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Ran a 10k in June (8 Viewers)

Hey Sand, could you analyze something for me please? I am going to do the indoor tri I mentioned a few posts back. I did some searching and everyone is saying flip turns are the way to go. Being an OWS, tri guy I have never attempted a flip trun and really don't care to if I can avoid it. So, in a 10-minute swim I would think I can do 20+ lengths of a 25 meter pool, even with wall grab turn (which, looking at past results should put me in the top 1/3rd of all finishers). Anyhthing past a 1/2 length gets couted as such. Could flip turning over 10-minutes really get me more than a 1/2 length? I'll have about 10 nights in the pool to practice and there is an old school (dude's like 83) swim coach I could tap for help. Right now, I don't think the risk/reward is worth it if I end up sucking at the turn. Whadda think.
No way, man. It isn't just the flip turn, it is getting used to that particular motion and the large amount of energy it takes. Not to mention you are under water for longer and have to worry about being out of breath by the time you come back up. In practice I don't even do flip turns - too much energy for something I won't ever do in open water. I didn't do any in the pool tri I did either (didn't stop me from kicking the other 40 guys in my AG's ### :) ) I was on the fence about doing them in the pool tri, but the crowded walls made my decision for me (in a time race like you are doing I'd probably do them). I don't think this is something that you can learn sufficiently in 10 days that will give you an advantage. If you want to get faster on the turns work on regular open turns. Hit the wall hard and do a typical

Awesomeness, thanks! Follow up question, at the turn, would I gain speed by spending a bit more time under water and if so, what does that look like (stroke, position, etc)? I don't want to monkey with too much, but am also way competitive and if I can gain a bit with out screwing up my stroke for next season, what the heck!
 
Hey Sand, could you analyze something for me please? I am going to do the indoor tri I mentioned a few posts back. I did some searching and everyone is saying flip turns are the way to go. Being an OWS, tri guy I have never attempted a flip trun and really don't care to if I can avoid it. So, in a 10-minute swim I would think I can do 20+ lengths of a 25 meter pool, even with wall grab turn (which, looking at past results should put me in the top 1/3rd of all finishers). Anyhthing past a 1/2 length gets couted as such. Could flip turning over 10-minutes really get me more than a 1/2 length? I'll have about 10 nights in the pool to practice and there is an old school (dude's like 83) swim coach I could tap for help. Right now, I don't think the risk/reward is worth it if I end up sucking at the turn. Whadda think.
No way, man. It isn't just the flip turn, it is getting used to that particular motion and the large amount of energy it takes. Not to mention you are under water for longer and have to worry about being out of breath by the time you come back up. In practice I don't even do flip turns - too much energy for something I won't ever do in open water. I didn't do any in the pool tri I did either (didn't stop me from kicking the other 40 guys in my AG's ### :ninja: ) I was on the fence about doing them in the pool tri, but the crowded walls made my decision for me (in a time race like you are doing I'd probably do them). I don't think this is something that you can learn sufficiently in 10 days that will give you an advantage. If you want to get faster on the turns work on regular open turns. Hit the wall hard and do a typical

Don't concentrate on time under the water - wrong concept. Concentrate on a snappy reversal at the turn and a good, quick, hard push. From there the time under the water should coincide with the momentum you have from the wall push along with a couple freestyle kicks under water. Maintain speed and break the surface right when you need that first stroke.
 
2Young2BBald said:
Darrinll40 said:
He picked up the pace a bit at the halfway point. 2:05:22 with a predicted 4:10 finish.
Through mile 20 in 3:14, set to finish in about 50 minutes. Dude was sandbagging on us, he is killing it!
Make that He KILLED IT!!!:4:16:39 for a 9:48 pace.CONGRATS MEEKA, what a perfect race!
 
