Well that's good news. Maybe next year I won't be too fat to run this one with you
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tri-man 47
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Dang, Juxt, those are fantastic stats!!! Glad you were able to hang tough and set a big PR, particularly given how the past few weeks have gone. Congrats!
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Just a quick note to say it was good to meet up with gruecd for a bit during halftime of one of the B1G tournament games yesterday at the United Center.
Nigel
Footballguy
Congrats Juxt, that was bad-###!
Also good to hear all the tread mill miles translated well for you on race day. Rainy and cold in Boston today so 18 more on the mill for me this morning. However after a 5 mile warmup I had the 2nd half of Boston programmed into the treadmill via a Google maps connection so I had all of the elevation changes on the fly. Made the run much more interesting. Felt great, averaged 9:45s overall with last 3 at 9:10 MGP.
Also good to hear all the tread mill miles translated well for you on race day. Rainy and cold in Boston today so 18 more on the mill for me this morning. However after a 5 mile warmup I had the 2nd half of Boston programmed into the treadmill via a Google maps connection so I had all of the elevation changes on the fly. Made the run much more interesting. Felt great, averaged 9:45s overall with last 3 at 9:10 MGP.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Learned a lesson today...one I kind of already knew.
But if I don't run first thing in the morning...I should wait til later at night.
2 hours after lunch...in rain...not good for me.
Just never felt right the whole time and cut it short rather than push when I wasn't feeling into it at all.
Awesome job Juxt
But if I don't run first thing in the morning...I should wait til later at night.
2 hours after lunch...in rain...not good for me.
Just never felt right the whole time and cut it short rather than push when I wasn't feeling into it at all.
Awesome job Juxt
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
FUBAR
Footballguy
MAC_32
Footballguy
St Malachi 5 mile run
The weather forecast was unsettling, but it ended up being near perfect. The last of the rain moved on while on the drive to the race, which left us with fog, a slight drizzle, very little wind, and temps in the forties.
The first 1/4 mile is all uphill, but most of the next mile and a half is at a decline. Last year I went out way too fast (5:55/6:20) and paid for it dearly on the way back. This year I was sure not to repeat the mistake. I really lengthened my stride on the down's, but dialed it back on the flats, knowing I would need that energy later if I wanted a shot at a time in the 33's. :6:25/6:30, ok, much better this time around.
It's a quasi out and back, so I pass my wife around mile 2 1/2 or 2 3/4. Last year she said I looked terrible and I was too beat up to even try to seek her out. This year, exact opposite. I got to the mile 3 check point at almost the exact same time, 19:45, but felt so much better. This is when this race gets hard though, what goes down must come up. The lowest point of the race is just after mile 3 and the highest is mile 4.5. It's only about a 150 foot climb, but it's constant and it wears on you. There is a break in the middle, so my goal was to quick step the first climb then attack the break, and treat the second climb like a race to the finish. In theory, it should work, but in practice I felt like I was going nowhere quick stepping. The top of that hill could not come fast enough. It took me a good block or two to regain my stride, but I never completely got it back. I was struggling, but I knew it was all down hill (literally) after mile 4.5. I missed my mile four split, but I'm not confident it's what I needed it to be.
The second climb went much better as I entered attack mode then as we reached the top of the bridge I felt my last burst of energy creep into my legs. The final 1/2 mile is all downhill, some of it steep, and I was flying. I had struggled all race picking people off and maintaining leads on those I did pick off, but I felt like I passed all of them again on the final descent. I didn't count, I just took it one at a time, but if I had to guess closer to twenty than ten. I turned the final corner and saw a 33 on the board but unfortunately the next number was a 5 and I knew there wasn't a shot.
In the end I'm not going to complain about a 34:15 (106th of 2300) given my expectations going into the race, but the lesson from this years race. Don't short step that first uphill. Given what I did the first three miles and last 1/2 mile (plus) that strategy for that climb wrecked my pace. Oh well, it'll keep me hungry for next year.
While it wasn't the greatest, although certainly not bad, race. The company, whiskey, stories, beers, and family time that followed throughout the rest of the day more than made up for it. Now time to go make dozens of loaves of soda bread. My favorite time of year, slainte!
The weather forecast was unsettling, but it ended up being near perfect. The last of the rain moved on while on the drive to the race, which left us with fog, a slight drizzle, very little wind, and temps in the forties.
