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QB Jameis Winston, NYG (2 Viewers)

Right here doosh. It's like his 8th possession of his first game. Not calling it a career yet.

Lovie is way way way worse than Jameis anyhow. Is Winston playing defense?

 
That might be the worst debut I've ever seen.

He looked lost. I don't think he was even going thru his reads.

TB has to improve their oline if they are going to give him any chance.

 
Capella said:
Right here doosh. It's like his 8th possession of his first game. Not calling it a career yet.

Lovie is way way way worse than Jameis anyhow. Is Winston playing defense?
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So the current excuse is HC and defense. :thumbup: Your good talent evaluators can figure out if a guy has it or not before they even play a down in the NFL. This guy doesn't have it like we told you.

 
lod01 said:
Capella said:
Right here doosh. It's like his 8th possession of his first game. Not calling it a career yet.

Lovie is way way way worse than Jameis anyhow. Is Winston playing defense?
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So the current excuse is HC and defense. :thumbup: Your good talent evaluators can figure out if a guy has it or not before they even play a down in the NFL. This guy doesn't have it like we told you.
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The defense the head coach runs gave up 35 points. How could it not be placed on them? :lmao: :mellow:

Sure Jameis played horrible but with a decent defense it's a 21-13 type of game. But I'm glad all of this has been sorted out after 1 game. RG3 was a stud after year 1 too. :thumbup:

 
I expected over reactions, but this is surprising even by Shark Pool standards. Calm down people.

Winston is going to throw at least 20 interceptions this season and the Bucs are not going to win a lot of games. Jameis just needs to concentrate on winning the war, not today's battle. The last QB to start his career with a pick6? Brett Favre. Winston has a long way to be a bad version of Favre, but as long as Winston makes strides throughout the season and continues to keep in the film room...he'll be okay.

 
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Banana boy is already starting to blame the coach instead. I love it.
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You're one of the most ignorant people in this thread if you disagree. 56 (IIRC?) at ATL last year, and 42 against a rookie with no premier weapons to kick off this season. Lovie needs to go. Obviously, that is only part of the problem.

 
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Mariota might have won the game but Jameis draws things better on a white board.

 
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It's only one game. First game goes to Mariota. As a Bucs fan who is on record as preferring Mariota, I hope that Winston improves and becomes the stud we hope he will. :nervous:

 
Coaches are definitely not good. Period. That is also a point that is at least somewhat mutually exclusive from the question whether or not JW is a good QB right now and/or will develop into a franchise QB.

TB has some pieces on both sides of the ball. However, they are weak at very key positions in the trenches: OG, LT, DE. They have a budding TE, very good WRs, serviceable RBs. They have very good interior DL, LB, and good at CB. They have average-to-poor coaching.

With the pieces they have, they should be competitive in a weak division, even with a rookie QB who didn't play well in game 1. If TB goes below .500, clean house at the coaching level and go from there.

As much as I'm a Glennon defender and think he got screwed over in not getting a shot to play a full season, I think they have to do everything they can to build JW into a franchise QB. If they go to Glennon at any point this year, it risks torpedoing the #1 pick in the draft waaay too soon. Glennon will have to hope for a change of scenery.

 
lod01 said:
rustycolts said:
kOOk said:
Banana boy is already starting to blame the coach instead. I love it.
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I don't think he is wrong its the whole package in Tampa.Coaches ,front office,players.Its just snafu in Tampa.
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Including a disastrous pick in the 1st round of the 2015 draft.
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Oh yea I fully agree with that.I was hoping against hope that the Bucs wouldn't pull a bone head move with the #1 pick but they stuck to form.

 
How bad must it have sucked for everyone in the Tampa Bay organization to see that #1 pick golden boy is a flop, while watching the guy they should have taken throw for 4 touchdowns?

 
Regardless of how these two stories go, probably not the best time to pick the Lovie narrative since the titans were arguably just as bad as the bucs last year.

