QB Cam Newton, Retired (2 Viewers)

[Steelers4Life]

.... but he sure just came up HUUUUUUUGE at the end with 3 awesome throws.

 

[pantherclub]

lol at the cam haters. Dude just got it done

 

[ConnSKINS26]

He does this throwing to Tedd Ginn and Domenik Hixon

I can't wait to see this guy get a top WR prospect to play with. That's got to be the Panthers priority this offseason, right?

 

[pantherclub]

He does this throwing to Tedd Ginn and Domenik Hixon

I can't wait to see this guy get a top WR prospect to play with. That's got to be the Panthers priority this offseason, right?

I would sacrifice small animals to get sammy watkins on this team. He is exactly what Cam needs.

 

[LittlePhatty]

lol at the cam haters. Dude just got it done

All the haters left this thread over a month ago.

 

[MAC_32]

57 ####ty minutes, but give credit where credit is due. When most qbs play that bad, with the game on the line they dont step up like he did.

 

[MAC_32]

lol at the cam haters. Dude just got it done

All the haters left this thread over a month ago.

people still say hater? that's gotta go soon, yes?

 

[LittlePhatty]

Dalton?!?!

Lord...

Season totals: Cam is QB6 in my league, while Dalton is QB9, and not many points separate them.

This is my choice too for the championship. Dalton has had a few huge games, and I can easily see it happening again vs the Vikings.

I'm leaning towards Dalton having a monster game, while Cam gets the win against the Saints but only has an average fantasy day.

The rest of my team is mailing it in this week, but at least I made the right QB decision.

Still happy to have Cam in my keeper league and I hope they get him some WR talent next year.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Coach Ron Rivera said he's not concerned with Cam Newton's toe and ankle nicks.
Newton stubbed his toe against the Jets in Week 15 and was walking with a limp after tweaking his ankle against the Saints in Week 16. He's been getting treatment and is not expected to miss any practice time, but the nicks are a reason his rushing numbers have been down. Over the last two weeks, Newton has carries 11 times for just 18 yards with no touchdowns. The Panthers can clinch a first-round bye by winning at Atlanta Sunday.

Source: Charlotte Observer

 

[NCCommish]

Rotoworld:

Coach Ron Rivera said he's not concerned with Cam Newton's toe and ankle nicks.
Newton stubbed his toe against the Jets in Week 15 and was walking with a limp after tweaking his ankle against the Saints in Week 16. He's been getting treatment and is not expected to miss any practice time, but the nicks are a reason his rushing numbers have been down. Over the last two weeks, Newton has carries 11 times for just 18 yards with no touchdowns. The Panthers can clinch a first-round bye by winning at Atlanta Sunday.

Source: Charlotte Observer

People seem to forget the defenses Charlotte has been playing. The Saints were the number 5 overall defense coming in and the Jets were the number 3 rushing defense. Not hard to figure out why it wasn't easy to run the last couple of weeks. Add to that being nicked up and that has more to do with the production that any problem really. Reports out of practice are that Cam practiced fully Tuesday with no lingering ill effects.

 

[smapdi]

Rotoworld:

Coach Ron Rivera said he's not concerned with Cam Newton's toe and ankle nicks.
Newton stubbed his toe against the Jets in Week 15 and was walking with a limp after tweaking his ankle against the Saints in Week 16. He's been getting treatment and is not expected to miss any practice time, but the nicks are a reason his rushing numbers have been down. Over the last two weeks, Newton has carries 11 times for just 18 yards with no touchdowns. The Panthers can clinch a first-round bye by winning at Atlanta Sunday.

Source: Charlotte Observer

People seem to forget the defenses Charlotte has been playing. The Saints were the number 5 overall defense coming in and the Jets were the number 3 rushing defense. Not hard to figure out why it wasn't easy to run the last couple of weeks. Add to that being nicked up and that has more to do with the production that any problem really. Reports out of practice are that Cam practiced fully Tuesday with no lingering ill effects.

