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QB Marcus Mariota, WAS (2 Viewers)

Rotoworld:

Bleacher Report's Jason Cole reports it's looking "stronger and stronger" that the Chargers will acquire Tennessee's No. 2 overall pick, and draft Oregon QB Marcus Mariota.

Per Cole's sources, Philip Rivers and San Diego's No. 17 overall pick would be "just a start" in trade talks. We've still yet to see the smoking gun that this is going to happen, but nothing has been done to squash the rumors. It's not a fairy tale.

Related: Chargers, Titans

Source: Bleacher Report

Apr 16 - 4:10 PM
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Rotoworld:

The Cleveland Plain Dealer expects the Browns to make a "strong pitch" for Oregon QB Marcus Mariota.

The Browns haven't worked out Mariota, but that means little this time of year. Teams routinely eschew such visits yet draft the player. The Browns have unique perspective into the draft's No. 2 quarterback, as new QBs coach Kevin O'Connell spent six weeks mentoring Mariota before arriving in Cleveland. This isn't the first report linking Cleveland to Mariota. Owner Jimmy Haslam is consumed by the idea of finding a "franchise quarterback." With the Nos. 12 and 19 picks, the Browns have the ammunition to make a draft-day move.

Related: Browns

Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer

Apr 16 - 2:34 PM
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Rotoworld:

Marcus Mariota - QB - Ducks

Reese's Senior Bowl Executive Director and ESPN Insider Phil Savage said the hypothetical trade of Philip Rivers and picks for the No. 2 pick "makes so much sense" for both the Titans and Chargers.

"For the Tennessee Titans, they need to win now," Savage wrote on Twitter. The former NFL GM noted that Titans HC Ken Whisenhunt coached Rivers in 2013 and Rivers is from Athens, Ala., 1.5 hours from Nashville. "For the Chargers, (the trade) avoids stalemate/franchise tag in '16, answers long-term QB issue with Marcus Mariota and creates excitement if moving to LA," Savage tweeted.

Source: Phil Savage on Twitter

Apr 18 - 9:39 PM
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Rotoworld:

Marcus Mariota - QB - Ducks

NFL Media draft analyst Charles Davis said Philadelphia's nightmare draft scenario is Cleveland consummating a trade for Oregon QB Marcus Mariota.

"If Mariota begins to slide a bit, we all know which direction the chatter will turn to -- when will Chip Kelly make a move up from No. 20 to land his former Oregon quarterback?" Davis wrote. "Kelly has said he won't mortgage the future to trade up for Mariota, but if he falls to the Giants at No. 9, it should surprise no one if GM Jerry Reese's phone starts ringing." Of course, this assumes that the Titans aren't able to extract a ransom for the No. 2 pick. But we'll play along in the thought exercise, which probably works just as well for the No. 2 slot itself. Davis said the Browns, one of two teams that have two first-rounders (Saints), have more ammunition in draft equity to move up the board than Philadelphia and could do so if properly motivated. "Well, that would be a buzzkill, to say the least, in Philadelphia," he wrote.

Apr 18 - 11:22 PM
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Matt Miller on Twitter:

I do find it interesting that every fan in America can quote Jameis' 18 INTs but no one talks about Mariota's 27 fumbles.





 
I'm starting to get a gut feeling he goes #1.

Money on the line, I say Winston... But something just seems... fishy. Fishy enough for me to believe we see a Ben Roethlisberger face from Winston on draft day.

 
Soulfly3 said:
I'm starting to get a gut feeling he goes #1.

