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QB Daniel Jones, IND (1 Viewer)

Boston said:
BassNBrew said:
Faust said:
Giants to 'evaluate' QB position after Daniel Jones struggles
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Boston said:
Rams could be a really nice fit...Stafford will be 37 in February...Jones could reset for a year or two under McVay and possibly be their QB of the future.
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McVay didn’t want Goff. Why would he want Jones?
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I don't understand the point of this post.
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If Goff wasn’t good enough to be the QB of the future for him then I doubt Danny Dimes will be.
 
BassNBrew said:
Boston said:
BassNBrew said:
Faust said:
Giants to 'evaluate' QB position after Daniel Jones struggles
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Boston said:
Rams could be a really nice fit...Stafford will be 37 in February...Jones could reset for a year or two under McVay and possibly be their QB of the future.
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McVay didn’t want Goff. Why would he want Jones?
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I don't understand the point of this post.
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If Goff wasn’t good enough to be the QB of the future for him then I doubt Danny Dimes will be.
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I still don't really understand the comparison...Rams were starting Goff and knew what they had...Jones would be a backup to Stafford that they could try to rebuild while not having to commit big $ to (or commit to being their QB of the future)...two totally different scenarios.
 
Some of these posts are hard to understand to be honest, he's not good, he's been in the league for SIX years and been given multiple chances, he's not anybody's future. He'll make a decent backup/spot starter. That is it, the end.
 
The Big Donkey said:
www.espn.com

Sources: Ex-Giant Jones to eye playoff contender

Former Giants quarterback Daniel Jones is expected to clear waivers Monday and have a new home on a one-year deal soon, sources told ESPN.
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What's the source? Is Jones saying this himself or is this some espn writer? They are quoting Barkley so maybe it's hinting at him joining the Eagles? Maybe I just have no clue what nfl players want, I would THINK that if his goal was playing time he'd have a better chance of that elsewhere but if his goal was to try to get a ring then that makes sense.
 
At 27 in the hardest position to play in sports he is gonna get another shot somewhere. Not this year. Maybe not next year, but he will get another shot. See Bryce Young people that already said he is done. NFL landsape changes so quickly and it just takes one team. All my opinion.
 
So is he getting to pick a short term home for rest of this season, then getting released to pick a long term home in the off season?
 
Well. He’s a Viking.

And as someone who takes many chances to criticize Daniel Jones.

I’m not sure I see it.

I guess he gives them a solid backup in a season that is headed in a good direction, and if it keeps going that way allows them to make a better decision to let Darnold walk if he pushes far into the playoffs?

Someone tell me how to react to this signing.
 
VikingFrog said:
Well. He’s a Viking.

And as someone who takes many chances to criticize Daniel Jones.

I’m not sure I see it.

I guess he gives them a solid backup in a season that is headed in a good direction, and if it keeps going that way allows them to make a better decision to let Darnold walk if he pushes far into the playoffs?

Someone tell me how to react to this signing.
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Very QB-friendly environment.

Good for Daniel. He can relax, regroup, and most importantly... he's far away from the toxicity of NYG.
 
VikingFrog said:
Well. He’s a Viking.

And as someone who takes many chances to criticize Daniel Jones.

I’m not sure I see it.

I guess he gives them a solid backup in a season that is headed in a good direction, and if it keeps going that way allows them to make a better decision to let Darnold walk if he pushes far into the playoffs?

Someone tell me how to react to this signing.
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:coffee:
 
Copilot came up with the following.

Daniel Jones signing with the Minnesota Vikings could be a smart move for several reasons:

Depth and Security: With Sam Darnold as the starter and J.J. McCarthy recovering from knee surgery, Jones adds valuable depth to the quarterback position. This ensures the Vikings have a reliable backup in case of injuries.

Potential Upside: Jones has shown flashes of potential in the past. Under the right coaching and system, he could rediscover his form and contribute significantly. The Vikings' offensive scheme, led by Kevin O'Connell, is known for maximizing player potential.

Mobility and Versatility: Jones' mobility can add a new dimension to the Vikings' offense. He can be utilized in specific packages that take advantage of his running ability, making the offense more diverse and unpredictable.

Low Risk, High Reward: Jones is signing a team-friendly contract, which means the financial risk for the Vikings is minimal. If he performs well, it could be a high-reward situation for both the team and Jones.

