QB Shedeur Sanders, CLE (3 Viewers)

[MAC_32]

The players attend practice, meetings, film room studies. They know from observation about other players.
Coaches know even more. Even if you have conspiracy theories of the coaches not giving him a chance because they don’t like him consider…
Odd, I haven’t heard a single player pound the table for Sanders.

I agree with the first part of your post about coaches having a lot more information than us regarding players. However, even if Sanders should be starting, I don’t find it remotely odd no Browns players are pounding the table for him to start. Players rarely publicly disagree with who the coaches choose to play, especially if they aren’t one of the players the coaches are choosing between.

I am 100% sure the players are done with Gabriel.

 

[zamboni]

The players attend practice, meetings, film room studies. They know from observation about other players.
Coaches know even more. Even if you have conspiracy theories of the coaches not giving him a chance because they don’t like him consider…
Odd, I haven’t heard a single player pound the table for Sanders.

I agree with the first part of your post about coaches having a lot more information than us regarding players. However, even if Sanders should be starting, I don’t find it remotely odd no Browns players are pounding the table for him to start. Players rarely publicly disagree with who the coaches choose to play, especially if they aren’t one of the players the coaches are choosing between.

The Browns are desperate for a QB. Their coaches and staff are all in danger of losing their jobs. I don't think anything is holding them back from playing Sanders other than a belief another QB gives them a better chance to win. We saw Sanders in preseason. Some of it was truly ugly.

Agree here. As mentioned above, we don’t know or see what goes behind the scenes like the coaches do.

One has to think that they feel Gabriel gives the team a better chance to win - perhaps because he’s safer in protecting the football and allowing the team to rely on its strong running game and generally solid defense.

I do think, however, that the media circus that would come with Sanders has to have some effect in trying to keep it simple.

At the end of the day though, wins are the only thing that is going to keep the coaching staff employed. Losing to the Jets last week - and in the manner they did - couldn’t have been a good look. If Gabriel really struggles in the first half against the surging Ravens (which is certainly possible), it wouldn’t shock me if we saw Sanders in the second half.

 

[Ilov80s]

The players attend practice, meetings, film room studies. They know from observation about other players.
Coaches know even more. Even if you have conspiracy theories of the coaches not giving him a chance because they don’t like him consider…
Odd, I haven’t heard a single player pound the table for Sanders.

I agree with the first part of your post about coaches having a lot more information than us regarding players. However, even if Sanders should be starting, I don’t find it remotely odd no Browns players are pounding the table for him to start. Players rarely publicly disagree with who the coaches choose to play, especially if they aren’t one of the players the coaches are choosing between.

The Browns are desperate for a QB. Their coaches and staff are all in danger of losing their jobs. I don't think anything is holding them back from playing Sanders other than a belief another QB gives them a better chance to win. We saw Sanders in preseason. Some of it was truly ugly.

Agree here. As mentioned above, we don’t know or see what goes behind the scenes like the coaches do.

One has to think that they feel Gabriel gives the team a better chance to win - perhaps because he’s safer in protecting the football and allowing the team to rely on its strong running game and generally solid defense.

I do think, however, that the media circus that would come with Sanders has to have some effect in trying to keep it simple.

At the end of the day though, wins are the only thing that is going to keep the coaching staff employed. Losing to the Jets last week - and in the manner they did - couldn’t have been a good look. If Gabriel really struggles in the first half against the surging Ravens (which is certainly possible), it wouldn’t shock me if we saw Sanders in the second half.

I think the media circus was a detriment to Sanders in the draft but now that he is on the team, I don't think it matters. He just takes too many sacks, you can't do that in the NFL.

 

[zamboni]

The players attend practice, meetings, film room studies. They know from observation about other players.
Coaches know even more. Even if you have conspiracy theories of the coaches not giving him a chance because they don’t like him consider…
Odd, I haven’t heard a single player pound the table for Sanders.

I agree with the first part of your post about coaches having a lot more information than us regarding players. However, even if Sanders should be starting, I don’t find it remotely odd no Browns players are pounding the table for him to start. Players rarely publicly disagree with who the coaches choose to play, especially if they aren’t one of the players the coaches are choosing between.

