QB Bryce Young, CAR (1 Viewer)

[zamboni]

I'm not QB guru by any stretch, but logically it does stand to reason that small/short TDs have a tougher time of it seeing over these tall behemoths in front of them and being able to process everything at the same time.

A guy like Murray has been highly successful due to his scrambling ability to get out of the pocket, but Bryce doesn't seem to be that kind of QB. And a short pocket passer like Drew Brees thrived because, well he's Drew Brees, and also had a great ecosystem around him.

Those are just two glaring examples of smallish QBs and maybe Bryce can still learn to thrive despite some physical limitations if he's surrounded by a better offensive ecosystem. But the team better do that - and fast - or he's going to flame out in a few years.

 

[Faust]

Panthers QB Bryce Young: 'We all share' in some responsibility for Frank Reich firing

 

[Faust]

2023 NFL Offensive Player Rankings, Week 13: How Panthers can salvage Bryce Young's rookie season

 

[Faust]

Bucs impressed by Bryce Young's poise, potential

 

[Max Power]

He had a play this weekend where he tried to throw the ball away, but threw it backwards. His pocket awareness is still severely lacking

 

[Faust]

Bryce Young shows promise, leads Panthers on winning drive

 

[JohnnyU]

I hope he wasn't a wasted long term pick in 3 leagues.

 

[Faust]

Josh Norris

Exceedingly clear that Bryce Young is part of the answer, and not part of the problem

https://x.com/joshnorris/status/1739023146370376142?s=61

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Josh Norris

Exceedingly clear that Bryce Young is part of the answer, and not part of the problem

https://x.com/joshnorris/status/1739023146370376142?s=61

Facing the Packers D every week is part of the answer, not part of the problem.

 

[Faust]

Next Gen Stats
Bryce Young generated positive passing EPA (+12.2) for the first time in a game in his career.

Young targeted in the intermediate area (10-19 air yards) at the highest rate in a game this season (45.7%), competing 10 of 16 passes for 178 yards & 2 TD.

#GBvsCAR | #KeepPounding

https://twitter.com/nextgenstats/status/1739038553793855619?s=21

 

[Faust]

Football Perspective

Bryce Young is going to finish the 2023 season with the worst passer rating in the NFL, narrowly beating out 2-time defending champion Zach Wilson.

https://x.com/fbgchase/status/1741613662073164244?s=61

 

[TampaMike19]

Could be a favorite draft target if they get another wideout somehow and a better coaching leader and scheme. They need a vocal veteran but odds are this team is going to be **** again next year

 

[ffmail4me]

He just doesn't have it. This pick is going to haunt the Panthers for years. While he didn't have an average WR core (they were sub par, one of the worst in the league) I saw lots of games where Young just badly missed his receivers. Whatever accuracy he showed in college didn't translate this year. His size also isn't helping.

 

[JohnnyU]

He just doesn't have it. This pick is going to haunt the Panthers for years. While he didn't have an average WR core (they were sub par, one of the worst in the league) I saw lots of games where Young just badly missed his receivers. Whatever accuracy he showed in college didn't translate this year. His size also isn't helping.

Will we be saying the same thing about Caleb Williams this time next year?

 

[IHEARTFF]

He just doesn't have it. This pick is going to haunt the Panthers for years. While he didn't have an average WR core (they were sub par, one of the worst in the league) I saw lots of games where Young just badly missed his receivers. Whatever accuracy he showed in college didn't translate this year. His size also isn't helping.

Will we be saying the same thing about Caleb Williams this time next year?

No

 

[joey]

I hope he wasn't a wasted long term pick in 3 leagues.

Same here. I roster him in 2 leagues and only didn’t get him in my 3rd because he went right before my pick so I “settled” for Stroud. So much random luck

 

[JohnnyU]

He just doesn't have it. This pick is going to haunt the Panthers for years. While he didn't have an average WR core (they were sub par, one of the worst in the league) I saw lots of games where Young just badly missed his receivers. Whatever accuracy he showed in college didn't translate this year. His size also isn't helping.

Will we be saying the same thing about Caleb Williams this time next year?

No

I agree, I would bet your life on it.

