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QB Bryce Young, CAR (1 Viewer)
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Just very, very difficult to see.
Is he really on the field? Who can know for sure. It lends a little surprise element to their offense.
League Champion
Footballguy
I'm out, y'all can have Young. He's dead the first time a 300+ pound DL has him T'd up. My 15 year old Son is bigger than him. Sorry, the size is scary
True, I forgot they don’t have 300 pound players at the college level.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
It’s not that they don’t have them, it’s that every team isn’t loaded with them.
Think of college as a diluted version of the NFL. In college you have a couple of those big fast elite beasts on every team. In the pros the entire defensive line is made up of an elite concentration of the college ranks.
The worst guys in the NFL would be starting in college, and likely considered an anchor of the team.
This is all generalizing of course. The point being the chances of taking a big hit by an elite defender increases substantially in the pros.
Whether or not that’s germane to Young having a short career is TBD.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
germane? LOL As in Joe Germane. Fancy words. I bet you have indoor plumbing too don't ya?
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
With all that hot sauce around, he better.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I hope we can get indoor plumbing. I will be the first member of my family to do so.
gump
Footballguy
Agree generally, but some education surely was had in this case vs the defense he faced every day, which is made up entirely of beasts. He didn’t take hits, but worked daily on avoiding hits vs NFL size and speed.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
You can work every day at not getting into a car crash, & still get into a car crash.
NFL is a dangerous sport. S*** happens.
League Champion
Footballguy
He NEVER got hit in college. He WILL get hit in the NFL. Make sense???
JohnnyU
Footballguy
You speak in a lot of absolutes. I was bad for that and would like to think I've improved. Or least I'm trying.
gump
Footballguy
6’4” 320 pound DL…there were 4-5 more like this vs UTenn alone.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That was more of a helmet to helmet with a push than an actual tackle though.
Just sayin. It probably didn’t feel good, but it wasn’t a crushing tackle.
gump
Footballguy
I don’t think they were…what metrics are you basing that on? I think they were in the 60s in Sack Rate. Definitely couldn’t dictate thru the run game.
Birdie048
Footballguy
I was basing it more on the number of OL drafted from Alabama in the last few years.
Just an example like Evan Neal NYG 7th overall. I think Philly took a OL.
Last year (?) there was Leatherwood (LVR) in 1st round.
More of a high caliber OL Young was protected by vs undermanned DL opponents compared to NFL
gump
Footballguy
I figured it was driven by the Bama developmental success…but the OC was pushed out for a reason…the Offense as a unit led by the OL underperformed. Young’s brilliance was the only big positive. He ran for his life basically all year.
I saw him get hit plenty in college. I also saw him expertly manipulate the pocket to avoid plenty of other potential hits because his offensive line wasn’t good as most assume just because it was Alabama.
Not mention how fast the game is played compared to college. They acclimate of course but it takes time. I'm also out on Young. I got burned by drafting Murray and I want no part of a reply of that.
League Champion
Footballguy
Has anyone here drafted Young over Richardson in Dynasty Superflex? Just curious, I haven't personally seen one draft where that's happened.
Birdie048
Footballguy
Sure, it was not the perineal stout OL, but compared to NFL defenses, he will be facing much higher caliber athletes where his own skill set is not so drastically different then theirs.
Those elite DE freaks are faster than him ... 2023 had 5 DE with 40 times below 4.50 sec (see below)
I am unsure if Bryce Young's time was official and there was speculation (due to his "packing on the pounds" to push his weight # / camouflages his shortcomings )
Most records est 4.52 range for his 40 time.
- Nolan Smith (Georgia), 4.39 seconds
- Byron Young (Tennessee), 4.43 seconds
- Robert Beal Jr. (Georgia), 4.48 seconds
- DJ Johnson (Oregon), 4.49 seconds
- Adetomiwa Adebawore (Northwestern), 4.49 seconds
Birdie048
Footballguy
I have seen them go Back-2-Back, but NEVER Young before A Rich
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Excellent question.
Marauder
Footballguy
In my 8 SF drafts, Young went ahead of Richardson one time.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
My rookie draft is Friday and I hold 1.01 and 1.02
I’m taking Bijan+ARich and my picks will take a nanosecond to consider.
League Champion
Footballguy
Nice! I can't imagine not taking Richardson at 1.02 in a Dynasty Superflex draft.
BassNBrew
IBL Representative
Sack rate in NFL 6-7%, in college 5-6%. In the NFL sackers aren't allowed to land on the QB.
Besides, Young is so small the defense won't be able to find him to sack him.
Lol isn't he 5'10? He's shorter than Kyler Murray who I think that defenses have figured out. I'd rather have Richardson.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Murray is also 5'10"
My bad. I'd still rather have Richardson. In some places they have Young listed at 204. Sorry but between training camp and regular season I don't think he pushes past 190 if that. I just think that he won't last long term. Just my 2 cents.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I'm not really a fan of any of the rookie QBs. We know Young is small, but can AR throw accurately? Kinda important for a QB.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Not as important for fantasy if he gets you 1000 rushing yards and a bunch of TDs. As long as he isn't benched of course.
League Champion
Footballguy
You'd draft Young ahead of Richardson in a Superflex Dynasty league?
I agree completely with your take that at this point because of his rushing prowess he has fantasy appeal. Young may prove me wrong but the ceiling for Richardson is much higher in my opinion than Young. That's the reason alot of ff fans are so high on him. Because of his freakish athletic abilities if he hits he could be the home run that wins your league. I like swinging for the fences. That's what makes ff fun to me.
Winning IS Everything
Footballguy
I have the 1.9 in my one QB league, am farily certain one if not both of Richardson/Young will be gone. I am hoping to get one. If both are there, I would think I would take Richardson, but it is a tough choice. Young did play in a high profile program at a high level, and that does count for something.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Young should be there at 1.9 in a start 1qb league. He went 2.02 in two of my leagues and 2.05 in another.
Birdie048
Footballguy
He went 1.06 in my 1QB league ... ARich went 1.05 for what it's worth. So you never can tell. 1.05 team has Cousins & Rodgers ... so he needed youth and had 2 x 1st picks (Champ on top of that).
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I would rather draft someone like Miller, LaPorta, or Mayer at 1.9. I never draft out of need, I trade for need.
Riffraff
Footballguy
Fields is only the third quarterback in NFL history to rush for 1,000 yards, joining Michael Vick and Lamar Jackson.
So, uh, he's guaranteed to become the 4th.... ever?
And repeatedly?
eighsse2
Footballguy
Unless I'm missing some previous context, he did say if ... not exactly close to a guarantee.
Riffraff
Footballguy
So, perhaps the - if - should be more realistic of a hope of say 660 yards? That would be top 25 all-time.
https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/nfl-most-rushing-yards-in-a-season-for-a-qb
Even that is probably hard to come by historically, but not fantasy football ceiling cool to say/write.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Even if he doesn't get 1000 yards he provides what those who drafted him wanted. The whole point is his running prowess and what it brings to fantasy.
