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Ran a 10k - Official Thread (8 Viewers)

I was going to complain but relatively speaking I have it better than you guys. It'll be 150 by the time I get out there, but probably not much more.

 
Overall not a bad week, nothing exceptional but good enough.

M: 7.3mi run

T: circuit training + swim

W: interval cycle

Th: body weight pullups, dips, abs; rower, 4.2mi run

F: 1 hour swim

Sa: 5.7mi run

Su: 28.5mi cycle

meeting my goals of 2 x run/bike/swim/weights. I'll start riding longer next weekend in preparation for the century ride. I don't think the ride is all that competitive.

 
Up and down week for me. Supposed to be a recovery week.

Mon: 4.99/7:54/123

Tues: 11.30/7:40/127

Wed: 5.00/7:53/122

Thur: 5.94 miles at track with 6 half mile intervals (half miles on a Garmin but a little short in reality like I posted about Thursday): 2:43, 2:42, 2:46, 2:45, 2:46, 2:44. I noticed Pfitz had 6 x 800 m in a recovery week in one of this schedules so I thought that would good to add for some speed. I have a mile race that I'm doing on Labor Day so it might also help for that. This was a great workout for me. I spend a little time searching past times and I think this is my best track session ever. Considering I've cut back on track stuff (this was the first time since early June), that's encouraging. And it shows you the benefits of volume!

Fri: 7.49/7:41/129

Sat: 15.03/7:48/137 Terrible run. Started out OK but about half way through I decided to get a CR on this stupid Strava segment by sprinting up a tenth of mile steep hill. I got the CR but my HR never went back to normal. Near the end I even slowed to try to get the HR back in zone but that didn't even work and I was laboring. Miles like 8:08/141, 8:13/139, 8:09/140. I'm not sure exactly why. Was it the hill sprint? Fatigue from Thursday? The heat (80 by the end but not very humid. I've mainly been running in the 60s this summer)? Dehydration? I guess probably a little of all these things.

Sun: 5.39/7:36/136 Heart rate high again! Drank a few beers last night and slept in so it was little warmer this morning (low 70s). That's probably why today.

55.12 miles for the week. I'll try to get in around 70 again next week. Onward and upward!

 
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Up and down week for me. Supposed to be a recovery week.

Mon: 4.99/7:54/123

Tues: 11.30/7:40/127

Wed: 5.00/7:53/122

Thur: 5.94 miles at track with 6 half mile intervals (half miles on a Garmin but a little short in reality like I posted about Thursday): 2:43, 2:42, 2:46, 2:45, 2:46, 2:44. I noticed Pfitz had 6 x 800 m in a recovery week in one of this schedules so I thought that would good to add for some speed. I have a mile race that I'm doing on Labor Day so it might also help for that. This was a great workout for me. I spend a little time searching past times and I think this is my best track session ever. Considering I've cut back on track stuff (this was the first time since early June), that's encouraging. And it shows you the benefits of volume!

Fri: 7.49/7:41/129

Sat: 15.03/7:48/137 Terrible run. Started out OK but about half way through I decided to get a CR on this stupid Strava segment by sprinting up a tenth of mile steep hill. I got the CR but my HR never went back to normal. Near the end I even slowed to try to get the HR back in zone but that didn't even work and I was laboring. Miles like 8:08/141, 8:13/139, 8:09/140. I'm not sure exactly why. Was it the hill sprint? Fatigue from Thursday? The heat (80 by the end but not very humid. I've mainly been running in the 60s this summer)? Dehydration? I guess probably a little of all these things.

Sun: 5.39/7:36/136 Heart rate high again! Drank a few beers last night and slept in so it was little warmer this morning (low 70s). That's probably why today.

55.12 miles for the week. I'll try to get in around 70 again next week. Onward and upward!
Your HR/pace ratio is absolutely amazing.

 
Sat: 15.03/7:48/137 Terrible run. Started out OK but about half way through I decided to get a CR on this stupid Strava segment by sprinting up a tenth of mile steep hill. I got the CR but my HR never went back to normal. Near the end I even slowed to try to get the HR back in zone but that didn't even work and I was laboring. Miles like 8:08/141, 8:13/139, 8:09/140. I'm not sure exactly why. Was it the hill sprint? Fatigue from Thursday? The heat (80 by the end but not very humid. I've mainly been running in the 60s this summer)? Dehydration? I guess probably a little of all these things.
The downside of Strava, right there. Well, at least for you guys fast enough to actually go after and set CRs. I'm just tracking my own progress on the segments I run all time, so it's easiy to keep the goal of the run in mind.