2Young2BBald said:
Darrinll40 said:
He picked up the pace a bit at the halfway point. 2:05:22 with a predicted 4:10 finish.
Through mile 20 in 3:14, set to finish in about 50 minutes. Dude was sandbagging on us, he is killing it!
Make that He KILLED IT!!!:4:16:39 for a 9:48 pace.CONGRATS MEEKA, what a perfect race!
Looks like he was pretty consistent all the way through. Nice job, Meeka.You have been officially put on the "sandbag alert" list.
 
Memo to self: Your application for membership in the Marathon Club has been approved!

Pretty cool to see that you guys were tracking me while I raced. It was a pretty steady pace for much of the race, but could not come in under 4:15. I am about to take a nap. I will be back with a better race recap in a couple of hours.

I'm OK being on the sandbag list. I am usually a plan for the worst kind of guy and missing a month of training had me very nervous to predict an actual time. This finish time I think was best case scenario.

 
Great race, Meeka!! I'm looking forward to your race report!

Did my 2nd 20 miler this morning - out the door at 6:10 into the cold (48) dark morning.

The good news is that I did it faster than two weeks ago (3:13:40 v 3:16:31) despite losing almost 2:30 on an emergency bathroom stop at 10 miles (stupid banana!). At least they have an actual bathroom at the forest preserve!! The better news is that I did not walk at the end at all (perhaps aided by my "break" at 10). I'm not saying I didn't WANT to - I just managed to keep myself moving.

The bad news is that because of the stop, I finished a few seconds/mile over my goal pace (understandable) and I had to slow down the last 5 miles again. Through 15 I had neg splits going strong.

 
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Not a marathon, but my last week of 5k prep is here. Popped off 4.5 miles at 8:05/mile yesterday and 3.85 miles in 7:38/mile today. Trying to keep it shorter and faster until game time next weekend.

Note sure what to expect for the race. There are ~8000 entrants. Over half will be walking, but still that is a crapload of people on the road.

 
I ran a half marathon today. My longest run ever and my knees and ankles are paying for it. Any suggestions to help with the soreness?

 
Not a marathon, but my last week of 5k prep is here. Popped off 4.5 miles at 8:05/mile yesterday and 3.85 miles in 7:38/mile today. Trying to keep it shorter and faster until game time next weekend.Note sure what to expect for the race. There are ~8000 entrants. Over half will be walking, but still that is a crapload of people on the road.
I've barely run at all (and not in a race) since the baby was born. I finally decided today that I was going to do the Komen Austin the first weekend in November. I'm really looking forward to it. Good luck with your race next weekend.
 
I ran a half marathon today. My longest run ever and my knees and ankles are paying for it. Any suggestions to help with the soreness?
Yep. Ice bath. :shrug: Fill your tub with cold tap water. Dump in two (2) seven-pound bags of ice. Sit in water for 10-15 minutes. Take warm shower afterwards.You'll definitely feel better tomorrow.Great job today, BTW!!!! And stick around!
 
Man, a big deal like Chicago does not allow live online updates. To track gruecd I will have to register and get emails of his progress when he crosses checkpoints.

I didn't post for almost a year and I am still 7th in total posts.

 
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I ran a half marathon today. My longest run ever and my knees and ankles are paying for it. Any suggestions to help with the soreness?
Yep. Ice bath. :hey: Fill your tub with cold tap water. Dump in two (2) seven-pound bags of ice. Sit in water for 10-15 minutes. Take warm shower afterwards.You'll definitely feel better tomorrow.Great job today, BTW!!!! And stick around!
:goodposting: ...though I put ice in a bag for the knees/quads while sitting in the tub (hard to stretch the legs out completely), rather than dumping it in.And, yes, congrats! lol You set a PR at the half-marathon distance! Give yourself a couple of days off.----Two weeks til my (and PMB's, too) marathon. Had a good 34 mile week. Today was a productive 12 mile run: easy three miles, then 6 miles just under marathon pace (8:08/mile today) and the final 3 miles at a perky 7:46/mile.
 
