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QB Bryce Young, CAR (2 Viewers)

How close is he to being dropped in dynasty leagues, both 1 QB and SuperFlex?
Owner in 1QB dynasty. I would not say I'm exactly close to dropping him. If I had to drop someone from my 18 active roster offensive players right now, my preferences would be in this order:

Alec Pierce
Quentin Johnston
Geno Smith
Drake Maye
Antonio Gibson
Bryce Young

Admittedly ... those are all difficult to put in order, it's close. Couple more ugly games, though, and I'm sure some waiver wire guys will make it tempting to cut him.
 
How close is he to being dropped in dynasty leagues, both 1 QB and SuperFlex?
Owner in 1QB dynasty. I would not say I'm exactly close to dropping him. If I had to drop someone from my 18 active roster offensive players right now, my preferences would be in this order:

Alec Pierce
Quentin Johnston
Geno Smith
Drake Maye
Antonio Gibson
Bryce Young

Admittedly ... those are all difficult to put in order, it's close. Couple more ugly games, though, and I'm sure some waiver wire guys will make it tempting to cut him.
Just a couple more? He’s had plenty already
 
How close is he to being dropped in dynasty leagues, both 1 QB and SuperFlex?
Owner in 1QB dynasty. I would not say I'm exactly close to dropping him. If I had to drop someone from my 18 active roster offensive players right now, my preferences would be in this order:

Alec Pierce
Quentin Johnston
Geno Smith
Drake Maye
Antonio Gibson
Bryce Young

Admittedly ... those are all difficult to put in order, it's close. Couple more ugly games, though, and I'm sure some waiver wire guys will make it tempting to cut him.
Just a couple more? He’s had plenty already
Right. At least a couple more until I would consider him my most droppable player. Especially considering the optimism through the offseason. Granted, I realize that sounds comical after an awful Week 1. But the offseason talk is a *small* reset of sorts -- it extends his leash. So you don't drop after one game.
 
How close is he to being dropped in dynasty leagues, both 1 QB and SuperFlex?
Owner in 1QB dynasty. I would not say I'm exactly close to dropping him. If I had to drop someone from my 18 active roster offensive players right now, my preferences would be in this order:

Alec Pierce
Quentin Johnston
Geno Smith
Drake Maye
Antonio Gibson
Bryce Young

Admittedly ... those are all difficult to put in order, it's close. Couple more ugly games, though, and I'm sure some waiver wire guys will make it tempting to cut him.
in superflex, if a QB is starting, hes gonna be rostered. I cant see someone dropping him in that format.

in a one QB league, I could see him being dropped if he has another subpar game this week.
 
How close is he to being dropped in dynasty leagues, both 1 QB and SuperFlex?
Owner in 1QB dynasty. I would not say I'm exactly close to dropping him. If I had to drop someone from my 18 active roster offensive players right now, my preferences would be in this order:

Alec Pierce
Quentin Johnston
Geno Smith
Drake Maye
Antonio Gibson
Bryce Young

Admittedly ... those are all difficult to put in order, it's close. Couple more ugly games, though, and I'm sure some waiver wire guys will make it tempting to cut him.
in superflex, if a QB is starting, hes gonna be rostered. I cant see someone dropping him in that format.

in a one QB league, I could see him being dropped if he has another subpar game this week.
I cut him in my 10-team keep-4 Superflex. Also have Dak, Purdy and Darnold. Have CMC and needed to pick up the undrafted Mason, and Young was the most useless player on my roster, so out he went.
 
I have been shocked at the recent trend of taking small, undersized QBs in top 5-10 picks. QB is a difficult position to hit on, but undersized guys have virtually no track record of sustained dominant passing success. If you stretch small to include someone like Montana or Brees then maybe. Some will say Russell Wilson or Kyler Murray but while both had good moments, neither have been precision passers. They are mobile and Russ was good at play action passing and throwing it deep. Being tall is such an advantage for the QB position, especially you have the ability to push the ball down the field. Even if you guess right, I still think there is an earlier expiration date. I really believe it applies to almost all athletes. Guys like a Tyreke Hill that are small, successful, and have a decently long career are truly rare. It is not surprising what is going on with Tua. He doesn't have the traits to take the punishment of someone like Josh Allen or even those more unathletic like Brady, Matt Ryan, or Peyton. I honestly would hesitate to draft anyone in round 1 that is undersized for their position. At least high in the round. I am not best at predicting who in a given draft will be great but it surprises me how often I feel I am right when I say someone will not live up to their draft position.
 
