GL. That's a nice event. I never did it but my wife did a couple of times.Well, the day has arrived! Indy Mini Marathon 13.1 here I come. Have to go off in the last corral due to my short stint with achilles swelling but giving it a go!
My time is just a formality. Ha!
Have fun! That's an event I've wanted to do but never have, yet.Well, the day has arrived! Indy Mini Marathon 13.1 here I come. Have to go off in the last corral due to my short stint with achilles swelling but giving it a go!
My time is just a formality. Ha!
Congrats! Great run! See...you're still so new to this that you really don't know what you're capable of yet. That's one of the reasons why many of us have stressed that you focus on a solid long-term training plan (which can certainly include races along the way) and enjoy the gains as they come.25:25!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
About 30 seconds ahead of my goal for may 17th. Might be setting a new goal for that day.
I never said I wouldn't focus on long term gains. I just said I wouldn't until after May 17thCongrats! Great run! See...you're still so new to this that you really don't know what you're capable of yet. That's one of the reasons why many of us have stressed that you focus on a solid long-term training plan (which can certainly include races along the way) and enjoy the gains as they come.25:25!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
About 30 seconds ahead of my goal for may 17th. Might be setting a new goal for that day.
 Yup, :whoosh: Right over my head. That's what I get for responding while jet lagged and in the middle of a five-day work trip that included several evening "networking and entertainment events" where I may or may not have been consistently overserved.I was trying to figure out if steve and duck just have a really dry sense of humor and were playing along or if i didnt make it obvious enough.So I am racing this guy down to 200 pounds and this 15 pounds is very important to me. Can you guys give me some advice that will help me get this 15 pounds off almost immediately? I dont care if that advice is bad long term advice because I only care about short term immediate results, not the long haul. Thanks in advance. Well not really thanks because I will either reject or disagree with all of your advice.I'll race ya to 200 pounds. 215 now.................and.....................go.........................Got bored and ran 8 more tonite followed by a 2 mile walk. 57 miles in 5 days including an of day. Probably will take tomorrow off, hunt on Friday, and race on Saturday.47 miles over the last 5 days. About 10 of that speed walking. Legs are a little sluggish, but no major aches or pains. Flirting with dropping below 210 pounds.![]()
and the same to those giving serious advice.
Unless...I took this wrong and you were actually wanting advice and not just mocking the ghost.
Funny thing is now that we know they were serious replies it kind of makes the point even funnier(at least to me). Even BS advice requests in this thread are met with solid advice.
Congrats!25:25!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
About 30 seconds ahead of my goal for may 17th. Might be setting a new goal for that day.
x was good for 3rd in her AG.  (She also benefited from faster runners not being able to double-dip in the AG results; she was really 5th but we always take AG awards however we can come by them).There is always just the mental part too. If you want another PR bad enough, sometimes you can force yourself to go an extra few seconds a mile faster.Actually, I PRed in the 5K a few weeks ago (21:49). Plugging that result into McMillan gives me a projected 1:41:01 half, which is pretty exactly where I am. In other words, I don't think I can improve my HM time much simply by adding endurance. It's going to take an improvement in raw speed, which is tougher.
Congratulations! It's tough to push through when problems crop up at the end of a race -- we've all been there. Nice job toughing it out. I'm a little jealous of you being able to run Indy. I wasn't a runner when I lived in the area; I would love to have an event like that nearby.Get ready for a laugh...Indy Mini Marathon 13.1 miles.
Time: 3:59
Winning time: :51
I was good through 10 but started cramping in my legs and feet terribly. Pushed 299 lbs through the finish line. Proud as it was a commitment to myself to finish in his honor as he took his first deployment to the Middle East just yesterday. Thinking of him helped.
I now have a baseline.
Thanks man! I'm proud. While my son is deployed I the Middle East I have committed to giving up processed sugar.Congratulations! It's tough to push through when problems crop up at the end of a race --Get ready for a laugh...Indy Mini Marathon 13.1
miles.
Time: 3:59
Winning time: :51
I was good through 10 but started cramping in my legs and feet terribly. Pushed 299 lbs through the finish line. Proud as it was a
commitment to myself to finish in his honor as he took his first deployment to the Middle East just yesterday. Thinking of him helped.
I now have a baseline.
we've all been there. Nice job toughing it out. I'm a little jealous of you being able to run Indy. I wasn't a runner when I lived in the area; I would love to have an event like that nearby.
Now that you've got a baseline set, what are your future goals?
Great job!Get ready for a laugh...Indy Mini Marathon 13.1 miles.
Time: 3:59
Winning time: :51
I was good through 10 but started cramping in my legs and feet terribly. Pushed 299 lbs through the finish line. Proud as it was a commitment to myself to finish in his honor as he took his first deployment to the Middle East just yesterday. Thinking of him helped.
I now have a baseline.
Congrats!pizzatyme said:Get ready for a laugh...Indy Mini Marathon 13.1 miles.