The first 1/4 mile is all uphill, but most of the next mile and a half is at a decline. Last year I went out way too fast (5:55/6:20) and paid for it dearly on the way back. This year I was sure not to repeat the mistake. I really lengthened my stride on the down's, but dialed it back on the flats, knowing I would need that energy later if I wanted a shot at a time in the 33's. :6:25/6:30, ok, much better this time around.
It's a quasi out and back, so I pass my wife around mile 2 1/2 or 2 3/4. Last year she said I looked terrible and I was too beat up to even try to seek her out. This year, exact opposite. I got to the mile 3 check point at almost the exact same time, 19:45, but felt so much better. This is when this race gets hard though, what goes down must come up. The lowest point of the race is just after mile 3 and the highest is mile 4.5. It's only about a 150 foot climb, but it's constant and it wears on you. There is a break in the middle, so my goal was to quick step the first climb then attack the break, and treat the second climb like a race to the finish. In theory, it should work, but in practice I felt like I was going nowhere quick stepping. The top of that hill could not come fast enough. It took me a good block or two to regain my stride, but I never completely got it back. I was struggling, but I knew it was all down hill (literally) after mile 4.5. I missed my mile four split, but I'm not confident it's what I needed it to be.
The second climb went much better as I entered attack mode then as we reached the top of the bridge I felt my last burst of energy creep into my legs. The final 1/2 mile is all downhill, some of it steep, and I was flying. I had struggled all race picking people off and maintaining leads on those I did pick off, but I felt like I passed all of them again on the final descent. I didn't count, I just took it one at a time, but if I had to guess closer to twenty than ten. I turned the final corner and saw a 33 on the board but unfortunately the next number was a 5 and I knew there wasn't a shot.
In the end I'm not going to complain about a 34:15 (106th of 2300) given my expectations going into the race, but the lesson from this years race. Don't short step that first uphill. Given what I did the first three miles and last 1/2 mile (plus) that strategy for that climb wrecked my pace. Oh well, it'll keep me hungry for next year.
While it wasn't the greatest, although certainly not bad, race. The company, whiskey, stories, beers, and family time that followed throughout the rest of the day more than made up for it. Now time to go make dozens of loaves of soda bread. My favorite time of year, slainte!
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Good job MAC.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Way to go, MAC!
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Little victories: After a failed attempt to run yesterday, I was able to run a full mile today on a local track. The foot/ankle are a bit tender, but not in any sort of pain, which is encouraging.
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Little victories: After a failed attempt to run yesterday, I was able to run a full mile today on a local track. The foot/ankle are a bit tender, but not in any sort of pain, which is encouraging.
El Floppo
Footballguy
2x runs with Floppinho did not materialize due to my work-load this weekend (work, work, not run-work).
but we got a 1.5m run in this afternoon... his longest and he was dying- but mostly a pacing thing (and keeping excited chatter down). I broached the idea of doing a 5k and he didn't shoot it down- seemed kinda intrigued- which is a win in my book.
and this time, I set the timer at the door and just timed it that way- not indicative of speed (we have to get out of our apt building before starting running, not to mention stopping at red lights), but will be good for the next time.
eta: and reality is- getting back into this... hopefully... after almost 10 years- it's going to be better for me to start at his pace and distance and crawl my way back into anything rather than risk coming back too much too fast (which the muscle memory in my legs is telling me to do... I'm telling them to fcuk right off)
but we got a 1.5m run in this afternoon... his longest and he was dying- but mostly a pacing thing (and keeping excited chatter down). I broached the idea of doing a 5k and he didn't shoot it down- seemed kinda intrigued- which is a win in my book.
and this time, I set the timer at the door and just timed it that way- not indicative of speed (we have to get out of our apt building before starting running, not to mention stopping at red lights), but will be good for the next time.
eta: and reality is- getting back into this... hopefully... after almost 10 years- it's going to be better for me to start at his pace and distance and crawl my way back into anything rather than risk coming back too much too fast (which the muscle memory in my legs is telling me to do... I'm telling them to fcuk right off)
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ChiefD
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Week 8
Monday: 6.04 Miles. 149 HR. 10:41 Pace.
Tuesday: 3.42 mile Pace Run. 165 HR. 8:32 pace.
Wednesday: Rested. Some dead legs here.
Thursday: 5.35 Mile Tempo. 1 mile warm up, then 3 miles at 176 HR. Avg Pace 8:10. Then cool down.