Money on the line, I say Winston... But something just seems... fishy. Fishy enough for me to believe we see a Ben Roethlisberger face from Winston on draft day.
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I would LOVE this for Mariota. Quality weapons and a great OC in Koetter (fantasy wise at least).

 
massraider said:
Matt Miller on Twitter:

I do find it interesting that every fan in America can quote Jameis' 18 INTs but no one talks about Mariota's 27 fumbles.
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Mariota fumbled the ball seven times this season and lost four of them. Most of his fumbles this season seemed to be on handoffs and due to him not being cognizant enough to protect the football in the pocket. The handoff issue happening more than once is an issue because Mariota rarely snapped the ball from under center at Oregon. This ball transition from the center to the quarterback will need to be practiced and refined to ensure that he doesn't lose the ball. As far as Mariota's interceptions, two of them were due to inaccuracy while one of them was due to missing an underneath linebacker.
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http://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/32xpss/gif_breakdown_marcus_mariotas_7_fumbles_and_4/

 
cstu said:
massraider said:
Matt Miller on Twitter:

I do find it interesting that every fan in America can quote Jameis' 18 INTs but no one talks about Mariota's 27 fumbles.
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Mariota fumbled the ball seven times this season and lost four of them. Most of his fumbles this season seemed to be on handoffs and due to him not being cognizant enough to protect the football in the pocket. The handoff issue happening more than once is an issue because Mariota rarely snapped the ball from under center at Oregon. This ball transition from the center to the quarterback will need to be practiced and refined to ensure that he doesn't lose the ball. As far as Mariota's interceptions, two of them were due to inaccuracy while one of them was due to missing an underneath linebacker.
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http://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/32xpss/gif_breakdown_marcus_mariotas_7_fumbles_and_4/
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Quarterbacks that throw picks in college generally throw picks in the pro's. I'd imagine fumbling is a lot more correctable with professional coaching.

 
amicsta said:
cstu said:
massraider said:
Matt Miller on Twitter:

I do find it interesting that every fan in America can quote Jameis' 18 INTs but no one talks about Mariota's 27 fumbles.
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Mariota fumbled the ball seven times this season and lost four of them. Most of his fumbles this season seemed to be on handoffs and due to him not being cognizant enough to protect the football in the pocket. The handoff issue happening more than once is an issue because Mariota rarely snapped the ball from under center at Oregon. This ball transition from the center to the quarterback will need to be practiced and refined to ensure that he doesn't lose the ball. As far as Mariota's interceptions, two of them were due to inaccuracy while one of them was due to missing an underneath linebacker.
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http://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/32xpss/gif_breakdown_marcus_mariotas_7_fumbles_and_4/
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Quarterbacks that throw picks in college generally throw picks in the pro's. I'd imagine fumbling is a lot more correctable with professional coaching.
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The system that the Ducks ran calls for a lot of reads while handing the ball off - this is not a designed play action pass, but rather an option run for the QB. The QB is responsible for these reads and quite often you'll see a fumble when the RB thinks the ball is his, and the QB is trying to pull it out... and the ball slips somewhere between them. It's certainly the QB's fault, but it's something that seems to occur to any team that runs this style of play.

But Still, Matt Millen quoting Mariota's 27 career college fumbles in a comparison to Winston's single year of interceptions is hilarious on three different levels. I know people try to say "Millen is a great analyst, just not a great coach..." no - he's a moron.

 
Waldman's opinion on drafting Mariota: doesn't believe in drafting QB's high who will need to wait a year or more to start. Believes it's better to take a sure thing (Leonard Williams) and then acquire a veteran QB.

I get what he's saying but since 2003 only one QB has won a Super Bowl with a different team than the one that drafted him (Brees).

http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/superbowl_quarterbacks/

How many teams that needed a QB passed on Russell Wilson and Drew Brees to take a 'safe' player in the 1st?

 
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cstu said:
cstu said:
QB Coach Will Hewlett compares Marcus Mariota to Tom Brady

Like Mariota, Brady needs a system that allows him to succeed.
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Overall great job, but I don't get Hewlett saying he wanted Mariota to get 'mad' and fire up his team ala Manziel.

Joe Montana didn't need to fire players up and like 'Joe Cool' I think 'Mellow Marcus' will be just fine as a leader.
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Perfect example with Joe Cool.

I think this whole "not a leader" thing is kind of bogus. I don't think you necessarily need a "leader" at the QB position. The Ravens won the championship with Ray "Murderer" Lewis as their leader. The whole "get mad and fire up your team" thing sounds stupid to me as well. Look at guys like Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Ben Roethlisberger, Eli Manning, Flacco - I don't see them screaming at that their teammates to fire them up. It's the ability to shake off what has happened, learn where the mistake was, be a professional going back out there that matters.