I ran a half marathon today. My longest run ever and my knees and ankles are paying for it. Any suggestions to help with the soreness?
Yep. Ice bath. :confused: Fill your tub with cold tap water. Dump in two (2) seven-pound bags of ice. Sit in water for 10-15 minutes. Take warm shower afterwards.You'll definitely feel better tomorrow.Great job today, BTW!!!! And stick around!
As I recall, I used Bourbon to ease the soreness after my 1st 1/2. It helped, but probably not in the way you are looking for. Ice Bath is a great suggestion and make sure to continue to hydrate (seriously, with water, not booze). Congratulations on the 1st 1/2!!!!
 
I ran a half marathon today. My longest run ever and my knees and ankles are paying for it. Any suggestions to help with the soreness?
Yep. Ice bath. :excited: Fill your tub with cold tap water. Dump in two (2) seven-pound bags of ice. Sit in water for 10-15 minutes. Take warm shower afterwards.You'll definitely feel better tomorrow.Great job today, BTW!!!! And stick around!
I've sat in two cold baths today. Definitely feel better after each one and I took two advil. Next up the Iceman Cometh mountain bike race in November.I'm going to do 2-3 sprint tri's next year.
 
I ran a half marathon today. My longest run ever and my knees and ankles are paying for it. Any suggestions to help with the soreness?
Yep. Ice bath. :wall: Fill your tub with cold tap water. Dump in two (2) seven-pound bags of ice. Sit in water for 10-15 minutes. Take warm shower afterwards.You'll definitely feel better tomorrow.Great job today, BTW!!!! And stick around!
I've sat in two cold baths today. Definitely feel better after each one and I took two advil. Next up the Iceman Cometh mountain bike race in November.I'm going to do 2-3 sprint tri's next year.
Are you here in MI too? If so, you've struck the mother lode of Sprint Tris. No matter where you are at, you can race just about any weekend all summer long.
 
I ran a half marathon today. My longest run ever and my knees and ankles are paying for it. Any suggestions to help with the soreness?
Yep. Ice bath. :thumbup: Fill your tub with cold tap water. Dump in two (2) seven-pound bags of ice. Sit in water for 10-15 minutes. Take warm shower afterwards.You'll definitely feel better tomorrow.Great job today, BTW!!!! And stick around!
I've sat in two cold baths today. Definitely feel better after each one and I took two advil. Next up the Iceman Cometh mountain bike race in November.I'm going to do 2-3 sprint tri's next year.
Are you here in MI too? If so, you've struck the mother lode of Sprint Tris. No matter where you are at, you can race just about any weekend all summer long.
Yep I'm in S.E. Michigan. :wall:
 
I ran a half marathon today. My longest run ever and my knees and ankles are paying for it. Any suggestions to help with the soreness?
So the real question is how did it go did you off anyone on the course?
:popcorn: It did cross my mind. We were on a wooded trail and there was this chick in blue running in front of me and I nvm. I don't need a time out.
 
Race report:

Weather was ideal today for my first marathon. I must say that the Twin Cities Marathon is an excellent race. Tons of volunteers, tons of people there cheering you on, and it was really nice to run a course on some spots that I am familiar with.

I was nervous at the start, but felt ready for the task at hand. I almost tripped over a half full bottle of Gatoraide while I was still in the coral and it was getting kicked around a bit by people near me. Then they guy behind me says, "I have a feeling that is not Gatoraide in there." That is when I knew that this was the real deal.

The first several miles were tough mentally. It was a constant effort to keep our pace slow enough to make sure we could finish. I opted for a long sleeve shirt over my sleeveless shirt and knew I could drop that off with my wife at 7 miles when we ran past. I did ditch the shirt then, but that may have been a mistake. The temp stayed around 50 and the wind was not too bad, but I did feel cold most of the race after I dropped my shirt. I had thoughts of hypothermia, but I think that was more race day paranoia than any close to an actual problem.

Just as we are passing 13.1 I see a guy with a 80+ tag on his back shuffling along and I wonder to myself how it took me 13 miles to pass this guy. Major props to that guy.