That is what I like to hear. I really need Cam to go out there and show them why he was the 3rd overall pick this weekend. Key playoff positioning is on the line (as well as my league championship ) so I need a marquee performance from him.

ATL's defense has been ravaged by injuries. Hell, the Bills were able to rack up points on them in Toronto a few weeks ago. Really hoping the real Killer Cam steps up and gives us a taste of what he has in store for the playoffs!

 

[Gandalf]

Where do you all think Cam Newton ranks in dynasty now? I was re-reading a thread from December 2011 (end of his first season) and many were thinking he should be the 1.01 overall pick in start up drafts. Now here we sit 3 seasons later. I'm sure his stock has fallen a bit - with his rushing stats down and the ball control offense - but I am thinking that with a WR in the draft and maybe another one via free agency, Cam could be a great buy low candidate. He's likely top 5 QB right now no matter who you ask but has the most upside possibly of any QB - and his rushing is like having another RB on your team. Thoughts?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

So - no Smith and maybe no LaFell or Ginn next year for the Cats.

Gosh their receivers are just flying away.

Who will be the cats' leading WR next year?

 

[ILUVBEER99]

So - no Smith and maybe no LaFell or Ginn next year for the Cats.

Gosh their receivers are just flying away.

Who will be the cats' leading WR next year?

if they can somehow get Decker or even Nicks it will be better than last year. But yes, it could get ugly. Even though LaFell/Ginn suck and Smith is a senior citizen losing all their WR's is gonna hurt if they don't sign a legit FA. Relying on rookies isn't gonna work.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

So - no Smith and maybe no LaFell or Ginn next year for the Cats.

Gosh their receivers are just flying away.

Who will be the cats' leading WR next year?

if they can somehow get Decker or even Nicks it will be better than last year. But yes, it could get ugly. Even though LaFell/Ginn suck and Smith is a senior citizen losing all their WR's is gonna hurt if they don't sign a legit FA. Relying on rookies isn't gonna work.

I just double checked their roster and I don't think, at a glance, that they have a WR with a single regular season catch. Even Hixon is gone.

Talk about relying on someone, has any QB relied on a single WR in their whole time in the league more than Newton has on SS?

 

[Gandalf]

Anyone else worry Cam might be set up for a year of regression based on the talent they bring in via the current WR free agents and rookies?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Another funny thing about this "leadership" issue is that Newton should already be leading. If you're "leading" then (alleged) disruptions like Smith don't occur, if you're keeping the locker room together you just are, if not then not.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Anyone else worry Cam might be set up for a year of regression based on the talent they bring in via the current WR free agents and rookies?

Yes, this is a ridiculous situation: think of Tom Brady for cryin' out loud, the guy lost 5 of his 7 top receivers and guess what someone who through for TD's in something like 50 straight games struggled to throw 0-1 in half of his games this year.

Newton will be without his top 4 WR's. Right now there is not a WR with a single NFL RS catch on his resume. Then there's Olsen and the RBs, but that's it.

And since Day 1 Smith has ben there for Newton, he has helped make Newton a productive thrower from his earliest games as a rookie - I think there's a real chicken or egg situation here.

I see trouble for Newt & the Cats both.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I don't think Carolina would have let Smith go if they weren't planning on bringing someone like Nicks in.

 

[The Commish]

Cam was completely reliant on Smith his first two years....not so much last year. Reality is, I'm more concerned about the OC and his ability to use the WR as a weapon of any sort. There are offensive line issues as well. Things are certainly a mess in panther nation right now.

 

[The Commish]

And IMO, the "leadership" thing is pure DG talking out his ### It's not like Smith hasn't been begging for WR help the last 5 years. DG handled this Smith thing very poorly.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I don't think Carolina would have let Smith go if they weren't planning on bringing someone like Nicks in.

That's funny because he's visiting Indy tomorrow.

 

[NCCommish]

I don't think Carolina would have let Smith go if they weren't planning on bringing someone like Nicks in.

That's funny because he's visiting Indy tomorrow.

Because he is fishing for a multi-year deal. He doesn't want a 1 year. He has said that multiple times.