With that said I do like everything I've read about Winston's leadership abilities, but more importantly I like how many times he didn't meltdown when under pressure. Throws an interception, team is trailing, and he comes back out there in the clutch and wins the game. He doesn't go all Jay Cutler'effer on us. Mariota strikes me as a similar type of mentality as Winston - what's done is done, let's get back out there and win this game.

There might be some qualities leaders share but screaming at their teammates isn't always one of them.

 
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Rotoworld:

Asked whether the Browns were open to trading up for Oregon QB Marcus Mariota, coach Mike Pettine replied "sure, why not?"
It was a cheeky response to a question Pettine would obviously never answer truthfully, but by all indications, the Browns remain in play for the Oregon signal caller. Owner Jimmy Haslam has decreed that a franchise quarterback must be found, and his team boasts the Nos. 12 and 19 overall picks. Cleveland is not Mariota's most likely destination, but it cannot be ruled out.

Related: Browns

Source: Pat McManamon on Twitter
Apr 21 - 2:00 PM
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Rotoworld:

Oregon QB Marcus Mariota trade rumors will "pick up intensity in the coming week" and "the Cleveland Browns are the front runners and working hardest in the hopes of acquiring the quarterback," reports TFY Draft Insider's Tony Pauline.

"Early last week I was told the asking price from the Tennessee Titans was both of the Browns first round picks as well as their choice in the second round, to which Cleveland replied no," Pauline wrote. "Understandable Tennessee would have a high asking price at this point and even more understandable the Browns would say no. I’m told the Browns may be willing to part with both first round picks for Maroita but want to hold on to the second round choice to draft a much needed receiver." The Browns, owners of the Nos. 12 and 19 picks, employ QB coach Kevin O'Connell, who mentored Mariota before officially signing on in Cleveland. A handful of other teams led by Philadelphia figure to make offers to Tennessee before all is said and done.

Source: TFY Draft Insider
Apr 21 - 9:33 PM
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Rotoworld:

TFY Draft Insider Tony Pauline reports the Browns are the "front runners" to trade up and acquire Oregon QB Marcus Mariota.

This, of course, assumes the Bucs select Jameis Winston at No. 1 overall. According to Pauline, who is one of the kings of the pre-draft process, the Titans asked for the Browns Nos. 12 and 19 selections in the first round, as well as Cleveland's second-round pick in order to move up to No. 2 overall. The Browns turned them down. That's not an out-of-hand asking price from the Titans.

Related: Titans, Browns

Source: TFY Draft Insider
Apr 22 - 8:56 AM
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Hard to believe the Eagles wouldn't give up Bradford and two 1sts for Mariota.

If Mariota is Chip's guy then go get him.

 
Rotoworld:

An NFL analytics director believes Oregon QB Marcus Mariota should have been ranked higher on Mel Kiper's rankings than FSU's Jameis Winston.

"He does almost everything better than Winston and measures better in every category," the director said. A different analytics director expressed surprise that Mariota turned out to be bigger than expected. "ESPN's player-comparison tool sees Mariota as most athletically similar to Jake Locker and physically similar to Locker and Robert Griffin III among players with at least eight common data points," wrote Mike Sando. "Ryan Tannehill is very similar physically, except he has smaller hands. However, Tannehill did not work out at the combine, so he did not share enough data points with Mariota to factor."

Source: ESPN Insider
Apr 22 - 5:53 PM
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Wouldn't Cleveland be better off just trading up for Mariota. They'd have him at a reasonable salary for five years, and while there'd be a risk of him busting, what has Bradford done so far to show he's a franchise QB himself?

 
Dr. Octopus said:
Wouldn't Cleveland be better off just trading up for Mariota. They'd have him at a reasonable salary for five years, and while there'd be a risk of him busting, what has Bradford done so far to show he's a franchise QB himself?
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:shrug:

Apparently teams still believe in him.