 
I screwed up for sure. I only targeted NFC South defenses when really I should just stream EVERY defense against theBucs.

Good thing he's confident and has a short memory. More INTs for my upcoming defenses.

 
Bronco Billy said:
Wow. 1 game and his career is over. And at the same time Mariotta is the next coming.

Quite an impact game, this was.
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Yeah, funny that his is over yet Bortles had half a season of games like this, matched that dismal play again today and is still the second coming.
 
One day Tampa will invest in quality Olinemen. I pray. Thought crab legs threw a lot of bad passes at FSU and sure did today. Feels more like Ryan Leaf than Manning.

 
addicted2ff said:
jurb26 said:
Bronco Billy said:
Wow. 1 game and his career is over. And at the same time Mariotta is the next coming.

Quite an impact game, this was.
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Yeah, funny that his is over yet Bortles had half a season of games like this, matched that dismal play again today and is still the second coming.
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Nah Bortles is pretty terrible as well.
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Agree Bortles is no good. It appears Winston isn't either. He's going to face much better Defenses

 
Winston threw more TDs and fewer picks than Peyton Manning in his first game. Also Andrew Luck in his first game.

I saw good and bad stuff. It's his first game. This thread is just insane.

 
Bronco Billy said:
Wow. 1 game and his career is over. And at the same time Mariotta is the next coming.

Quite an impact game, this was.
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More confirming than anything. Some Bucs fans put on blinders and filtered out a lot of stuff, both on the field and off, that they didn't want to see. But, for everyone else, it was right on script. Should have taken the kid from Oregon and let someone else take the FSU dirt bag.

 
Frostillicus said:
Winston threw more TDs and fewer picks than Peyton Manning in his first game. Also Andrew Luck in his first game.

I saw good and bad stuff. It's his first game. This thread is just insane.
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I think people are just having "light-hearted" (isn't that what we call idiotic, knee-jerk reactions in the FFA where we mess with people for no reason?) fun laughing at an accused rapist, thief, and general man-about-town jerk.

I don't think anybody is extrapolating his first game in the NFL into something it isn't.

If you can't laugh at Jameis vs. Mariota today, something might be wrong with your sense of humor and righteousness.

Or you're just a sports prude, needing a hyperbolic counter-narrative to all of the idiot narration.

Either way, it's twitty.

Mariota threw for four with ####. Jameis had weapons and an OL and did nothing.

LOL.

 
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Mariota threw for four with ####. Jameis had weapons and an OL and did nothing.
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I get that you say you are "having fun" with this biut if you think JW had weapons (Evans was out) and an OL (probably the worst in the league) then you just aren't paying attention.

 
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Capella said:
Mariota threw for four with ####. Jameis had weapons and an OL and did nothing.
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I get that you say you are "having fun" with this biut if you think JW had weapons (Evans was out) and an OL (probably the worst in the league) then you just aren't paying attention.
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I wanted Ali Marpet in a mock draft here for the Jets. Does that suffice? I think your OL is okay; many teams have dealt. Let's not put this on the line, which is pretty good, and one that most teams would take. Mankins?

Seriously, I know Evans is out, but if you can't laugh about four touchdowns vs. Jameis's team you're taking this too seriously. But this thread is...serious.

I know. Jameis will adjust. He's smart. He's awesome. Cannon.

I actually don't doubt it; but c'mon for a day. This came to a head. Yikes.

eta* I mean, how much sense does Marpet make for the Jets and their OL depth? Jeez.

 
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rockaction said:
Capella said:
Mariota threw for four with ####. Jameis had weapons and an OL and did nothing.
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I get that you say you are "having fun" with this biut if you think JW had weapons (Evans was out) and an OL (probably the worst in the league) then you just aren't paying attention.
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I wanted Ali Marpet in a mock draft here for the Jets. Does that suffice? I think your OL is okay; many teams have dealt. Let's not put this on the line, which is pretty good, and one that most teams would take. Mankins?

