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QB Jimmy Garoppolo, LAR (2 Viewers)
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
This is my shocked face, 
Tanner9919
Footballguy
it's the right call, and SF is going to spank the Lions. Lance may get mop-up duty, but he's not ready for primetime. maybe 2nd half of the season. The love for Lance is just plain comical at this point. You put that kid in a game against Detroit and he gets destroyed, you've ruined him forever. let him sit for 1/2 a season, or more. Jimmy G is more than capable.
zamboni
Footballguy
Good article. It will be interesting to see if Jimmy keeps the job as long as he's healthy and the team is winning. Or if Shanny instead pulls a Brian Flores, who went with his franchise guy Tua early even when Fitzpatrick was winning games.
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The Frankman
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Wingnut
Footballguy
Martellus Bennet goes all in on Jimmy G
Appearing on the Double Coverage podcast with Jason and Devin McCourty, Bennett had some strong comments about Garoppolo’s performance in 2016, when Tom Brady served a four-game #DeflateGate suspension.
“Bro, we lost two games [without Brady],” Bennett told the McCourtys, via NBCSportsBoston.com. (Actually, they lost only one game during Brady’s absence.) “One of them was because Jimmy Garoppolo was being a (word for female dog). He decided not to play right before the game. Jacoby [Brissett] came out and played with a f####d up thumb and played his heart out, but Jimmy was just being a (word for female dog) about it all.
“That’s why he . . . you can’t win with a (word for female dog) for a quarterback, first of all. That was the whole thing with him. He didn’t want to come out and do anything because his agent was trying to protect his body or some (s-word) like that. Which, I can’t fault him for that. But like, you should have made that decision on Thursday. Now it’s Sunday.
Appearing on the Double Coverage podcast with Jason and Devin McCourty, Bennett had some strong comments about Garoppolo’s performance in 2016, when Tom Brady served a four-game #DeflateGate suspension.
“Bro, we lost two games [without Brady],” Bennett told the McCourtys, via NBCSportsBoston.com. (Actually, they lost only one game during Brady’s absence.) “One of them was because Jimmy Garoppolo was being a (word for female dog). He decided not to play right before the game. Jacoby [Brissett] came out and played with a f####d up thumb and played his heart out, but Jimmy was just being a (word for female dog) about it all.
“That’s why he . . . you can’t win with a (word for female dog) for a quarterback, first of all. That was the whole thing with him. He didn’t want to come out and do anything because his agent was trying to protect his body or some (s-word) like that. Which, I can’t fault him for that. But like, you should have made that decision on Thursday. Now it’s Sunday.
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zamboni
Footballguy
Who knows what he's really thinking, but could very well be a hedge in case Lance isn't ready by next week.
drummer
Footballguy
He went 15/19 182 yards 2 tds against the Rams. With a run game that was dominant against a Rams defense that got gashed against the run. This is game manager QB stuff for the kind of money he is getting paid for. He was a lot better on 3rd down than the previous games.
His ceiling is game manager at best who needs a dominant run game and defense. But he is very handsome, which is why Jed York gave him a fat contract.
His ceiling is game manager at best who needs a dominant run game and defense. But he is very handsome, which is why Jed York gave him a fat contract.
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drummer
Footballguy
I dunno how impressive that is being that he only had one full season as a starting QB since 2016.
If you're going to pick cherries, at least pick the ones from a bigger batch.
cloppbeast
Footballguy
What stat do you prefer to look at? Ypa, tdpa, qbr, QB rating? And what batch do you want to pick, other than all of Jimmy's games?
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drummer
Footballguy
He has a total of 39 starts in 5 seasons with SF. 8 of those road wins came in 2019, the only season where he started all 16 regular season games. Add 3 road wins in 2017, 0 in 2018, 3 in 2020, and 4 this season.
Hell you can make a case that Garopollo on the road is what leads him to IR or inactive, which happened in a loss against KC in 2018, and a loss against SEA in 2020. Not exactly a road warrior if you actually looked that up.
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drummer
Footballguy
It's a junk stat that probably came from a tweet just for clickbait. Playing entire seasons matter, 16 road wins in mostly truncated seasons are what they are, it's not hating or anything. Your existence might be predicated on junk stats, that's not the issue either. It's just a poor stat that doesn't mean anything other than it over a span of 4 1/2 seasons.
Your above quote doesn't delineate or deliberate the stat or any number. You just hate the messenger, and that's ok. But the numbers are the numbers, and that's what you hate.
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TampaMike19
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Need to stream him next week in the Vikings shootout apparently
Wingnut
Footballguy
drummer
Footballguy
You mean stream him against the QB Shanahan really wanted?
Looking at the head to head:
Cousins: 21 tds, 2 ints (! is this right?) throughout this weekend
Handsome Jimmy: 12 tds, 5 ints
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TampaMike19
Footballguy
Looking for a bye week replacement and feel be will be adequate in what I think should be a decent over under game. Minnesota is playing high flying offense on the road
drummer
Footballguy
Garoppollo over the past two games around 20 attempts per game for around 200 yards, with 2tds each. Reason why is the 49ers were able to run the ball. Key is Jimmy Handsome didn't turn the ball over in each of the past two games. Which means one turnover from Jimmy Face is worth six more attempts from him. Two turnovers from Jimmy Face is worth twice as much.
Get Jimmy Face over 30 attempts on the road, and profit from his turnovers.
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Scooby1974
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Jimmy = expensive Mac Jones.
Above average QB with great Def and running game. Without those two things, he is middle of the pack or slightly worse.
Would not want to start him in fake football though.
