QB Marcus Mariota, WAS (1 Viewer)

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Marcus Mariota - QB - Player
Appearing on 97.5 The Fanatic in Philadelphia, the Philly Inquirer's Jeff McLane stated that he expects the Eagles to try to move up for Oregon QB Marcus Mariota in the draft.
This isn't the first we've heard of Chip Kelly's love for his college quarterback. ""Unless I'm missing something here," said McLane, "the Eagles are going to do whatever it takes to get him." Acquiring Mariota would likely cost the Eagles most of their 2015 draft class, but would be well worth it if Mariota solves their quarterback problem. Philadelphia currently holds the No. 20 overall pick. They'll likely have to get into the top five, jumping the quarterback-needy Jets at No. 6.

Related: Eagles

Source: Adam Levitan on Twitter
Feb 18 - 12:31 PM

NFL Analyst: Eagles Should Do ‘Whatever It Takes’ To Acquire Mariota

 

[Faust]

Lovie Smith: Marcus Mariota remains in picture

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Oregon QB Marcus Mariota measured 6-foot-3 3/4 and 222 pounds at the NFL Combine weigh-in.

Mariota is seven pounds heavier than his listed weight in college. A quick-twitch athlete with dual-threat ability, Mariota is a bit of a polarizing figure at this stage of the NFL draft process. He was rarely asked to make tight-window throws at Oregon, or throw with anticipation. The best pro comparison we've seen for Mariota's skill set is Ryan Tannehill, though Mariota isn't nearly as NFL-ready.

Feb 19 - 9:01 AM

 

[Grahamburn]

Not as ready as Tannehill? That seems like a ridiculous statement.

 

[mr roboto]

Not as ready as Tannehill? That seems like a ridiculous statement.

Agreed. Tannehill was a high upside project. Mariota is a highly productive prospect with high upside but far more experience.

 

[cstu]

Not as ready as Tannehill? That seems like a ridiculous statement.

Agreed. Tannehill was a high upside project. Mariota is a highly productive prospect with high upside but far more experience.

Tannehill was ####ing awful when he was drafted. He's one of the reasons I believe Mariota can develop into a good QB.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

He was rarely asked to make tight-window throws at Oregon, or throw with anticipation.

Who else fit this coming out of college?

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Cleveland Browns beat writer Tony Grossi just conducted a radio interview from the Combine in Indianapolis and he was asked about his impressions of QB Marcus Mariota.

LINK to the audio clip and the Mariota info is the first question he was asked.

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DawgPress @DawgPressNet · 29m 29 minutes ago

[Audio] @TonyGrossi w/ The Golden Boyz http://dlvr.it/8dnWdk #Browns

Rough transcription:

Q: "What were your impressions from Marcus Mariota and did he talk at all about how he would feel playing for the Browns?"

Grossi: "He did he talked a lot about Kevin O'Connell (O'Connell is the newly hired Browns QB coach who worked with Mariota helping him prep for the draft) so the natural question from our end was... ah.

Did you talk about how cool it would be if you wound up re-joining him in Cleveland? And his eyes actually LIT UP AT THAT and said...

'Hey that would be AWESEOME! I would love to play for the Cleveland Browns.'

So there it is, its out there. Here we go again. Lets chase that pot of gold."
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Later in the interview Grossi clarifies his take and actually says he believes it would be a mistake to pay the amount of draft picks that it would take to trade-up to land Mariota but Mariota says he would love to play for the Browns.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Oregon QB Marcus Mariota is "killing it" during NFL team interviews, according to ESPN's Louis Riddick.
In a good way. A number of team interviews took place on Wednesday and more occur on Thursday. "Told he is as/more impressive than Russell Wilson was, which is significant," Riddick tweeted. Mariota's quiet demeanor has been cited on a number of occasions, but it could just turn into pre-draft fluff. Teams are also able to get prospects on the whiteboard during these interviews.