Seriously, I know Evans is out, but if you can't laugh about four touchdowns vs. Jameis's team you're taking this too seriously. But this thread is...serious.

I know. Jameis will adjust. He's smart. He's awesome. Cannon.

I actually don't doubt it; but c'mon for a day. This came to a head. Yikes.

eta* I mean, how much sense does Marpet make for the Jets and their OL depth? Jeez.
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I'm not taking it serious. It's honestly hysterical to me to see the overreaction and lack of general knowledge here.

Marpet was a good pick and will be a good player but he's not yet. The line run blocked well but the pass blocking was atrocious. I'm sure the PFF numbers will back that up.

 
Capella said:
rockaction said:
Capella said:
Mariota threw for four with ####. Jameis had weapons and an OL and did nothing.
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I get that you say you are "having fun" with this biut if you think JW had weapons (Evans was out) and an OL (probably the worst in the league) then you just aren't paying attention.
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I wanted Ali Marpet in a mock draft here for the Jets. Does that suffice? I think your OL is okay; many teams have dealt. Let's not put this on the line, which is pretty good, and one that most teams would take. Mankins?

Seriously, I know Evans is out, but if you can't laugh about four touchdowns vs. Jameis's team you're taking this too seriously. But this thread is...serious.

I know. Jameis will adjust. He's smart. He's awesome. Cannon.

I actually don't doubt it; but c'mon for a day. This came to a head. Yikes.

eta* I mean, how much sense does Marpet make for the Jets and their OL depth? Jeez.
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I'm not taking it serious. It's honestly hysterical to me to see the overreaction and lack of general knowledge here. Marpet was a good pick and will be a good player but he's not yet. The line run blocked well but the pass blocking was atrocious. I'm sure the PFF numbers will back that up.
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if you don't admit that you're a little bit worried, you're just a liar. No one could have possibly watched that game yesterday and not walked away realizing Tampa made a huge mistake.
 
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JuniorNB said:
Capella said:
rockaction said:
Capella said:
Mariota threw for four with ####. Jameis had weapons and an OL and did nothing.
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I get that you say you are "having fun" with this biut if you think JW had weapons (Evans was out) and an OL (probably the worst in the league) then you just aren't paying attention.
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I wanted Ali Marpet in a mock draft here for the Jets. Does that suffice? I think your OL is okay; many teams have dealt. Let's not put this on the line, which is pretty good, and one that most teams would take. Mankins?

Seriously, I know Evans is out, but if you can't laugh about four touchdowns vs. Jameis's team you're taking this too seriously. But this thread is...serious.

I know. Jameis will adjust. He's smart. He's awesome. Cannon.

I actually don't doubt it; but c'mon for a day. This came to a head. Yikes.

eta* I mean, how much sense does Marpet make for the Jets and their OL depth? Jeez.
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I'm not taking it serious. It's honestly hysterical to me to see the overreaction and lack of general knowledge here. Marpet was a good pick and will be a good player but he's not yet. The line run blocked well but the pass blocking was atrocious. I'm sure the PFF numbers will back that up.
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if you don't admit that you're a little bit worried, you're just a liar. No one could have possibly watched that game yesterday and not walked away realizing Tampa made a huge mistake.
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Not worried even a little bit. No decisions in the NFL have ever been vindicated in week 1. As many have said, everybody anointed RG3 after his first game too.

 
trader jake said:
I expected over reactions, but this is surprising even by Shark Pool standards. Calm down people.

Winston is going to throw at least 20 interceptions this season and the Bucs are not going to win a lot of games. Jameis just needs to concentrate on winning the war, not today's battle. The last QB to start his career with a pick6? Brett Favre. Winston has a long way to be a bad version of Favre, but as long as Winston makes strides throughout the season and continues to keep in the film room...he'll be okay.
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Favre's first pass was a completion to himself.

 
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