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QB Cam Newton, Retired (1 Viewer)

Da Guru said:
Just seems like Newt aged in dog years.  Still big and strong but looks old and slow when he tries to move around. Newt was never a good pocket passer and without his legs he is worse.

Nice that he got to come back to Carolina to finish up his last year in the NFL though.
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He last longer than most goal line RBs.

 
So bad chants of "we want Darnold" coming from Panther fans.

Newtons been cooked for years. Maybe he can find role as a goalline specialist but his lateral movement has definitely declined as well. And obviously most people know his arms been shot for years

 
CAM NEWTON QB, CAROLINA PANTHERS

Panthers head coach Matt Rhule wouldn't speculate about which quarterback would be the "full time guy" in Week 16 against the Bucs. 

Rhule said he's awaiting Sam Darnold's (shoulder) medical evaluation before making any decisions. Cam Newton in Week 15 against Buffalo finally got through a game without being yanked. He delivered 71 rushing yards and a score on the ground along with 156 passing yards and another touchdown. Darnold is expected to be available for Week 16, and Rhule seems to be considering rotating quarterbacks or flat-out starting his former starter in place of Cam. Newton, based on his role as the team's primary goal line runner, would be a low-end QB2 if Rhule says the team will rotate signal callers against Tampa. 

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Sam Darnold

SOURCE: Jon Alexander on Twitter 

Dec 20, 2021, 12:34 PM ET
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Cam Newton said he's "open" to being a backup for a winning team in 2022. 

"I'm not coming back for no 5-12," Newton said Monday, adding that he believes he can still play at "a high level." Newton's 2021 return to the Panthers -- momentarily glorious but ultimately a massive letdown -- ended with the team's Week 18 loss to Tampa. Sam Darnold, against all odds, took back the starting job from Newton after weeks of cringe-worthy play behind a porous offensive line. Clearly lacking any semblance of his former arm strength, Newton could compete for a starting job on a bad team in 2022. It's more likely he'll sign with a Super Bowl contender and perhaps take on a short yardage and goal line role, like Taysom Hill during Drew Brees' final years in New Orleans. Newton will be 33 in May. 

SOURCE: Joseph Person on Twitter 

Jan 10, 2022, 11:32 AM ET
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For a more serious answer, I wouldn't expect Cam to be a HOFer. Based on HOF Monitor Score (admittedly a flawed metric), Newton has a score of 70. That ranks him as the 28th highest ranked QB. The only HOFers with lower scores are Len Dawson (69), Troy Aikman (64), and Jim Kelly (59). Newton essentially only was a starter for 9 seasons. Sure, he has been a force running the football, but the primary job of a QB is passing the ball. He also didn't win at a high enough rate. He had one super -human season, but his entire body of work seems to be lacking. Add in that there are 9 QB ranked higher than him on the list from the recent era, I don't see the voters inducting 8-10 guys from the same timeframe. 

 
Anarchy99 said:
For a more serious answer, I wouldn't expect Cam to be a HOFer. Based on HOF Monitor Score (admittedly a flawed metric), Newton has a score of 70. That ranks him as the 28th highest ranked QB. The only HOFers with lower scores are Len Dawson (69), Troy Aikman (64), and Jim Kelly (59). Newton essentially only was a starter for 9 seasons. Sure, he has been a force running the football, but the primary job of a QB is passing the ball. He also didn't win at a high enough rate. He had one super -human season, but his entire body of work seems to be lacking. Add in that there are 9 QB ranked higher than him on the list from the recent era, I don't see the voters inducting 8-10 guys from the same timeframe. 
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I agree he had 1 great season.

as has been said, “it’s not the hall of pretty good”. 

Cam Has none chance, IMO.  The best thing he ever did was that commercial with the little kid who said he was gonna take his job & become his mom’s favorite player. :lol:  
https://youtu.be/SAd2wkTe-Uo

 
Nothing specific to Cam, but over the years, there have been countless articles over whether QB X is a HOFer. I certainly understand why, as local beat guys need clicks and these types of articles get plenty of them. 

The template is to take career stats from a recent guy and compare them to a HOFer from season’s past. Vinny Testaverde has twice as many passing yards as Roger Staubach! Joe Flacco has 50 more TD than Joe Namath with 80 fewer interceptions . . . and Flacco had 11 TD and 0 INT in the post season when they won the SB! Tony Romo has a higher career passer rating than Peyton Manning! Donovan McNabb led the Eagles to 5 NFC championship games and is the team’s leader in passing yards!

But that only goes so far. Where things fall apart is when comparing these recent players to their peers. As I said earlier, Cam is already borderline Top 10 for QBs from the last 10 years. But there are other guys in the league that will pass him. Sure, most rushing TD by a QB, MVP, 15-1 season, etc. in a vacuum, those are very impressive. But look at all the other QBs that played when he did, and he quickly fades into a very good category with many other guys outpacing him. Until they start inducting Fashionistas into Canton based on their wardrobe, I have a hard time with anyone making a compelling case for him to be inducted. 