The Browns are desperate for a QB. Their coaches and staff are all in danger of losing their jobs. I don't think anything is holding them back from playing Sanders other than a belief another QB gives them a better chance to win. We saw Sanders in preseason. Some of it was truly ugly.

Agree here. As mentioned above, we don’t know or see what goes behind the scenes like the coaches do.

One has to think that they feel Gabriel gives the team a better chance to win - perhaps because he’s safer in protecting the football and allowing the team to rely on its strong running game and generally solid defense.

I do think, however, that the media circus that would come with Sanders has to have some effect in trying to keep it simple.

At the end of the day though, wins are the only thing that is going to keep the coaching staff employed. Losing to the Jets last week - and in the manner they did - couldn’t have been a good look. If Gabriel really struggles in the first half against the surging Ravens (which is certainly possible), it wouldn’t shock me if we saw Sanders in the second half.

I think the media circus was a detriment to Sanders in the draft but now that he is on the team, I don't think it matters. He just takes too many sacks, you can't do that in the NFL.

True, although I do think the heightened media attention with Sanders is something team brass would rather not deal with. At some point though, if the losses pile up, they may just throw caution to the wind.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

I am 100% sure the players are done with Gabriel.

Doesn't mean they are gung-ho for Sanders.
I distinctly recall years ago when Johnny Manziel was a rookie attending training camp giving an interview when veteran OT and soon to be Hall of Famer Joe Thomas came up behind him and aggressively dumped an ice bucket on his pathetic rookie head.
It was a tell.
Side note...
Saw an open mike scenario on the sidelines with SS and an UN-NAMED veteran Browns' player where the vet basically told Shedeur to get away from him in a terse manner.
It reminded me of the respected Joe Thomas and the pathetic coke head poser incident.

 

[King of the Jungle]

It is hard to figure out what Cleveland’s plan is. Many including myself didn’t understand the Gabriel pick, are they just throwing the season away by staying with him? Does Sanders look that bad that they think the result would be worse? I know once they pull Gabriel it partly admits they made a mistake with the pick, but the upside is nearly zero with him in the lineup and you might as well see what you have with Sanders. It is a circus either way, hopefully they can right their wrongs at the position in next years draft.

 

[MAC_32]

It is hard to figure out what Cleveland’s plan is. Many including myself didn’t understand the Gabriel pick, are they just throwing the season away by staying with him? Does Sanders look that bad that they think the result would be worse? I know once they pull Gabriel it partly admits they made a mistake with the pick, but the upside is nearly zero with him in the lineup and you might as well see what you have with Sanders. It is a circus either way, hopefully they can right their wrongs at the position in next years draft.

My theory - Gabriel was a Stefanski pick, Sheduer was Jimmy. AB's approach has always entailed giving his chefs the ingredients they want to cook - we've seen that with both Schwartz and Kev. It's a contributing factor why this team's never had a #1 WR. Listening to their priorities entering the season only reaffirmed this - don't turn the ball over and we'll win with scheme & this defense. And the eval clearly missed on Gabriel. No hindsight needed in my opinion either. I was aghast draft night and it's sustained since.

If there is something that takes down AB in January it's the OL. I think Kev's toast unless Sanders bails him out, which he probably won't. That OL and his flaw are oil and water.

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

Seems like a dammed if you do, dammed if you don't situation. If they march out Sanders and he does poorly then there will be a ton of excuses but if they don't start him then the Browns will keep getting neg attention for not doing so.

 

[Guss]

I don't know why the Browns drafted him to be honest

 

[Faust]

Adam Schefter
Shedeur Sanders entering the game:

https://x.com/adamschefter/status/1990195152225513660?s=61

 

[Footballdaz]

THIS IS WHY HE WAS A 5TH ROUNDER PEOPLE THAT DONT KNOW FOOTBALL


He's sucking exactly how I knew he would. Sack,sack, interception,fumble first couple drives.. I'm sure it's going to get worse in 4th quarter

 

[Harjiran]

Can he throw a pick 6? BAL D holders would be grateful.