His size is not the problem. His pre/post snap reads and maddening inaccuracy are
I saw examples of both sets of problems yesterday. How he didn't audible on his last throw though, really stuck out. Line graded well per PFF (and with my eyes) and it seemed like the receivers had more windows to throw to. I doubt this is going to be solved.
Yeah, I don't think his problems are fixable. He has never been accurate and I'm not really aware of this ever really be solved. It's a story we've seen play out in the NFL more times than I can count. He doesn't have prototypical size. His mobility is decent, but that's not going to help much if you're not as fast as Kyler and if you sail passes 10 yards over WR's heads when they break free. Let him take his lumps the rest of the season, do your best not to lose the team, and draft a new QB next year. They still have their own first, so losing out wouldn't be the worst course of action.

ETA - There were multiple occasions where DJ, AT, Mingo and XL were wide open and just missed or never even looked at. It seems like everyone on the offense is doing their job save for the QB.
Didn’t Josh Allen greatly improve his accuracy by changing his mechanics? I think that this was the conventional wisdom for many years but recently there have been some improvements.
 
His size is not the problem. His pre/post snap reads and maddening inaccuracy are
I saw examples of both sets of problems yesterday. How he didn't audible on his last throw though, really stuck out. Line graded well per PFF (and with my eyes) and it seemed like the receivers had more windows to throw to. I doubt this is going to be solved.
Yeah, I don't think his problems are fixable. He has never been accurate and I'm not really aware of this ever really be solved. It's a story we've seen play out in the NFL more times than I can count. He doesn't have prototypical size. His mobility is decent, but that's not going to help much if you're not as fast as Kyler and if you sail passes 10 yards over WR's heads when they break free. Let him take his lumps the rest of the season, do your best not to lose the team, and draft a new QB next year. They still have their own first, so losing out wouldn't be the worst course of action.

ETA - There were multiple occasions where DJ, AT, Mingo and XL were wide open and just missed or never even looked at. It seems like everyone on the offense is doing their job save for the QB.
Didn’t Josh Allen greatly improve his accuracy by changing his mechanics? I think that this was the conventional wisdom for many years but recently there have been some improvements.
A rising number of NFL quarterbacks rely on independent professionals like Hess to incorporate biomechanics and its corresponding technology into their offseason training. Young stars like Allen, C.J. Stroud, Caleb Williams, Anthony Richardson and Brock Purdyhave consulted with Hess to gather vast pools of data that tell them everything about how efficiently or inefficiently they throw using motion-capture technology.
 
His size is not the problem. His pre/post snap reads and maddening inaccuracy are
I saw examples of both sets of problems yesterday. How he didn't audible on his last throw though, really stuck out. Line graded well per PFF (and with my eyes) and it seemed like the receivers had more windows to throw to. I doubt this is going to be solved.
Yeah, I don't think his problems are fixable. He has never been accurate and I'm not really aware of this ever really be solved. It's a story we've seen play out in the NFL more times than I can count. He doesn't have prototypical size. His mobility is decent, but that's not going to help much if you're not as fast as Kyler and if you sail passes 10 yards over WR's heads when they break free. Let him take his lumps the rest of the season, do your best not to lose the team, and draft a new QB next year. They still have their own first, so losing out wouldn't be the worst course of action.

ETA - There were multiple occasions where DJ, AT, Mingo and XL were wide open and just missed or never even looked at. It seems like everyone on the offense is doing their job save for the QB.
Didn’t Josh Allen greatly improve his accuracy by changing his mechanics? I think that this was the conventional wisdom for many years but recently there have been some improvements.
A rising number of NFL quarterbacks rely on independent professionals like Hess to incorporate biomechanics and its corresponding technology into their offseason training. Young stars like Allen, C.J. Stroud, Caleb Williams, Anthony Richardson and Brock Purdyhave consulted with Hess to gather vast pools of data that tell them everything about how efficiently or inefficiently they throw using motion-capture technology.