Friday: Off
Saturday: 5.06 Mile Pace. 167 HR. 9:06 Pace. What a difference drinking 4 beers the night before. First beers I've had in this training cycle. They sure tasted good though.
Sunday: 10.23 Miles. HR 149. Pace 10:39.
So mileage wise: 30.1. Another good week.
I think I'm running too fast on my easy runs. Been hitting 148-149 on my HR most days. I know I'm pushing the edge there. Probably should really be closer to 142.
I just feel so slow and comfortable at the 146-149 range.
Monday: 6.04 Miles. 149 HR. 10:41 Pace.
Tuesday: 3.42 mile Pace Run. 165 HR. 8:32 pace.
Wednesday: Rested. Some dead legs here.
Thursday: 5.35 Mile Tempo. 1 mile warm up, then 3 miles at 176 HR. Avg Pace 8:10. Then cool down.
Friday: Off
Saturday: 5.06 Mile Pace. 167 HR. 9:06 Pace. What a difference drinking 4 beers the night before. First beers I've had in this training cycle. They sure tasted good though.
Sunday: 10.23 Miles. HR 149. Pace 10:39.
So mileage wise: 30.1. Another good week.
I think I'm running too fast on my easy runs. Been hitting 148-149 on my HR most days. I know I'm pushing the edge there. Probably should really be closer to 142.
I just feel so slow and comfortable at the 146-149 range.
bentley
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I signed up for this MS 150 bike race, which is a ride from Houston to Austin that takes place in six weeks, like a moron. After borrowing a bike last Sunday, I rode 10 miles yesterday and 12 miles today. My taint is already killing me. Not sure how I'm going to make 83 miles on the first Saturday.
I have a 10K that I love the weekend before. Are 3 days running and 3 days on the bike per week too much for someone that is fitter cardiowise than most (although well below average among this amazing group)?
I have a 10K that I love the weekend before. Are 3 days running and 3 days on the bike per week too much for someone that is fitter cardiowise than most (although well below average among this amazing group)?
Sand
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pbm107
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Not a good training week for me, got in 10 miles less than planned and failed the marathon pace run.
M Planned on running 10 with 6 X 1000s, both the track and the park were to icy to run intervals. Ran 5 easy in AM and 5 easy on the treadmill in PM.
T 15 at 8:21 132
W 6 at 8:09 133
T It was supposed to be 12 miles, but in the middle of the night I woke up with knee pain. The pain went away around lunch time and hasn't returned. I have been sitting more than usual at work, and I am guessing that is what caused it. I didn't run at all this day.
F Was supposed to be a day off, but ran 6 at 8:35 131.
S Was supposed to be my marathon pace run, but it raining. Saw that the weather was supposed to be better Sun, ran 6 on the treadmill.
S Attempted to run the 18 with 14 at MP. It was windy, weather underground shows that the gusts were up to 27 mph. I ran 10.5 at MP effort, but jogged the rest of the run.
7:06 161, 7:07 161, 7:40 165 hill, 7:18 162, 6:59 158 downhill, 7:24 161, 7:17 160, 7:22 160, 7:30 155, 7:57 158 hill.
61 miles for the week, hopefully this week will be better.
M Planned on running 10 with 6 X 1000s, both the track and the park were to icy to run intervals. Ran 5 easy in AM and 5 easy on the treadmill in PM.
T 15 at 8:21 132
W 6 at 8:09 133
T It was supposed to be 12 miles, but in the middle of the night I woke up with knee pain. The pain went away around lunch time and hasn't returned. I have been sitting more than usual at work, and I am guessing that is what caused it. I didn't run at all this day.
F Was supposed to be a day off, but ran 6 at 8:35 131.
S Was supposed to be my marathon pace run, but it raining. Saw that the weather was supposed to be better Sun, ran 6 on the treadmill.
S Attempted to run the 18 with 14 at MP. It was windy, weather underground shows that the gusts were up to 27 mph. I ran 10.5 at MP effort, but jogged the rest of the run.
7:06 161, 7:07 161, 7:40 165 hill, 7:18 162, 6:59 158 downhill, 7:24 161, 7:17 160, 7:22 160, 7:30 155, 7:57 158 hill.
61 miles for the week, hopefully this week will be better.
parasaurolophus
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I'm with duck. you #######s are too fast. Does not compute.