 

[karl.Racki]

THIS IS WHY HE WAS A 5TH ROUNDER PEOPLE THAT DONT KNOW FOOTBALL


He's sucking exactly how I knew he would. Sack,sack, interception,fumble first couple drives.. I'm sure it's going to get worse in 4th quarter

I thought he didn't look bad.. It was his first game.. He drove them downfield and had a chance to tie. He may turn out to be trash, but I am not ready to call him that yet. I want to see him the rest of the season.

 

[ghostguy123]

THIS IS WHY HE WAS A 5TH ROUNDER PEOPLE THAT DONT KNOW FOOTBALL


He's sucking exactly how I knew he would. Sack,sack, interception,fumble first couple drives.. I'm sure it's going to get worse in 4th quarter

I thought he didn't look bad.. It was his first game.. He drove them downfield and had a chance to tie. He may turn out to be trash, but I am not ready to call him that yet. I want to see him the rest of the season.

I knew there would be a huge overreaction no matter what happened when he got in that.

He looked lost though. Tough to come I to your first game like that, but he looked horrible. Not the talent, the skill and preparation.

That said this game means nothing as far as whether he will be good or not

 

[Ministry of Pain]

. 4 completions, 16 pass attempts

-He makes ARich appear accurate

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Every pass and rush attempt from Shedeur Sanders' first NFL game | Week 11
The pass to Larvadain was spot-on but Gage is only 5'8 and a buck seventy-one, the ball got muscled away from him but 'should' have been a TD. It was RIGHT THERE.
Last year at Colorado, Shedeur had Travis Hunter who would have had the TD. Browns have Jeudy who admits he isn't the best battling for catches and a bunch of Smurfs at WR.

 

[Chaka]

Every pass and rush attempt from Shedeur Sanders' first NFL game | Week 11
The pass to Larvadain was spot-on but Gage is only 5'8 and a buck seventy-one, the ball got muscled away from him but 'should' have been a TD. It was RIGHT THERE.
Last year at Colorado, Shedeur had Travis Hunter who would have had the TD. Browns have Jeudy who admits he isn't the best battling for catches and a bunch of Smurfs at WR.

Tillman is 6'3", Bond & Corley 5'11", Njoku & Fannin 6'4". Larvadain, 5'8", is the only one who is short.

 

[MAC_32]

. 4 completions, 16 pass attempts

-He makes ARich appear accurate

How does he compare to Sean Clifford?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

. 4 completions, 16 pass attempts

-He makes ARich appear accurate

How does he compare to Sean Clifford?

With the way Sanders is going, he might want to start looking into other ventures like acting
I could see him cast in Necessary Roughness II

 

[JoeSteeler]

. 4 completions, 16 pass attempts

-He makes ARich appear accurate

How does he compare to Sean Clifford?

The big red dog?

 

[3C's]

https://t.co/PbrKXoaCyl

 

[Faust]

Daniel Oyefusi
Kevin Stefanski confirmed that the second half of today’s game was Shedeur Sanders’ first snaps with the starting offense since he was drafted by the Browns.

https://x.com/danieloyefusi/status/1990220273724141741?s=61

Stefanski was asked why Sanders wouldn't get a few starting practice reps during the week as the backup.

Stefanski: "You're always trying to get your starter ready to play. Certainly when your starter's a rookie, those are very valuable reps. When your backup is a rookie also, you do everything in your power to get our quarterback as many reps as possible. Post-practice, after practice, extra meeting time."

https://x.com/danieloyefusi/status/1990231370040246364?s=61

Kevin Stefanski on Shedeur Sanders: "Shedeur's made unbelievable strides in the meeting room, on the practice field. I know he wants to be better, and he will be better. But that's just what comes with hard work."

https://x.com/danieloyefusi/status/1990232240710922621?s=61

Shedeur Sanders on his NFL debut and when he found out he was leading the offense.

“I don’t think I played good,” said Sanders, who added that he thinks those were his first real passes to WR Jerry Jeudy

https://x.com/danieloyefusi/status/1990235059983675451?s=61

Wyatt Teller on Shedeur Sanders: "I think I have heard his cadence like, two or three times. I think going out of halftime, we all got on the line, and he said his cadence and we kind of got through it. Again, a lot of learning, but he played his heart out. We just fell short."

https://x.com/danieloyefusi/status/1990237756019077254?s=61

 

[Faust]

Jordan Schultz
Very classy from Shedeur Sanders:

“I’m extremely thankful. Let me say this: When Dillon’s out there playing, I appreciate the fans (cheering for me), but I’m a good person, so I don’t really like him not feeling comfortable and confident. It puts everything in a tough spot. It’s not helping the team.”