Source: Louis Riddick on Twitter
Feb 19 - 1:36 PM

 

[Tool]

Cleveland Browns beat writer Tony Grossi just conducted a radio interview from the Combine in Indianapolis and he was asked about his impressions of QB Marcus Mariota.

LINK to the audio clip and the Mariota info is the first question he was asked.

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DawgPress @DawgPressNet · 29m 29 minutes ago

[Audio] @TonyGrossi w/ The Golden Boyz http://dlvr.it/8dnWdk #Browns

Rough transcription:

Q: "What were your impressions from Marcus Mariota and did he talk at all about how he would feel playing for the Browns?"

Grossi: "He did he talked a lot about Kevin O'Connell (O'Connell is the newly hired Browns QB coach who worked with Mariota helping him prep for the draft) so the natural question from our end was... ah.

Did you talk about how cool it would be if you wound up re-joining him in Cleveland? And his eyes actually LIT UP AT THAT and said...

'Hey that would be AWESEOME! I would love to play for the Cleveland Browns.'

So there it is, its out there. Here we go again. Lets chase that pot of gold."
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Later in the interview Grossi clarifies his take and actually says he believes it would be a mistake to pay the amount of draft picks that it would take to trade-up to land Mariota but Mariota says he would love to play for the Browns.

If he falls to pick #22, he's a Brown.

 

[Quez]

I bet Mariota will end up being closer to 210 by the end of an NFL training camp. he probably gained +10 pounds to be at 222. I don't see that sticking around.

Most people fluctuate 5-6 lbs a day, and 10 lbs isn't unheard of.

In sum, I think he is too skinny.

 

[Faust]

Will Mariota be able to prove that he's more than just a spread-offense QB?

http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/02/19/2015-nfl-combine-marcus-mariota-spread-offense-jameis-winston

 

[cstu]

I bet Mariota will end up being closer to 210 by the end of an NFL training camp. he probably gained +10 pounds to be at 222. I don't see that sticking around.

Most people fluctuate 5-6 lbs a day, and 10 lbs isn't unheard of.

In sum, I think he is too skinny.

Bridgewater.

 

[mr roboto]

Lots of effusive slobbering about his interviews and not just that he's a nice guy. I guess he blew them away with his football IQ and ability to talk pro concepts.

 

[Old Smiley]

I bet Mariota will end up being closer to 210 by the end of an NFL training camp. he probably gained +10 pounds to be at 222. I don't see that sticking around.

Most people fluctuate 5-6 lbs a day, and 10 lbs isn't unheard of.

In sum, I think he is too skinny.

Bridgewater.

I like Teddy and I'm pulling for him but it's pretty early days for that to be a drop the mike statement.

 

[B-Deep]

So, don't the titans have an obligation now to state how in love they are with Mariota? You have the browns and eagles who both may or may not be in love with this kid, the play has to be make it clear he is not getting by #2, and hope one of them gives you the farm for him, right?

 

[Grahamburn]

Lots of effusive slobbering about his interviews and not just that he's a nice guy. I guess he blew them away with his football IQ and ability to talk pro concepts.

He's too smart for the Bucs.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

So, don't the titans have an obligation now to state how in love they are with Mariota? You have the browns and eagles who both may or may not be in love with this kid, the play has to be make it clear he is not getting by #2, and hope one of them gives you the farm for him, right?

You are asking if the Titans should try to build up QB Marcus Mariota forcing up the market price for a possible huge trade-down killing ALA St. Louis raping Washington for QB RG III a few years ago.

I think not.

If the Titans want Mariota they draft him.

Any attempt to build him up tells everyone Tennessee isn't interested.

Also the RG III deal is fresh in everyone's minds. No one is going to pay that price for a lessor prospect who has questions and could slide down the board.

 

[Faust]

Marcus Mariota trying to impress NFL, not just Eagles

 

[-CE-]

I bet Mariota will end up being closer to 210 by the end of an NFL training camp. he probably gained +10 pounds to be at 222. I don't see that sticking around.

