Johnny Utah #9
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If you somehow managed to survive and are still alive in the playoffs after the last five weeks playing this guy, I don’t know how you can start him going forward. Better off with a weekly streamer at that point.
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QB Dak Prescott, DAL (2 Viewers)
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Mister CIA
Footballguy
My plans B and C - Burrow and Wentz - are not faring any better. Since week 8 forward (which includes a bye for each), their total points scored are:
Then again, Joe Burrow threw for 416 yards and 3 TDs the last time he faced the Ravens, at Baltimore.
Pretty sure Dak will be my starter for week 16.
- Prescott - 123.30; week 16 vs WFT
- Burrow - 122.76; week 16 vs Ravens
- Wentz - 121.20; week 16 at Cardinals
Then again, Joe Burrow threw for 416 yards and 3 TDs the last time he faced the Ravens, at Baltimore.
Pretty sure Dak will be my starter for week 16.
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In the playoffs and you're going to stream a QB, seriously?
Dak is going up against one of the weakest pass defenses in the league. His timing/rhythm is off. This seems like a get right game.
I'm starting him:
280 yards, 2 TD's passing, 1 TD running.
TartanLion
Footballguy
Half pissed, half delighted with Dak and his offence. Made a deadline move for him in dynasty where I was light at QB and he crapped the bed 3 weeks in a row really and ended up bombing me out of my first round dynasty playoffs ( have Elliot, Schultz and Amari as well ).
Then again, I stuck with him in my re-draft semi this week and him Elliot and Schultz won me the week ( my teams seem Cowboy heavy this year ).
The home/road thing is real with this one. I don’t think I’ll have a problem starting him and his cohorts next week at home to Arizona
Then again, I stuck with him in my re-draft semi this week and him Elliot and Schultz won me the week ( my teams seem Cowboy heavy this year ).
The home/road thing is real with this one. I don’t think I’ll have a problem starting him and his cohorts next week at home to Arizona
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johnnyboy8102
Footballguy
It was nice to see him Dak scramble a few times as well. He only had 21 yards rushing but he seemed reluctant to scramble at all the past month.
matuski
Footballguy
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
johnnyboy8102
Footballguy
Obviously. I was insinuating he has been even more reluctant since the the calf strain.
Sorry, I was a little under on my projections
This week I have him or Murray. On the fence right now because of Murray's running ability.
What do u think?
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
This is a tough one because there’s a good chance these two will meet again in the playoffs so I would be worried that both are going to play things close to the vest.Sorry, I was a little under on my projections
This week I have him or Murray. On the fence right now because of Murray's running ability.
What do u think?
Cardinals need the W slightly more but the Cowboys D line is the closest thing we’ve seen since the Giants with Strahan, Tuck, Usi and company.
Yes, that's why I'm on the fence. I'm waiting to see if Connor and Moore play. That would lean me to Murray. Also, I think the Boys run the heck out of the ball this week.
Cowboys win 31-28
Top-8 NFL QB. He didn't commit 15+ penalties. Mike McCarthy lost that game.
Dak could have played better, but he got almost no help. Lamb couldn't catch a cold, Zeke had a piano on his back, and should be a backup, and penalties kept putting them in bad situations.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
He's a top 10 NFL QB for now, but his ceiling is limited. He has shown that he cannot win unless he gets a lot of help from the running game, and it seems like is intangibles are better than his tangibles, although not sure that is even true now after his atrocious decision at the end of today's game. An above average QB, but he cannot put a team on his back and carry them like the true elite QBs can.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Lifelong Cowboy fan here...
I love Dak as a person. Great team leader and seems like a great guy off the field. But does anyone in here have any confidence that the Dak era will be anything materially better than the Romo era? I don't see them winning a Super Bowl with Dak (especially while Jerry is GM). I just don't.
I love Dak as a person. Great team leader and seems like a great guy off the field. But does anyone in here have any confidence that the Dak era will be anything materially better than the Romo era? I don't see them winning a Super Bowl with Dak (especially while Jerry is GM). I just don't.
Lmao at top 8
Allen
Burrow
Mahomes
Herbert
Rodgers
Brady
Stafford
Murray
Wilson
All better than him
Hes in the Cousins, Carr, Tannehill tier
matuski
Footballguy
Steady Mooobin
Footballguy
Steady Mooobin
Footballguy
styleride85
Footballguy
Cowboys QB Dak Prescott disparaged fans for throwing bottles, debris at players. Then Prescott was told the fans were aiming for officiating crew. Prescott retracted. “A credit to them then.”
I'd take him over Stafford, and probably Murray at the moment(Murray is still developing though) I'd also certainly have him over Carr.
That said, I do have him even with Cousins, and behind Tannehill(who is the most underrated player in the NFL in my opinion) so maybe QB10 is more appropriate. Still, he'd be a clear QB upgrade for more than half the NFL.