And yet I'm still in awe of what you and the others here can run in terms of pace, while I keep chugging along the trails at 11:00+ miles.

 
11.19/8:41/128 this morning in perfect weather to wrap up an all time high 43.5 mile week. Running another 5k next Saturday if I can get my daughter to join me.

 
I remember when Ned quit marathon running...
:lol: I know exactly how gruecd feels. I swear on all things holy that I'm done after Boston.

worrier - hang in there, GB. I was there 2 years ago taking care of my mom. As strange as it may seem, I now see that experience as drawing me closer than I ever was to my mom. I'm sure your mom knows just how supportive you're being and is damn proud you.

 
Well, I'm back from the world championships. I ran a whopping 6mi, and that wasn't until yesterday! :lol: Holy hell is it hilly up there. Those were some of the biggest hills I've ever run. Duck - I thought about you a few times as I'd look ahead and see nothing but mountain - you're flippin' insane...

tl;dr version (I'm sure most of the details are boring to people that don't shoot) - I had a phenomenal experience. Between the group of guys I went with to the pairings I had during the tournament - it was one of the best experiences of my life. I was actually a little choked up when we packed it up and left. I just didn't want things to end. Lots of shenanigans, awesome food, beer, and so much laughing I thought I threw my back out at times. I ended up 35th out of 138 in the men's open amateur class - very happy with that given my lack of experience.

Long Story....

This was the world championships for 3D archery. This is my first year shooting this game (Worlds was only the 6th tournament I've shot in this format). I'm at a severe experience disadvantage - this is all about knowing how to adapt to all of the variables that they can throw at you.

3D is all 3D foam animals like this where the target is set at an unknown distance in the woods, fields, etc. The targets vary by size from a small javelina to a huge elk. Each class has a different max yardage - the class I shot was the top amateur class with a 50yd max. Same as the pros, but the shots aren't quite as hard as they set for the pros.

The scoring rings etched in the target are scored as 11, 10, 8 and the rest of the body is a 5 (example pic). You only shoot 1 arrow per target. Each day you shoot 20 targets with 'par' being 200. The 11 ring is a bonus ring to give shooters a chance to make up ground. Anything around par after the 2 days of shooting will usually put you into the Sunday shootoff where the top 5 scores plus all ties goes into a head to head shootoff for the championship.

Being able to judge the distance on one of these targets to within 1-1.5 yards is the hardest part of the game. There are a ton of different variables that change how far a target looks. It just takes lots of experience to learn them all. You then have to factor in the trajectory of your shot, wind, elevation, etc before setting your sights. It's cliche, but its very similar to what you see those snipers doing with all their adjustments.

We got to the shoot early so we could practice for a couple of days. This was a big boost for me since I've not 'seen' as much as everyone else. The more I could get on targets, the better off I'd be. We spent all day Wednesday and Thursday up on the practice ranges. It was a blast and a big help so I could get used to things.

The shoot was at a huge ski resort - the terrain was incredible; I think I heard someone say they were on 66,000 acres. For this flatlander, I was a bit out of my league shooting off the sides of the mountains. The setup is very similar to golf - you're randomly paired up with 3 other guys and shoot with them at a specific 'tee time'. I was fortunate to be paired up with a great group of guys.

Each class shoots the same 2 ranges to ensure everyone is on an even playing field (20 total different ranges!). We shot the K range on Friday at 9:30 and the N range on Saturday at 11:30. Both of our ranges were on the top of one of the mountains, so we had to ride the ski lift up to the ranges. That was a cool experience carrying all of your gear onto the lift.

I've shot a few national tournaments now, and nerves were always a problem for me. This time, I wasn't terribly nervous....until I stepped up to the first stake on Friday. There were photographers there taking pics and the first shot was a friggin doozy. I had a huge adrenaline dump and really struggled on the first 2 shots - I shot an 8 and a 5. Being "7 down" from par after 2 targets was really disappointing, but I was able to regroup on target 3 and drilled an 11. That cooled me down and I went on to shoot 6 down the rest of the way. 187 was a respectable score, but I felt like I left some points out there.