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
IMO McNabb > Newton

And I don’t see McNabb as HOF. 
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Cam actually has a higher HOF score than McNabb does. Back in the day, there were discussions here debating if Donovan was a legit candidate. There were plenty of articles and sports talk debates as well. McNabb might be a candidate for the soup commercial HOF, but for all the reasons I listed recently, IMO, he just doesn’t stack up to many other more qualified candidates from his era. 

 
Anarchy99 said:
Cam actually has a higher HOF score than McNabb does. Back in the day, there were discussions here debating if Donovan was a legit candidate. There were plenty of articles and sports talk debates as well. McNabb might be a candidate for the soup commercial HOF, but for all the reasons I listed recently, IMO, he just doesn’t stack up to many other more qualified candidates from his era. 
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That 1 season for the ages Cam put up likely edged him over McNabb.

I wonder if McNabb hadn’t broken his leg that incredible season he was having, would he be rated higher? Or if he’d won the SB?

Its a fine line. Personally, I thought McNabb was a better QB. 

 
Panther general manager Scott Fitterer said head coach Matt Rhule has talked to Cam Newton about returning to the team in 2022. 

"It's gotta be a good fit for him. It's gotta be a good fit for us," Fitterer said in a Friday press conference. "The door's still open for us. We'll see where it goes." Thrust into one of the NFL's worst offenses in 2021, Newton was predictably terrible, posting the league's lowest completion rate over expected (CPOE) and the second lowest expected points added (EPA) per play. Only Mike Glennon was worse than Newton in 2021. Newton said in January that we won't play for a bad team in 2022, which would seem to eliminate the horrid Panthers from his options. At this point in his storied career, Newton, 32, is little more than a short-yardage and goal line gadget option for a contending team. 

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Sam Darnold

, Carolina Panthers

SOURCE: Joseph Person on Twitter 

Mar 25, 2022, 12:09 PM ET
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ESPN's Adam Schefter reports Cam Newton is "drawing interest" from NFL teams. 

“I have teams that are interested in signing me,” Newton told Schefter. “I am waiting on the best fit as it pertains to winning a championship and getting a fair chance to play.” Among the NFL's worst passers in his briefly-glorious return to Carolina last year, Newton would fit best as a short yardage and goal line rushing option for a contending team. He said after the 2021 season that he would not play for a bad team in 2022, presumably eliminating the Panthers from his equation.     

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Carolina Panthers

SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter 

Mar 29, 2022, 8:07 AM ET
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If you had to let one in to the HoF, Matt Ryan or Cam? Both have an MVP and a SB loss. I don't think either should make it but I'd pick Cam. He was really a game changer in a way Ryan never was, even in Ryan's MVP season.

 
Wise Old Owl said:
If you had to let one in to the HoF, Matt Ryan or Cam? Both have an MVP and a SB loss. I don't think either should make it but I'd pick Cam. He was really a game changer in a way Ryan never was, even in Ryan's MVP season.
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I'd say Ryan due to his play in big games. Ryan seemed to always step up to the spotlight when needed, and was usually let down by his defense or someone else. 

Ryan's playoff run in 2016 is arguably the best any QB has ever played in the playoffs. 71% completion %, 10+ YPA, 135 passer rating. In the Super Bowl he played almost perfect football, only a lost fumble was a blemish, and that was because Devonta Freeman completely blew a blitz pickup.

Cam was a big reason why his team lost in his Super Bowl appearance. 

 
Wise Old Owl said:
If you had to let one in to the HoF, Matt Ryan or Cam? Both have an MVP and a SB loss. I don't think either should make it but I'd pick Cam. He was really a game changer in a way Ryan never was, even in Ryan's MVP season.
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This is not close. Ryan is far superior. 

Did you really think that Falcons team was special? Dude gets nice passing stats every year regardless who is on his team or the line. I worry of him in Indy now beating my Titans.

Cam was another RG3. Heckuva exciting guy that looked unstoppable for a spell. 

He's a goal line QB and people are still singing his praises because he's so likable and charismatic but geesh he was a goal line QB.

 
I don't see how anything is different from last year when no one signed him til the Panthers did. He is such a huge presence it's an inadvertent deterrent to have him on the sidelines and practice. I feel bad for him because that kind of stinks but....he should run for office or be a sales spokesperson or something. 

I've said before if Tebow runs for President I am saying no way he wins but..there's no way I bet on that. People absolutely adore him in an almost irrational way. Cam is something lesser popularity wise but he's on his heels. 

Idk what happens if he is some teams third string QB for five years and then retires. It's gotta hurt though and right now he's got a million dollar smile

 
Wise Old Owl said:
If you had to let one in to the HoF, Matt Ryan or Cam? Both have an MVP and a SB loss. I don't think either should make it but I'd pick Cam. He was really a game changer in a way Ryan never was, even in Ryan's MVP season.
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Neither, but in their prime, and if I had to have one QB to save my life, I would start Ryan.  Cam could never throw the ball accurately as far as I can remember.