It was awesome to pass mile 16 knowing that there were only 10 miles left and I felt like I could start counting them down. Unfortunately this is when my running buddie started to struggle with some knee pain. We had to add a quick 30 second walk at about 18.5 because the pain in his knee was getting to him. Luckily by mile 20 he was feeling better.

Mile 20. The race begins. I knew that my wife and kids would be waiting around 20.75 as we cross under the Lake Street bridge and just before we hit the hills. It was great to see my wife and 2 older kids this late in the race. It was a breath of fresh air to say the least. I knew that the last 6.2 would be a challenge, but I was in great shape mentally and physically. We powered up the hills that lead you up to Summit and I knew once we hit Summit we would have a 1 mile climb til we got to mile 23. I remember telling my buddy that my legs still felt good. Better than the last part of our 20 mile run still. By mile marker 23 it was a different story. My legs were killing me, and running at 10 m/m pace was about the best we could do. It hurt, it sucked, but if it was not tough I would not feel so proud of myself for getting it done.

Mile 25. Now it is getting fun. We are 1.2 from the finish and we are feeling good. We were gliding by people like we were on skates. The run/walk method did keep us pretty fresh twords the end. It was a nice for a first marathon. After a couple of tough miles and knowing that 4:15 was no longer an option we enjoyed blowing by people that last mile. We ran at 8 m/m from 25.5 to the finish line. When we hit top of the hill on Summit and began our run down John Ireland Blvd. and could see the 26th mile marker and the finish line just past that we had enough motivation to keep going.

4:16:39

That looks pretty good to me. A PR! I'll take it.

The whole post race woddle around was a wierd feeling. My legs were killing me, but to get some food, and my medal, and my finishers shirt, then my sweats bag I felt like I was hobbling around all over the place. The metallic blanket was like heaven. After being cold for so long it was great to start to get warm. No doubt my biggest challenge of the day was trying to get my fleece pants on after the race. Did not want to sit down, so I did it standing up. Not easy. The post race spread was pretty nice. By the time we left the runner area and met up with our families I was ready to get off my feet. It was a 4 or 5 block walk back to the car, but all of that was probably for the best. I have a ton of blisters on my feet, but I am feeling great now. I do not think that will be my last marathon.

 
Congratulations Meeka!

What's up with the blisters on your feet? Doesn't sound too good.

I hope to know that "gliding by" people feeling in December - never experienced it (4 tries and I'M alwasy one of the glidees!)

Well done to Dexter as well!! (I echo the ice bath comments, although I just fill the jacuzzi tub with cold water now, sans ice. Seems to work as well)

 
Congratulations Meeka! What's up with the blisters on your feet? Doesn't sound too good.
Thanks. The blisters are not a big deal. I have always had trouble with blisters. Tennis in high school was the worst, but I always get a blister or 2 on my long runs. Today there are just a few more than normal. The good news is all but one of them are very small and on my toes and will probably be gone tomorrow. The one on the side of my foot may stick around for a bit.
 
meeka said:
Race report: Just as we are passing 13.1 I see a guy with a 80+ tag on his back shuffling along
NO! I did not quietly slip into meeka's race.Chicago forecast for Sunday (gruecd and DolphinsPhan) - high of 44; low of 30.
 
meeka - Great race. I can remember my first one (so far the only on, for two weeks) and hitting mile 23 and thinking WTF am I doing. This is a dumb thing to do. Then I finished and started thinking when I was going to do my next one. It is such a sickness. Great race though and sounds like you also had a good time.

I had a 4 miler at Marathon pace on Saturday which I rocked and Sunday was a hilly 12 miler that I thought was pretty easy. Tri, happy belated birthday and you are an overachiever with your timed 12 miler yesterday. I just wanted to get it done and try and stay fresh. I was able to do them all in 8:15/mile with a walk break every 2.5 miles just to not over do it. I am pretty happy with that time and pace even with the walking. I can't believe I (and tri) are two weeks out now from the marathon. It has came up so fast, but I am looking forward to it.