Saturday I hit the practice range early before my tee time and I was on fire. I shot +6 over 14 targets and was stroking it (like when you're crunching drives straight down the middle in golf). That carried over well to the real range, which was a ball buster course - much more difficult than Friday's course. I felt great and was making great shots - I just struggled with some of the yardage judging. Some of these sets were things I'd just never seen before. Every shot was on the side of the mountain; one target going up, next target going back down. Rinse/repeat. I ended up with another 187, which I was thrilled with given the harder course. I checked the scores for that range - that was a top 10 score. :excited:

I ended up 35th out of 138 in the men's open class. Overall I'm thrilled with how I shot and learned a ton of lessons for next year. This was the best shooting performance I've had at a big national/world event. Once I get the yardage judging down, I think I can make some noise in this format. I can't wait until next year.
 
OMG - I just downloaded my data. 804' in climbing over that 6mi run. That's a walk in the park for Duck, but wow is that a lot for me! Maybe that's why I failed another 10/6 LT this morning. :kicksrock:

 
Well, I'm back from the world championships. I ran a whopping 6mi, and that wasn't until yesterday! :lol: Holy hell is it hilly up there. Those were some of the biggest hills I've ever run. Duck - I thought about you a few times as I'd look ahead and see nothing but mountain - you're flippin' insane...

tl;dr version (I'm sure most of the details are boring to people that don't shoot) - I had a phenomenal experience. Between the group of guys I went with to the pairings I had during the tournament - it was one of the best experiences of my life. I was actually a little choked up when we packed it up and left. I just didn't want things to end. Lots of shenanigans, awesome food, beer, and so much laughing I thought I threw my back out at times. I ended up 35th out of 138 in the men's open amateur class - very happy with that given my lack of experience.

Long Story....

This was the world championships for 3D archery. This is my first year shooting this game (Worlds was only the 6th tournament I've shot in this format). I'm at a severe experience disadvantage - this is all about knowing how to adapt to all of the variables that they can throw at you.

3D is all 3D foam animals like this where the target is set at an unknown distance in the woods, fields, etc. The targets vary by size from a small javelina to a huge elk. Each class has a different max yardage - the class I shot was the top amateur class with a 50yd max. Same as the pros, but the shots aren't quite as hard as they set for the pros.

The scoring rings etched in the target are scored as 11, 10, 8 and the rest of the body is a 5 (example pic). You only shoot 1 arrow per target. Each day you shoot 20 targets with 'par' being 200. The 11 ring is a bonus ring to give shooters a chance to make up ground. Anything around par after the 2 days of shooting will usually put you into the Sunday shootoff where the top 5 scores plus all ties goes into a head to head shootoff for the championship.

Being able to judge the distance on one of these targets to within 1-1.5 yards is the hardest part of the game. There are a ton of different variables that change how far a target looks. It just takes lots of experience to learn them all. You then have to factor in the trajectory of your shot, wind, elevation, etc before setting your sights. It's cliche, but its very similar to what you see those snipers doing with all their adjustments.

We got to the shoot early so we could practice for a couple of days. This was a big boost for me since I've not 'seen' as much as everyone else. The more I could get on targets, the better off I'd be. We spent all day Wednesday and Thursday up on the practice ranges. It was a blast and a big help so I could get used to things.

The shoot was at a huge ski resort - the terrain was incredible; I think I heard someone say they were on 66,000 acres. For this flatlander, I was a bit out of my league shooting off the sides of the mountains. The setup is very similar to golf - you're randomly paired up with 3 other guys and shoot with them at a specific 'tee time'. I was fortunate to be paired up with a great group of guys.

Each class shoots the same 2 ranges to ensure everyone is on an even playing field (20 total different ranges!). We shot the K range on Friday at 9:30 and the N range on Saturday at 11:30. Both of our ranges were on the top of one of the mountains, so we had to ride the ski lift up to the ranges. That was a cool experience carrying all of your gear onto the lift.

I've shot a few national tournaments now, and nerves were always a problem for me. This time, I wasn't terribly nervous....until I stepped up to the first stake on Friday. There were photographers there taking pics and the first shot was a friggin doozy. I had a huge adrenaline dump and really struggled on the first 2 shots - I shot an 8 and a 5. Being "7 down" from par after 2 targets was really disappointing, but I was able to regroup on target 3 and drilled an 11. That cooled me down and I went on to shoot 6 down the rest of the way. 187 was a respectable score, but I felt like I left some points out there.