As for me, 10 non-mac/juxt miles yesterday running around Washington DC. I felt like I was in an asics commercial when I got to the Lincoln memorial. So many runners going up the steps and turning around back down the steps and off in different directions. It was such a cool site.
Would have liked to have kept running, but the trip was short and I didnt want my wife and son to have to wait for me for too long.
As for me, 10 non-mac/juxt miles yesterday running around Washington DC. I felt like I was in an asics commercial when I got to the Lincoln memorial. So many runners going up the steps and turning around back down the steps and off in different directions. It was such a cool site.
Would have liked to have kept running, but the trip was short and I didnt want my wife and son to have to wait for me for too long.
The Commish
Footballguy
So, it turns out long weekend trips to Charleston with friends, hopping from bar to bar aren't a good idea if you want to run. Went back today and my bowels weren't too happy with me 
Focused and back on the horse though. Powered through best I could...rehydrating now.
Focused and back on the horse though. Powered through best I could...rehydrating now.
MAC_32
Footballguy
You haven't lived until you've had a race with your insides to the nearest toilet.So, it turns out long weekend trips to Charleston with friends, hopping from bar to bar aren't a good idea if you want to run. Went back today and my bowels weren't too happy with me
Autumn Wind
Footballguy
Well, the first 5K is out of the way (Leprechaun 5K in Freehold, NJ for those keeping score). Final time was 42:04:04, with a 13:33 pace. I was 142nd out of 163 finishers.
Good stuff:
Overall it was a positive experience and I'm rather proud of myself for finally getting off my ### and just doing one. I'm already looking for another one to sign up for, and maybe now I can start setting some actual performance goals. The thing I noticed yesterday was that I think my form is terrible, and I probably expend way more energy than I need to. I've never been the most physical person and I think I tend to lumber rather than take advantage of my build (I'm 6 feet with a fairly long stride). Any suggestions you guys want to pass along for that would be helpful.
Good stuff:
- I did not pass out during the run.
- I finished.
- I did not come in dead last.
- All kidding aside, this was a pretty major achievement for me given my general lack of fitness through my whole life.
Overall it was a positive experience and I'm rather proud of myself for finally getting off my ### and just doing one. I'm already looking for another one to sign up for, and maybe now I can start setting some actual performance goals. The thing I noticed yesterday was that I think my form is terrible, and I probably expend way more energy than I need to. I've never been the most physical person and I think I tend to lumber rather than take advantage of my build (I'm 6 feet with a fairly long stride). Any suggestions you guys want to pass along for that would be helpful.
ChiefD
Footballguy
Nice job AW. A new PR!
Just keep moving. You've already accomplished the hard part - getting started.
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
I had a pretty fun adventure yesterday. On Saturday, the girlfriend and I went to a brew fest in the town we used to live in, Fairfax. We knew we were going to have brunch with mimosas before, many beers, and then dinner after, so there was no way we were driving the 30 minutes home. So before we left I pulled up google maps and, with a little tweaking, figured out a mostly fire road and trail 20 mile route from our place back in Novato back to Fairfax. There are a series of hills just to the West of me, and I knew from what I saw out plane windows while flying in there were fire roads and trails up there, and I was excited to finally check them out.
The first mile was flat road, then it was a steep climb up what was labeled a private road, but it was paved with several houses so I kept going. When I got to the top 2.5 miles in I found a dead end, with two gates both locked and posted no trespassing. There were also a couple of trucks pulling out of one of them, so no way I could carry on as they eyed me suspiciously. So I pulled out my phone and started looking for another route to the fire road I was trying to get to on top of the hills, and headed back down to try another way.
I ran down the hill and on the road a bit until I got to a trailhead I'd hit a couple of times before. Continuing to follow the map I found a trail that ended up going straight up the side of the mountain. A couple of miles in was a fence posted no trespassing, but out here I wasn't as worried about it so squeezed through and pushed on. The "trail" turned into pretty much a game trail, with only 3'-4' clearance in a couple of spots, and steep enough that I was using my hands at times. Eventually I came out on to a fire road that looked to connect with the one I was trying to get to, and kept climbing. I finally hit the top and a barbed wire fence, with the road I wanted and an escape from the private land on the other side. I was able to find a place to crawl under, and I was back on the route I had originally planned.