Does this Hess guy sell stilts
 
Drop him in my 1 QB dynasty league this week for Stafford where I’m win now.
Only holding him in SuperFlex startup, behind Lamar and Carr. Sooooo happy I grabbed Carr as boring insurance. And, yes, the waiver wire is barren for starting QBs
 
His size is not the problem. His pre/post snap reads and maddening inaccuracy are
I saw examples of both sets of problems yesterday. How he didn't audible on his last throw though, really stuck out. Line graded well per PFF (and with my eyes) and it seemed like the receivers had more windows to throw to. I doubt this is going to be solved.
Yeah, I don't think his problems are fixable. He has never been accurate and I'm not really aware of this ever really be solved. It's a story we've seen play out in the NFL more times than I can count. He doesn't have prototypical size. His mobility is decent, but that's not going to help much if you're not as fast as Kyler and if you sail passes 10 yards over WR's heads when they break free. Let him take his lumps the rest of the season, do your best not to lose the team, and draft a new QB next year. They still have their own first, so losing out wouldn't be the worst course of action.

ETA - There were multiple occasions where DJ, AT, Mingo and XL were wide open and just missed or never even looked at. It seems like everyone on the offense is doing their job save for the QB.
Didn’t Josh Allen greatly improve his accuracy by changing his mechanics? I think that this was the conventional wisdom for many years but recently there have been some improvements.
A rising number of NFL quarterbacks rely on independent professionals like Hess to incorporate biomechanics and its corresponding technology into their offseason training. Young stars like Allen, C.J. Stroud, Caleb Williams, Anthony Richardson and Brock Purdyhave consulted with Hess to gather vast pools of data that tell them everything about how efficiently or inefficiently they throw using motion-capture technology.

Does this Hess guy sell stilts

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I'm still baffled everytime I watch him play that he went 1.01. What is it that he's supposed to be good at again? Lbvs.
He was good at being liked by David tepper
I mean, he was always projected to go in the top 2 right? Even before Carolina traded up.
Others can probably answer better, but I’m not sure that he was definitely going to get picked by Houston. Richardson had a lot of buzz and I think that there were questions about young’s size and profile. he probably would have still gone in the top 10 at least I think.
 
I'm still baffled everytime I watch him play that he went 1.01. What is it that he's supposed to be good at again? Lbvs.
He was good at being liked by David tepper
I mean, he was always projected to go in the top 2 right? Even before Carolina traded up.
Others can probably answer better, but I’m not sure that he was definitely going to get picked by Houston. Richardson had a lot of buzz and I think that there were questions about young’s size and profile. he probably would have still gone in the top 10 at least I think.
Here is a headlining confirming my claim, so I must be right: https://www.si.com/nfl/texans/news/...mbine-bryce-young-height-alabama-demeco-ryans

Most articles and mocks do seem to have young in the top 2 but a lot thought stroud would be 1.
 
I'm still baffled everytime I watch him play that he went 1.01. What is it that he's supposed to be good at again? Lbvs.
He was good at being liked by David tepper
I mean, he was always projected to go in the top 2 right? Even before Carolina traded up.
Others can probably answer better, but I’m not sure that he was definitely going to get picked by Houston. Richardson had a lot of buzz and I think that there were questions about young’s size and profile. he probably would have still gone in the top 10 at least I think.
I seem to recall reading that Houston was trying to get him before the Panthers took him.

He was considered the number 1 player by most scouting reports I saw. Just proves how inexact and luck driven the drafting process is at times.
 
I'm still baffled everytime I watch him play that he went 1.01. What is it that he's supposed to be good at again? Lbvs.
He was good at being liked by David tepper
I mean, he was always projected to go in the top 2 right? Even before Carolina traded up.
Others can probably answer better, but I’m not sure that he was definitely going to get picked by Houston. Richardson had a lot of buzz and I think that there were questions about young’s size and profile. he probably would have still gone in the top 10 at least I think.
I seem to recall reading that Houston was trying to get him before the Panthers took him.