Above average QB with great Def and running game. Without those two things, he is middle of the pack or slightly worse.
Would not want to start him in fake football though.
drummer
Footballguy
Jones hasn't missed a start either, whereas Garopollo again has only played one full regular season as a starter his entire NFL career to date and missed a start already this season.
This isn't "hating on Jimmy" lol. I'd figure people who play fantasy football at bit more pragmatic and agnostic because it comes down to numbers and value. Jones is a rookie with more upside however, while Garopollo is still rumored to be traded in the offseason.
This isn't "hating on Jimmy" lol. I'd figure people who play fantasy football at bit more pragmatic and agnostic because it comes down to numbers and value. Jones is a rookie with more upside however, while Garopollo is still rumored to be traded in the offseason.
Scooby1974
Footballguy
Yup, Niner fan here.
I know I didn't take you "hating on Jimmy". Big difference between hating and being objective about weaknesses.
Jim and Jones are good real world system QBs. If their systems are working (great D and run game) they can do enough to not screw it up and then some. But we have very rarely seen Jim be able to carry the team on his back with big games.
My view as well and typically with a guy like JG when he gets into that big game and he and he alone has to do something, he can't.
He is a fitzpatrick without the flash. If we was a FA nobody would be excited by him and he would probably bounce from team to team struggling to find a home as everyone realizes he is just good enough to be a starter but not good enough to take you anywhere
drummer
Footballguy
The "hatin" stuff was over people hatin on me for pushing back on the road stat. Wins aren't a QB stat IMO. Steve Young used to say "when you go on the road, pack your defense and special teams". Having Robbie Gould and a defense helps.
drummer
Footballguy
The first time I heard the words "hospital ball" was over Garopollo's throws lol. Like landing a player like Kittle on the IR because of how risky some of his passes are. In Shanahan's offense, you need a dominant run game to set up the play action. A dominant run game nullifies pass rushers. If Garopollo had to throw more than say 24-30 attempts per game, things start to leak. He doesn't have a big arm, he doesn't have wheels to help him evade the rush, and he needs to get the ball out quick or else he winds up into a sack, fumble, or in the hospital himself. He doesn't have the greatest pocket presence either. But everything got magnified more because of what the 49ers gave up to pick Lance. That's a lot of draft capitol to spend on a pick. If Garopollo isn't hearing footsteps from a pass rusher, he is hearing footsteps from Lance. That's gotta be on the back of his mind because he knows where his future lies in that snake pit of the 49er front office (just look at what they did to Buckner), which could be a good thing if Garopollo had greater upside (he might, that remains to be seen), but his ceiling to me is game manager who can't turn the ball over because he's not a QB that can throw his way out of games where they're behind on the scoreboard.
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cloppbeast
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People say you're hatin' because you're like 4 of the last 6 posts on this thread dogging on Jimmy the whole time. The road win stat, perhaps is not a QB stat, but what is the 49ers record when somebody else plays?
You're dogging Jimmy G would be more reasoned if it wasn't the bandwagon take. The dogpile is over the top here.
Anybody standing up for him isn't saying he's a stud. Why can't a guy be an average starting qb? There's no shame in it.
Scooby1974
Footballguy
Wingnut
Footballguy
Most 49er fans just like the team, root for them and enjoy the wins without having to dissect every little issue or imperfection.
All some people here do is trash the team, players, ownership, and any fan who refuses to agree with their opinions on the organization and its internal politics, which 99% of us could not care less about. I prefer to filter out the noise and just enjoy being a football fan and a 49er fan. I have zero interest in the opinion of a stranger on the internet who almost never has anything positive to say.
We all know what Jimmy is, and I'm still gonna root for him to play well every week. I don't need him to be Steve Young, or even Jeff Garcia. He's our starting QB for now, that's not gonna change barring injury or elimination from the playoffs, so I see no point in arguing for or against it.
drummer
Footballguy
I think it's clear this isn't a Jimmy Fanboi thread. For heaven's sake you have him on a first name basis lol. It's obviously very personal when you do that.
drummer
Footballguy
If local papers and press report on the front office and overall franchise (I mean WFT or the Raiders anyone?) then front office politics and stadium issues tend to trickle down. All the head coaching changes for example. People like yourself just want the rah rah, have a safe space for yourself, and while that's fine, it's still a franchise that has only had 4 winning seasons since they fired Mariucci, and had the last Hawaii era Pro Bowl QB in Jeff Garcia (not the ESPN Pro Bowl Era).
He's been rumored to be traded in the upcoming off season, front office maneuvers in the last draft point to it, and it was only a couple of games ago that 49er fans wanted Lance to start. People like yourself wanted to blow the whole thing up a few weeks ago, now all of the sudden two wins changes all of it?
Again this is a thread about Garopollo, were we post numbers, weigh them, compared to where he is in the rest of the league wide QBs, for fantasy purposes as well as just looking at a QB individually. If it's a fanboi thread, well you can find a 1000 page one at the Webzone. Or Reddit.
cloppbeast
Footballguy
Jimmy is a cool name. The last name is awkwardly. It's a lot more fun to just say Jimmy.
I don't know if this is enough to say it's personal for me. Although I find the hatred towards him irritating. I've been known to stand up for other disrespected players as well, Ryan Fitzpatrick and Tyrod Taylor to name a couple. There's a continuum between great and complete trash which internet dwellers dont appreciate.
Btw, what is it you've been calling Jimmy? Something about his chiseled features....
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drummer
Footballguy
Garopollo is not only handsome, he is devastatingly handsome. Which unfortunately had fans nickname him Prince Aladdin. That's definately a South Bay thing.