 
Wise Old Owl said:
If you had to let one in to the HoF, Matt Ryan or Cam? Both have an MVP and a SB loss. I don't think either should make it but I'd pick Cam. He was really a game changer in a way Ryan never was, even in Ryan's MVP season.
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I think it depends if you are making the comparison between Ryan peak season vs Cam peak season of if you are comparing Ryan career vs Cam career. IMO Ryan is so much better over his career it's not really close. If you spun the wheel and got a random year from either I'd much rather have a random Ryan year. Can had some very high highs but he's also had some rough years. That's why a 37yo Ryan is probably going to be leading a team to the playoffs while a 33yo Cam will struggle to get signed as a backup without an injury to some team.

It's like comparing Russel Westbrook to Kevin Durant. They both have one MVP, but the difference is there have been seasons where you could argue that Westbrook hurt his team even if he was compiling stats(thus making him a good fantasy player). Durant has the skill set on any team better and doesn't require an offense to be built around his skill sets to be successful.

That last sentence is important and why Westbrook/Cam type guys see their value tank at the end of their careers.

 
Bri said:
Complaining about "women who don't know when to be quiet" and that can't cook did not do him any good
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Perhaps the most ironic thing is a guy looking to catch on as a backup QB in the NFL is pretty much the blueprint of someone who should be quiet and not make any waves. Just ask a guy that used to play in the bay area.

 
SeniorVBDStudent said:
That's a little bit unfair.  Until he ran into Von Miller, Cam was pretty much unstoppable that year.

Superman was defeated by a bigger superman.
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He had a great season, not sure he should have won MVP, but it was a great year. He played awful in the Super Bowl though. Even when he had time (which wasn't often) he couldn't do anything. 

 
I saw the Seahawks and Carolina are suppose to be sniffing around Newton. 

What is his value if he is signed by either team? Seahawks seem to be the better spot for fantasy value. The year in NE and last year are just awful numbers. It seems he is toast. Is there any hope for him? 

It is just so odd. Not many QB's fall as fast and hard as he has. 

 
Chadstroma said:
I saw the Seahawks and Carolina are suppose to be sniffing around Newton. 

What is his value if he is signed by either team? Seahawks seem to be the better spot for fantasy value. The year in NE and last year are just awful numbers. It seems he is toast. Is there any hope for him? 

It is just so odd. Not many QB's fall as fast and hard as he has. 
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He'd probably find his way to starts with either of them. I would think Cam would be a great backup to have around for a contender, as he's good enough to be a fill-in for a few weeks barring a season ending injury to a starter. There certainly aren't 64 QBs better than Cam Newton, its arguable if there are 32, but there are 32+ with more long term upside. 

Carolina shouldn't be sniffing around any QBs in my opinion. Just go with Matt Corral. At least there is a hint of upside there, also probably Rhule's best chance of saving his job. If Corral plays well, and the Panthers show some improvement you can maybe get another year to build around him. If you start a vet and miss the playoffs, job gone. 

In Seattle's case, Pete Carroll's job is his until he decides he's done the way I see it. I'd be much more interested in Mayfield (or Jimmy G to a lesser extent) than Newton, but those guys aren't free (at least not yet) and Cam is probably better than Geno or Lock, even at this stage of his career. Honestly, with how far QBs fell, I was shocked Seattle didn't take one. I know it wasn't an elite class, but I'm pretty confident at least 2-3 of those guys were better than Geno/Lock.

 
travdogg said:
He'd probably find his way to starts with either of them. I would think Cam would be a great backup to have around for a contender, as he's good enough to be a fill-in for a few weeks barring a season ending injury to a starter. There certainly aren't 64 QBs better than Cam Newton, its arguable if there are 32, but there are 32+ with more long term upside. 

Carolina shouldn't be sniffing around any QBs in my opinion. Just go with Matt Corral. At least there is a hint of upside there, also probably Rhule's best chance of saving his job. If Corral plays well, and the Panthers show some improvement you can maybe get another year to build around him. If you start a vet and miss the playoffs, job gone. 

In Seattle's case, Pete Carroll's job is his until he decides he's done the way I see it. I'd be much more interested in Mayfield (or Jimmy G to a lesser extent) than Newton, but those guys aren't free (at least not yet) and Cam is probably better than Geno or Lock, even at this stage of his career. Honestly, with how far QBs fell, I was shocked Seattle didn't take one. I know it wasn't an elite class, but I'm pretty confident at least 2-3 of those guys were better than Geno/Lock.
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The panthers should absolutely roll Corral out there week 1.  I never understood the "bringing him along slowly" mantra we hear from teams.   If the panthers had a first round grade on him then start him.  If he can play he can play. 

 
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