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Ran a 10k - Official Thread (5 Viewers)

Good luck, @Steel Curtain!  FWIW I really enjoy running on trails much more than streets.  Trails force you to always be checking your footing and actively monitoring your path.  With street running I sometimes get exhausted by the monotony/repetition. 

On the hills, purposeful and steady wins the race.  On my big climbs I never try to run less-steep sections rather I use them for recovery from the prior/upcoming steep sections.  At least for me, running a slight uphill is a terrible energy "value" (extra energy consumed vs time gained).  I like to save the energy to keep an aggressive pace for power-hiking the more steep sections.

@SFBayDuck is the real expert here so any advice he has would definitely override mine. 

 
SteelCurtain said:
Welp.  Here it is.  I'm at my hotel.  Stopped by the small expo.  Got my bib #975.

The course had 6-8" of snow and it hasn't melted from what I can see.  It will be an interesting first trail race for me.  Goal is to be smart on the first 16 miles where it can be hilly and technical.  Once I'm upright after that stretch, it will be 26 miles on a towpath.  Not technical and I can hopefully pick up the pace a bit but I've heard it can get pretty muddy.  Then the final stretch (8 miles) in on some rolling hills. 

I don't have a time goal.  I'm going to just be smart.  I'll be honest, I'm nervous about this one.  Dreading it sort of.  Hopefully once I get there, get in a groove, and zone out, I'll have fun.  I'll post tracking info early tomorrow AM.

Time to go eat some pasta!
 
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Quit being a Sally and just run 50 miles. This is like a Tuesday run after all of your training.  good luck GB!!!

 
SteelCurtain said:
Welp.  Here it is.  I'm at my hotel.  Stopped by the small expo.  Got my bib #975.

The course had 6-8" of snow and it hasn't melted from what I can see.  It will be an interesting first trail race for me.  Goal is to be smart on the first 16 miles where it can be hilly and technical.  Once I'm upright after that stretch, it will be 26 miles on a towpath.  Not technical and I can hopefully pick up the pace a bit but I've heard it can get pretty muddy.  Then the final stretch (8 miles) in on some rolling hills. 

I don't have a time goal.  I'm going to just be smart.  I'll be honest, I'm nervous about this one.  Dreading it sort of.  Hopefully once I get there, get in a groove, and zone out, I'll have fun.  I'll post tracking info early tomorrow AM.

Time to go eat some pasta!
 
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Then you’re doing it right. I’ve toed the line at a dozen races 50M and up, and I was as nervous and scared about the most recent one as I was for my first back in 2013. 

#GetSome

 
bushdocda said:
What do you want in terms of features and are you using anything now?  Quick thoughts on parsing the offerings might be:

-Music yes/no

-wrist HR or would you sync a HR straps or don’t care about Hr

-mega battery life like in the crazy Garmins/suuntos that ultra and iron people use

-Touchscreen or buttons

-brand - lots to choose from and options from each these days

-application and integration

-what you want to spend $

I have been pleased with Garmin 235 and covet a fenix5.  I don’t look much at the other brands to know what they have or what is new.  Saw Garmin has a music holder one now that Id consider against a fenix when I’m ready.  And I probably should get a HR strap for the amount of times my wrist reading takes a ####. 
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After doing a bunch of reading, etc, I'm leaning toward the Garmin vivoactive3 with music. 

Care some about hr. Can link to a strap if I want but not there now and the built in functionality will be enough for me, I think. 

Music isn't a must for me but having the option is nice. 

There's a few things it doesn't do that I don't need but might want later, etc but also being a hack golfer, the golf stuff built in kind of pushed it over the top of several other options. 

Kind of wish it had more swim features but it does laps, which is all I really need. 

 
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The Iguana said:
Also have a 5k in the morning. Looking forward to trying to see what I can do. 
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Godspeed!