I thought Chip already had a deal in principle with the Titans when he traded for Bradford. Wonder if we'll ever find out if that was the case.

 
cstu said:
Dr. Octopus said:
Wouldn't Cleveland be better off just trading up for Mariota. They'd have him at a reasonable salary for five years, and while there'd be a risk of him busting, what has Bradford done so far to show he's a franchise QB himself?
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:shrug: Apparently teams still believe in him.

I thought Chip already had a deal in principle with the Titans when he traded for Bradford. Wonder if we'll ever find out if that was the case.
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Doesn't seem likely. That trade was made right at the beginning of the league season. Bradford comes with a $13MM salary and the need to offer him a multi year extension before he even plays a game for your team. I think he's a pretty good QB, but is far from proven and while I hate the "injury prone" label, he hasn't managed to show he can stay healthy.

I really think all the Mariota to the Eagles talk is just speculation based on obvious reasons. I just don't see how it happens.

 
Marcus Mariota (Oregon)

http://i.imgur.com/XjeQbnD.jpg

Mariota has the highest QBASE projection since 2012. Since 1995, only six quarterbacks -- Philip Rivers, Carson Palmer, Donovan McNabb, Russell Wilson, Robert Griffin III and Peyton Manning -- had better projections. QBASE sees Mariota as a three-year starter who posted huge numbers without any weak point. Adjusting for opposition and teammates, Mariota's adjusted yards per attempt in his last college season, relative to other Division I quarterbacks, trails only Wilson and Griffin. In addition, QBASE likes that Mariota's completion percentage is high relative to his peers
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But are Mariota's numbers a product of the talent that surrounded him and the system in which he played? Mariota's projection accounts for Oregon having two tackles and a center projected to go in the early rounds of the 2015 and 2016 drafts, but makes no adjustments for Oregon's unusual pace of play. Questions about Mariota's ability to adapt to a more standard NFL offense do lend a note of caution to his projection. At the same time, the model also ignores Mariota's potential off-field strengths. And the two other quarterbacks with top-10 projections who got the most questions about their college production translating to the NFL -- Wilson and Aaron Rodgers -- both turned out well, although the concerns with Wilson and Rodgers were different from those with Mariota.

Simply put, there has not been a quarterback in the last three drafts with Mariota's chances of being an upper-tier to elite-level quarterback. He is far from a sure thing, but quarterback-hungry teams should not let Mariota slip by.
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Dr. Octopus said:
cstu said:
Dr. Octopus said:
Wouldn't Cleveland be better off just trading up for Mariota. They'd have him at a reasonable salary for five years, and while there'd be a risk of him busting, what has Bradford done so far to show he's a franchise QB himself?
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:shrug: Apparently teams still believe in him.

I thought Chip already had a deal in principle with the Titans when he traded for Bradford. Wonder if we'll ever find out if that was the case.
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Doesn't seem likely. That trade was made right at the beginning of the league season. Bradford comes with a $13MM salary and the need to offer him a multi year extension before he even plays a game for your team. I think he's a pretty good QB, but is far from proven and while I hate the "injury prone" label, he hasn't managed to show he can stay healthy.

I really think all the Mariota to the Eagles talk is just speculation based on obvious reasons. I just don't see how it happens.
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There's mention today that the eagles haven't even talked contract with Bradford yet.

 
God I hope the Bucs draft Mariota. I have been a fan since their inception,We havn't had a decent QB since

Doug Willams.I know most experts are saying draft Winston,but if they do that I am going to have to give up on them and revert back to being a Dolfan.I believe there are a lot of us who feel the same.

 
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rustycolts said:
God I hope the Bucs draft Mariota. I have been a fan since their inception,We havn't had a decent QB since

Doug Willams.I know most experts are saying draft Winston,but if they do that I am going to have to give up on them and revert back to being a Dolfan.I believe there are a lot of us who feel the same.
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For fans like you I hope you get Mariota. I'm jaded by all the awful FSU Bucs fans who want Winston and have said they deserve him, but that's not fair to all the decent Bucs fans.

 
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