The views from the top were amazing with clear view of The Bay and SF in the background. I cruised along the ridge line for awhile and then dropped down the other side. It was warm and this was taking longer than I had planned due to the detour and stopping to navigate, so I was happy to find a small park with drinking fountain to top off my hydration pack and bottle before running a mile on the road to connect with another trail system to continue the journey south. This section was even better as it was mostly single and double track, and some more amazing looks at the Bay. I climbed up to the top of this ridgeline and then it was all downhill into Fairfax. A quick water jug wash down at the car and change of shirt and I stopped to have a brat and an IPA before heading back home.
All in all was about 21 miles with only 4-5 of that on pavement, good for 4,130' of elevation. With stopping to take pictures, navigation, and climbing it was almost as much power hiking as running, but what a fun day and way to explore parts of the County I had never seen.
The first mile was flat road, then it was a steep climb up what was labeled a private road, but it was paved with several houses so I kept going. When I got to the top 2.5 miles in I found a dead end, with two gates both locked and posted no trespassing. There were also a couple of trucks pulling out of one of them, so no way I could carry on as they eyed me suspiciously. So I pulled out my phone and started looking for another route to the fire road I was trying to get to on top of the hills, and headed back down to try another way.
I ran down the hill and on the road a bit until I got to a trailhead I'd hit a couple of times before. Continuing to follow the map I found a trail that ended up going straight up the side of the mountain. A couple of miles in was a fence posted no trespassing, but out here I wasn't as worried about it so squeezed through and pushed on. The "trail" turned into pretty much a game trail, with only 3'-4' clearance in a couple of spots, and steep enough that I was using my hands at times. Eventually I came out on to a fire road that looked to connect with the one I was trying to get to, and kept climbing. I finally hit the top and a barbed wire fence, with the road I wanted and an escape from the private land on the other side. I was able to find a place to crawl under, and I was back on the route I had originally planned.
The views from the top were amazing with clear view of The Bay and SF in the background. I cruised along the ridge line for awhile and then dropped down the other side. It was warm and this was taking longer than I had planned due to the detour and stopping to navigate, so I was happy to find a small park with drinking fountain to top off my hydration pack and bottle before running a mile on the road to connect with another trail system to continue the journey south. This section was even better as it was mostly single and double track, and some more amazing looks at the Bay. I climbed up to the top of this ridgeline and then it was all downhill into Fairfax. A quick water jug wash down at the car and change of shirt and I stopped to have a brat and an IPA before heading back home.
All in all was about 21 miles with only 4-5 of that on pavement, good for 4,130' of elevation. With stopping to take pictures, navigation, and climbing it was almost as much power hiking as running, but what a fun day and way to explore parts of the County I had never seen.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Yes, congrats on the PR!
Some day you'll look back at this and be amazed at your progress (while enjoying the health benefits of continued effort).As to the stride ...don't overstride ...don't reach too far. You don't want to go straight-leg and land on your heel out in front of your body because then your body needs to 'catch up' with your foot plant. Better to keep a bit of forward lean to your body and feel like your stride is pushing you ahead. Think of a kid on a scooter, pushing forward, pushing forward. This is where running up a slope can be helpful as you land on the ball of your foot and push ahead ...you really can't overstride when running up a slope.
Sand
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Sand
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tri-man 47
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phatdawg
Footballguy
Something odd happened today. I only had time this morning to run a quick 3 miles before work ... and I was disappointed that I had to do such a short run. As a liftime non-runner who ran only as training for another sport or to get away from the law, it seems virtually implausible that I would have that thought. Last year at this time, just finishing 3 miles was such an accomplishment.
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gruecd
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Agreed! It was good to see you, too! Glad to hear the foot and ankle are getting better!
Juxt and MAC - Congrats on a couple of nice runs!!
As for me, mileage is still way down. Only running a few times/week, but I'm still doing the long runs, so I guess that's what's important. Didn't get out this past weekend, so I left work early yesterday and ran 20 in the unseasonably warm weather (60s). I didn't carry water because I assumed that I could find some along the course, but I was wrong, and I didn't have anything to drink until mile 13, when I stopped at a McDonalds and asked for a glass of water. So I was dehydrated and under-fueled (only 2 GUs), and I'm undertrained and heavier than I'd like, and I still managed 8:11 pace. So I guess I'll take it. I'll do something shorter this weekend and then hopefully one more 20-miler the following weekend.
FUBAR
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can't complain but dang this heat sucks.
Higdon's plan today called for 6 x 400 5-K pace.
