JoeSteeler
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Bird flu?
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QB Lamar Jackson, BAL (1 Viewer)
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chad in Indy
Footballguy
Man. I was excited to play Bateman with Brown out. Now I'm not sure this is a good play
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
massraider
Footballguy
Isn't this like his 3rd sickness this year?
Guy needs to wash his hands when he leaves the bathroom or sumthin
Guy needs to wash his hands when he leaves the bathroom or sumthin
He’s def missed practice multiple times prior to this week with a sickness. And the Cleveland poop game last year. And Covid…twice.
Leroy Hoard
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Dizzy
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massraider said:
I'm actually worried that it's a bit more serious than being reported. Schefter mentioned yesterday on the FF show that Lamar has been "battling this illness all season" ... that doesn't sound good. The list of illnesses that last 3+ months is pretty short. And for a guy that has had COVID-19... TWICE? Is he a long-hauler, or is there another underlying condition?
Dizzy
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Bracie Smathers
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Yeah. I did not know he had been struggling with something. To miss a game is pretty serious.
I've heard of complications arising from the vax and I'm sure most every NFL player has been inoculated. Or if he's had this before the-Vid then it could be a GI issue or something which could help explain his 'Dukie Monday Night Football Game' last year when he rushed off the field.
I dunno, just trying to figure out what his issue could be.
Hope there is some clarity in the next 48 hours. Totally lucked out and plugged Cam in, but ideally I'd drop him to attend to other needs.
He's never been vaccinated and they continue to say it's it's not related to COVID.
No idea what Lamar is dealing and the Shefter report that he's been dealing with it all year does not match what Lamar said Friday when he said he thinks he got a cold from the weather change.
Hope he's good for his sake and mine because I own a healthy amount of Lamar and my backup options almost all universally crapped out on me yesterday.
-jb-
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I feel the same. Was actually cursing myself for most of the game for not starting Heinecke. It evened out, but what world are we living in where that’s even a debate? Yet here we are.
Ya gotta stick with him but the pucker factor is at an all time high. That INT was another total head-scratcher.
Yeah it's unwatchable.
He needs to play better, but the playcalling has to change. Forget the run first mentality. Especially with their top CB now out for the rest of the season.
I don't understand why a) on every dropback he's under so much tremendous pressure, b) It takes him so long to get rid of the ball or he doesn't and he's sacked so often and c) If he's under so much pressure, how are there not running lanes to scoot through? Hell, Hebert ran for 90 yards against the Steelers.
I'm sitting pretty with a bye but I'm looking at week 17 if I'm so lucky to get there and BALT faces A. Donald and V. Miller. Good lord.
I don’t get the hate. Guy turns ball over a lot so I would get criticism for that. But because he’s not Brady and can actually make plays with runs people call him a rb…
guy gets no help from rest of his team and carries it on his back. Terrible run game all year so he makes up for it with his legs. Receivers dropping passes constantly. Oline issues… offensive scheme that can’t seem to figure out how to beat cover 0 blitz.
Lamar kept them in games. He’ll lose them some but he’ll win them more overall. If the guy had support the team would be a lot better, not worse because lamar is passing to them…
could do a lot worse than lamar.
guy gets no help from rest of his team and carries it on his back. Terrible run game all year so he makes up for it with his legs. Receivers dropping passes constantly. Oline issues… offensive scheme that can’t seem to figure out how to beat cover 0 blitz.
Lamar kept them in games. He’ll lose them some but he’ll win them more overall. If the guy had support the team would be a lot better, not worse because lamar is passing to them…
could do a lot worse than lamar.
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Soulfly3
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top 3 athlete in the nfl. bottom 3 qb (for actual QB'ing). any team would be crapping themselves at what to do with him right now. he's shown you that at his best, he's an average thrower... and at worst, doesnt belong in the cfl.
his legs are what destroys opponents. and w this latest injury (ankle) and knowing that one serious leg injury could completely derail his career, how much and how long do you give him?
Bracie Smathers
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He lost his running backs in the preseason.
He lost his ALL PRO left tackle.
He's been pressured a ton and has gotten beat-up.
He's a unique talent. The offense is predicated on running the football and spreading out the defense to create holes and passing lanes.
Youngest NFL QB to start a playoff game.
Second unanimous MVP in NFL history.
His team has been decimated by injuries yet they are still in first place in their division.
Premature to bury Lamar.
He lost his ALL PRO left tackle.
He's been pressured a ton and has gotten beat-up.
He's a unique talent. The offense is predicated on running the football and spreading out the defense to create holes and passing lanes.
Youngest NFL QB to start a playoff game.
Second unanimous MVP in NFL history.
His team has been decimated by injuries yet they are still in first place in their division.
Premature to bury Lamar.
Lamar's objective QB metrics are way above average.
>>Lamar Jackson was accurate on 22 of 46 deep passes (47.8%) last season. 6th out of 31 quarterbacks.<<
>>7.5% of Lamar Jackson's passes in 2020 were dropped. The Baltimore Ravens' quarterback was sabotaged by his receivers more often than anyone else in the league.<<
https://twitter.com/QBDataMine/status/1360695032026701830?t=lnRXRjVf5pq_tj383N_plA&s=19
https://twitter.com/QBDataMine/status/1373020714249420806?t=LgTQaJ5nPVQCx1TgeHwulA&s=19
I don't think anyone is burying him or saying he's awful (at least they shouldn't be), but it's a very legitimate question as to whether you want to break the bank for him long term. He's been essentially zero cap hit for them so far in his career and they really haven't been close to winning it all, how are they going to put a great team around him if/when he starts accounting for $40mil+ of their cap space every year?