Saturday I hit the practice range early before my tee time and I was on fire. I shot +6 over 14 targets and was stroking it (like when you're crunching drives straight down the middle in golf). That carried over well to the real range, which was a ball buster course - much more difficult than Friday's course. I felt great and was making great shots - I just struggled with some of the yardage judging. Some of these sets were things I'd just never seen before. Every shot was on the side of the mountain; one target going up, next target going back down. Rinse/repeat. I ended up with another 187, which I was thrilled with given the harder course. I checked the scores for that range - that was a top 10 score. :excited:

I ended up 35th out of 138 in the men's open class. Overall I'm thrilled with how I shot and learned a ton of lessons for next year. This was the best shooting performance I've had at a big national/world event. Once I get the yardage judging down, I think I can make some noise in this format. I can't wait until next year.
Not boring at all Ned, great read...congrats!

 
Congrats Ned on your shooting. Juxt those 800s are real fast, be careful with them.

On my end training during vacation was going pretty well until Friday when I started experiencing knee pain after my run. I think it is runner's knee, I tend to get this every few months in my left knee and after a day or two off from running it usually goes away. So I skipped my Sat recovery run and woke up Sun intending to run my scheduled 16. The knee felt much better but not quite 100% so I decided to skip it. I had a really tough time skipping my long run, once I get in the marathon training frame of mind I don't want to give in and miss any workouts. I am happy I took the extra day off, this morning I ran my easy 6 and the knee felt fine.

 
Week 9 in the books. Supposed to be a step-back week in the training calendar, but I'll be out of town fishing all next weekend, so the plan was to use this week as that step back week and run a full week last week. Did not work out. A bad week overall, from mindset to weather to just not feeling right.

Monday: Rest day

Tuesday: Stormed out. Started lightning and raining right when I walked in the door after work. :wall:

Wednesday: 6.25 Miles. 9:53 Pace. 152HR. 142SI. Actually pretty pleased with this run.

Thursday: 5.01 Miles. 9:40 Pace. 156HR. 151SI. Just decided to run this by feel. Getting really tired of the SI at this point.

Friday: 3.2 Miles. 10:18 Pace. 149HR. 159SI. Actually damn happy with this run. REALLY tired of the SI at this point.

Saturday: Stormed out. Lightning, thunder, and heavy rain at 6am when I woke up. Went back to bed.

Sunday: 14.51 Miles. 12.04 Pace. 158HR. SI154 at 5:45am. :rant: Had a bad feeling about this run as soon as I stepped out to grab the paper at 5am. The air was suffocating: the kind that just takes it away as soon as you step into it. The plan was 17 miles on this day. Made it 11 before the wheels started falling off. Ran/Walked the rest of the way home. I was running slow at mile 11: but my HR was in the high 160's and some 170's. At this point I knew I had to slow my HR down or I'd be lying down on the side of the road. Walked a bit to try and calm the HR down, and it took about a mile to even get to the low 150's. Finally got it to the mid 140's and started to run again. But could make it about .5 mile before my body was done. Rinse/repeat the rest of the way home. Body was done. Drained. Took a good bit of the day to feel ok, and still don't feel quite right today.

29.97 miles for the week.

I'm mildly concerned at this point for the marathon. My nutrition and hydration should have been good enough last week to get me through this run. Now I'm starting to wonder how the heck am I going to get through 26.2 miles. Now, I know the humidity plays a role in this, but I've been running for almost three years. I would think by now my fitness should be good enough to make it through these runs without the pain.

Starting to seriously wonder if I have something else going on with me. Bummed today.

 
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ChiefD - Don't let the heat/humidity fool you. 154 is no joke, let alone that was the SI when you started!! Was it sunny too? Spending 3 hours in that mess is going to be friggin' rough on everyone.

 
ChiefD - Don't let the heat/humidity fool you. 154 is no joke, let alone that was the SI when you started!! Was it sunny too? Spending 3 hours in that mess is going to be friggin' rough on everyone.
Hazy at the beginning, but full sun the last 4 miles or so. Had some shade along the sidewalk, but not enough to help much.

 
ChiefD - Don't let the heat/humidity fool you. 154 is no joke, let alone that was the SI when you started!! Was it sunny too? Spending 3 hours in that mess is going to be friggin' rough on everyone.
yep. you were smart about it. but it will still be a huge drain.

 
It will get better Chief, all this traing you're doing in the muck will pay off once the weather changes. Hang in there.

 
I wanted to try 15 again this afternoon to start getting ready for my pacing gig next month. Temps "only" in the low 70s, but near-100% humidity. No thanks.

 
ChiefD - Don't let the heat/humidity fool you. 154 is no joke, let alone that was the SI when you started!! Was it sunny too? Spending 3 hours in that mess is going to be friggin' rough on everyone.
I second this, for the past week or so I have been running with around 140-150 SI in the afternoon. This morning I had a meeting at 8AM so I had to head out the door by 6:30. It was about 60 degrees out and I cruised along at around 15-20s/mi faster than I have been running the past few afternoons.