 
My best training run yesterday - 11 miler through quite a few hills. Managed a 9 minute/mile pace, which is well ahead of my marathon goal pace. Still in week 4 of a 20 week training program and feeling great.

 
Chicago forecast for Sunday (gruecd and DolphinsPhan) - high of 44; low of 30.
:thumbup: :excited: :thumbup: Can't. Effing. Wait.

Got up early yesterday morning and drove to Milwaukee to support a bunch of friends running Lakefront. The weather was a little chilly for spectating, but it was perfect for running. PR's and BQ's everywhere. Not like I wasn't already excited, but seeing all of my friends killing it out there really got me going for next weekend. I've trained my ### off this cycle, and as one of my friends pointed out yesterday, my workouts have been noticeably better. And now the weather is looking absolutely gorgeous. Can't wait to do this thing.

Meeka - FANTASTIC debut performance, my friend. Very cool. :thumbup: I did the TC10 in 2006 and 2007, but I haven't done the marathon since 2005. It's a beautiful course, and like you said, the crowd support is great. Maybe next year that'll be my "warm-up" race for the Fall 50....

SteveUK - You're nuts. The Chicago forecast looks absolutely PERFECT.

wraith - Nice job on the 20. Sometimes it's just a matter of putting one foot in front of the other. You're gonna do great in Tucson!

Sand - Good luck in the 5K on Saturday. Honestly, with that many people running, I'd line up relatively close to the front. Just make sure you don't get sucked out too fast....

Dexter - I already said it, but congrats on finishing your first half. Savor it for a few days, then let us know which marathon you're going to be running! :excited:

bentley - That's a 5K, right? Kudos for getting back on the wagon.

Darrin - Yeah, it looks like you need to sign up for text/E-mail alerts. Maybe they'll be live online tracking on race day. I don't know for sure. I'm bib #589, if that helps.

tri-man - That's a good run yesterday. Enjoy the taper.

PMB - You, too. Nice job yesterday!

Workhorse - Why are you doing your training runs faster than GMP??? Unless otherwise specified, you generally want to do your long runs 10-20% slower than GMP.

GO PACK GO!!!!

 
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Hi All! Great to hear that both Meeka and Dexter had PR's :mellow: It's also great having this many people in taper mode = lot's of race reports on the horizon!!!!

2Young: I also agree that it's not a good time to start trying to do a kick turn. I've frustrated myself a few times working on them, and simply suck at them = Butterfly turns are your answer.

Gruecd: if you want to stop in Milwaukee for a break/beer on your way down to Chicago, shoot me a PM.

Wisconsinites/FIB's: I'll be in Milwaukee Wed. thru Sun. and will be looking for running and drinking partners :banned:

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My Update:

My luck with weather is officially laughable at this point. We had some cooler weather last week (each day was on an off-day), but come Sunday morning (long-run day), it was 77 degrees with 90+% humidity. You could literally feel yourself cutting through the air. I had hoped to do 3x 6 mile loops for a total of 18 miles, but could barely get through one. I ran a short loop in our complex to finish just 7.2 of my desired 18 miles. It was cooler this morning (only 68 degrees!!!), so I did get up and get a quick 6 in this morning which is against my normal running schedule (no back-to-back runs). The great news is that my next long run will be in Milwaukee on Friday where it is guaranteed to be the coolest run I've had in 7 months. My only fear is that it will be too cool. IF I can't survive 18 to 20 miles on that run, I will seriously have to contemplate if I actually want to try to run the Ultra, which is now less than 5 weeks away. IF I can get to 18, and then hopefully a 20 the following week, I will still give it a try in hopes that my body is ready, but the weather has held me back :praying:

Enjoy Tapering everyone!!!!!!