Time: 3:59
Winning time: :51
I was good through 10 but started cramping in my legs and feet terribly. Pushed 299 lbs through the finish line. Proud as it was a commitment to myself to finish in his honor as he took his first deployment to the Middle East just yesterday. Thinking of him helped.
I now have a baseline.
x would 3:55/mile and a WR by about 7 minutes.Sounds about right. That is Meb class speed (i.e. bloody fast).Sand, yeah, I guess so. Got faulty info. Winning time was 1:01:53.
He beat the old record by 1 second for the event.
Effing teenagers.BassNBrew said:Son of Bass took first place overall in the 5k today and set a pr on a hilly course.
run angrySome great results today! 2 PR's and a half marathon cherry pop! I might just be drunk enough to think I can PR tomorrow in the 5K too! (alsonotreally)
Nice work Ivan.IvanKaramazov said:I absolutely wrecked my half. My previous PR was 1:43:02. My new PR is 1:41:09.
This our town's local marathon / half-marathon. I've run the half a bunch of times and have the course completely memorized. Very good conditions for the 7:00 am start -- about 40 with light winds (8-10 mph depending on which forecasting site you believed). The HM course is pretty sheltered so that level of wind is negligible. It was also overcast the whole way, which was nice. I ended up running almost the entire course with half a dozen 20-somethings (three M, three F), some of whom knew each other. One guy pulled away from all of us around mile 10, and I pulled away from the rest about a mile later. Technically one was doing the full, so we lost her at the split between miles 10 and 11.
I came into this planning the beloved 5/5/5 approach, so I'll break out my splits that way.
Miles 1-5: 7:38, 7:38, 7:49, 7:33, 7:41. I went out "fast but comfortable." Several years ago I managed to break myself of the habit of starting too conservative and then finishing with a bunch of gas sloshing around in the tank. Covering 13.1 miles is a non-issue, like it's a non-factor for most of you guys, so I want to make sure I'm racing, not just running. Mile 3 was a little slow in part because it features a small amount of off-road running and a couple of choke points. You can see that I pushed a little on mile 4 to make up that time. Honestly, I knew somewhere between miles 3 and 4 that I was going to crush my PR.
Miles 6-10: 7:43, 7:38, 7:42, 7:43, 7:47. At the halfway mark, I was on pace for 1:40:30. I knew it was extremely unlikely that I would be able to maintain that pace, and I'm okay with a mild positive split. The slower splits here are a combination of me pushing up against my lactate threshold and a deliberate decision to back off very slightly. Mile 10 is an outlier, featuring a very steep hill. It's only 0.2 from bottom to top, but it's a tough incline and also hard to descend safely. Every year I willingly give up some time on this rather than attacking it and leaving myself depleted for the final stretch. In other words, that 7:47 is completely fine, normal, and acceptable for that particular mile.
Last 5K: 7:35 (dropping the hammer), 7:41 (picking the hammer back up), 7:41. Last 0.19 (Garmin): 7:20 pace. In my training leading up to this race, I had been doing my long tempo runs at about a 7:35 pace. I tried to pick up the pace during this last stretch, but it just wasn't there. If I can run 13.1 miles at this pace, obviously my "true" LT pace is probably a little faster than I thought it was, but there's no question that spending this long at or near my LT threshold was holding me back at this point. Not fading, but no real capacity to mount a surge either. I would have had to slow down if this had been a 15 mile race instead of a 13.1 mile race.
Official results: 1:41:09, 7:43 pace (7:40 Garmin pace)
26/355 overall
3/19 M 40-44. I actually got credit for 2nd in my AG because the first place guy was 3rd overall and 1st in Masters.
This particular result may end up being a lifetime best since I'm not getting any younger, but sub-1:40 is only 69 seconds away. Long endurance isn't the issue -- I'm pretty sure LT is my binding constraint at this distance now. Gotta give it a shot though, either this fall or next spring.
Mrs. K ran this morning as well. Her 1:51x was good for 3rd in her AG. (She also benefited from faster runners not being able to double-dip in the AG results; she was really 5th but we always take AG awards however we can come by them).
 NICE!!3:28
26.2 minutes faster than the trail in March. 14 minutes faster than my previous PR
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Sweet. Great job -- that's a huge PR.3:28
26.2 minutes faster than the trail in March. 14 minutes faster than my previous PR
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Awesome!!IvanKaramazov said:I absolutely wrecked my half. My previous PR was 1:43:02. My new PR is 1:41:09.
This our town's local marathon / half-marathon. I've run the half a bunch of times and have the course completely memorized. Very good conditions for the 7:00 am start -- about 40 with light winds (8-10 mph depending on which forecasting site you believed). The HM course is pretty sheltered so that level of wind is negligible. It was also overcast the whole way, which was nice. I ended up running almost the entire course with half a dozen 20-somethings (three M, three F), some of whom knew each other. One guy pulled away from all of us around mile 10, and I pulled away from the rest about a mile later. Technically one was doing the full, so we lost her at the split between miles 10 and 11.
I came into this planning the beloved 5/5/5 approach, so I'll break out my splits that way.