(: @923TheFan)

https://x.com/schultz_report/status/1990251920011739496?s=61

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Daniel Oyefusi
Kevin Stefanski confirmed that the second half of today’s game was Shedeur Sanders’ first snaps with the starting offense since he was drafted by the Browns.

https://x.com/danieloyefusi/status/1990220273724141741?s=61

Stefanski was asked why Sanders wouldn't get a few starting practice reps during the week as the backup.

Stefanski: "You're always trying to get your starter ready to play. Certainly when your starter's a rookie, those are very valuable reps. When your backup is a rookie also, you do everything in your power to get our quarterback as many reps as possible. Post-practice, after practice, extra meeting time."

https://x.com/danieloyefusi/status/1990231370040246364?s=61

Kevin Stefanski on Shedeur Sanders: "Shedeur's made unbelievable strides in the meeting room, on the practice field. I know he wants to be better, and he will be better. But that's just what comes with hard work."

https://x.com/danieloyefusi/status/1990232240710922621?s=61

Shedeur Sanders on his NFL debut and when he found out he was leading the offense.

“I don’t think I played good,” said Sanders, who added that he thinks those were his first real passes to WR Jerry Jeudy

https://x.com/danieloyefusi/status/1990235059983675451?s=61

Wyatt Teller on Shedeur Sanders: "I think I have heard his cadence like, two or three times. I think going out of halftime, we all got on the line, and he said his cadence and we kind of got through it. Again, a lot of learning, but he played his heart out. We just fell short."

https://x.com/danieloyefusi/status/1990237756019077254?s=61

1st snaps with the 1st team Offense since he was drafted by the Browns?
Seriously? Wow!

 

[mrfrood]

He reminded me of that one guy from a few years ago that started because like 4 of the quarterbacks were hurt. He was mainly a wide receiver in the NFL but played some QB in college. Anyone remember this guy?

*Edited* The guy I am thinking about was Kendall Hinton

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Every pass and rush attempt from Shedeur Sanders' first NFL game | Week 11
The pass to Larvadain was spot-on but Gage is only 5'8 and a buck seventy-one, the ball got muscled away from him but 'should' have been a TD. It was RIGHT THERE.
Last year at Colorado, Shedeur had Travis Hunter who would have had the TD. Browns have Jeudy who admits he isn't the best battling for catches and a bunch of Smurfs at WR.

Tillman is 6'3", Bond & Corley 5'11", Njoku & Fannin 6'4". Larvadain, 5'8", is the only one who is short.

Tillman gets hurt, A-LOT. Corely has 4 receptions for 26 yards on the year. Bond weighs 9 lbs. more than Lavardian. Njoku and Fannin are TIGHT ENDS not WIDE RECEIVERS.
My bad. The Browns are STACKED with Mega Tron clones.
Feh. They got nuffin at WR who can make a contested catch and the worst O-Line in the league.
Sanders sucked, admitted it and everyone is killing him, but he nailed the throw to Gage Larvadian who had the ball IN HIS HANDS, but it got muscled away by the DB.
I'm not apologizing for him like SOME... "SHEDEUR WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BAD TODAY!" Acho and Shady BREAK DOWN Shedeur Sanders' NFL Debut
Unc GOES OFF on Stefanski for NEVER giving Shedeur QB1 reps & SETTING him up to FAIL! | Nightcap
Don't take away from the obvious.
He did nail that throw to Gage who isn't big or strong enough to be an NFL WR who can make a contested catch.
If the catch is made for the TD, the narrative changes.
Give him a week with the starters, let the O-Line learn his cadence and allow him 'some time' getting his timing down with ALL of the receivers including the TEs and RBs.
Joe got six games and didn't do anything with THIS GROUP but lit it up with Bengals.
Dillion hasn't done it and he's had the reps and more than enough time.

 

[Footballdaz]

Both Browns QBs are career journeyman backups at best..

