Pretty kick ###.He's in. 3:29:00.
So proud of him for getting out there and getting that done. Such a BMF!
I couldn't do it, that's for damn sure.That HR for most of the race.
No idea how he held that for so long. That's an epic, epic performance.
Interesting coincidence: I was channel flipping maybe two nights ago and came across an interview with him ...about his breathing techniques and his ice water immersions. I can't say that I was sold, but I was definitely intrigued.2021 Treasure Coast Marathon Race Report
Woke up at 3:43 am, did my morning business and relaxed for a few minutes. I went through three rounds of my Wim Hof breathing exercises to calm my nerves. Mission accomplished. I was out the door at 5:15 and my HR was back down in the 40s.
So badass. Reading this and the rest of the RR makes me more of your effort than if you had PR'd. You were ready to quit, and dug deeper and found the last few drops in the tank. So awesome.Then I remember the Goggins thing about only being at 40%, so I say #### it. Just keep going until you stop. What's the worst that can happen? You pass out? You die? I'm having this conversation with myself in my head. So we come to an agreement that I’ll just keep going until I can't anymore. And when that point comes, you're going to walk it in because you'll never be able to live with yourself if you quit. Mile 22 done at the bottom of the bridge. Next up, another ####### bridge! Oh well, clear this, and you're home free.
Hey man, get your own boyfriend.I want to thank all of you for being awesome. I can't say enough how much this place has changed my life. Special shoutout to @gianmarco. I know we all joke in here, but he is one hell of a human being. We have talked throughout my entire journey, every step of the way. Really hard to find amazing people, and we have so many in this one little group. Thanks again everyone. One day I will figure this marathon thing out.
This is beautiful, man. Gave me chills to read this....and even as I type this up....Then I remember the Goggins thing about only being at 40%, so I say #### it. Just keep going until you stop. What's the worst that can happen? You pass out? You die? I'm having this conversation with myself in my head. So we come to an agreement that I’ll just keep going until I can't anymore. And when that point comes, you're going to walk it in because you'll never be able to live with yourself if you quit. Mile 22 done at the bottom of the bridge. Next up, another ####### bridge! Oh well, clear this, and you're home free.
For the people that have hit the wall in a marathon, you know how miserable this is. You literally count every step and wonder where tf the next mile marker is. I do this until marker 26. I get to mile 26, put my song on and start working. I know the course is long, but I don't care anymore. I'm finishing this thing off.
The last .5. I start to think how far I've come since last year, and tell myself to remember this feeling. The feeling of agonizing pain, the feeling that every part of my being said to quit, the feeling that I never stopped to walk the entire time, the feeling of accomplishment.
Was nothing la-di-da about that. I'm going to be feeling this one for quite some time.Too early for la-di-da had to make do with a 3:29 with off training and not feeling right in a windstorm during the race.
Will rest tomorrow and try a 10ish run on Sunday...pace and distance by feel.
Was nothing la-di-da about that. I'm going to be feeling this one for quite some time.
Did you reach for a bagel from your sofa?The trail course kind of beat me up or something. Hips/ butt hurts a little but that's kind of normal lately. But my mid back aches something fierce. Feels like I was punched repeatedly. Taking a deep breath is not particularly fun.
I think I have an idea, but I'm wondering if there's more to the story. Only so much you glean from strava data alone. But now that we're on the other side of the race I'm wondering if our hero is interested in unpacking where things went wrong. Regardless, a lot of positives to takeaway from the last 3 months, especially considering where things stood a year plus ago.@JShare87
Great report! I don't understand why your fitness oddly took a hit late in training but hopefully your tremendous perseverance will be a powerful memory to recall on when needed for many years from now. Congrats on the race!
Weights/PT days today. The two bolded above are part of my normal routine, plus some bicep curls, and glute kick backs.3x per week (Mon, Wed, Fri or Sat)
Pick one - (standing on tip toes or alternating single leg) bicep curls, shoulder press, or overhead tricep extension
Pick one - single leg romanian dead lift, reverse lunges, or banded side steps (90 seconds per set)
Pick one - push ups or dips (don't choose dips on overhead tri day)
Pick one - russian speed lunges or kettlebell swings
Pick one - active side planks + boats w/scissor kicks, or medicine ball oblique twists + active regular planks
Pick one - medicine ball squat-and-throw or walking lunges
Pick one - bent over rows, lateral raises, or kettlebell snatch (not on swing day)
Pick one - chest fly (not on push up day) or lawnmowers
Pick one - calf extensions or hamstring curls w/trx stability ball
Pick one - single leg bridges or side lunges
You won't be doing 'em around other people, so there's no harm doing 'em on your knees.Weights/PT days today. The two bolded above are part of my normal routine, plus some bicep curls, and glute kick backs.