Miles 1-5: 7:38, 7:38, 7:49, 7:33, 7:41. I went out "fast but comfortable." Several years ago I managed to break myself of the habit of starting too conservative and then finishing with a bunch of gas sloshing around in the tank. Covering 13.1 miles is a non-issue, like it's a non-factor for most of you guys, so I want to make sure I'm racing, not just running. Mile 3 was a little slow in part because it features a small amount of off-road running and a couple of choke points. You can see that I pushed a little on mile 4 to make up that time. Honestly, I knew somewhere between miles 3 and 4 that I was going to crush my PR.
Miles 6-10: 7:43, 7:38, 7:42, 7:43, 7:47. At the halfway mark, I was on pace for 1:40:30. I knew it was extremely unlikely that I would be able to maintain that pace, and I'm okay with a mild positive split. The slower splits here are a combination of me pushing up against my lactate threshold and a deliberate decision to back off very slightly. Mile 10 is an outlier, featuring a very steep hill. It's only 0.2 from bottom to top, but it's a tough incline and also hard to descend safely. Every year I willingly give up some time on this rather than attacking it and leaving myself depleted for the final stretch. In other words, that 7:47 is completely fine, normal, and acceptable for that particular mile.
Last 5K: 7:35 (dropping the hammer), 7:41 (picking the hammer back up), 7:41. Last 0.19 (Garmin): 7:20 pace. In my training leading up to this race, I had been doing my long tempo runs at about a 7:35 pace. I tried to pick up the pace during this last stretch, but it just wasn't there. If I can run 13.1 miles at this pace, obviously my "true" LT pace is probably a little faster than I thought it was, but there's no question that spending this long at or near my LT threshold was holding me back at this point. Not fading, but no real capacity to mount a surge either. I would have had to slow down if this had been a 15 mile race instead of a 13.1 mile race.
Official results: 1:41:09, 7:43 pace (7:40 Garmin pace)
26/355 overall
3/19 M 40-44. I actually got credit for 2nd in my AG because the first place guy was 3rd overall and 1st in Masters.
This particular result may end up being a lifetime best since I'm not getting any younger, but sub-1:40 is only 69 seconds away. Long endurance isn't the issue -- I'm pretty sure LT is my binding constraint at this distance now. Gotta give it a shot though, either this fall or next spring.
Mrs. K ran this morning as well. Her 1:51x was good for 3rd in her AG. (She also benefited from faster runners not being able to double-dip in the AG results; she was really 5th but we always take AG awards however we can come by them).
Congratulations on finishing!!pizzatyme said:Thanks man! I'm proud.While my son is deployed I the Middle East I have committed to giving up processed sugar.IvanKaramazov said:Congratulations! It's tough to push through when problems crop up at the end of a race --pizzatyme said:Get ready for a laugh...Indy Mini Marathon 13.1
miles.
Time: 3:59
Winning time: :51
I was good through 10 but started cramping in my legs and feet terribly. Pushed 299 lbs through the finish line. Proud as it was a
commitment to myself to finish in his honor as he took his first deployment to the Middle East just yesterday. Thinking of him helped.
I now have a baseline.
we've all been there. Nice job toughing it out. I'm a little jealous of you being able to run Indy. I wasn't a runner when I lived in the area; I would love to have an event like that nearby.
Now that you've got a baseline set, what are your future goals?
I plan to lose 50 lbs this year. Continue walking, biking, and running. Next year, I'd like to trim the time to under 3 hours.
Thanks again.
Huge.3:28
26.2 minutes faster than the trail in March. 14 minutes faster than my previous PR
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Fire up! As to the taper, you might keep it to 10, 5, and 2 miles this week. Maybe add a few accelerations on the 2 miler just to stretch out the legs. Then show some self-control and eat/drink smart over the two days before the race.Great work this weekend everyone. Welcome pizzatyme. Stick around and listen to these guys, they know their stuff and are super cool when it comes to answering questions that have been asked 100's of times by noobs like myself.
As for me, I have the Starved Rock HM next weekend. After my first 100 mile month in April, a nasty bug went through my house and kind of derailed my training a bit. Going out today for a 10+miler and will probably get a couple more 5-6 mile runs in before taking a couple days off Thursday and Friday. That sound like a good "taper"?
Fixed it for you.Fire up! As to the taper, you might keep it to 10, 5, and 2 miles this week. Maybe add a few accelerations on the 2 miler just to stretch out theGreat work this weekend everyone. Welcome pizzatyme. Stick around and listen to these guys, they know their stuff and are super cool when it comes to answering questions that have been asked 100's of times by noobs like myself.
As for me, I have the Starved Rock HM next weekend. After my first 100 mile month in April, a nasty bug went through my house and kind of derailed my training a bit. Going out today for a 10+miler and will probably get a couple more 5-6 mile runs in before taking a couple days off Thursday and Friday. That sound like a good "taper"?legspenis. Then show some self-control and eat/drink smart over the two days before the race.