Most people fluctuate 5-6 lbs a day, and 10 lbs isn't unheard of.

In sum, I think he is too skinny.

You were a big fan of Jamarcus Russell, weren't you?

 

[B-Deep]

So, don't the titans have an obligation now to state how in love they are with Mariota? You have the browns and eagles who both may or may not be in love with this kid, the play has to be make it clear he is not getting by #2, and hope one of them gives you the farm for him, right?

You are asking if the Titans should try to build up QB Marcus Mariota forcing up the market price for a possible huge trade-down killing ALA St. Louis raping Washington for QB RG III a few years ago.

I think not.

If the Titans want Mariota they draft him.

Any attempt to build him up tells everyone Tennessee isn't interested.

Also the RG III deal is fresh in everyone's minds. No one is going to pay that price for a lessor prospect who has questions and could slide down the board.

I disagree, there is no downside to expressing interest in him. And you never know who is going to trade up for whom at what price. I'd have never thought someone would pay a lot to jump up one spot, it happened with Trich, and I never thought the browns would have jumped up to get Johnny Football, they did. If either the browns or the eagles think he is a franchise QB, what price is too high? Perhaps no price.

 

[cstu]

Also the RG III deal is fresh in everyone's minds. No one is going to pay that price for a lessor prospect who has questions and could slide down the board.

Not for Chip if he believes he's a future All-Pro with him.

 

[B-Deep]

Also the RG III deal is fresh in everyone's minds. No one is going to pay that price for a lessor prospect who has questions and could slide down the board.

Not for Chip if he believes he's a future All-Pro with him.

if mariotta is a 10 year franchise QB you cannot overpay for him.

 

[Faust]

Whitfield: Browns moving up for Mariota very real

 

[Bracie Smathers]

So, don't the titans have an obligation now to state how in love they are with Mariota? You have the browns and eagles who both may or may not be in love with this kid, the play has to be make it clear he is not getting by #2, and hope one of them gives you the farm for him, right?

You are asking if the Titans should try to build up QB Marcus Mariota forcing up the market price for a possible huge trade-down killing ALA St. Louis raping Washington for QB RG III a few years ago.

I think not.

If the Titans want Mariota they draft him.

Any attempt to build him up tells everyone Tennessee isn't interested.

Also the RG III deal is fresh in everyone's minds. No one is going to pay that price for a lessor prospect who has questions and could slide down the board.

I disagree, there is no downside to expressing interest in him. And you never know who is going to trade up for whom at what price. I'd have never thought someone would pay a lot to jump up one spot, it happened with Trich, and I never thought the browns would have jumped up to get Johnny Football, they did. If either the browns or the eagles think he is a franchise QB, what price is too high? Perhaps no price.

Well I disagree that their isn't any downside because a team picking below the Titans might be more interested in a pass rusher so by saying they favor a QB that they really are not interested in the Titans could potentially be killing a different trade down where they could pick up a high pick and still draft the prospect that they liked all along.

I see a downside and it really doesn't make sense for them to tip their hand this early in the process hoping for an implausible trade that won't happen.

Add if a team were that much in love with a QB they would look to deal with Tampa Bay.

 

[Insein]

Marcus Mariota trying to impress NFL, not just Eagles

Well since the Eagles won't be drafting him, that would be a smart plan.

 

[seahawk 17]

Just so I can get it in print, Mariota will have a better career than Winston.

 

[MAC_32]

Just so I can get it in print, Mariota will have a better career than Winston.

I'm trending away from these proclamations, but it seems almost too clear in my eyes how much better of a bet he is than Winston.

 

[cstu]

Just so I can get it in print, Mariota will have a better career than Winston.

I'm trending away from these proclamations, but it seems almost too clear in my eyes how much better of a bet he is than Winston.

