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QB Bryce Young, CAR (1 Viewer)
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
.....or keep digging until you get to China. Then take a fast train as far as you can, then a boat until you get back to Carolina.
massraider
Footballguy
Rappaport says Bryce still is the plan, and Russini says they are breaking up.
There you have it, people. This is really what I think of his chances: I am more interested in which news person gets the L on this story.
He's with a train wreck of an organization, but we need to remember that he can also be an awful prospect. It's possible that he may have sucked in HOU. Sucked less? Sure. But anyone thinks he would be doing close to what Stroud is doing? If so, we live in different realities.
He's had good blocking. Bears, Ravens, Rams, Raiders NYG, Pats, PIT--all have had much worse pass blocking this year, and I am sure we can think of more. Just because Tepper is a donkey, doesn't mean Bryce isn't an awful QB.
farfromforgotten
Footballguy
Maybe. How can anyone feel for certain though? Look at what’s currently going on around the league: on one hand we’re told that Purdy is only good because he’s on the 49ers. On the other hand we’ve got guys like Malik Willis who looked horrible in Tennessee and yet today with the Packers he’s 12/14 200, 6 carries 70 yards and 2 total tds and Darnold who has looked lost most of his professional QB’ing career and he’s having another nice day for the Vikings against the Texans.Rappaport says Bryce still is the plan, and Russini says they are breaking up.
There you have it, people. This is really what I think of his chances: I am more interested in which news person gets the L on this story.
He's with a train wreck of an organization, but we need to remember that he can also be an awful prospect. It's possible that he may have sucked in HOU. Sucked less? Sure. But anyone thinks he would be doing close to what Stroud is doing? If so, we live in different realities.
He's had good blocking. Bears, Ravens, Rams, Raiders NYG, Pats, PIT--all have had much worse pass blocking this year, and I am sure we can think of more. Just because Tepper is a donkey, doesn't mean Bryce isn't an awful QB.
ilianawindfae
Footballguy
Embarassing.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
What trade value did he really even have before this game?
Shameless self-quote. Dalton was named the starter an hour after I posted this, and it took Dalton exactly one drive to validate the decision. Unreal.
Nah, it’s even lower than Zach’s.
dipandglide
Footballguy
Schefter just said Young is starting this week
It's time to prove the haters wrong. Let's goooooo!
It's time to prove the haters wrong. Let's goooooo!
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Sure glad I have Denver's D this weekend.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
And Johnson in plain street clothes today at practice.
dipandglide
Footballguy
You were glad regardless of this news
Big Nate
Footballguy
It could be good. Someone outbid me on waivers as they spent 10% of their FAAB on DEN D for this week. To the moon.
Todem
Footballguy
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Guy is at a major crossroads in a profession he has been treated like a god for most of his life. This is a big game. Odds are they go back to Dalton. He needs a decent game to create some value for himself. I just cant see him getting it.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
Oh, believe me, the Panthers are done with Young. They've seen what they need to see and he has been found wanting.
He would need to have a 400 yard, 6 TD game with 100 rushing yards to even move the needle.
Nah. A W with 250 yards and a couple tds would be a nice start. It hasn’t been pretty for him, but it’s also not over yet. We’ve seen this story before.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
Yeah, we have, and it always ends with the team moving on. 1.5 years is plenty enough time. The Panthers are moving on. Young is NOT the future. Again, that's patently obvious.
eighsse2
Footballguy
It's a very long shot.
Maybe so, but that’s also what everyone said about Goff after his rookie season too.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
I dont know Young as a person. Have no idea how he processes information. How he practices. How he watches film. How he is around other elite athletes. I have no idea. Only thing I do know is the NFL QB is the hardest position to play and he is gonna get 3 plus more chances. Its on him now starting this week. Dudes gotta be feeling the pressure. Maybe he isn't though and that's the problem.
Max Power
Footballguy
I'll always advocate sitting any Rookie for at least half a season their first year. There is so much to process early on and only the elite tier can do that. The ship has sailed on Young being Elite, but he could still be an NFL QB in the right situation. My expectations are still limited for him, but I am confident the benching was a net positive.
rockaction
Footballguy
He’s so overmatched but I don’t want to piss off simey, so I won’t go into to it too much. He’s not big enough or strong enough nor has the arm enough to do it. It was a colossal misstep by the Panthers, and they’re duly paying for overthinking everything (they are rumored to have deferred to the owner and the owner’s wife, allowing that sort of input to pick the QB based on interviews).
zamboni
Footballguy
That's part of the problem in today's NFL with so much money on the line. Highly drafted QBs are thrown to the wolves immediately nowadays, whereas in years past they could hold the clipboard for a year or so and learn. The problem is that for every Stroud and Daniels that hits right away, the landscape is littered with guys that falter badly, often to the point of losing their confidence and never fulfilling their promise. And given that highly drafted QBs obviously go to weaker teams (hence why they're drafting there), it typically exacerbates the situation.
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Big Nate
Footballguy
Lots just need time. Geno Smith, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold are a few more that just needed time.
And I agree with the poster that was 2 below your post that said rookie QBs should sit. So much pressure these days for coaches and GMs to perform they throw out these QBs that aren't ready.
Max Power
Footballguy
Its not like Andy Dalton was lighting it up. He caught the Raiders off guard and had a great game so everyone immediately pointed to Young as the problem.
Over the last 4 games Dalton has averaged 167 yards passing, 1 TD and 1.5 INTs. I watched him play the Bears and his yards were mostly garbage time / 2 minute drill stuff. He threw another INT that was overturned because the DB stepped out of bounds.
Carolina was outscored 61-148 during that stretch. They are just a trash team at the moment.
Over the last 4 games Dalton has averaged 167 yards passing, 1 TD and 1.5 INTs. I watched him play the Bears and his yards were mostly garbage time / 2 minute drill stuff. He threw another INT that was overturned because the DB stepped out of bounds.
Carolina was outscored 61-148 during that stretch. They are just a trash team at the moment.
Willie Mays Hayes
Footballguy
At this point, Carolina needs to see what they have in all their young players and start planning for 2025 as the #1 pick in the draft. If Young is indeed a lost cause, they need to determine if they're using another top pick for a QB or try to sign a veteran QB. You know, someone like Sam Darnold. 
dipandglide
Footballguy
It's not looking good, but I wouldn't write Young off after <20 games. Carolina was AWFUL last year and had as little talent as I can remember. That year shouldn't be counted against him. I'm letting Young start the ROS and seeing what else he can put on tape if I'm Carolina. They need to surround Young with more talent and give him time once he has talent around him before throwing in the towel.
Big Nate
Footballguy
I agree it is not looking good but hopefully with some time he can grow and improve. Not holding my breath but it is always better for fantasy and the NFL if the QBs turn out to be good. I believe too many rookies are rushed into a starting job and thrown to the wolves.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
Yeah, he just hasn't got it. Bust.
CAR has seen enough, IMO.
CAR has seen enough, IMO.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Well that benching was quicker then I would have thought. Just shows the Panthers realize the best path for them is for him to actually be good. Is he? Been horrible so far. Lots of people thought he was done in Carolina. Guess those people are wrong. Looks like he is gonna get one more shot with them. All on u you now kid.
taylormeetstheismann
Footballguy
I hope Bryce can get up to speed and break through.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
Oh, he's done. The odds ain't good that he's suddenly going to "get it" and become Jayden Daniels.