We have a 5k, but it's our elementary school's track team running it. I'll run with my son. Looking forward to seeing where he's really at now. Last year he ran 26:30. He hasn't ran as consistently this year so I'm having doubts whether he will set a PR, but it will be a good assessment.

 
-OZ- said:
Godspeed!

We have a 5k, but it's our elementary school's track team running it. I'll run with my son. Looking forward to seeing where he's really at now. Last year he ran 26:30. He hasn't ran as consistently this year so I'm having doubts whether he will set a PR, but it will be a good assessment.
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That sounds like fun. Bring him home in 26:00.  :thumbup:

 
pbm107 said:
He’s at mile 15 in 14:49/mile, I am sure conditions must be a mess from the snow.
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Mile 15 in 3:42.  If it’s sloppy it’s always worse for those in the mid and back of the pack as everyone in front of them just chews up the course even more  

Leader Zach Miller is through mile 27 in 3:04:46!  Doesn’t look like mile 15.5 checkpoint registered for any of the front guys, so it’ll be mile 27 before we get an update on our boy again. 

 
The Iguana said:
Also have a 5k in the morning. Looking forward to trying to see what I can do. 
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27:28... 8:52 pace. A little disappointed cause it was a nice flat course but a little "chunky" in places. Was the first run in a quite a while for me that wasn't on pavement. Used to always prefer grass/ trail but it does slow you down a little. 

Good measuring stick to see where I am but a lot of work to do - both physical and mental. Feel confident I could have gone faster but the mind didn't quite push as hard as it could. Fun times, however, and looking forward to the next run. 

 
SFBayDuck said:
Mile 15 in 3:42.  If it’s sloppy it’s always worse for those in the mid and back of the pack as everyone in front of them just chews up the course even more  

Leader Zach Miller is through mile 27 in 3:04:46!  Doesn’t look like mile 15.5 checkpoint registered for any of the front guys, so it’ll be mile 27 before we get an update on our boy again. 
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Wow, Jared Hazen beat Zach by almost 6 minutes, finishing in a time of 5:34:21.  I believe he was injured after 2nd place finishes at Lake Sonoma and Way Too Cool this Spring, so glad  he's back.  Dude is just 23 but has been running ultras since he was 17, including a 14th place finish at WS100 as a 19 year old in '14.  

As for our boy @SteelCurtain, he's through mile 27.1 in 5:45:27, picking up the pace now and eating up that canal towpath with what looks like a 9:39 pace for that last 11.6 mile section.  

 
Ocram said:
That sounds like fun. Bring him home in 26:00.  :thumbup:
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27:30, fastest on his team and 2nd overall in his AG.  

More importantly, he was happy afterwards. Struggled a bit but he has to learn that even if your legs "really hurt, I'm gonna die!!!", You can push. Decent pace throughout, kicked good at the end.  Pretty much exactly what I wanted him to get from this race. 

Now to keep him motivated through the year. 

We tried a new warmup technique, just played catch for half an hour before the race.  

 
SFBayDuck said:
Wow, Jared Hazen beat Zach by almost 6 minutes, finishing in a time of 5:34:21.  I believe he was injured after 2nd place finishes at Lake Sonoma and Way Too Cool this Spring, so glad  he's back.  Dude is just 23 but has been running ultras since he was 17, including a 14th place finish at WS100 as a 19 year old in '14.  

As for our boy @SteelCurtain, he's through mile 27.1 in 5:45:27, picking up the pace now and eating up that canal towpath with what looks like a 9:39 pace for that last 11.6 mile section.  
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Go steel go!

 
Had a real slog on Moose Mountain today.  This is what it was like for the summit.  Ugh.

I was hoping to run some of the trail but the snow was too deep and my legs were shot ploughing through drifts above the treeline.

Yay, Canadian Rockies in November.   :rant:

 
Guys....

Thanks for all your support.  Absolute crazy experience in the first 16 miles. 