 

[bucsbaby]

I hope the Bucs draft Mariota, but it's not looking like it will happen

 

[Quez]

I bet Mariota will end up being closer to 210 by the end of an NFL training camp. he probably gained +10 pounds to be at 222. I don't see that sticking around.

Most people fluctuate 5-6 lbs a day, and 10 lbs isn't unheard of.

In sum, I think he is too skinny.

You were a big fan of Jamarcus Russell, weren't you?

No, but I just think there is an ideal body type / weight for a QB, and he falls short. His height is obviously ideal, but at 210-220 I'm worried about being able to withstand hits.

 

[Quez]

Just so I can get it in print, Mariota will have a better career than Winston.

I'm trending away from these proclamations, but it seems almost too clear in my eyes how much better of a bet he is than Winston.

Didn't you guys get the memo? It's not about Winston vs Mariota, it's about Winston vs Manning & Brady

 

[MAC_32]

Just so I can get it in print, Mariota will have a better career than Winston.

I'm trending away from these proclamations, but it seems almost too clear in my eyes how much better of a bet he is than Winston.

Didn't you guys get the memo? It's not about Winston vs Mariota, it's about Winston vs Manning & Brady

That was a good line.

 

[cstu]

I bet Mariota will end up being closer to 210 by the end of an NFL training camp. he probably gained +10 pounds to be at 222. I don't see that sticking around.

Most people fluctuate 5-6 lbs a day, and 10 lbs isn't unheard of.

In sum, I think he is too skinny.

You were a big fan of Jamarcus Russell, weren't you?

No, but I just think there is an ideal body type / weight for a QB, and he falls short. His height is obviously ideal, but at 210-220 I'm worried about being able to withstand hits.

Brady was 6-4 3/8, 211 at the combine.

 

[Faust]

Marcus Mariota runs 4.52 40-yard dash to lead quarterbacks:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000472767/article/marcus-mariota-runs-452-40yard-dash-to-lead-quarterbacks

 

[amnesiac]

I bet Mariota will end up being closer to 210 by the end of an NFL training camp. he probably gained +10 pounds to be at 222. I don't see that sticking around.

Most people fluctuate 5-6 lbs a day, and 10 lbs isn't unheard of.

In sum, I think he is too skinny.

let me get this straight; with NFL "nutrition", you don't think he can maintain that weight?you think he had lead in his pockets at weigh-in?

 

[mr roboto]

From the fair amount of today's workouts that I caught it seem that Marcus was very comfortable taking drops and making throws. I really only saw him miss one or two throws today. What I saw was a guy with all the tools who can quickly become proficient at the things that may have been lacking in his college experience. For a prospected so loved for his intangibles and athleticism but so question on his ability to make NFL throws this thread has been surprisingly quiet given the impressive display he seemed to me to put on today.

 

[jurb26]

From the fair amount of today's workouts that I caught it seem that Marcus was very comfortable taking drops and making throws. I really only saw him miss one or two throws today. What I saw was a guy with all the tools who can quickly become proficient at the things that may have been lacking in his college experience. For a prospected so loved for his intangibles and athleticism but so question on his ability to make NFL throws this thread has been surprisingly quiet given the impressive display he seemed to me to put on today.

The criticism has never been his arm or mechanics. It's that he is timid in the pocket, bails to quickly and feels pressure that isn't there, isn't forced to make NFL reads and progression, struggles with the few circumstances when he's had too, the longer he holds the ball the worse his decisions become (it seems if the play design isn't there he struggles) and that he doesn't anticipate or throw guys open. He can make NFL throws and he had solid mechanics. None of today surprised me.

 

[cstu]

From the fair amount of today's workouts that I caught it seem that Marcus was very comfortable taking drops and making throws. I really only saw him miss one or two throws today. What I saw was a guy with all the tools who can quickly become proficient at the things that may have been lacking in his college experience. For a prospected so loved for his intangibles and athleticism but so question on his ability to make NFL throws this thread has been surprisingly quiet given the impressive display he seemed to me to put on today.