 

[Faust]

Panthers TE Hayden Hurst: 'Too many voices' in Bryce Young's ear hurt rookie QB

 

[JohnnyU]

Panthers TE Hayden Hurst: 'Too many voices' in Bryce Young's ear hurt rookie QB

He needs some weapons and protection and just let him play to his strengths. Let him play with his instincts, the other things he needs to know will come in time IMO.

 

[abrunn1133]

I hope he wasn't a wasted long term pick in 3 leagues.

Same here. I roster him in 2 leagues and only didn’t get him in my 3rd because he went right before my pick so I “settled” for Stroud. So much random luck

If people who get paid millions of dollars can't get it right, how do us fantasy wonks have a chance?

 

[Riffraff]

If people who get paid millions of dollars can't get it right, how do us fantasy wonks have a chance?

Like and Subscribe the YouTube content creators for the 3 minute highlight videos, call it 'film study', and type in an authoritative text for faux self-confidence?

 

[Faust]

Why Bryce Young still has a bright future with Panthers

 

[Mitchie]

wonder what it would take to trade with the Bears for the #1 pick

 

[Faust]

New Panthers HC Dave Canales: We're going to become what Bryce Young is great at

 

[eighsse2]

New Panthers HC Dave Canales: We're going to become what Bryce Young is great at

The Panthers ... are joining the NCAA? This is gonna be weird.

 

[Snoopy]

New Panthers HC Dave Canales: We're going to become what Bryce Young is great at

The Panthers ... are joining the NCAA? This is gonna be weird.

Then all the players enter the transfer portal?

 

[Faust]

Panthers coach Dave Canales on plan for Bryce Young's rebound

 

[Faust]

Panthers HC Dave Canales: Not planning to 'fix' QB Bryce Young, just need him to 'do his part' in offense

 

[Desert_Power]

New Panthers HC Dave Canales: We're going to become what Bryce Young is great at

The Panthers ... are joining the NCAA? This is gonna be weird.

Relegation has finally come for the NFL

 

[JohnnyU]

I wish I didn’t roster him

 

[ffmail4me]

I wish I didn’t roster him

I'm sure several of us drafted him over Stroud and will be haunted for a long time for it.

 

[eighsse2]

I wish I didn’t roster him

I'm sure several of us drafted him over Stroud and will be haunted for a long time for it.

Win some, lose some! I took Young over Stroud. But, I also would've drafted Jeudy over Lamb, by a hair. But Jeudy was gone, and Lamb was still there. Take the guy that makes the most sense, and what happens happens, can't beat ourselves up.

 

[osubuckeyeman]

Don't count out Young. I could not draft either but I would not be so fast to give up on Young, especially with Canales landing in Carolina. Young is a buy in my book. Rome was not built in a day and Carolina is no Rome. It might take a little time but he should show a pretty big leap this season. Canales is very talented and Young will have gone through a whole offseason and full camp where he is not a rookie. It can only get better.

 

[JohnnyU]

Don't count out Young. I could not draft either but I would not be so fast to give up on Young, especially with Canales landing in Carolina. Young is a buy in my book. Rome was not built in a day and Carolina is no Rome. It might take a little time but he should show a pretty big leap this season. Canales is very talented and Young will have gone through a whole offseason and full camp where he is not a rookie. It can only get better.

You're correct, it wasn't built in a day, it was built between 2020 and 2023. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

 

[eighsse2]

Don't count out Young. I could not draft either but I would not be so fast to give up on Young, especially with Canales landing in Carolina. Young is a buy in my book. Rome was not built in a day and Carolina is no Rome. It might take a little time but he should show a pretty big leap this season. Canales is very talented and Young will have gone through a whole offseason and full camp where he is not a rookie. It can only get better.

You're correct, it wasn't built in a day, it was built between 2020 and 2023. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Don't get it.

 

[JohnnyU]

Don't count out Young. I could not draft either but I would not be so fast to give up on Young, especially with Canales landing in Carolina. Young is a buy in my book. Rome was not built in a day and Carolina is no Rome. It might take a little time but he should show a pretty big leap this season. Canales is very talented and Young will have gone through a whole offseason and full camp where he is not a rookie. It can only get better.

You're correct, it wasn't built in a day, it was built between 2020 and 2023. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Don't get it.

