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Jimmy G in 2021 441 Att 301 Comp 3810 yds 20 td's 12 int's 3 fumbles lost
SF had a very deep and talented roster. I’m not sure the numbers you shared above really refute anything I said.
Yes, Jimmy G is a better QB than Brissett overall - the question then becomes is he enough of an upgrade to give up assets and take on his contract (on top of Brissett's salary)? Does Jimmy G make Cleveland a real contender in a stacked AFC?
Brissett's cap number is $4.6 mill and the Browns have $48 mill in cap space.
Agree with the first part because I think Houston believes they have found a guy for at least another season or maybe two.
If Mills had been a first round pick instead of a 3rd round pick, people would be gushing over him. Played much better than Wilson, Lawrence and Fields last year. Look at his last 5 games after he settled in. Actually pretty impressive.
I would only think they would kick the tires on him if he is released. If they were not willing to get Baker at $18M they really won't be on Jimmy G at $24M - plus they only have like $16m in cap space.
While I agree with you that I don’t see the Seahawks trading for Jimmy I find it hard to believe that they are truly content going into the season with Lock and Smith at QB. There is a lot of bad QB play in the NFL but if those two combined forces and became Locksmith you’re still not looking at an NFL starter quality QB.
They are either delusional or waiting for the Niners to cut Jimmy. Probably a bit of both.
I know they aren't tanking, in that they'll try to win each game on the season, but Seattle is a very bad roster everywhere except for their skill position players - and even that isn't exactly earth shaking.
Herman Edwards has a problem with your post.
While Jimmy is hardly a world beater, what he may be able to bring to a Seattle or another QB needy team is stability. Seattle has some solid skill players in Metcalf/Lockett/Penny/Walker/Fant. Hard to see Geno/Lock being able to get them the ball consistently and let them do their thing - but perhaps Jimmy can. The offensive line and the defense are clearly wild cards - while the "experts" say that they're bad, it's still July and who knows for sure until the games are actually played.
And I see your points, my thoughts are that when Russ was out last year they used Geno and he was serviceable for their needs - In four games last year, Smith threw 5 touchdowns against just one interception and completed 68.4 percent of his passes. His quarterback rating was 103.
Because they are. Their o-line and defense are terrible. Their skill players are probably average (as compared to the rest of the NFL).
Do we know that for sure though? I don't consider myself much of a scout, and experts have been plenty wrong before trying to gauge in July how an OL or defense performs. I too doubt they'll be a good team, but I always like to keep an open mind that things may turn out differently than what groupthink says.
This seems like a weak argument. Of course we don't know for SURE - there's no absolutes in the NFL but based on last season and what was done this offseason, I'm willing to bet the OL is not going to come together based on hopes and dreams.
We'll just have to agree to disagree. This thread is about Jimmy though - I think he would make the Seahawks better than with Geno/Lock - maybe not playoff better, but a fair amount more competitive.
Yes, sure he would. There's no denying he's better than Smith or Lock - but if he doesn't make them "playoff better" that's kind of the point. It would be better for the franchise's long term health to not bother with him and I think Carroll has the job security to realize that.
I’m not sure how that would benefit the Seahawks though.
That would be a decent fit. I’m not sure he has the arm to benefit their deep threats though. Dionte & Co would get a lot of exercise running down the field & watching balls sail wide of their targets or over their heads.
I am not so sure that Jimmy G would be much better than Mustached Minshew at this point. I am also not so sure Hurts is bad for what they will be trying to do. Of course he is much better FF QB than NFL QB but I don't think Jimmy really helps them.King of the Jungle said:
Jimmy G may possibly be better for the Eagles but I agree the team is 100% committed to Hurst this season and if he falters they’ll fall back on Minshew.
I get that the team wants to move to Lance without Jimmy around for multiple reasons, but I’d think a contender with a first year QB who has yet to show he can take on the Workload of a full season in the NFL, has thrown a total of 101 passes in games in the last two years, and has one season in college - small school ball; 49ers are the best situation for him or a team.zamboni said:Not sure how this is a new story, but Jimmy was given permission to seek a trade:
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34272709/san-francisco-49ers-give-jimmy-garoppolo-agents-permission-seek-trade-sources-say
Guess they're giving him another chance to latch on somewhere before training camp, but assuming that doesn't happen, have to think his release is imminent. Or maybe not
Fwiw, the 49ers have one of the only teams who could make the playoffs with him starting. Maybe NE, Tennessee, Washington or New Orleans but none of them are buying now. 
I believe its a cap issueI get that the team wants to move to Lance without Jimmy around for multiple reasons, but I’d think a contender with a first year QB who has yet to show he can take on the Workload of a full season in the NFL, has thrown a total of 101 passes in games in the last two years, and has one season in college - small school ball; 49ers are the best situation for him or a team.
I forgot about Minshew and agree. Maybe I am not giving Hurts enough credit as they went to the playoffs last year. I think this team has a chance to win their division and make some noise with adequate QB play.
Yeah I’m not totally sure. Maybe it’s a pay Deebo or keep Jimmy thing. Probably someone on the board is more informed than me.
Using the 49ers record with Jimmy Vs “without him” (it’s not actually “without him”, it’s over a certain timeframe before him - it was on ESPN yesterday) is a deeply flawed metric to use for the heavy lifting needed to get to that conclusion.
As a Niner fan who has watched every one of Jimmy's games, this is spot on, particularly the bolded part. If you have any doubt, watch the last couple series of the super bowl against the Chiefs. His QB rating was 2.3 in the 4th quarter of that game after playing a very solid first 3 quarters aside from the "mind numbing" INT he threw early.
you left out handsome. He is quite dashing.
SF has been lucky to have had 2 great coaches. Probably GM too. Kapernick also went to a SB and playoff game.