The criticism has never been his arm or mechanics. It's that he is timid in the pocket, bails to quickly and feels pressure that isn't there, isn't forced to make NFL reads and progression, struggles with the few circumstances when he's had too, the longer he holds the ball the worse his decisions become (it seems if the play design isn't there he struggles) and that he doesn't anticipate or throw guys open. He can make NFL throws and he had solid mechanics. None of today surprised me.

Yet 4 INT's.

 

[CalBear]

From the fair amount of today's workouts that I caught it seem that Marcus was very comfortable taking drops and making throws. I really only saw him miss one or two throws today. What I saw was a guy with all the tools who can quickly become proficient at the things that may have been lacking in his college experience. For a prospected so loved for his intangibles and athleticism but so question on his ability to make NFL throws this thread has been surprisingly quiet given the impressive display he seemed to me to put on today.

The criticism has never been his arm or mechanics. It's that he is timid in the pocket, bails to quickly and feels pressure that isn't there, isn't forced to make NFL reads and progression, struggles with the few circumstances when he's had too, the longer he holds the ball the worse his decisions become (it seems if the play design isn't there he struggles) and that he doesn't anticipate or throw guys open. He can make NFL throws and he had solid mechanics. None of today surprised me.

I just really can't see how anyone who watches his games could possibly come to this conclusion. Mariota is probably the best QB in college at extending the play, keeping his eyes downfield, and making big plays in that situation. He's certainly better than Winston at it.

 

[jurb26]

From the fair amount of today's workouts that I caught it seem that Marcus was very comfortable taking drops and making throws. I really only saw him miss one or two throws today. What I saw was a guy with all the tools who can quickly become proficient at the things that may have been lacking in his college experience. For a prospected so loved for his intangibles and athleticism but so question on his ability to make NFL throws this thread has been surprisingly quiet given the impressive display he seemed to me to put on today.

The criticism has never been his arm or mechanics. It's that he is timid in the pocket, bails to quickly and feels pressure that isn't there, isn't forced to make NFL reads and progression, struggles with the few circumstances when he's had too, the longer he holds the ball the worse his decisions become (it seems if the play design isn't there he struggles) and that he doesn't anticipate or throw guys open. He can make NFL throws and he had solid mechanics. None of today surprised me.

I just really can't see how anyone who watches his games could possibly come to this conclusion. Mariota is probably the best QB in college at extending the play, keeping his eyes downfield, and making big plays in that situation. He's certainly better than Winston at it.

If you watch the games and don't get caught up in the stats you will see it. Mariota got away with a lot of terrible decisions. When plays break down he tried to be a hero and would throw late, across his body, into the middle of the field, off balance and into coverage. Just because it doesn't happan as frequently thanks to the Oregon offense doesn't mean it isn't a trait. He did it at least 2x vs. FSU but got away with it thanks to poor DB play. He's not better at it than Winston. He's just more athletic so his running allows an added layer. Winston battled muddy pockets a ton this year. He handles it significantly better. There is a reason a ton of people were comparing him to Roethlisberger yesterday. It's because he is pretty dynamic at extending plays and keeping his eyes down field, looking for a pass option. If you think Mariota is better here. I don't know what you're watching.

 

[BassNBrew]

I found it interesting when they were prepping the QBs on the long route drill to the left, they told them to throw it 42.5 yards. The one Mariota throw I could track the WR distance on was exactly 42.5 yards.

 

[cstu]

Mariota 40 video vs. Winston

 

[-CE-]

From the fair amount of today's workouts that I caught it seem that Marcus was very comfortable taking drops and making throws. I really only saw him miss one or two throws today. What I saw was a guy with all the tools who can quickly become proficient at the things that may have been lacking in his college experience. For a prospected so loved for his intangibles and athleticism but so question on his ability to make NFL throws this thread has been surprisingly quiet given the impressive display he seemed to me to put on today.