Now the excuses roll in on why SS sucked yesterday .

They try and make excuses for Labum Jr too. And he's playing even worse than last year.

 

[MAC_32]

Daniel Oyefusi
Kevin Stefanski confirmed that the second half of today’s game was Shedeur Sanders’ first snaps with the starting offense since he was drafted by the Browns.

https://x.com/danieloyefusi/status/1990220273724141741?s=61

Stefanski was asked why Sanders wouldn't get a few starting practice reps during the week as the backup.

Stefanski: "You're always trying to get your starter ready to play. Certainly when your starter's a rookie, those are very valuable reps. When your backup is a rookie also, you do everything in your power to get our quarterback as many reps as possible. Post-practice, after practice, extra meeting time."

https://x.com/danieloyefusi/status/1990231370040246364?s=61

Kevin Stefanski on Shedeur Sanders: "Shedeur's made unbelievable strides in the meeting room, on the practice field. I know he wants to be better, and he will be better. But that's just what comes with hard work."

https://x.com/danieloyefusi/status/1990232240710922621?s=61

Shedeur Sanders on his NFL debut and when he found out he was leading the offense.

“I don’t think I played good,” said Sanders, who added that he thinks those were his first real passes to WR Jerry Jeudy

https://x.com/danieloyefusi/status/1990235059983675451?s=61

Wyatt Teller on Shedeur Sanders: "I think I have heard his cadence like, two or three times. I think going out of halftime, we all got on the line, and he said his cadence and we kind of got through it. Again, a lot of learning, but he played his heart out. We just fell short."

https://x.com/danieloyefusi/status/1990237756019077254?s=61

1st snaps with the 1st team Offense since he was drafted by the Browns?
Seriously? Wow!

Why is this a surprise?

 

[beef]

Did Sanders play QB in college? Looked like that was the first time he ever played the position.

 

[msudaisy26]

Did Sanders play QB in college? Looked like that was the first time he ever played the position.

Didn't watch the game, but seen the highlights. Gave me Kendall Hinton vibes when he played qb for a game for the Broncos a few years ago.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Did Sanders play QB in college? Looked like that was the first time he ever played the position.

Yeah, he played and he practiced with the same players. Knew the system, had full support and confidence of the head coach, AND he even had reps with the game plan.
Shedeur hadn't had a single rep with the first team and hadn't played in a game since August. He played in that game in August where NONE of the O-Lineman are on an NFL roster.
No NFL QB needs to play for months or get reps with his receivers or offensive linemen or even have a chance to get any practice with a game plan.
Every NFL team is the exact same, so the playing field is COMPLETELY even with EVERY NFL QB. No one has ANY sort of advantage or disadvantage, nor any NFL rookie QB.
Very smart to make snap judgements and as we know every rookie should be instantly graded by their first NFL game.
Troy Aikman lost his first game 28-0, completing only 48.6% of his passes with zero touchdowns and two interceptions, his rookie season was awful. In 1989, Aikman went 0-11 as the team’s starter and his stats were atrocious. Aikman only threw for 1,749 yards, nine touchdowns, and 18 interceptions.
John Elway was soo nervous that he lined up under his guard instead of center and went 4-6 as a starter. He ultimately only threw for 1,663 yards, seven touchdowns, and 14 interceptions.
Peyton Manning set a record for most interceptions by a rookie with 28 in his first season.
But those nobodies were only the first players selected and had offenses installed specifically for them and got all of practice and reps and game plans to make their débuts easier.
Those nobodies didn't have the hype of a fifth-round pick like Sanders who 'should' be killed because a guy of his caliber who didn't have an offense built around him, didn't get practice or reps, hadn't played a snap in a game since August, and didn't even have a game plan SHOULD be instantly graded by his first game just like those other QBs who obviously went on to abject failure.

 

[Capella]

I don’t think he’s going to be very good but it’s extremely weird to bang on him for that game.

 

[-OZ-]

I don’t think he’s going to be very good but it’s extremely weird to bang on him for that game.

Agreed for the most part, but he just looked thoroughly lost. We’ve seen backup and even third string QBs play better when they get thrown into a game.
Granted, Gabriel has needed to be their focus.
Does anyone recall how much time Kirk cousins had with the starters when he was a rookie backing up a rookie? He played better when thrown into a game.

