdy and useful pieces in a deal.
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They were 100% keeping Lance next year regardless of how yesterday played out.

There is really no scenario, beyond a foolish franchise offering 3 first round picks, where they aren't keeping Lance.

Purdy could have taken them to the SB and win decisively, and the Niners would 100% be keeping Lance next year.
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Just sayin Lance seemed to disagree and it definitely wasn’t 100% certain. Most likely, sure.
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Lance disagreed with what? Did he make a statement asking to be traded or demanding to be the starter next season?

There is virtually no scenario where the Niners would move on from Lance ATM. The only possibility would be in another team willing to give up multiple first & second round picks. The Niners would be remiss not to seek those opportunities but they aren't just moving on from him even if they bring in another veteran QB.
 
With all the Brady/Purdy comparisons about how their first year happened one is now being overlooked...Brady also got hurt on the road in the 2002 AFC Championship game and was unable to return...fortunately for the Pats their backup was Drew Bledsoe and not Josh Johnson so they were able to overcome it...and obviously that injury did not lead to Brady's teammates questioning him as it shouldn't Purdy.
 
Joe Bryant said:
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Gotta say it: the door is cracked for Lance.

Purdy is the favorite, no doubt. But it might be slightly more of a competition.
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Agreed. At best this did nothing to help unmuddy the situation.

On the upside, the problem of choosing between 2 proven good QBs and one with high hopes he'll be good is not a terrible problem.
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Yep. If I'm San Fran, I see no significant downside to a camp battle. Designate Purdy 1A if that seems appropriate but I wouldn't move on from Lance unless I received some Godfather offer for him.

Lance's stock has to be as low as it'll get and I don't see other teams offering up too much for Purdy. As such, no downside really to keeping them both and letting them compete and having a young backup with some real experience.
 
Maybe they should trade one of their QB options for some o-line help to keep the rest of them upright and available.
(I say this as someone that has shares of both Lance and Purdy on dynasty teams.)
 
TampaMike19 said:
Sort of being facetious but I wonder what goes through the minds of players and management during the biggest stage.
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Oh I'm sure it's a thing.

I mean Mahomes solidified legend status playing hurt yesterday. If you don't know how badly he's hurt, and Josh Johnson is killing your team, you wonder if Purdy can be out there when he's throwing balls on the sideline. I'm sure it was a thought. It has to be.

The fact he got back out there and threw will have people wondering if he could have been out there when Josh Johnson couldn't get the play called before delay of game.

But in bigger picture, I think the tests will show he was clearly injured and it all becomes a moot point.
 
Zow said:
Lance's stock has to be as low as it'll get and I don't see other teams offering up too much for Purdy. As such, no downside really to keeping them both and letting them compete and having a young backup with some real experience.
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Not only that but if Lance isn’t on the roster it’s a 20M cap hit. If he is, it’s 10M

Lance isn’t going anywhere.
 
For me, this is the outstanding question on Purdy:
QB1 (10-2 record): 64.0% completions, 2891 yards, 27 TD 2 INT, 119.2 rating
QB2 (8-0 record): 67.2% completions, 1920 yards, 16 TD 4 INT, 107.3 rating

QB1 is Nick Foles, who also took over an existing offense with a lot of weapons: LeSean McCoy (2146 combined yards) and DeSean Jackson (1334 combined) in their primes. McCaffrey, Kittle and Deebo are all top-5 at their positions. Purdy did a good job running the offense, and he does have coolness on his side, but I'm not convinced he's better than Foles.
 
CalBear said:
Purdy did a good job running the offense, and he does have coolness on his side, but I'm not convinced he's better than Foles.
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I agree.

And while everyone wants to cut bait/leave him for dead, Lance could well have elite upside - we just don’t know yet because he’s had so little opportunity.

There’s a greater than zero possibility that Lance beats out Purdy in the preseason anyway.

Purdy was amazing - and to come in and do what he did took moxie. But I’m not convinced he has a ton of room to improve. And as you said, he had incredible weapons around him.

Purdy’s greatest attributes right now are his instincts. He’s got great pocket presence, senses pressure, and has made good decisions under pressure. He has a good instinct for where his receivers are after extending a play.

Those things are hard to teach.

But he might not have the arm, size, speed, athleticism that Lance might have.

It’s going to be interesting to watch. As @Joe Bryant said, it’s a good problem to have.
 
CalBear said:
For me, this is the outstanding question on Purdy:
QB1 (10-2 record): 64.0% completions, 2891 yards, 27 TD 2 INT, 119.2 rating
QB2 (8-0 record): 67.2% completions, 1920 yards, 16 TD 4 INT, 107.3 rating

QB1 is Nick Foles, who also took over an existing offense with a lot of weapons: LeSean McCoy (2146 combined yards) and DeSean Jackson (1334 combined) in their primes. McCaffrey, Kittle and Deebo are all top-5 at their positions. Purdy did a good job running the offense, and he does have coolness on his side, but I'm not convinced he's better than Foles.
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Sure (though being Nick Foles isn't all that bad as Foles has had a relatively successful career).

But I'm also not convinced Purdy isn't the next poor man's Tom Brady (in that nobody will probably ever be Brady but Purdy could be a solid NFL starter for years).

All this is why I think it makes sense to go into next year with Purdy as 1A and Lance as 1B and see what shakes out in camp. Either way, they should have two relatively viable QBs which we continue to learn more and more is almost necessary in today's NFL.
 
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