Decided to go up to 10 as long as I kept the pace under 6 for each.
half mile warm up, 1/4 PE9, 1/4 walk/jog to keep HR in the low 130s (failed to keep it this low in the 2nd set of 4)
Broken down - first 4 - 5:51, second 4 - 5:55, last 2 - 5:44
each was under 6 - although #6 and 7 were at 5:59
Higdon's plan today called for 6 x 400 5-K pace.
Decided to go up to 10 as long as I kept the pace under 6 for each.
half mile warm up, 1/4 PE9, 1/4 walk/jog to keep HR in the low 130s (failed to keep it this low in the 2nd set of 4)
Broken down - first 4 - 5:51, second 4 - 5:55, last 2 - 5:44
each was under 6 - although #6 and 7 were at 5:59
ChiefD
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Rough day today. Supposed to be 5x800, but after two there was no way I was handling it today. Aborted and just tried really hard to run slow. Kept my HR at 138, which is the first time I've been able to sustain it. Ended up running 4+ miles at an 11:04 pace. Which actually isn't bad since I hadn't been able to get my HR down that low.
On top of that, saw three B2 stealth bombers heading back to Whiteman AFB. Very cool.
On top of that, saw three B2 stealth bombers heading back to Whiteman AFB. Very cool.
The Commish
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Think I've hit a wall. I haven't been able to get to running without a brief walking period. I'm suppose to be running for a full 20 minutes, but can usually only get to 15-16 minutes, then have to walk for a couple minutes, then go again for the rest of the time. 
I'm pretty sure it's purely mental (sorta like when one begins lifting weights and they put the 45s on the bar for the first time)
I try to keep it in perspective.....I wasn't able to run 3 minutes at a time just 5 weeks ago, so there's that.
I'm pretty sure it's purely mental (sorta like when one begins lifting weights and they put the 45s on the bar for the first time)I try to keep it in perspective.....I wasn't able to run 3 minutes at a time just 5 weeks ago, so there's that.
tri-man 47
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I'm curious about the bolded, and it seems you are, too. What does it mean that you "have to walk?" Physically, what's happening? Does your breathing become labored? Are you unable to lift your legs and continue striding? And then, why walk for a couple of minutes? Why not 30 seconds? As you conclude, it probably is mental, and it takes you a couple minutes to psych back up. Three thoughts: 1) Before going out, pick some sort of mantra to use, and when that urge to stop occurs, use the mantra to keep going - a word/words (e.g., H..T..F..U) or phrase or song (Michigan fight song?). But you have to plan this in advance. 2) As you're running, let your mind slowly run through a self-assessment - shoulders relaxed, arms swinging freely front to back, hands loose, hips moving steady, upper legs lifting, lower legs pushing back, feet landing quietly; rinse, repeat. It gets your mind off the negatives. 3) Focus on your breathing. I specifically like to focus on a firm exhale, which reinforces the striding.Think I've hit a wall. I haven't been able to get to running without a brief walking period. I'm suppose to be running for a full 20 minutes, but can usually only get to 15-16 minutes, then have to walk for a couple minutes, then go again for the rest of the time.
I try to keep it in perspective.....I wasn't able to run 3 minutes at a time just 5 weeks ago, so there's that.
The Commish
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Yeah, I run out of breath and sound like a freakin' Clydesdale. My legs feel good and my heart rate (based on the TM is around 150ish) so it's not like it's pounding out of my chest.I'm curious about the bolded, and it seems you are, too. What does it mean that you "have to walk?" Physically, what's happening? Does your breathing become labored? Are you unable to lift your legs and continue striding? And then, why walk for a couple of minutes? Why not 30 seconds? As you conclude, it probably is mental, and it takes you a couple minutes to psych back up. Three thoughts: 1) Before going out, pick some sort of mantra to use, and when that urge to stop occurs, use the mantra to keep going - a word/words (e.g., H..T..F..U) or phrase or song (Michigan fight song?). But you have to plan this in advance. 2) As you're running, let your mind slowly run through a self-assessment - shoulders relaxed, arms swinging freely front to back, hands loose, hips moving steady, upper legs lifting, lower legs pushing back, feet landing quietly; rinse, repeat. It gets your mind off the negatives. 3) Focus on your breathing. I specifically like to focus on a firm exhale, which reinforces the striding.Think I've hit a wall. I haven't been able to get to running without a brief walking period. I'm suppose to be running for a full 20 minutes, but can usually only get to 15-16 minutes, then have to walk for a couple minutes, then go again for the rest of the time.