After that, i went to work.  Grinded pretty hard the last 15 miles to get under 10.  

I’ll get a RR report done in the next couple days.  

Special thanks to @SFBayDuck for recommending this race.  It’s perfect for an ultra first timer.  I have more respect for Duck, @SayWhat?, @BassNBrew, and all you others who regularly do 50+ mile runs. 

Now its a month long break before Boston training starts in earnest.  

 
SteelCurtain said:
Guys....

Thanks for all your support.  Absolute crazy experience in the first 16 miles. 

After that, i went to work.  Grinded pretty hard the last 15 miles to get under 10.  

I’ll get a RR report done in the next couple days.  

Special thanks to @SFBayDuck for recommending this race.  It’s perfect for an ultra first timer.  I have more respect for Duck, @SayWhat?, @BassNBrew, and all you others who regularly do 50+ mile runs. 

Now its a month long break before Boston training starts in earnest.  
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You really are a machine.

 
SteelCurtain said:
Guys....

Thanks for all your support.  Absolute crazy experience in the first 16 miles. 

After that, i went to work.  Grinded pretty hard the last 15 miles to get under 10.  

I’ll get a RR report done in the next couple days.  

Special thanks to @SFBayDuck for recommending this race.  It’s perfect for an ultra first timer.  I have more respect for Duck, @SayWhat?, @BassNBrew, and all you others who regularly do 50+ mile runs. 

Now its a month long break before Boston training starts in earnest.  
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:tebow:

Congrats!!!  I’ve said it many times before, but your ability to grind is phenomenal. I’m not surprised at all. 

 
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OK, guys, need your thoughts/advice again.

So coming-off my HM high, I'm seriously considering giving 42.2 a try.  I have put the training in for the HM and feel like I have an opportunity to "extend" said training to a full marathon, rather than scaling-down and potentially having to scale-up again later next year.

While the winter weather isn't all that conducive to training, it is a time of year when I do take a fair amount of time off work so I will be able to dedicate more time now than I would most other times of the year.

I have been looking at the Higdon Novice 2 Training Plan and I would pick it up after the HM midway through it.  

Target marathon timing would be Jan/Feb.  

If you guys don't think I'm totally looney-tunes for considering this, the two top marathon options I have my eye on are:

1.  Mesa-PHX Marathon

The timing (late Feb) is a little later than I would like but the weather should be perfect (cool & dry).  What I don't like is that it is a net-downhill race (almost 800ft net drop) and if I only run one marathon in my life I don't want it to be one with an asterisk.  

2.  Chevron Houston Marathon

I think this is my preferred option.  Timing is late-Jan, which is perfect to complete the 2nd half of the Higdon plan.  I lived for 11 years in Houston so it also feels a little like a local race.  Sea-level running should help and it's unlikely to be warm (but still a chance).  Humidity will likely be higher than I'm used to running in.  And I can't think of a better post-race meal than Chuy's.

While the Hanson race-equivalency calculator suggests that my target marathon time should be 3:44, I hold no illusions of that possibility.  Primary goal would be to just finish, and a stretch goal would be <4hrs.

Thoughts?  Criticism?  Gales of laughter?

 
@Zasada Yes, go for it!

What’s the longest you’ve run?  My only concern is if the weekly long runs might be too much since you’d be starting off with 17 miles.  That’s a lot of KMs. But, as you mention, you don’t have a clear time goal which makes sense. At a minimum, it will be a great learning experience.

 
Zasada said:
OK, guys, need your thoughts/advice again.

So coming-off my HM high, I'm seriously considering giving 42.2 a try.  I have put the training in for the HM and feel like I have an opportunity to "extend" said training to a full marathon, rather than scaling-down and potentially having to scale-up again later next year.

While the winter weather isn't all that conducive to training, it is a time of year when I do take a fair amount of time off work so I will be able to dedicate more time now than I would most other times of the year.