The criticism has never been his arm or mechanics. It's that he is timid in the pocket, bails to quickly and feels pressure that isn't there, isn't forced to make NFL reads and progression, struggles with the few circumstances when he's had too, the longer he holds the ball the worse his decisions become (it seems if the play design isn't there he struggles) and that he doesn't anticipate or throw guys open. He can make NFL throws and he had solid mechanics. None of today surprised me.

This analysis couldn't be more wrong.

 

[-CE-]

From the fair amount of today's workouts that I caught it seem that Marcus was very comfortable taking drops and making throws. I really only saw him miss one or two throws today. What I saw was a guy with all the tools who can quickly become proficient at the things that may have been lacking in his college experience. For a prospected so loved for his intangibles and athleticism but so question on his ability to make NFL throws this thread has been surprisingly quiet given the impressive display he seemed to me to put on today.

The criticism has never been his arm or mechanics. It's that he is timid in the pocket, bails to quickly and feels pressure that isn't there, isn't forced to make NFL reads and progression, struggles with the few circumstances when he's had too, the longer he holds the ball the worse his decisions become (it seems if the play design isn't there he struggles) and that he doesn't anticipate or throw guys open. He can make NFL throws and he had solid mechanics. None of today surprised me.

I just really can't see how anyone who watches his games could possibly come to this conclusion. Mariota is probably the best QB in college at extending the play, keeping his eyes downfield, and making big plays in that situation. He's certainly better than Winston at it.

People that make these types of comments didn't watch him at all this year.

 

[-CE-]

From the fair amount of today's workouts that I caught it seem that Marcus was very comfortable taking drops and making throws. I really only saw him miss one or two throws today. What I saw was a guy with all the tools who can quickly become proficient at the things that may have been lacking in his college experience. For a prospected so loved for his intangibles and athleticism but so question on his ability to make NFL throws this thread has been surprisingly quiet given the impressive display he seemed to me to put on today.

The criticism has never been his arm or mechanics. It's that he is timid in the pocket, bails to quickly and feels pressure that isn't there, isn't forced to make NFL reads and progression, struggles with the few circumstances when he's had too, the longer he holds the ball the worse his decisions become (it seems if the play design isn't there he struggles) and that he doesn't anticipate or throw guys open. He can make NFL throws and he had solid mechanics. None of today surprised me.

I just really can't see how anyone who watches his games could possibly come to this conclusion. Mariota is probably the best QB in college at extending the play, keeping his eyes downfield, and making big plays in that situation. He's certainly better than Winston at it.

If you watch the games and don't get caught up in the stats you will see it. Mariota got away with a lot of terrible decisions. When plays break down he tried to be a hero and would throw late, across his body, into the middle of the field, off balance and into coverage. Just because it doesn't happan as frequently thanks to the Oregon offense doesn't mean it isn't a trait. He did it at least 2x vs. FSU but got away with it thanks to poor DB play. He's not better at it than Winston. He's just more athletic so his running allows an added layer. Winston battled muddy pockets a ton this year. He handles it significantly better. There is a reason a ton of people were comparing him to Roethlisberger yesterday. It's because he is pretty dynamic at extending plays and keeping his eyes down field, looking for a pass option. If you think Mariota is better here. I don't know what you're watching.

So you watched one game and took two plays from it. It's pretty obvious because you even site the dropped interception on the one play... Heres the funny thing about the dropped interception play. The defender who dropped the ball had fallen down, Mariota made the pass to the WR in an area that only the defender who fell down and the receiver would have a chance to make the catch.

If you really watched the play, which you didn't, which is reflective of your entire analysis on Mariota, you'd see the receiver stopped, turned his head completely around to look at the fallen defender, and completely missed the pass that Mariota was throwing to him. So did Mariota make a poor decision on that play? Well, I'd argue not really. He threw the ball to an area where the defender had fallen down and his receiver would have made the catch if he would have stayed with the play/ball.