 
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Thanks everyone! My next race is a mountain bike race, The Iceman Cometh.

http://www.iceman.com/

The Iceman Cometh Challenge is a 27 mile point-to-point mountain bike race from Kalkaska to Traverse City, Michigan. Held traditionally on the first Saturday of November (except for years when the first Saturday of November is the 1st)

 
Thanks everyone! My next race is a mountain bike race, The Iceman Cometh.

http://www.iceman.com/

The Iceman Cometh Challenge is a 27 mile point-to-point mountain bike race from Kalkaska to Traverse City, Michigan. Held traditionally on the first Saturday of November (except for years when the first Saturday of November is the 1st)
:jealous:
 
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Sand said:
Dexter said:
Thanks everyone! My next race is a mountain bike race, The Iceman Cometh.

http://www.iceman.com/

The Iceman Cometh Challenge is a 27 mile point-to-point mountain bike race from Kalkaska to Traverse City, Michigan. Held traditionally on the first Saturday of November (except for years when the first Saturday of November is the 1st)
:jealous:
Wow that race looks amazing. hmmm maybe I need to look into doing this.
 
Workhorse - Why are you doing your training runs faster than GMP??? Unless otherwise specified, you generally want to do your long runs 10-20% slower than GMP.
That's usually the case but I felt amazingly strong yesterday so I decided to push myself a bit. As I build mileage, I plan on slowing down my long runs to approx. 10 mile/min pace.
 
Sand said:
Thanks everyone! My next race is a mountain bike race, The Iceman Cometh.

http://www.iceman.com/

The Iceman Cometh Challenge is a 27 mile point-to-point mountain bike race from Kalkaska to Traverse City, Michigan. Held traditionally on the first Saturday of November (except for years when the first Saturday of November is the 1st)
:jealous:
There is a lottery for the regular Joe Schmoes to get in. If you get in, though, I'll be cheering for you. It is a tough race.

 
Sounds like you had a great race meeka. I wish I was not so lazy so that I could run a full marathon, but halfs are probably going to be my limit.

I am looking forward to seeing how badly gruecd kills Chicago, plus all the other race reports in the next couple weeks.

 
So who are all of the Chicago Marathoners, and what are your goal times?
You're gonna make me put it in writing? OK, considering the near-perfect weather forecast, I'm gonna start at 3:08 pace and hopefully negative split to run somewhere between 3:05-3:08.But anything under 3:10:00 is a PR, and anything 3:10:59 or faster gets me into Boston.
 
So who are all of the Chicago Marathoners, and what are your goal times?
You're gonna make me put it in writing? OK, considering the near-perfect weather forecast, I'm gonna start at 3:08 pace and hopefully negative split to run somewhere between 3:05-3:08.But anything under 3:10:00 is a PR, and anything 3:10:59 or faster gets me into Boston.
You are so ready to go under 3:10. I can't wait to check in on Sunday to see how you did. I think I will sign up for the updates. It was very cool to come back home on Sunday and see that people were tracking my race while I was out there.By the way...Why does nobody tell you that your legs only get more and more sore for the next 30 hours after the race? I thought my thighs were stiff and sore this morning, but they have only gotten worse today. I kind of like the soreness. Makes me feel like I did something.
 
__________________________________________________My Update:My luck with weather is officially laughable at this point. We had some cooler weather last week (each day was on an off-day), but come Sunday morning (long-run day), it was 77 degrees with 90+% humidity. You could literally feel yourself cutting through the air. I had hoped to do 3x 6 mile loops for a total of 18 miles, but could barely get through one. I ran a short loop in our complex to finish just 7.2 of my desired 18 miles. It was cooler this morning (only 68 degrees!!!), so I did get up and get a quick 6 in this morning which is against my normal running schedule (no back-to-back runs). The great news is that my next long run will be in Milwaukee on Friday where it is guaranteed to be the coolest run I've had in 7 months. My only fear is that it will be too cool. IF I can't survive 18 to 20 miles on that run, I will seriously have to contemplate if I actually want to try to run the Ultra, which is now less than 5 weeks away. IF I can get to 18, and then hopefully a 20 the following week, I will still give it a try in hopes that my body is ready, but the weather has held me back :praying: Enjoy Tapering everyone!!!!!!
68 is the best I can hope for this side of December...lol
 