 
Agree with everybody else. Chief, the training will show up in a big way with the first cool front.

Ned, that's awesome stuff. I know nothing about archery. I can't hit the toilet (according to worrierqueen), so things like aim and distance are foreign to me. Very interesting stuff and congrats on the great showing.

 
Thanks for talking me off the ledge. It's days like yesterday where I have an epiphany - along the lines of: I really hate this. :lol:

 
Along similar lines as gruecd, I realized during Worlds that I'm bordering on an unhealthy obsession with running. The short time away from running gave me an opportunity to take a step back and see just how obsessive I was about getting mileage in.

I'm tired and think I'm pushing the envelope with this training cycle. With 5 weeks to go until my marathon, I'm going to tap the breaks a bit. I've got little desire to follow the schedule I mapped out to where I hit the 90s for the next two weeks - I'm scaling that back to the 75-80 range for 2 weeks before tapering.

 
Ned I think you are making the right decision, 75-80 miles should be fine. You might need a new signature as you may be experiencing over-training. My opinion is that you were working to a very aggressive training schedule without having the base to support it, in fact out of everyone in this thread only Steve has the base to support what you were trying to do. I don’t think attempting this training during the summer did you any favors either, but we all know why you picked a Sept marathon.

Don’t get me wrong I think running more miles is the best way to improve marathon performance, but everyone has their limit. That limit can change over time.

 
Ned I think you are making the right decision, 75-80 miles should be fine. You might need a new signature as you may be experiencing over-training. My opinion is that you were working to a very aggressive training schedule without having the base to support it, in fact out of everyone in this thread only Steve has the base to support what you were trying to do. I don’t think attempting this training during the summer did you any favors either, but we all know why you picked a Sept marathon.

Don’t get me wrong I think running more miles is the best way to improve marathon performance, but everyone has their limit. That limit can change over time.
I'm just under-recovered ;)

I'm too lazy to go find it, but I knew this might happen when I decided to run Via. Each cycle I've pushed the mileage up and my body has responded well to that. I decided to push it again until my body said no. I think it's saying no now.

I've got the fitness right now to BQ again, so I just need to keep things going and stay healthy.

 
Juxtatarot said:
Ned - I knew something was up when I logged into Strava and didn't see a run for you this morning! You should do what you want to do, of course, but it seems odd to me not to push through with only two weeks before taper. I'm concerned that this will mess with you mentally during the race. (Assuming the race is still important to you.)
:lol: It stormed all morning - I'm sitting here in running gear waiting to get a conference call over with so I can go do 12.

I'm not jumping off a cliff; just realized how obsessed I got. I need more balance.

 
Juxtatarot said:
Ned - I knew something was up when I logged into Strava and didn't see a run for you this morning! You should do what you want to do, of course, but it seems odd to me not to push through with only two weeks before taper. I'm concerned that this will mess with you mentally during the race. (Assuming the race is still important to you.)
:lol: It stormed all morning - I'm sitting here in running gear waiting to get a conference call over with so I can go do 12.

I'm not jumping off a cliff; just realized how obsessed I got. I need more balance.
You captured that post for the minute before I deleted it! After reading your response to pbm, I got the impression it was an over-training issue but now I'm confused again. "Needing balance" shouldn't be an epiphany two weeks before a taper!

 
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Along similar lines as gruecd, I realized during Worlds that I'm bordering on an unhealthy obsession with running. The short time away from running gave me an opportunity to take a step back and see just how obsessive I was about getting mileage in.

I'm tired and think I'm pushing the envelope with this training cycle. With 5 weeks to go until my marathon, I'm going to tap the breaks a bit. I've got little desire to follow the schedule I mapped out to where I hit the 90s for the next two weeks - I'm scaling that back to the 75-80 range for 2 weeks before tapering.
You'll be fine. Just stay healthy and the BQ-5 is as good as yours.

But wait. ####. How the hell am I gonna skip your first Boston?! Ughhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

 
Is there a way to delete an activity from Strava? I accidentally started a second one on my TomTom after my run was over this morning, want to nuke the 0 mile entry.

 
Maybe this over training is contagious? Actually, I'm not positive I'm over training but I've experienced a weird heart rate spike at the beginning of my runs lately. I'll basically go from 70 to 150-170 with in the first quarter mile. My heart rate then settles back down to the low 140's by the start of the 2nd mile. I don't think it's a monitor issue either. It feels like I'm working harder than I should be.