Overall this game did nothing to change opinions. I hope he plays most of the rest of the season so maybe we can get past this chapter of “hype vs hate”

 

[Bronco Billy]

Finally Sanders gets on the field in a regular season game. Hopefully after a few more appearances all but the most overtly biased sycophants will be able to see why Gabriel went 2 rounds earlier (but was still a 3rd round pick) and why Mr Legendary lasted until Rd 5, 2 rounds after Gabriel. Sanders simply does not have enough positive attributes to be a competent NFL QB.

Yesterday’s performance was not a fluke.

 

[cdclopper]

I don’t think he’s going to be very good but it’s extremely weird to bang on him for that game.

I dislike SS as much as anybody but this is a weird time for a victory lap. He was set up to fail here. Let's see what he does when in a more favorable situation. Probably still trash tbh. But give him a chance.

 

[Dizzy]

Did Sanders play QB in college? Looked like that was the first time he ever played the position.

That's because it was... in the NFL.

Per reports this morning, he has taken zero snaps with any first team players and yesterday was the FIRST TIME anyone has heard his cadence... which says that he wasn't even running the scout team.

It's the Browns. Miles Garrett should have left. I wonder if he spoke to Joe Thomas before taking the bag.

 

[Godsbrother]

Not making any snap judgements on Sanders but if the Browns had even a mediocre QB they might be in contention for the division.

Going with 2 rookies was a dreadful mistake.

 

[cdclopper]

Not making any snap judgements on Sanders but if the Browns had even a mediocre QB they might be in contention for the division.

Going with 2 rookies was a dreadful mistake.

I feel like they already had a mediocre quarterback and traded him to a division opponent.

 

[Bronco Billy]

Did Sanders play QB in college? Looked like that was the first time he ever played the position.

That's because it was... in the NFL.

Per reports this morning, he has taken zero snaps with any first team players and yesterday was the FIRST TIME anyone has heard his cadence... which says that he wasn't even running the scout team.

It's the Browns. Miles Garrett should have left. I wonder if he spoke to Joe Thomas before taking the bag.

If he’s running the scout team he’d be expected to simulate the cadence of the opposing QB during those sessions.

 

[-OZ-]

Did Sanders play QB in college? Looked like that was the first time he ever played the position.

That's because it was... in the NFL.

Per reports this morning, he has taken zero snaps with any first team players and yesterday was the FIRST TIME anyone has heard his cadence... which says that he wasn't even running the scout team.

It's the Browns. Miles Garrett should have left. I wonder if he spoke to Joe Thomas before taking the bag.

If he’s running the scout team he’d be expected to simulate the cadence of the opposing QB during those sessions.

Yeah, despite my strong dislike for the guy and my firm belief that he was among the most overvalued players by fans and the media, He’s not set up to succeed here. Give him a few weeks and then we’ll know that he really isn’t good.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

if the Browns had even a mediocre QB they might be in contention for the division.

They did with Flacco who did nothing with this roster because it is devoid of an offensive line and is bare of playmakers at the WR position.
Proof is how he instantly looked better in Nati with Chase and Higgins.

Going with 2 rookies was a dreadful mistake.

Yeah, the PLAN was to take Gabriel and then cleverly sit, watch, and wait for Shedeur to fall to the fifth round. THAT was the plan.
It wasn't like they took Dillion and then decided a fifth-round flyer was worth it on Sanders.
Then give reps to the starters because, ya know, they actually play in games.
Nope, all a conspiracy to not give reps and make Shedeur fail because THAT was the secret plan inside the overt plan of taking two rookie QBs. And if Shedeur actually plays 'ok' then it is the fault of the Browns for sitting him because that would be the super-secret plan inside the secret plan inside of the overt plan of taking two rookie QBs.
It's not like the Browns didn't have a franchise QB, traded down in the 1st round to pick up an extra 1st in 2026 to land a QB and took a QB and had one fall to them where they used a throw away fifth round pick.
Nope, the plan from the beginning was to take two rookie QBs and set them up to fail.

 

[-OZ-]

if the Browns had even a mediocre QB they might be in contention for the division.