I try to keep it in perspective.....I wasn't able to run 3 minutes at a time just 5 weeks ago, so there's that.
And it might sound dumb, but I think changing the music I am listening too might help. It's getting boring to me and doesn't get me motivated like it did at the beginning. I'd focus on that before, but now find my mind wandering to other things and it's becoming annoying.
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beer 30
Footballguy
So it's a matter of getting your cardio up not a physical limitation. Just keep running, it will come.Yeah, I run out of breath and sound like a freakin' Clydesdale. My legs feel good and my heart rate (based on the TM is around 150ish) so it's not like it's pounding out of my chest.I'm curious about the bolded, and it seems you are, too. What does it mean that you "have to walk?" Physically, what's happening? Does your breathing become labored? Are you unable to lift your legs and continue striding? And then, why walk for a couple of minutes? Why not 30 seconds? As you conclude, it probably is mental, and it takes you a couple minutes to psych back up. Three thoughts: 1) Before going out, pick some sort of mantra to use, and when that urge to stop occurs, use the mantra to keep going - a word/words (e.g., H..T..F..U) or phrase or song (Michigan fight song?). But you have to plan this in advance. 2) As you're running, let your mind slowly run through a self-assessment - shoulders relaxed, arms swinging freely front to back, hands loose, hips moving steady, upper legs lifting, lower legs pushing back, feet landing quietly; rinse, repeat. It gets your mind off the negatives. 3) Focus on your breathing. I specifically like to focus on a firm exhale, which reinforces the striding.Think I've hit a wall. I haven't been able to get to running without a brief walking period. I'm suppose to be running for a full 20 minutes, but can usually only get to 15-16 minutes, then have to walk for a couple minutes, then go again for the rest of the time.
I try to keep it in perspective.....I wasn't able to run 3 minutes at a time just 5 weeks ago, so there's that.
And it might sound dumb, but I think changing the music I am listening too might help. It's getting boring to me and doesn't get me motivated like it did at the beginning. I'd focus on that before, but now find my mind wandering to other things and it's becoming annoying.
As tri suggested you need to distract your mind from the suck. Change up the playlist, listen to a podcast, do math, talk through a problem at work, lots of stuff you can do. And slow down. If you are supposed to be running 20 minutes and you're running out of gas at 15 you're running to fast. I know it's counter intuitive but trust me, if you want to run farther, faster...slow down.
The Commish
Footballguy
No that makes sense....I already appear to be borderline walkingSo it's a matter of getting your cardio up not a physical limitation. Just keep running, it will come.Yeah, I run out of breath and sound like a freakin' Clydesdale. My legs feel good and my heart rate (based on the TM is around 150ish) so it's not like it's pounding out of my chest.I'm curious about the bolded, and it seems you are, too. What does it mean that you "have to walk?" Physically, what's happening? Does your breathing become labored? Are you unable to lift your legs and continue striding? And then, why walk for a couple of minutes? Why not 30 seconds? As you conclude, it probably is mental, and it takes you a couple minutes to psych back up. Three thoughts: 1) Before going out, pick some sort of mantra to use, and when that urge to stop occurs, use the mantra to keep going - a word/words (e.g., H..T..F..U) or phrase or song (Michigan fight song?). But you have to plan this in advance. 2) As you're running, let your mind slowly run through a self-assessment - shoulders relaxed, arms swinging freely front to back, hands loose, hips moving steady, upper legs lifting, lower legs pushing back, feet landing quietly; rinse, repeat. It gets your mind off the negatives. 3) Focus on your breathing. I specifically like to focus on a firm exhale, which reinforces the striding.Think I've hit a wall. I haven't been able to get to running without a brief walking period. I'm suppose to be running for a full 20 minutes, but can usually only get to 15-16 minutes, then have to walk for a couple minutes, then go again for the rest of the time.
I try to keep it in perspective.....I wasn't able to run 3 minutes at a time just 5 weeks ago, so there's that.
And it might sound dumb, but I think changing the music I am listening too might help. It's getting boring to me and doesn't get me motivated like it did at the beginning. I'd focus on that before, but now find my mind wandering to other things and it's becoming annoying.