Will target next weights/PT day for more of the above. Except the pushups.
Thanks for this!
beastly!You guys are the best. Really appreciate the well-wishes and comments.
2021 Treasure Coast Marathon Race Report
Again, really low expectations for this race and no real plan going in. I just planned to ease into the first few miles and relax. Weather wasn't the worst, but the wind was 15+ sustained from the north with gusts over 20. I hate running in the wind and it did make it feel pretty cold out. I saw @tri-man 47 joke about the gloves. In hindsight, I probably should of wore a pair.
Woke up at 3:43 am, did my morning business and relaxed for a few minutes. I went through three rounds of my Wim Hof breathing exercises to calm my nerves. Mission accomplished. I was out the door at 5:15 and my HR was back down in the 40s.
I arrived at the race location around 5:40. Listened to some motivational videos from Goggins (@gruecd) and took one quote from him to store for later. Something about how our mind protects us from pain. When your mind wants to quit, your threshold is only around 40%, so I reminded myself of this quite often throughout the race.
I get to the line at 5:57, do one round of breathing to calm down again. 6:00 am hits, and we’re off.....
Miles 1-3: I checked my pace and HR once during this stretch. I think right before I finished mile one. HR was around 155 and pace was slow (7:40).
Miles 4-8: At this early in the race, I know it's going to be a brutal race. I was out of breath, legs were weak, and working way too hard. I popped a gel at mile 6. I settled in behind a girl for a few miles.
Miles 9-12: This stretch was pretty tough. We break out into the open and really feel the wind. Over a huge bridge, then under it, then around. Lots of twists and turns.
Miles 12-16.5: My wife was waiting for me at mile 12 with my special bottle and another gel. I drink my bottle and store the gel in my pocket for mile 18. At mile 12.5, we head directly into the teeth of the wind. Runners are dropping like flies at this point. I am working wayyyy too hard during this stretch. I just kept saying, get through this, and the wind will take you back through miles 17-21.
Miles 17-21: My form falls completely apart at this point in the race. I can't think straight, and the wind is my only saving grace. It carried me through this 4-mile stretch. I can't even fathom taking my gel at this point. I've completely red-lined my body, and I need to stop.
Miles 22-26: This stretch may have been the toughest stretch of running I've ever been through. The start of mile 22 is up a huge bridge with a nasty cross-wind/head-wind. I am in the bicycle lane, and I am close to passing out with every step. The wind is pushing me into traffic to the point where I almost jumped the concrete rail to avoid being run over. I decide to throw in the towel and call my wife from my Apple Watch to pick me up.
Then I remember the Goggins thing about only being at 40%, so I say #### it. Just keep going until you stop. What's the worst that can happen? You pass out? You die? I'm having this conversation with myself in my head. So we come to an agreement that I’ll just keep going until I can't anymore. And when that point comes, you're going to walk it in because you'll never be able to live with yourself if you quit. Mile 22 done at the bottom of the bridge. Next up, another ####### bridge! Oh well, clear this, and you're home free.
For the people that have hit the wall in a marathon, you know how miserable this is. You literally count every step and wonder where tf the next mile marker is. I do this until marker 26. I get to mile 26, put my song on and start working. I know the course is long, but I don't care anymore. I'm finishing this thing off.
The last .5. I start to think how far I've come since last year, and tell myself to remember this feeling. The feeling of agonizing pain, the feeling that every part of my being said to quit, the feeling that I never stopped to walk the entire time, the feeling of accomplishment.
I finish as strong as I can. I'm wobbling at this point. My wife is waiting at the line for me, and I finished the marathon. Goal C accomplished. I drove myself home and took a 20-minute ice bath, followed by a 20-minute hot bath.
I want to thank all of you for being awesome. I can't say enough how much this place has changed my life. Special shoutout to @gianmarco. I know we all joke in here, but he is one hell of a human being. We have talked throughout my entire journey, every step of the way. Really hard to find amazing people, and we have so many in this one little group. Thanks again everyone. One day I will figure this marathon thing out.
MAC_32 said:You won't be doing 'em around other people, so there's no harm doing 'em on your knees.
I didn't give this enough love this weekend - we were out of town at a hockey tournament and trying to type up a response on a phone is a pain in the ### for me.The Iguana said:been a long time since I have done one of these and it didn't exactly feel like a BMF performance but I did have fun and it did kind of kick my butt and these are kind of fun to type up. I'll try to keep it brief...
