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I'm not sure I agree.
I hear that. What i will say is Caleb has a better path to succeed, than Trevor ever had. Trevor may have already cemented the bad habits he was allowed/forced to learn over his first few years. Ben Johnson will not let Caleb learn the wrong way.
If that was the case, it would have already happened. Ben Johnson doesn't strike me as a guy to kowtow to upper management. If Bagent were, in fact, better at running the offense, he'd be playing right now.
Bagent has little arm strength. His career high for passing yards in a game is 232, which only happened because the Bears lost 40-7 to the Chargers and he racked up the garbage time numbers. In four games as a starter, his QB rating is 71.
Yep, it is the long game. We play Fantasy Football while the team and coaches are working towards a bigger goal long term. But some people just want to complain.
I'll disagree with you here - I thought Caleb was very poor yesterday. There might as well have been clown/circus music in the background while he was running in circles in the backfield trying to evade pass rushers. The efficient checkdowns from Weeks 3-4 have disappeared, for now at least. Likewise, he seemed very reticent to run forward past the line of scrimmage yesterday - despite the endless circling in the backfield. He had numerous poor throws and keeps having balls that are "tipped" that are basically thrown right at a defense pass rusher's head.
Did you watch the game? He was pretty bad. Ugly throws all day.
No, I got a ton of Bears on major fantasy leagues but I did not care to watch and figured I'd just come here and say I'm surprised at the negative reaction even though I never watched the game.
the excuses for the this kid are endless...free bagent
Yeah, thats my dilemna as well. Jones seems to be an every week starte/season changer for folks like me that waited on QB late. That being said, he is going against Tenn that is 8th strongest defense against QB's. Caleb has Baltimore, which unbelievably is 31st against QB's in fantasy production. I have DJones in currently but I'll probably swap them about 37 times before sunday.
Sorry, I meant Mac Jones.
Has Baltimore D gotten any healthier? I think Roquan is back, but not sure about others. Last I checked they were a MASH unit
So far, for FF purposes, he’s a guy who will be on your bench when he goes off, and then you start him and he puts up a stinker. I dumped him in all 3 leagues because of this. He may progress, and show more consistency week, to week, but I’m in redraft leagues. I don’t have time to wait for that ****.
Exactly this. Johnson has already started a culture of winning, which has been gone from the Bears organization for a long time. It's clear that it has taken some time to learn Johnson's offense (just look at how slowly Loveland has been brought along). I've said since Day 1 that the Bears (and Caleb's performance) will be up and down in 2025 and that the real gains will be made in 2026. So far, the offense has been improved a lot quicker than I expected. I still see ups and downs and am eying a 9-8 season, but that is a huge rising trend and I'll take it.
What is the link for those stats? Thank you.
I can't remember who I follow on X that posted it but I believe the underlying stats come from "Fantasy Points Data". When I have a chance I'll look up the actual tweet.
Most of those were the three games Roqan missed and a game and a half where Hamilton missed. Those two guys make a huge difference in the play of Ravens defense. Both played yesterday and you could tell a significant difference in Baltimore's defensive play.
Great context, which I should have added. Also, prior to Williams Ravens played Josh Allen, Flacco, Goff, Mahomes, Stroud and Stafford. So it wasn’t Uncle Rico racking up those touchdowns
1&2 - Appear to be true.
Can anyone define these stats and speak to what they actually mean in-game? I'm having a really hard time figuring out what most of them actually mean.
Those are certainly some stats that show some bad stuff on Caleb.
I won't outright dismiss them because they do tell a story and I think (obviously my subjective opinion) they do kind of align with what we see in his play. Ultimately, he could improve his accuracy.
