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When Mahomes inked his contract, he WAS the top paid NFL QB and he should have demanded and gotten paid more than other QBs.
You act as if the Ravens are trying to sabotage Lamar or something. They had good reasons to make those trades and got pretty good returns to help restock with "top players", as well as being better able to actually pay him.
And KC had good reason to use cap to rebuild their offensive line and use other cap resources on 'other' positions rather than anticipate the FA WR market and earmark additional money to resign Hill because 'AT THE TIME' they did not know the FA WR market would change.
I'm not sure how any of this is relevant to my point- you are coming across like the Ravens are just having a firesale and not surrounding Lamar with talent, like it's part of their strategy or something. All I'm saying is they had very valid reasons to trade those players (Hollywood demanded it for crying out loud) and they still have plenty of talent there. They were both smart moves.
You never know how long a QB will play.
Of course.
So, no limit on the amount, just pay him whatever he asks for? They are offering to pay him a lot, he also has a decision to make- does he want to try and squeeze every last dime out of them or does he want to prioritize winning?
I imagine if you were the one who could choose between 50 mil & 35 mil you might view things differently.
LeBron James took less money from Miami to win a championship. People do this sometimes.
Who said it was?
Everyone who says he should give the Ravens a hometown discount.
Pretty sure they aren't saying it's his "responsibility" either.
Money isn't the only thing in life, and this is very short-term thinking- it's entirely possible that he end ups better off financially by not taking every penny he can right now.
Yes I understand winning a Super Bowl could lead to better future earnings. I reject that line of reasoning. One team wins the Super Bowl every year. The odds of getting there and winning are miniscule. Injuries, bad calls, bad bounces etc.
Of course money isn’t the only thing but to me not maximizing what you can get when you are young, healthy and at the top of your game is the epitome of being short sighted
That's only one small part of it- you don't think it would be better for his overall "brand" to remain the face of a great, winning organization than to go toil in obscurity somewhere like Detroit because they offered a slightly larger contract?
LeBron came into the league with almost a multi-million dollar deal with Nike before he ever made a free throw in an NBA game. He had earned over $78 million dollars on his first two contracts, and that's just the NBA money, in his first seven seasons before moving to Miami for another $64 million guaranteed.
I mean, you can argue that it would be the wrong choice, but no idea how you can call considering his long term future including life after football short sighted.
His brand will just be fine in Detroit.
Maximizing his money right now is what guarantees his long term future. It gives him the freedom to move on to opportunities that may pay less but he will enjoy more.
And I think you're contradicting yourself right here:
If he holds out for every last dime, he risks them saying "no thanks" and then never getting that big contract. He needs to decide how much he wants to gamble, because I don't see the Ravens giving him a record breaking deal at the moment (I know I wouldn't). You even agree that whatever they're offering already guarantees his financial future.
Of course I agree that whatever they offer him is life changing, ##### you money and he's taking a huge gamble by not accepting it. I personally would take the contract, most likely, because I am sure it looks a lot like the Kyler Murray deal. In fact I would probably break my throwing arm pounding the ACCEPT button on my keyboard. Frankly, it's probably a mistake for him to be representing himself in this situation.
That just goes to show how unreasonable he is, to be honest. There's no good reason he should be throwing the ball. He sucks at passing. If he spent more time on social media reading the comments he would know this.
Why? The contract will probably get signed. No one knows actual terms of the last offer so both can call it a win.
Sure, ok fine on both points but the timing also seems relevant as we head into week 1.
I'm not sure why though. It's not unprecedented and, as a Lamar owner in redraft this year I am not sure which outcome I prefer more. The security of a contract allowing him to play more relaxed and confident or gambling on himself with the whole Me Against the World, thing.
Just seems like an unneeded distraction headed into game 1.
This isn't even close to the way ANY of this went down. The Dolphins spent plenty of money, on bums. The Broncos invented the zone blocking scheme, and had minimum wage shlubs at OL and RB killing it because no one could defend it.
I was responding to the very weird take that Mahomes money grabbed preventing KC from resigning Hill when he took less money just so the team could have enough money to continue to win championships. Hill leaving wasn't because of Mahomes taking the most money that he could, it was because KC didn't see the FA WR market blowing up.
Get off your high horse, jfc.
Well, the good thing about quotes is that it's easy to go back and get facts straight. I didn't comment about the KC/Mahomes situation at all, it was very clear that this is the part that I was commenting on:
This is may be the toughest organization for Lamar to be negotiating with here.
He's absolutely doing the right thing.
Maybe, but it's the best scheme to get him paid, even if it's from someone else.
Contract talks are now tabled until February, theoretically, which opens the door, if only slightly, for Jackson to hit the open market and leave the Ravens in March if negotiations still don't get anywhere substantive.