"Rome" Odunze

 

[eighsse2]

Don't count out Young. I could not draft either but I would not be so fast to give up on Young, especially with Canales landing in Carolina. Young is a buy in my book. Rome was not built in a day and Carolina is no Rome. It might take a little time but he should show a pretty big leap this season. Canales is very talented and Young will have gone through a whole offseason and full camp where he is not a rookie. It can only get better.

You're correct, it wasn't built in a day, it was built between 2020 and 2023. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Don't get it.

"Rome" Odunze

Ohhhh that Rome.

 

[Faust]

Adam Thielen: 'Everything was stacked against' Bryce Young in rookie season with Panthers

 

[Faust]

Andy Dalton: Panthers' improvements will set up Bryce Young 'to have a better year' in 2024

 

[Faust]

Dave Canales on improving Panthers: 'It's about building a great team, and then Bryce (Young) can just do his part'

 

[Max Power]

I wish I didn’t roster him

Would you trade him for a late 3rd in a 1QB league?

My rough estimate before the draft puts the Penix/Nix level QB in the mid-late 3rd. As bad as Young was last year, I'd heavily consider him over those two.

 

[Bri]

I wish I didn’t roster him

Would you trade him for a late 3rd in a 1QB league?

My rough estimate before the draft puts the Penix/Nix level QB in the mid-late 3rd. As bad as Young was last year, I'd heavily consider him over those two.

Late third in rookie draft? That's where I got him and I've been sending other offers because of it.
He was better than this guy and that guy in college. A zillion rookie QBs stunk in the NFL that turned out to be good.
I wasn't seeking him out but oof I'd wayyy rather him than the 20th WR or fifth TE seventh RB or whatever happens to setup the late third.

Keeper leagues and smaller roster leagues, fine move on. They don't really offer patience as a league type. There isn't a better value cost/ceiling than this kid right now

 

[Soulfly3]

Got him for a 4th round pick in dynasty a week or 2 back, and now really looking forward to seeing what this kid can do with a new o-line and nice new shiny toys on offense.

Hoping he can put it all together this season. They really did him right this draft

 

[ffmail4me]

Very happy for Young. He needed help and they gave it to him in this draft. Not sure they picked the right WR, but almost anything is better than what they had last year. The RB/TE combo should really help him too.

 

[Bri]

Very happy for Young. He needed help and they gave it to him in this draft. Not sure they picked the right WR, but almost anything is better than what they had last year. The RB/TE combo should really help him too.

I found it odd.
He got sacked a thousand times and hit a million times and they didn't draft linemen. I know their line was supposed to be good last year but I felt that showed an odd confidence in simply "next year will be different."
I loved the Bengals ballsy we're taking Chase and not Sewell approach and they surely pulled it off but it's like tattooed on my brain that Sewell is the smartest pick.
Years later, here the Panthers are and I can't help but think "you're not the Bengals."

Another thing- did you see him on the sideline? He definitely absorbed those hits and it affected him. If they're wrong and he has another year of hits, his career could be over like David Carr and others as he simply becomes a player with PTSD. He was a cool calm poised college QB and ....I just don't know if this was the way to go.

 

[BassNBrew]

Very happy for Young. He needed help and they gave it to him in this draft. Not sure they picked the right WR, but almost anything is better than what they had last year. The RB/TE combo should really help him too.

I found it odd.
He got sacked a thousand times and hit a million times and they didn't draft linemen. I know their line was supposed to be good last year but I felt that showed an odd confidence in simply "next year will be different."
I loved the Bengals ballsy we're taking Chase and not Sewell approach and they surely pulled it off but it's like tattooed on my brain that Sewell is the smartest pick.
Years later, here the Panthers are and I can't help but think "you're not the Bengals."

Another thing- did you see him on the sideline? He definitely absorbed those hits and it affected him. If they're wrong and he has another year of hits, his career could be over like David Carr and others as he simply becomes a player with PTSD. He was a cool calm poised college QB and ....I just don't know if this was the way to go.

They signed two new guards. Ekwonu comes up 7th on the pff list (but people did think he stunk last year). Not sure drafting backup linemen helps him.

 

[Bri]

Very happy for Young. He needed help and they gave it to him in this draft. Not sure they picked the right WR, but almost anything is better than what they had last year. The RB/TE combo should really help him too.