DINO Series 15K - Mounds State Park
Wasn't exactly feeling it when I got up this morning but had a great constitutional, as one grandparent used to call it, had my stuff together and was out the door by a about 6:45 am for the 50 minute drive +/-. It was a brisk 26* this morning +/- with projected ending temperature in the low 30s. Got to the site just in time as the line at the gate of the state park was rather long shortly after I arrived. Found a nice parking spot, got checked in, had a 2nd movement and headed back to the car to shed some clothing. I wanted to man up and go shorts and a sleeveless shirt but it really was brisk out there and I wasn't quite up for it so I left my thin long sleeve base layer shirt on with my shorts and sleeveless shirt. Had a brief warm up and chatted with a guy I work with and a friend that had introduced me to this series/group that puts on trail races and then it was time for the start...
Mile 1 - 9:30, HR 142 (gap 9:10)
It was actually a bit of a crowded start but the first half mile is fairly open, flat and straight to help spread things out a little. But the next half mile heads off into the woods with twists and turns as well as some relatively gentle up and down rolling trails. It was still congested enough to be a bit of a pain but no too bad. I was a little sad to see 9:30 when my watch buzzed but all things considered it wasn't bad.
Mile 2 - 8:54, HR 154 (gap 8:39); Mile 3 - 9:35, 158 (9:09)
Mile 2 was a nice wide area with a good size downhill to start that could be cruised followed by nice flat section along the river. I was feeling pretty good here until the very end of it... The end of mile 2 and beginning of mile 3 is a huge hill with a couple of switchbacks that we would get to run 3 times. Mile 3 continued to be up and adown a bit - not huge hills but what was there was fairly steep/stout.
Mile 4 - 9:02, 153 (8:57)
Kind of my last great hurrah. It was a nice wide, flat area that ended the first lap and started the 2nd. The end of this mile is right at the start of the winding trail in the woods.
Mile 5 - 9:47, 158 (9:40); Mile 6, 9:49, 153 (9:14)
Mile 5 was back to the winding, rolling trail that ended with the nice downhill to the river. Mile 6 was along the river with the crazy switchback hill climb and back past the finish. The hill climb here took a bite out of me, IMO. Fun times but man do I need to do something other than all the flat roads around my house to be ready to tackle something like that hill.
Mile 7 - 9:58, 151 (9:28); Mile 8 10:01, 154 (9:53)
Mile 7 had some hills but the ended on the nice flat, wide area back toward the start. It basically completed the 2nd full lap and all that was left was 1 half lap to go. My heart rate coming back down here is probably proof that I wasn't pushing as hard as I had been and was hurting a bit. I had been running with a couple guys before but they had faded and I was pretty much all alone at this point. Mile 8 was roughly mile 1 all over again but I obviously did not have the same focus or strength. I was kind of in "just hang on mode".
Mile 9 - 9:13, 164 (9:20); Last .39 - 11:06 pace, 155 (9:31)
Mile 9 is most smooth with the big down hill and along the river. I tried to muster all I had and just roll as quick as possible. I had been doing some math for the last couple miles and knew that 1:30 was in the mix but going to be tough. I also knew I had to climb those switchbacks 1 more time and they were going to kick my ### so I tried to use what push I had left here where it was flat and easy running. Most of the last .4 on my watch was the switchback hill that I tried to power hike as fast as I could followed by whatever I had left to roll into the finish.
Official time - 1:30:09, 94/203 total, 11/19 AG
Again, didn't exactly feel totally BMFish but it was a decent effort. Fun park and beautiful run but kicked my butt for sure. Strava says only 509 feet of elevation gain but I only had 535 feet of elevation the whole month of February and 1,211 feet in January. As a matter of fact, I had 21% of my total elevation gain for the year happen today. As I said, I need to work on that.
I am NOT running to a 2,500mi goal this year.Shocking news, but I see @Juxtatarot is the first of our group to reach 500 miles this year. @pbm107, @Zasada, and @gruecd ready to cross the threshold later this week.
You need a watch that can show HR and connect to a computer to understand.Can somebody translate this Watch-talk for me
That high HR was an error right? That's the problem with all this heart rate analysis features. If the HR monitor isn't very good (and most of these built in wrist ones aren't) then all these formulas get messed up.Had a step back week last week with a sore back but Garmin must have thought it was intentional bc it gave me a Peaking for the first time I’ve ever noticed. Anyway that was nice of them. So yesterday I run and get a high HR that locked in and a -13 score. And recommended 55 hour recovery. So remember, those numbers are just like some robots opinion, man.