I have been looking at the Higdon Novice 2 Training Plan and I would pick it up after the HM midway through it.  

Target marathon timing would be Jan/Feb.  

If you guys don't think I'm totally looney-tunes for considering this, the two top marathon options I have my eye on are:

1.  Mesa-PHX Marathon

The timing (late Feb) is a little later than I would like but the weather should be perfect (cool & dry).  What I don't like is that it is a net-downhill race (almost 800ft net drop) and if I only run one marathon in my life I don't want it to be one with an asterisk.  

2.  Chevron Houston Marathon

I think this is my preferred option.  Timing is late-Jan, which is perfect to complete the 2nd half of the Higdon plan.  I lived for 11 years in Houston so it also feels a little like a local race.  Sea-level running should help and it's unlikely to be warm (but still a chance).  Humidity will likely be higher than I'm used to running in.  And I can't think of a better post-race meal than Chuy's.

While the Hanson race-equivalency calculator suggests that my target marathon time should be 3:44, I hold no illusions of that possibility.  Primary goal would be to just finish, and a stretch goal would be <4hrs.

Thoughts?  Criticism?  Gales of laughter?
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As long as you can get the training done there in the Great White North, then go for it!  And sounds like Houston is the way to go for all of the reasons you laid out. 

 
Juxtatarot said:
@Zasada Yes, go for it!

What’s the longest you’ve run?  My only concern is if the weekly long runs might be too much since you’d be starting off with 17 miles.  That’s a lot of KMs. But, as you mention, you don’t have a clear time goal which makes sense. At a minimum, it will be a great learning experience.
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I've done a long run of 20-21kms in 5 of the last 7 weeks (one of which was the race).  I was going to give a 25-30km run a go this weekend but it snowed.  So I think I might give that a go on Tuesday when I have some time to kill in Amsterdam.  Basically I need to get 4 runs of 25km+ done in the next eight weeks.  I'm pretty sure I can do that.

 
Zasada said:
OK, guys, need your thoughts/advice again.

So coming-off my HM high, I'm seriously considering giving 42.2 a try.  I have put the training in for the HM and feel like I have an opportunity to "extend" said training to a full marathon, rather than scaling-down and potentially having to scale-up again later next year.

While the winter weather isn't all that conducive to training, it is a time of year when I do take a fair amount of time off work so I will be able to dedicate more time now than I would most other times of the year.

I have been looking at the Higdon Novice 2 Training Plan and I would pick it up after the HM midway through it.  

Target marathon timing would be Jan/Feb.  

If you guys don't think I'm totally looney-tunes for considering this, the two top marathon options I have my eye on are:

1.  Mesa-PHX Marathon

The timing (late Feb) is a little later than I would like but the weather should be perfect (cool & dry).  What I don't like is that it is a net-downhill race (almost 800ft net drop) and if I only run one marathon in my life I don't want it to be one with an asterisk.  

2.  Chevron Houston Marathon

I think this is my preferred option.  Timing is late-Jan, which is perfect to complete the 2nd half of the Higdon plan.  I lived for 11 years in Houston so it also feels a little like a local race.  Sea-level running should help and it's unlikely to be warm (but still a chance).  Humidity will likely be higher than I'm used to running in.  And I can't think of a better post-race meal than Chuy's.

While the Hanson race-equivalency calculator suggests that my target marathon time should be 3:44, I hold no illusions of that possibility.  Primary goal would be to just finish, and a stretch goal would be <4hrs.

Thoughts?  Criticism?  Gales of laughter?
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Wait until March and come do Carmel, IN with me. A little more time for some base training and weather should be pretty favorable. And a flat course.

 
Ocram said:
Wait until March and come do Carmel, IN with me. A little more time for some base training and weather should be pretty favorable. And a flat course.
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I don't think I can keep up the training pace for 4+ months.  It would certainly increase the chances of success but I don't think I have that kind of discipline.  

But maybe a HM...

 
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