I found it odd.
He got sacked a thousand times and hit a million times and they didn't draft linemen. I know their line was supposed to be good last year but I felt that showed an odd confidence in simply "next year will be different."
I loved the Bengals ballsy we're taking Chase and not Sewell approach and they surely pulled it off but it's like tattooed on my brain that Sewell is the smartest pick.
Years later, here the Panthers are and I can't help but think "you're not the Bengals."

Another thing- did you see him on the sideline? He definitely absorbed those hits and it affected him. If they're wrong and he has another year of hits, his career could be over like David Carr and others as he simply becomes a player with PTSD. He was a cool calm poised college QB and ....I just don't know if this was the way to go.

They signed two new guards. Ekwonu comes up 7th on the pff list (but people did think he stunk last year). Not sure drafting backup linemen helps him.

I don't know if this is good. I'd usually say PFF missed that one or some wise comment like are they even watching. I don't at all agree with his rating.
I think there's a trap with linemen that many of us (or just me ) can't get past. Young ones gotta learn and struggle. New free agents are gonna have hiccups til they get acclimated etc.
Is it ok that he allowed 11 sacks because he's young and next year will be better or is he not good enough?
I don't know how to feel about his 8 sacks allowed and then only three over the final twelve- doing well with the coaching change. Is the newest new coach good for him?

The whole line stunk w penalties including him.

 

[JoeJoe88]

Very happy for Young. He needed help and they gave it to him in this draft. Not sure they picked the right WR, but almost anything is better than what they had last year. The RB/TE combo should really help him too.

I found it odd.
He got sacked a thousand times and hit a million times and they didn't draft linemen. I know their line was supposed to be good last year but I felt that showed an odd confidence in simply "next year will be different."
I loved the Bengals ballsy we're taking Chase and not Sewell approach and they surely pulled it off but it's like tattooed on my brain that Sewell is the smartest pick.
Years later, here the Panthers are and I can't help but think "you're not the Bengals."

Another thing- did you see him on the sideline? He definitely absorbed those hits and it affected him. If they're wrong and he has another year of hits, his career could be over like David Carr and others as he simply becomes a player with PTSD. He was a cool calm poised college QB and ....I just don't know if this was the way to go.

He also got sacked a lot because he held the ball too long because none of his wr’s were open and could get any separation. Trust me, I live in NC and watched a lot of Panthers games last year(unfortunately).

Dionte was a great start because now they actually have someone who can create some separation on his own. I still don’t know how I feel about Legette yet, but he has to be an improvement over what they had last year. And Sanders was an absolute slam dunk pick.

 

[BassNBrew]

Very happy for Young. He needed help and they gave it to him in this draft. Not sure they picked the right WR, but almost anything is better than what they had last year. The RB/TE combo should really help him too.

I found it odd.
He got sacked a thousand times and hit a million times and they didn't draft linemen. I know their line was supposed to be good last year but I felt that showed an odd confidence in simply "next year will be different."
I loved the Bengals ballsy we're taking Chase and not Sewell approach and they surely pulled it off but it's like tattooed on my brain that Sewell is the smartest pick.
Years later, here the Panthers are and I can't help but think "you're not the Bengals."

Another thing- did you see him on the sideline? He definitely absorbed those hits and it affected him. If they're wrong and he has another year of hits, his career could be over like David Carr and others as he simply becomes a player with PTSD. He was a cool calm poised college QB and ....I just don't know if this was the way to go.

They signed two new guards. Ekwonu comes up 7th on the pff list (but people did think he stunk last year). Not sure drafting backup linemen helps him.

I don't know if this is good. I'd usually say PFF missed that one or some wise comment like are they even watching. I don't at all agree with his rating.
I think there's a trap with linemen that many of us (or just me ) can't get past. Young ones gotta learn and struggle. New free agents are gonna have hiccups til they get acclimated etc.
Is it ok that he allowed 11 sacks because he's young and next year will be better or is he not good enough?
I don't know how to feel about his 8 sacks allowed and then only three over the final twelve- doing well with the coaching change. Is the newest new coach good for him?

The whole line stunk w penalties including him.

Not going to argue about the rating because the eye test agrees with you. That said, you're not going to draft someone to replace him in in year 3. The guards who came in via FA have to start. I just don't see where adding linemen in the draft would have made a difference relative to the skill positions that were available to add.