They did with Flacco who did nothing with this roster because it is devoid of an offensive line and is bare of playmakers at the WR position.
Proof is how he instantly looked better in Nati with Chase and Higgins.

Going with 2 rookies was a dreadful mistake.

Yeah, the PLAN was to take Gabriel and then cleverly sit, watch, and wait for Shedeur to fall to the fifth round. THAT was the plan.
It wasn't like they took Dillion and then decided a fifth-round flyer was worth it on Sanders.
Then give reps to the starters because, ya know, they actually play in games.
Nope, all a conspiracy to not give reps and make Shedeur fail because THAT was the secret plan inside the overt plan of taking two rookie QBs. And if Shedeur actually plays 'ok' then it is the fault of the Browns for sitting him because that would be the super-secret plan inside the secret plan inside of the overt plan of taking two rookie QBs.
It's not like the Browns didn't have a franchise QB, traded down in the 1st round to pick up an extra 1st in 2026 to land a QB and took a QB and had one fall to them where they used a throw away fifth round pick.
Nope, the plan from the beginning was to take two rookie QBs and set them up to fail.

You ok bro?
This seems to have triggered something

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Let's recap.
Browns plan was to take two rookie QBs = false
Browns plan is/was to set-up Shedeur to fail = false
We have heard and keep hearing how the PLAN was to take 2-QBs and that Shedeur has been set up to fail and the absurd assumption that if Shedeur does play good or simply ok that the Browns should have given him all reps up to this point.
Flacco leaves, play well in Nati due to incredible playmakers so what is the conclusion?
Browns didn't use him well and set him up to fail.
If a vet like Flacco had issues due to one of the worst O-Lines and lack of playmakers how would anyone with half a brain think a late round QB flyer with zero reps would fare under the same circumstances?

 

[-OZ-]

Let's recap.
Browns plan was to take two rookie QBs = false
Browns plan is/was to set-up Shedeur to fail = false
We have heard and keep hearing how the PLAN was to take 2-QBs

Where have you been hearing this?

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Where have you been hearing this?

Ubiquitous if you are in or near Cleveland.
One anti-SS camp VS. the SS camp and the loudest voices are fringe as per usual.
Most people are reasonably in the middle but lean to some of the most bizarre takes of the fringe.

 

[Schmeabs]

Dillon Gabriel is an NFL quality back up QB. Shaduer Sanders doesn't belong in the NFL. I am sure the Browns will look to draft a QB in first round next year.

 

[Bri]

Most rookie QBs stink.
Many second year QBs still struggle.
This has been extremely predictable for the Browns.

Troy Aikman and Steve Walsh, RGIII and Cousins...there's probably been others.

The Browns do not have to be in this for the long haul in 2026. Pick one. Sign a vet. Pretend Watson is still good.

If they are committed to it, then it may be wise to trade some players near retirement and think of a new few year plan. They won't likely be all that next year so tweak the roster a bit so they're well set when one is good.

Saints fans are worrying if Shough and Rattler are both possibly not good enough. Also since Rattler showed significant improvement, is it wise to sit him now? They could be "in the same boat" as the Browns next year.

Today, some Levis fans are coming out of the wood work, wiping mayo off their face, and claiming maybe he's good and it was just the bad team and fired HC. The commitment to Ward is obvious and simplifies soooo much.

Until the Browns pick one, this talk will remain and it still could be a wise draft decision but...oof it's a tiring discussion

 

[Jewell]

The Shadeur saga is interesting because I don’t think most of the backlash is against Shadeur personally, but rather against his sycophantic supporters who’ve alleged there’s a conspiracy against him at every turn. Had those supporters not been so vocal in their conspiracy theories, there’d be a lot less people wanting to see Shadeur fail.

 

[Chaka]

I think the conspiracy theories about conspiracy theories are just as bad, if not worse.

Frankly, I don't know what conspiracy theories people are talking about in the first place.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Did Sanders play QB in college? Looked like that was the first time he ever played the position.

According to all the links that @Faust posted after the game, apparently his completion % will go up with a few 1st team snaps in practice this week
I didn't know you just needed snaps to learn how to throw or go from 25% to 65% completions