He was considered the number 1 player by most scouting reports I saw. Just proves how inexact and luck driven the drafting process is at times.
I dunno guys. Haven't you heard how good Bryce is at reacting to flashing lights or whatever? Stroud sucks at that. 😄
 
The Bruce Young situation might go down as the worst trade and draft choice ever. How Fitterer got another job in the NFL is baffling
 
I've always been a fan of Young, and I was fairly certain his skill set would translate to the NFL despite his size.

But watching him right now is brutal and at some point, the wizardry of his Bama days fades and he becomes this guy who looks completely overmatched as an NFL QB. That transition seems to be happening unfortunately.
 
I'm still baffled everytime I watch him play that he went 1.01. What is it that he's supposed to be good at again? Lbvs.
he was great in college, elevated an Alabama team void of talent in his last year, won the heisman, was supposed to be this elite processor, and could make every throw and called mini Drew Brees but all his limitations every week are displayed out there and he just sucks quite frankly even with an improved o-line, HC, and weapons. He's done and mentally broken
 
I'm still baffled everytime I watch him play that he went 1.01. What is it that he's supposed to be good at again? Lbvs.
he was great in college, elevated an Alabama team void of talent in his last year, won the heisman, was supposed to be this elite processor, and could make every throw and called mini Drew Brees but all his limitations every week are displayed out there and he just sucks quite frankly even with an improved o-line, HC, and weapons. He's done and mentally broken

Yeah, nothing worse than when you can look at a Quarterback who's fire has gone out. Like Jay Cutler second contract with the Bears and his stint in Miami.

Or Desean Watson now. The fire's gone, at this point they're showing up for work. I was excited for Bryce. No clue how you're not getting Diontae 4-5 catches a game.


Guy must just not be a baller. Panthers should have signed Joe Flacco for all the money. I'm curious how another QB would look in that offense. Like, it's one of the worst offenses I've ever seen.


I don't see how they can win a game with Young at QB. The defense will give up by Week 6 knowing that their offense will never put them in a position to win. At least they'll get to pick #1 again...
 
Ready to drop yet?
Owner in 1QB dynasty. I would not say I'm exactly close to dropping him. If I had to drop someone from my 18 active roster offensive players right now, my preferences would be in this order:

Alec Pierce
Quentin Johnston
Geno Smith
Drake Maye
Antonio Gibson
Bryce Young

Admittedly ... those are all difficult to put in order, it's close. Couple more ugly games, though, and I'm sure some waiver wire guys will make it tempting to cut him.
I think he has become my most droppable out of those 6 in one day.
 
I loved his potential as a prospect. He had it all and especially that IT factor. So many college teammates and opponents get fired up talking about him still to this day. He impacted the game.

I can't stand how many claim they saw this coming as if we can't share articles or tweets saying differently. It bugs me more than it should, I'm sure, but ....

I don't know who I'm looking at with the Panthers. You could easily convince me that someone else was wearing his jersey. I'm not a "cater to" proponent at all and it's probably over my head, but ya gotta make the offense somewhat comfortable for the guy. He doesn't even look like him.

I'm leaning towards Trent Richardson level bust wise but probably more like Vince Young with a similar huge stature and presence coming out of college.

I would be 💯 for the Titans adding him as Callahan's development QB that they're searching for and telling him "we had this guy Malik and he went n worked with these QB gurus....." See what happens with him like Malik or as the Cowboys do with Lance too.

What's more likely though is he'll get thrown back to the wolves and struggle so much in Carolina that no one wants him
 
Is this the worst trade in history?
Even if he turned into a productive player, it would have been bad because of the capital they gave up. What makes it the worst is that he might be the worst starting QB of the last 10 years in the whole league.

So they traded all those picks and players to just get him and he's the worst at his position by far.
 
Watching him yesterday, jumping while throwing? Ouch, just did not look the part at all. Hopefully Dalton can make Dionte and Chubba ave again.


Drafted him in a rookie draft, then traded him late in the season for a 1. That 1 turned into Bo Nix. Not sure yet if that's an improvement.
 

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