Dizzy
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If it's a lower sprain... absolutely he "could" play next week.
It might even be Harbaugh's "plan" to have him out there. I would strongly advise FF owners to have a good back-up plan. OK to have more than one plan.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
He's not Joe Flacco. He has unique talent.
Of 32 teams a handful of rookies start every year, of those rookies he's already reached a pinnacle that no QB in NFL history has attained. A real concern would present a team having to gamble on a QB who hasn't got unique talent or had on-field success.
They didn't just build the team around his unique skills/tallent they've cultivated a QB room of guys with similar skills, see Tyler Huntley yesterday who came in cold without any first team reps and put up these stats and nearly came back from a deficit.
Tyler Huntley
- 27/38
- 270 passing yards
- 1 passing TD
- QB Passer rating 99.7
- 6 rushing attempts
- 45 rushing yards
titusbramble
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He could play, but the nature of the injury will clearly hurt the likes of Lamar more than an orthodox pocket passer. From a fantasy point of view I'm glad I picked up Tua in midweek.
For whoever was writing him off in real life I'd happily trade Carr for him
Guy hasn’t really tried an offense other than Greg Roman’s. Greg Roman’s offense hasn’t really changed much since kaepernick and 49ers. His offense failed in SF and again on Bills with tyrod and he was booted. Lamar is the only reason his scheme still works.
I believe the only other time he tried a different offense was his rookie year where the playbook was catered towards Flacco and he still outplayed Flacco.
whose to say it’s not Roman’s fault and Lamar can’t do more when he is given the same surrounding talent and coaching as say Josh Allen?
id love to see what this guy would do on a team that can evolve offensively and not falter to the same defensive scheme for years.
really don’t think you can fault Lamar for all of ravens problems and not going further… it’s easy to say that just because the guy is different from a traditional qb but I don’t think it’s that simple. This guy isn’t Vick, tyrod, and kaepernick.
I believe the only other time he tried a different offense was his rookie year where the playbook was catered towards Flacco and he still outplayed Flacco.
whose to say it’s not Roman’s fault and Lamar can’t do more when he is given the same surrounding talent and coaching as say Josh Allen?
id love to see what this guy would do on a team that can evolve offensively and not falter to the same defensive scheme for years.
really don’t think you can fault Lamar for all of ravens problems and not going further… it’s easy to say that just because the guy is different from a traditional qb but I don’t think it’s that simple. This guy isn’t Vick, tyrod, and kaepernick.
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Soulfly3
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Lamar's made more completions than Huntley did YESTERDAY exactly ONE time in his LAST 4 SEASONS. Huntley didn't even play 3 full quarters, if Im not mistaken.
that's absolutely wild.
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Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Baltimore should think long and hard before giving Jackson the big $$$$.
Huntley looks to be a clone for pennies on the dollar. As an undrafted FA Ravens can have Huntley for 4 years on the cheap and load up everywhere else. Trade Jackson for a bounty and they are set.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
In 3-4 years he will get paid. QBs that perform on rookie deals are gold in the NFL.
In their offense right now Huntley has not missed a beat. Cap wise do want a QB making 35 million a year or 2-5 million? Is Jackson 30 million a year better than Huntley?
Watching the last couple of weeks he does not appear to be as both play the same style.
Dizzy
Footballguy
Summer Wheat
Footballguy
huntley looks like peyton manning at qb, compared to lamar.
this is gonna be something...
Huntley first Raven QB in history to run for 2 TDs and pass for 2 TDs in the same game. The kids has some skills. I like him a little better than Lamar because he does not give up on the pass until the last second, Lamar bails way too early at times.
I am hoping Lamar is out again next week as I have Huntley and Jackson. Would rather roll with Huntley at this stage.
Baltimore Sun:
Shortly after Ravens starting quarterback Lamar Jackson reported to training camp in July, it was hard to tell Jackson and backup Tyler Huntley apart on the practice field, especially when they both started running. And when it came to passing, Huntley had a stronger arm than Jackson. Even on Sunday against the Browns in Cleveland, the two quarterbacks looked similar.
Now, this isn’t trying to start a quarterback controversy and say Huntley should replace Jackson after the Ravens’ 24-22 loss to the Cleveland Browns on Sunday, but they better hold on to this second-year player out of Utah. There aren’t many quarterbacks in the NFL as explosive as Jackson, but Huntley is close and only makes $780,000
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Dizzy
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huntley looks like peyton manning at qb, compared to lamar.
I agree... this is going to be something.
Nobody has Lamar's freakish athletic ability, but the offense looked to be - dare I say - in "rhythm" yesterday.
BINGBING
Footballguy
It's almost like the Tyler Huntley game against the Bears never happened to some people on here, and they are willing to erase the success of a Heisman winner and unanimous MVP with an ungodly W-L record in favor of an undrafted free agent that put up a lot of fantasy points in come back mode. Hilarious.
matuski
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Lamar leaves a lot of room passing-wise for another QB to make an impact imo.
I'll see your Huntely/Bears game and raise you Lamar's week 12.
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