 

[NCCommish]

And IMO, the "leadership" thing is pure DG talking out his ### It's not like Smith hasn't been begging for WR help the last 5 years. DG handled this Smith thing very poorly.

Rumor is that Smith was starting to wear on people in the locker room. And that he was talking trash about Shula. So supposedly they didn't want him poisoning Cam or the locker room going forward. This is all coming from "anonymous" so please give it the value you think it's worth.

 

[The Commish]

And IMO, the "leadership" thing is pure DG talking out his ### It's not like Smith hasn't been begging for WR help the last 5 years. DG handled this Smith thing very poorly.

Rumor is that Smith was starting to wear on people in the locker room. And that he was talking trash about Shula. So supposedly they didn't want him poisoning Cam or the locker room going forward. This is all coming from "anonymous" so please give it the value you think it's worth.

Yeah...heard the same thing. Plenty of complaints have come from a ton of different sources (players on the radio like Gross and Olsen etc) during his tenure here. I get that Gross retired, but I didn't think it was a secret that Shula wasn't a ground breaking OC. He had turned a corner for a bit the middle part of last season and then proceeded to regress to his former self the last third...at least IMO.

 

[The Fantasy Chef]

Can we get newton some targets please? I'm going nuts he's the staple I built my team around two years ago

 

[Tango]

Can we get newton some targets please? I'm going nuts he's the staple I built my team around two years ago

With Nicks to Colts the opportunities are narrowing.

This draft is known as the deepest for WRs in a decade, but this is a 12-4 team that shouldnt be waiting around for a rookie WR corps to hit its stride. They have to have a few tricks up their sleeve.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

Can we get newton some targets please? I'm going nuts he's the staple I built my team around two years ago

With Nicks to Colts the opportunities are narrowing.

This draft is known as the deepest for WRs in a decade, but this is a 12-4 team that shouldnt be waiting around for a rookie WR corps to hit its stride. They have to have a few tricks up their sleeve.

hopefully they do, i don't get why a 12-4 team would put themselves in a position to have to rely on rookies.

Currently they don't even have warm bodies at WR after losing all their starters. Pretty bizarre strategy they are using.

 

[The Fantasy Chef]

Can we get newton some targets please? I'm going nuts he's the staple I built my team around two years ago

With Nicks to Colts the opportunities are narrowing.

This draft is known as the deepest for WRs in a decade, but this is a 12-4 team that shouldnt be waiting around for a rookie WR corps to hit its stride. They have to have a few tricks up their sleeve.

hopefully they do, i don't get why a 12-4 team would put themselves in a position to have to rely on rookies.

Currently they don't even have warm bodies at WR after losing all their starters. Pretty bizarre strategy they are using.

I'm going nuts and frustrated with Carolina!

 

[Bojang0301]

Still time to fix it. Do what you can to get James Jones or Julian Edleman then try to get Mike Evans in the draft and lean on Olsen.

Edit to add: I've been looking at Tavarris King in my deep leagues in case Carolina sticks with this strategy. Lance Moore, Santonio Holmes and Jerricho Cotchery are out there and offer good veteran assistance... Probably better than SS at this point.

 

[cstu]

Still time to fix it. Do what you can to get James Jones or Julian Edleman then try to get Mike Evans in the draft and lean on Olsen.

Edit to add: I've been looking at Tavarris King in my deep leagues in case Carolina sticks with this strategy. Lance Moore, Santonio Holmes and Jerricho Cotchery are out there and offer good veteran assistance... Probably better than SS at this point.

I would sign James Jones and hope that Lee, Beckham or Cooks fall to them in the 1st. Evans won't make it past the Rams and would be too expensive to trade for.

 

[zamboni]

Still time to fix it. Do what you can to get James Jones or Julian Edleman then try to get Mike Evans in the draft and lean on Olsen.

Problem though is that this team could have the tools to win now. Can't expect a rookie WR to come in and be a big difference maker right away - if at all. And it's not like Cam is Brady where he can make a lot of also-ran WRs look good.