So who are all of the Chicago Marathoners, and what are your goal times?
You're gonna make me put it in writing? OK, considering the near-perfect weather forecast, I'm gonna start at 3:08 pace and hopefully negative split to run somewhere between 3:05-3:08.But anything under 3:10:00 is a PR, and anything 3:10:59 or faster gets me into Boston.
You are so ready to go under 3:10. I can't wait to check in on Sunday to see how you did. I think I will sign up for the updates. It was very cool to come back home on Sunday and see that people were tracking my race while I was out there.By the way...Why does nobody tell you that your legs only get more and more sore for the next 30 hours after the race? I thought my thighs were stiff and sore this morning, but they have only gotten worse today. I kind of like the soreness. Makes me feel like I did something.
I always get the affliction "2nd day soreness". It used to kick my ### when I played competitive softball & indoor soccer and hits me hard when I run. I typically walk it off the day of a race and the next and then WHAM two days after I am a wreck. I am thinking age might have something to do with it.
 
I've read this thread often but I'm a first time poster. Congrats to everyone's successes this year.

I'm running the Chicago marathon Sunday like some others here. This is my second marathon. Last year I finished at 3:50. My goal is 3:30 this year. I could have trained harder and be better prepared, but I guess we all can say that.

Kind of a stupid question, but what are you wearing? 40s seem too cold for shorts and short sleeves but I prefer not to run in winter gear. I'm considering regular summer gear plus light gloves.

 
Kind of a stupid question, but what are you wearing? 40s seem too cold for shorts and short sleeves but I prefer not to run in winter gear. I'm considering regular summer gear plus light gloves.
Shorts and a singlet, light gloves (the white, string knit work gloves that you buy at a hardware store for $1) and maybe arm warmers. Basically the way I'm dressed in this picture.Good luck on Sunday!!

 
I've read this thread often but I'm a first time poster. Congrats to everyone's successes this year. I'm running the Chicago marathon Sunday like some others here. This is my second marathon. Last year I finished at 3:50. My goal is 3:30 this year. I could have trained harder and be better prepared, but I guess we all can say that.Kind of a stupid question, but what are you wearing? 40s seem too cold for shorts and short sleeves but I prefer not to run in winter gear. I'm considering regular summer gear plus light gloves.
If it's in the 40's, my priorities are primarily running tights to keep some warmth on the legs and gloves for the hands (that's where I first notice the chill). Depending on wind, or not, I'd go either short or long sleeve, and if temp is on the low end, I'll consider my tri-top underneath to retain some upper body warmth. Also, based on temp, I'll either wear a running hat or if colder (< 40), my winter cap worn loosely. None of this restricts my movement (esp for marathon pacing), and I prefer smart and kind of warm over tough and kind of cold. :oldmanmuscles: :shrug:That's a big improvement goal for you! At least you can take off with the 8:00/mile pacer and hang on that pack ...let them do your work. Good luck ...let us know.
 
Kind of a stupid question, but what are you wearing? 40s seem too cold for shorts and short sleeves but I prefer not to run in winter gear. I'm considering regular summer gear plus light gloves.
Shorts and a singlet, light gloves (the white, string knit work gloves that you buy at a hardware store for $1) and maybe arm warmers. Basically the way I'm dressed in this picture.Good luck on Sunday!!
For some reason this made me laugh a bit. I woke up this morning to 75 degrees and 95% humidity; and looked at the weather for Milwaukee while I'm there, and can't picture myself in short sleeves with a 35 degree drop in temps. I may have to wear the same clothes to the conference everyday so that I have enough room in my bag (I won't check any baggage) for all the running options I'm going to need. For cooler races, I like to buy a cheap hoodie to wear while I'm getting warmed up. It keeps my head and hands warm, and if I have to, I won't feel bad just throwing it into the crowd at mile 1.

 

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