As tri suggested you need to distract your mind from the suck. Change up the playlist, listen to a podcast, do math, talk through a problem at work, lots of stuff you can do. And slow down. If you are supposed to be running 20 minutes and you're running out of gas at 15 you're running to fast. I know it's counter intuitive but trust me, if you want to run farther, faster...slow down.
The other thing today was I didn't eat breakfast and didn't have nearly enough water so my stomach was rumbling too. I just wasn't focused.
beer 30
Footballguy
Don't get caught up in speed right now. I know it's the first thing you look at because it's very measurable and what everyone posts about in here but early on, the only thing you should concentrate on is time on your feet. I ran 20 minutes straight today, I ran a mile without having to walk, stuff like that. Keep increasing the time/distance and believe me, within a month or so it's almost like someone flips a switch. You don't even really notice it but suddenly you are running 3 miles, then 5 and in the same amount of time you used to run 2. Pretty cool, don't rush it. Put in the work, stick to the plan and it will happen, guaranteed. Go back and read ChiefD's posts from about a month or two ago to today. He's the textbook case currently going through the same thing, he's about a month or so into his cycle.No that makes sense....I already appear to be borderline walking
Brony
Footballguy
Beautiful morning for a run in Chicago this morning. 30F; sun comes up as I'm running. I've been in a good groove of running 4 miles at a reasonable clip for the last 2 weeks; running every other day. For the first time in a long, long time, I feel like I could do back-to-back days and my body would probably be fine. That said, I'm trying not to push it too hard and just enjoy the ability to run pain free.
When it's colder outside like today, my eyes will water for pretty much the entire run. This didn't happen when I was younger. Does it happen to anyone else?
When it's colder outside like today, my eyes will water for pretty much the entire run. This didn't happen when I was younger. Does it happen to anyone else?
The Commish
Footballguy
Makes sense. As I said before, I'm trying to keep it all in perspective. Just 6 weeks ago I wasn't thinking of being able to run a minute and a half....now I run 4-5 minutes without a thought or beginning to breath heavily. As far as my plan goes, I guess I should just keep on the week/day that I'm on until I can do it consistently? I don't think moving on makes sense until I can do the current step.Don't get caught up in speed right now. I know it's the first thing you look at because it's very measurable and what everyone posts about in here but early on, the only thing you should concentrate on is time on your feet. I ran 20 minutes straight today, I ran a mile without having to walk, stuff like that. Keep increasing the time/distance and believe me, within a month or so it's almost like someone flips a switch. You don't even really notice it but suddenly you are running 3 miles, then 5 and in the same amount of time you used to run 2. Pretty cool, don't rush it. Put in the work, stick to the plan and it will happen, guaranteed. Go back and read ChiefD's posts from about a month or two ago to today. He's the textbook case currently going through the same thing, he's about a month or so into his cycle.No that makes sense....I already appear to be borderline walking
Nigel
Footballguy
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Commish- One point about music: I think it's common for new runners to want to listen to "pump me up" type music (whatever the genre). I recommend music that relaxes you and calms.
ChiefD
Footballguy
Yeah, I am the poster child for progress. It does get better.Makes sense. As I said before, I'm trying to keep it all in perspective. Just 6 weeks ago I wasn't thinking of being able to run a minute and a half....now I run 4-5 minutes without a thought or beginning to breath heavily. As far as my plan goes, I guess I should just keep on the week/day that I'm on until I can do it consistently? I don't think moving on makes sense until I can do the current step.Don't get caught up in speed right now. I know it's the first thing you look at because it's very measurable and what everyone posts about in here but early on, the only thing you should concentrate on is time on your feet. I ran 20 minutes straight today, I ran a mile without having to walk, stuff like that. Keep increasing the time/distance and believe me, within a month or so it's almost like someone flips a switch. You don't even really notice it but suddenly you are running 3 miles, then 5 and in the same amount of time you used to run 2. Pretty cool, don't rush it. Put in the work, stick to the plan and it will happen, guaranteed. Go back and read ChiefD's posts from about a month or two ago to today. He's the textbook case currently going through the same thing, he's about a month or so into his cycle.No that makes sense....I already appear to be borderline walking
One trick I use sometimes when I start to feel like I can't run any farther is I start to focus on small goals:
"OK, make it to that next light post. Ok, now make it to that next tree there. OK, now make it to the next tree."
This pulls me out of a lot of funks, and before you know it I'm back on track.