It's truly baffling why the Panthers still haven't gotten some key receiving weapons for Cam - that's three years running (can't include the rookie year) in the Cam era.

 

[Archer]

Still time to fix it. Do what you can to get James Jones or Julian Edleman then try to get Mike Evans in the draft and lean on Olsen.

Edit to add: I've been looking at Tavarris King in my deep leagues in case Carolina sticks with this strategy. Lance Moore, Santonio Holmes and Jerricho Cotchery are out there and offer good veteran assistance... Probably better than SS at this point.

I would sign James Jones and hope that Lee, Beckham or Cooks fall to them in the 1st. Evans won't make it past the Rams and would be too expensive to trade for.

I agree. I'd also give Britt a 1 year tryout.

 

[Sweetness_34]

Still time to fix it. Do what you can to get James Jones or Julian Edleman then try to get Mike Evans in the draft and lean on Olsen.

Problem though is that this team could have the tools to win now. Can't expect a rookie WR to come in and be a big difference maker right away - if at all. And it's not like Cam is Brady where he can make a lot of also-ran WRs look good.

It's truly baffling why the Panthers still haven't gotten some key receiving weapons for Cam - that's three years running (can't include the rookie year) in the Cam era.

Brady does not do that either. Did you watch the crappy performances this past year when he had to deal with Thompson; Dobson; nicked up Amendola and Edelman?

 

[NCCommish]

Still time to fix it. Do what you can to get James Jones or Julian Edleman then try to get Mike Evans in the draft and lean on Olsen.

Edit to add: I've been looking at Tavarris King in my deep leagues in case Carolina sticks with this strategy. Lance Moore, Santonio Holmes and Jerricho Cotchery are out there and offer good veteran assistance... Probably better than SS at this point.

I would sign James Jones and hope that Lee, Beckham or Cooks fall to them in the 1st. Evans won't make it past the Rams and would be too expensive to trade for.

I wouldn't mind seeing them bringing in Holmes and Jones then they could resign Lafell because he would be a 3rd or 4th.Which is what he is. I'd really like to see us grab Kelvin Benjamin in the first. A little raw but you can't teach 6'5"

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Still time to fix it. Do what you can to get James Jones or Julian Edleman then try to get Mike Evans in the draft and lean on Olsen.

Problem though is that this team could have the tools to win now. Can't expect a rookie WR to come in and be a big difference maker right away - if at all. And it's not like Cam is Brady where he can make a lot of also-ran WRs look good.

It's truly baffling why the Panthers still haven't gotten some key receiving weapons for Cam - that's three years running (can't include the rookie year) in the Cam era.

You know that really is something, what serious contributors have they brought in as FA and via the draft in all this time? LaFell and Ginn? I guess Olsen is an obvious one but it's funny, Panther fans should feel really lucky on that one because it was Martz in all his wisdom who for his one year had no role for a TE in Chicago and the Bears front office went along with that crazy, they were shopping him.

Newton has relied on Smith and they have encouraged him to rely on Smith and now they kick him out the door.

 

[RaiderBones]

DeAngelo Williams‏@DeAngeloRB4 mins

Well looking at things as they stand Jonathan and I will be high fantasy draft picks

 

[Sweetness_34]

DeAngelo Williams‏@DeAngeloRB4 mins

Well looking at things as they stand Jonathan and I will be high fantasy draft picks

No you will not. You and Jonathan suck

 

[Gandalf]

What the heck is Carolina doing??? How do you not give Cam any weapons?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

This is actually getting entertaining.

I'm starting to think well known free agent WRs are purposefully staying away.

 

[lod01]

This is actually getting entertaining.

I'm starting to think well known free agent WRs are purposefully staying away.

Exactly. When you can sign with Brady or Luck, why would you even consider signing with Carolina.

 

[Tango]

It's truly baffling why the Panthers still haven't gotten some key receiving weapons for Cam

This reminds me a little of McNabb in Philly. The one year they gave him TO, they dominated together. If they dont get top, young talent this year...then Cam will never hit a stride with a young WR while theyre both in their prime.