Playoff Contender: The Vikings are currently in playoff contention. Joining a competitive team gives Jones a chance to be part of a winning environment, which could help him regain confidence and improve his game.

Overall, this move provides the Vikings with a solid backup option and gives Jones an opportunity to revive his career in a supportive and competitive setting. What do you think about this move?
 
I like this move for MIN and DJ.

For MIN .... they get a QB with a lot of starts that can backup Darnold for a playoff run. They also get a little bit of a negotiating toy in Darnold contract negotiations this off season by the threat that DJ could take over.

For DJ ... I'm no fan as my posts will indicate. But I do believe QBs often need a second chance elsewhere under a different OC. It gets him into a team that has a starting QB on a 1 year deal. It keeps him employed. It puts him with a classy organization. Something the NYGs are the opposite of. He can then shop his services this offseason if he needs to.
 
Let me tell you what it was like to struggle in NY. No let me tell you what it was like to struggle in NY.

Gotta be interesting conversations.

Good choice by him. It seems a good setup to get yourself together.

IIRC they have Mullens and Mark Rypien's kid too so I doubt he's even doing anything this week on a holiday week. They probably just have him get settled.
 
The back up is Nick Mullens. I thing the Vikings practice is squad is his safe harbour for the season. He can sign with any team from the practice squad with no repercussions. Barring injury I don't think the Vikings put him on the 53.

I think Jones would prefer to work on his game without the stress of starting. I think he wants to continue his career as a backup and doesn't want to end up totally out of football like Ryan Tannehill.
 
I see a lot of misinformed posts about Jones status with the team. Here is a reminder how the practice squad works. https://www.hogshaven.com/2023/8/28...ctice-squad-rules-eligibility-salary-and-more
Practice squad basics


  • Practice squad players practice with the team. They do not play in games, unless they are elevated (see above)
  • Practice squad players are paid per week and can be released at any point during the season.
  • Practice squad players are free to sign with other NFL teams, but they have to be signed to the 53-man active roster of the acquiring team. A practice squad player cannot be signed to another practice squad unless he is first released or waived.
  • A practice squad player can not sign with his team’s upcoming opponent, unless he does so six days before the upcoming game or 10 days if his team is currently on a bye week.
  • If a practice squad player is signed to the active roster, he will receive a minimum of three weekly paychecks, even if he is released before spending three weeks with the new team.
  • In order to be signed to a practice squad after being released, a player who is not a vested veteran must first clear waivers, and is subject to waiver claims by other teams.
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Maybe we’ll see something like a Geno Smith career arc. Two players not NFL ready - drafted by two NY/NJ teams that aren’t NFL ready -eventually join teams that know what they’re doing. I’m not sure Jones is any good, but it’s hard to evaluate someone in the middle of a dumpster fire. Clean slate is warranted.
 
He's friends with the Mannings, I'm sure they reached out to say that he should find the right fit since he has lots of options (10 teams?).

Raiders were an easy no. He just left an organization that had turnstile OCs, didn't believe in building the OL or provide receiving weapons. Raiders are the same - no reason to leave 1 dysfunction for another. Career killer even if its a starter spot.

Minny is interesting for the coaching history with QBs, dome, and actually has higher end WRs/TE. Good for him to experience the atmosphere and a play-off run.
 
McBokonon said:
Maybe we’ll see something like a Geno Smith career arc. Two players not NFL ready - drafted by two NY/NJ teams that aren’t NFL ready -eventually join teams that know what they’re doing. I’m not sure Jones is any good, but it’s hard to evaluate someone in the middle of a dumpster fire. Clean slate is warranted.
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Don't see a Geno 2.0 with Jones
Been watching him for 6 years
On the tube and live
He still doesn't throw an accurate deep pass
He still forces the ball at the worst time
He still doesn't make the right read on a consistent basis
6 years no improvement
I still say he has a place in the league as an H-back
Taysom Hill 2.0
Not Geno 2.0
 
travdogg said:
Faust said:
Dianna Russini
The Vikings and Colts are expected to be the leading contenders to sign Daniel Jones, per source.