Harry Frogfish
Footballguy
Most overrated/paid Coach-QB combo in history? Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
zoonation
Footballguy
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
I wrote what I wrote just before that hit the news. I'm very, very disappointed in Dak saying that.
This seems about right. Think he's not as good as Tannehill, but better than Carr and Cousins- but it is close.
Stafford and Murray? I have to think on that, but it is a reasonable assertion.
When you parse it out, Dak is not elite, but near the top of tier II, solid and good, but not great.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Easily 3/4 of the league wishes Dak was on their team.
Man...are fans ever fickle these days.
Man...are fans ever fickle these days.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Mans needs to read a rule book to know when to hand the ball to the ref instead of the center, but I don’t put that whole loss on Dak.
All but a handful of teams would love to have him. For example, I’d rather have Dak than JimmyG leading my Niners right now, and I believe he can be an elite QB. The year of the injury he showed how good he could be - dude was ballin out. Dallas just doesn’t have a good enough OL, among other challenges.
Also, gotta tip the cap to the Niners Defense, who despite losing Bosa and Warner, made some crucial stops in that insane 4th quarter. And played lights out before that as well. And the Niners were a much more disciplined team. IIRC they only had 1 penalty all game? Cowboys had 15 pre-snap penalties. That’s insane.
All but a handful of teams would love to have him. For example, I’d rather have Dak than JimmyG leading my Niners right now, and I believe he can be an elite QB. The year of the injury he showed how good he could be - dude was ballin out. Dallas just doesn’t have a good enough OL, among other challenges.
Also, gotta tip the cap to the Niners Defense, who despite losing Bosa and Warner, made some crucial stops in that insane 4th quarter. And played lights out before that as well. And the Niners were a much more disciplined team. IIRC they only had 1 penalty all game? Cowboys had 15 pre-snap penalties. That’s insane.
What has been lost in this conversation was the toughness shown by the Niners. We've focused so much on the Cowboys, but the reality is the Niners won the game much more than the Cowboys lost it.
Dak is a solid QB, better than many, but not elite.
styleride85
Footballguy
I agree on your second point. He shouldn't be written off so fast at all.
But 75% of the league at least? So that means you only 7 teams would pick their current qb over him?
Seattle would rather Wilson
GB would rather Rodgers
CInci would rather Burrow
Arizona would rather Kyler
Rams would rather Stafford
Buffalo would rather Allen
KC would rather Mahomes
Chargers would rather Herbert
Baltimore would rather Jackson
Which of these do you disagree with?
(There's probably others like LVR, Jax, Chi, NE who would't trade their qb straight up for Dak, but won't discuss those yet)
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Well said. Agree on all but the last point. I feel like Dak Prescott could be elite but the Cowboys need to fix a lot of things around him for that to happen. With the Departures of Gallup and Amari Cooper, that’s going to be somewhat difficult.
it also depends on how we are defining “elite“. Could he put up 4500 yards and 40 TDs with less than 20 interceptions? He could. Will he? I think that train has sailed.
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matuski
Footballguy
I agree with your list and also the additions at the end...
I don't think you write Dak off - he has simply repeatedly confirmed what he is. He is a sub par passer aided by athleticism. And he has talent around him.
All is well with Dak until it is all on Dak. He makes the plays that are setup for him, and he feasts on the bad teams.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That’s the thing though - I’m not sure the bolded is entirely accurate. It’s more situationally accurate.
I’ve seen Dak make some incredible plays when he had to make them. After the JimmyG turnover, you knew Dak was gonna get a TD there, and he delivered with a decisive rushing play (against a defense without their 2 best players)
The Cowboys 1st TD drive finale was also one of those decisive plays with an accurate deep shot.
What it seems more like is that Dak is situationally bad, and definitely he was definitely bad under duress - when he had time to find his guys, he mostly made big plays. When he had even a little pressure, he was JimmyG II, at best. He was inaccurate, hasty in his release, and didn’t really stand tall in the pocket.
He was up & down all game, but he was also under pressure all game.
I feel like your statement is fair, but it’s partly Dak, and partly the Dallas OL.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I'd say GB is actually a possibility, depending on how tired they are of Rodgers emotionally blackmailing them.
And I think Baltimore is close to a wash.
No way the LVR don’t swap qbs. Chicago would but salary difference maybe not. NE would.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
All 3 of those teams would rather have Dak without hesitation. Raiders might trade Carr regardless of what QB they might be forced to go with next year (which I think would be a mistake).
GreenNGold
Footballguy
Lol no
I'd say GB is actually a possibility, depending on how tired they are of Rodgers emotionally blackmailing them.
And I think Baltimore is close to a wash.
SproutDaddy
Footballguy
Bahahaha. And I’m not a Dallas fan.jobarules said:
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
We're losing the narrative here. In no way am I saying Prescott is better than Rodgers.
I am saying that GB would love to have Dak on the roster in case things go sideways with AR.
And Kyler Murray is just a smaller Prescott. #shotfired