 

[False Start]

This is actually getting entertaining.

I'm starting to think well known free agent WRs are purposefully staying away.

Exactly. When you can sign with Brady or Luck, why would you even consider signing with Carolina.

I honestly think its owners underestimate how much respect Steve Smith has from players around the league and how other players can be turned off by a GMs actions. "You cut your franchise WR who has played for you and gave you his all, how would you do me?" Its what some are saying I'm sure, no doubt they are looking at other options.

Look at how players viewed Cleveland last year with Banner there.

 

[ldizzle]

I feel really bad for panther fans. If they dont go out and get jones and draft a wr, it will be a disappointment

 

[Max Power]

The Panthers now have watched their top four receivers from a year ago walk away this offseason. Smith, Brandon LaFell, Ted Ginn and Domenik Hixon all have new teams. That's a combined 156 receptions, 1,983 yards and 15 touchdowns. That represents 53.4 percent (receptions), 58.7 percent (receiving yards) and 62.5 percent (TD passes) of Cam Newton's 2013 production. Those receivers also combined for all but 55 yards and four catches of the receiving production in the playoff loss to the San Francisco 49ers.

Greg Olsen is back. He was the Panthers' leading receiver at tight end a year ago. Running backs Mike Tolbertand DeAngelo Williams combined for 53 catches and 517 yards and three TDs receiving a year ago. After that, it's scraps. Not another receiver still on the roster caught a pass last season.

Here's what's left at wideout: Marvin McNutt, Kealoha Pilares, Toney Clemons, Tavarres King, R.J. Webb, Brenton Bersin. Combined career NFL statistics of the six men: 29 games played, five catches, 83 yards, one touchdown.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

The Panthers now have watched their top four receivers from a year ago walk away this offseason. Smith, Brandon LaFell, Ted Ginn and Domenik Hixon all have new teams. That's a combined 156 receptions, 1,983 yards and 15 touchdowns. That represents 53.4 percent (receptions), 58.7 percent (receiving yards) and 62.5 percent (TD passes) of Cam Newton's 2013 production. Those receivers also combined for all but 55 yards and four catches of the receiving production in the playoff loss to the San Francisco 49ers.

Greg Olsen is back. He was the Panthers' leading receiver at tight end a year ago. Running backs Mike Tolbertand DeAngelo Williams combined for 53 catches and 517 yards and three TDs receiving a year ago. After that, it's scraps. Not another receiver still on the roster caught a pass last season.

Here's what's left at wideout: Marvin McNutt, Kealoha Pilares, Toney Clemons, Tavarres King, R.J. Webb, Brenton Bersin. Combined career NFL statistics of the six men: 29 games played, five catches, 83 yards, one touchdown.

Are these combined regular season stats? Who has the 5/83/1?

I see Pilares has lifetime 2/42/1, so that's impressive. That leaves 3/41/0 by Clemons, McNutt, King, Bersin and Webb are lifetime 0/0/0.

 

[cstu]

This is actually getting entertaining.

I'm starting to think well known free agent WRs are purposefully staying away.

Exactly. When you can sign with Brady or Luck, why would you even consider signing with Carolina.

I honestly think its owners underestimate how much respect Steve Smith has from players around the league and how other players can be turned off by a GMs actions. "You cut your franchise WR who has played for you and gave you his all, how would you do me?" Its what some are saying I'm sure, no doubt they are looking at other options.

Look at how players viewed Cleveland last year with Banner there.

Players know it's a business - even the Patriots let Welker walk after laying his body out making the toughest plays year after year.

 

[cstu]

James Jones now comes out and says he wants to play in Carolina.

WR James Jones just told me he wants this known: "I would love the opportunity to play for the Carolina Panthers. I would love to play with Cam (Newton)."

 

[cstu]

People seem down on Jones but he's better than Lafell and IMO Lee/Beckham/Cooks are better than Smith at this point.

 

[Bojang0301]

James Jones is very good when healthy. The market has a lot of high risk, high reward WRs that will not be demanding big salaries.