The other play you are referring to, which wasn't an interception, I believe it was on third/fourth down - he threw the ball back across the field to a receiver who was going to be wide open. This was a poor decision, but almost worked out before Mariota threw it too short and high (which is the reason you don't attempt to make throws across your body/to the other side of the field) letting the defender jack up the receiver who had to jump and was left in a vulnerable position.

I don't know if Mariota will be better than Winston, but your analysis should be discarded.

 

[jurb26]

From the fair amount of today's workouts that I caught it seem that Marcus was very comfortable taking drops and making throws. I really only saw him miss one or two throws today. What I saw was a guy with all the tools who can quickly become proficient at the things that may have been lacking in his college experience. For a prospected so loved for his intangibles and athleticism but so question on his ability to make NFL throws this thread has been surprisingly quiet given the impressive display he seemed to me to put on today.

The criticism has never been his arm or mechanics. It's that he is timid in the pocket, bails to quickly and feels pressure that isn't there, isn't forced to make NFL reads and progression, struggles with the few circumstances when he's had too, the longer he holds the ball the worse his decisions become (it seems if the play design isn't there he struggles) and that he doesn't anticipate or throw guys open. He can make NFL throws and he had solid mechanics. None of today surprised me.

I just really can't see how anyone who watches his games could possibly come to this conclusion. Mariota is probably the best QB in college at extending the play, keeping his eyes downfield, and making big plays in that situation. He's certainly better than Winston at it.

People that make these types of comments didn't watch him at all this year.

Some of us are doing more than just watching the games.

 

[-CE-]

From the fair amount of today's workouts that I caught it seem that Marcus was very comfortable taking drops and making throws. I really only saw him miss one or two throws today. What I saw was a guy with all the tools who can quickly become proficient at the things that may have been lacking in his college experience. For a prospected so loved for his intangibles and athleticism but so question on his ability to make NFL throws this thread has been surprisingly quiet given the impressive display he seemed to me to put on today.

The criticism has never been his arm or mechanics. It's that he is timid in the pocket, bails to quickly and feels pressure that isn't there, isn't forced to make NFL reads and progression, struggles with the few circumstances when he's had too, the longer he holds the ball the worse his decisions become (it seems if the play design isn't there he struggles) and that he doesn't anticipate or throw guys open. He can make NFL throws and he had solid mechanics. None of today surprised me.

I just really can't see how anyone who watches his games could possibly come to this conclusion. Mariota is probably the best QB in college at extending the play, keeping his eyes downfield, and making big plays in that situation. He's certainly better than Winston at it.

People that make these types of comments didn't watch him at all this year.

Some of us are doing more than just watching the games.

You're lying or stupid about doing analysis then. Either one, your call chief.

 

[BassNBrew]

From the fair amount of today's workouts that I caught it seem that Marcus was very comfortable taking drops and making throws. I really only saw him miss one or two throws today. What I saw was a guy with all the tools who can quickly become proficient at the things that may have been lacking in his college experience. For a prospected so loved for his intangibles and athleticism but so question on his ability to make NFL throws this thread has been surprisingly quiet given the impressive display he seemed to me to put on today.

The criticism has never been his arm or mechanics. It's that he is timid in the pocket, bails to quickly and feels pressure that isn't there, isn't forced to make NFL reads and progression, struggles with the few circumstances when he's had too, the longer he holds the ball the worse his decisions become (it seems if the play design isn't there he struggles) and that he doesn't anticipate or throw guys open. He can make NFL throws and he had solid mechanics. None of today surprised me.

I just really can't see how anyone who watches his games could possibly come to this conclusion. Mariota is probably the best QB in college at extending the play, keeping his eyes downfield, and making big plays in that situation. He's certainly better than Winston at it.

People that make these types of comments didn't watch him at all this year.

Some of us are doing more than just watching the games.

You're lying or stupid about doing analysis then. Either one, your call chief.

"chief" that's a good one.

 

[cstu]

Mariota combine workout