And we’re back on the first page.
Yep it was a bad reading but it came from a wahoo strap which I use like 90% of the time and sometimes it starts high and kicks in normal after a mile but did not yesterday. Thought it was good example of how the HR makes a lot of the algorithm output directional at best and funked on occasion.That high HR was an error right? That's the problem with all this heart rate analysis features. If the HR monitor isn't very good (and most of these built in wrist ones aren't) then all these formulas get messed up.
My Garmin says mine is 45 and in the top 25% for my age and gender.FWIW, my Garmin showed a VO2 of 53 after a recovery run today. Who knows how precise that is ...but comparative to readings over the past year, I don't recall seeing a reading that high before. Yeah, me?
Maybe I could do a sub-20 5K (current unofficial PR is 20:22), but there's NFW I could do sub-40 10K. I had to burn everything I had to get sub-45 for the FBG virtual 10K.Some of you are obvious...but who here has run a sub 40 10k? I'm curious if my anecdotal point holds.
Its kind that you thought of me, but I'm not in this stratosphere. Everything went right and I ran a 19:16 5K a few years back. There is no way I could run a 40 min 10K. Maybe sub 41, but that 19:16 took everything out of me. And unfortunately, I'm not getting any faster as I age.Maybe I could do a sub-20 5K (current unofficial PR is 20:22), but there's NFW I could do sub-40 10K. I had to burn everything I had to get sub-45 for the FBG virtual 10K.
I think there are a half-dozen #BMFs in here who either: A) Have already done it (@gruecd, @MAC_32, @pbm107, @Juxtatarot) ; or B) Have the talent to do it (@SteelCurtain, @JShare87) with some focused training.
The latter two might have even done it pre-Strava. I'm just going by what's listed on their profiles.
Apologies if I'm missing any #BMFs. Notebook is weak with this one.
If it is timed by a sun dial watch OR not on Strava, it doesn't count.I looked back and found a 39:10 10K ...but that was thirty years ago. Pre-Strava? Pfft. That was pre-internet.
All of his training pre-Strava is in notebooks.If it is timed by a sun dial watch OR not on Strava, it doesn't count.
Serious question - do you have all your races in a running diary or something? Where did you go to "look back"?
Sub 40 10K is a goal I've been chasing a while. 40:32 is my best. 18:52 for a 5K.Maybe I could do a sub-20 5K (current unofficial PR is 20:22), but there's NFW I could do sub-40 10K. I had to burn everything I had to get sub-45 for the FBG virtual 10K.
I think there are a half-dozen #BMFs in here who either: A) Have already done it (@gruecd, @MAC_32, @pbm107, @Juxtatarot) ; or B) Have the talent to do it (@SteelCurtain, @JShare87) with some focused training.
The latter two might have even done it pre-Strava. I'm just going by what's listed on their profiles.
Apologies if I'm missing any #BMFs. Notebook is weak with this one.
Thanks for checking in. I've been pretty messed up since Sunday. Wasn't able to eat or drink anything all day Sunday. Monday I had some plain potato chips and water. Tuesday I was able to get down some more, and yesterday I was back to normal. I actually had to leave work on Tuesday because I couldn't get through the day. I got my first Covid shot Thursday before my run, so I'm not sure if that is why I'm feeling bad. I can finally walk without limping today, so I may do a mile or two after work.@JShare87 checking in to see how you're feeling a few days removed from that hell-fest.
Did my first speed work post back-bagel. The rest has done wonders for my legs, who want to let er rip. The back is fine although not 100% loose; I'm trying to hold off a bit to not exacerbate things. 1/4m intervals- that combo had me break 6min/mile for the first time in ages... If only for moments.
Apparently strava PRed my 5k (still nowhere near 20). The whole run was just south of 10k including wu/cd...which made me think of my sub 40 PR for that. That #### is hard! Honestly can't imagine hitting that anytime soon, if ever again.
That made me remember the whole "anybody can do a sub-40" trolling that originally pulled me into this thread...cripes...15 years ago!!? I made the point that a lot of my supremely fit IM friends couldn't do it...fast twitch or whatever. Fitness and desire aren't the bottom line.
And that made me think of you amazing lot.
Some of you are obvious...but who here has run a sub 40 10k? I'm curious if my anecdotal point holds.
You have to be kidding me! That's some pretty bad timing right there. I know what my wife felt like the couple days after getting hers. That wasn't really a wise move before going out to bust off a marathon.I got my first Covid shot Thursday before my run, so I'm not sure if that is why I'm feeling bad.