The 27 year old will most likely have to make a decision: play for HC Kevin O’Connell or HC Shane Steichen
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I think there is a WAY better chance of beating out Anthony Richardson than JJ McCarthy.
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Giants should try to get Richardson for a 4th or 5th throw in Devito so we dont have to see or hear from him again
 
That contract for 1 year is more than what AR5 is owed for the next 2.

Almost feels like they are preparing for Jones to start unless AR5 does something unexpected.
 
Terpman22 said:
JohnnyU said:
I can see Jones being better than he ever was in NY.
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I am intrigued!
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New York had bad O line problems. This is a definite upgrade for him (if he actually plays)

but right now, I still think its Richardsons team. but it sounds like it might be a QB competition. Danny Dimes throws a more accurate ball and the offense as a whole is far better than what he had to work with in New York. but there is the possibility he has been ruined as a player in New York. Though he still flashes from time to time so I wouldnt write him off just yet. If Richardson regresses (or doesnt improve) I can see Danny Dimes getting some significant playing time.
 
I would think Jones would do MUCH better behind that stout Indy line than what he had in NY. Plus he has better weapons in the passing game too. Might be a very sneaky buy low.
 
menobrown said:
travdogg said:
TheDirtyWord said:
That contract for 1 year is more than what AR5 is owed for the next 2.

Almost feels like they are preparing for Jones to start unless AR5 does something unexpected.
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That's the most likely scenario in my eyes.
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Total 180 opinion and I think it's silly to compare a veteran contract to someone stuck on a rookie year deal as some kind of basis for depth chart standing.
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I agree. Putting it as simply as I can, best QB wins.
 
JohnnyU said:
menobrown said:
travdogg said:
TheDirtyWord said:
That contract for 1 year is more than what AR5 is owed for the next 2.

Almost feels like they are preparing for Jones to start unless AR5 does something unexpected.
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That's the most likely scenario in my eyes.
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Total 180 opinion and I think it's silly to compare a veteran contract to someone stuck on a rookie year deal as some kind of basis for depth chart standing.
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I agree. Putting it as simply as I can, best QB wins.
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My opinion as I stated a few times yesterday is Jones will need to be a lot better. To me it as simple as the long term outlook for the franchise is better off if Richardson steps up so they'll want him to prevail and give him every opportunity.
 
I would also add I do agree that Jones will look better then he ever has. Hard not to and I don't mean because of the low bar, just how awful everything was for him with the Giants. The half a year studying at the KOC QB school does not hurt either.
 
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I would think Jones would do MUCH better behind that stout Indy line than what he had in NY. Plus he has better weapons in the passing game too. Might be a very sneaky buy low.
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40% of the Colts expected starting O-line is now in Minny
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I always thought Ryan Kelly was overrated. He hasn't performed well the last few years and he's been injured a lot too. Fries was OK, but not the strength of the line either.
 
I'm surprised how many positive reviews I've heard about him.
It IS hard to judge a QB behind a bad line with questionable targets.
It's a stark contrast to when the Giants let him walk a few months ago and he literally did nothing in that time.

One ouch thing I heard was "he's an NFL QB and Richardson is not, so he'll start."

I haven't kept up with Richardson so well. I didn't know he doesn't necessarily put the time or learning in that the Colts want him to.

I thought Richardson was way over drafted after Malik Willis and that they had some similarities. I want to know if the Colts have spent a lot of time discussing the Willis package that Lafleur used. Lafleur (and the Pack OL for changing up systematically so well) was so sharp with that.

One thing I've often thought about some of these mobile QBs is a defiant "but why not!" Every team says they could put a package in but they don't. Maybe they practice it in the summer but it gets brushed aside. Why not use it?

I do genuinely believe the Pack and Colts would be a pain in the neck if they did this.

Jones can hand to Taylor and throw simple common patterns and yawn their way down to the 20. In comes Richardson.

I also support David Letterman's two QB theory. It's mocked n mocked but I don't believe it won't work.
Richardson at RB. There's like five ways the D will be frozen if he touches the ball. Yeah he looks like nothing if Jones takes the snap but I'd bet $ a LB is wasted spying him and doesnt that help Jones?

I am an enormous fan of Armanti Edwards and Randall Cobb in college. I don't believe they couldn't do their thing in the NFL and had to be changed.

I don't understand the lack of innovation by the NFL. Every other super fast talented athlete gets utilized except the backup QB
 
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