The last time I experienced this kinda thing was right after my ablation surgery. Back then I came to the conclusion that it was caffeine related. So I cut out coffee before my morning run and it pretty much went away.

The only thing I can say I'm doing different now is taking in 2400mg of ibuprofen a day for some inflammation in my foot. Supposed to back off that in a couple of days.

Anyone experience anything similar?

 
Maybe this over training is contagious? Actually, I'm not positive I'm over training but I've experienced a weird heart rate spike at the beginning of my runs lately. I'll basically go from 70 to 150-170 with in the first quarter mile. My heart rate then settles back down to the low 140's by the start of the 2nd mile. I don't think it's a monitor issue either. It feels like I'm working harder than I should be.

The last time I experienced this kinda thing was right after my ablation surgery. Back then I came to the conclusion that it was caffeine related. So I cut out coffee before my morning run and it pretty much went away.

The only thing I can say I'm doing different now is taking in 2400mg of ibuprofen a day for some inflammation in my foot. Supposed to back off that in a couple of days.

Anyone experience anything similar?
Look at the wild fluctuations in the beginning. That's just garbage data. That happened to me frequently before I ditched the chest strap.

I also feel like I'm working harder the first few miles before I'm fully warmed up and loose.

 
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Maybe this over training is contagious? Actually, I'm not positive I'm over training but I've experienced a weird heart rate spike at the beginning of my runs lately. I'll basically go from 70 to 150-170 with in the first quarter mile. My heart rate then settles back down to the low 140's by the start of the 2nd mile. I don't think it's a monitor issue either. It feels like I'm working harder than I should be.

The last time I experienced this kinda thing was right after my ablation surgery. Back then I came to the conclusion that it was caffeine related. So I cut out coffee before my morning run and it pretty much went away.

The only thing I can say I'm doing different now is taking in 2400mg of ibuprofen a day for some inflammation in my foot. Supposed to back off that in a couple of days.

Anyone experience anything similar?
Look at the wild fluctuations in the beginning. That's just garbage data. That happened to me frequently before I ditched the chest strap.

I also feel like I'm working harder the first few miles before I'm fully warmed up and loose.
I hope you're right but it feel like more than just junk data. Obviously, I'm a little more sensitive to any funny heart fluctuations than most here because of my recent history. Gives me effing anxiety.

 
Maybe this over training is contagious? Actually, I'm not positive I'm over training but I've experienced a weird heart rate spike at the beginning of my runs lately. I'll basically go from 70 to 150-170 with in the first quarter mile. My heart rate then settles back down to the low 140's by the start of the 2nd mile. I don't think it's a monitor issue either. It feels like I'm working harder than I should be.

The last time I experienced this kinda thing was right after my ablation surgery. Back then I came to the conclusion that it was caffeine related. So I cut out coffee before my morning run and it pretty much went away.

The only thing I can say I'm doing different now is taking in 2400mg of ibuprofen a day for some inflammation in my foot. Supposed to back off that in a couple of days.

Anyone experience anything similar?
Look at the wild fluctuations in the beginning. That's just garbage data. That happened to me frequently before I ditched the chest strap.

I also feel like I'm working harder the first few miles before I'm fully warmed up and loose.
I hope you're right but it feel like more than just junk data. Obviously, I'm a little more sensitive to any funny heart fluctuations than most here because of my recent history. Gives me effing anxiety.
Understandable. And, of course, I'm just giving my unqualified opinion based on my past experiences. Aren't you getting a new monitor?

 
Maybe this over training is contagious? Actually, I'm not positive I'm over training but I've experienced a weird heart rate spike at the beginning of my runs lately. I'll basically go from 70 to 150-170 with in the first quarter mile. My heart rate then settles back down to the low 140's by the start of the 2nd mile. I don't think it's a monitor issue either. It feels like I'm working harder than I should be.

The last time I experienced this kinda thing was right after my ablation surgery. Back then I came to the conclusion that it was caffeine related. So I cut out coffee before my morning run and it pretty much went away.

The only thing I can say I'm doing different now is taking in 2400mg of ibuprofen a day for some inflammation in my foot. Supposed to back off that in a couple of days.

Anyone experience anything similar?
Look at the wild fluctuations in the beginning. That's just garbage data. That happened to me frequently before I ditched the chest strap.

I also feel like I'm working harder the first few miles before I'm fully warmed up and loose.
I hope you're right but it feel like more than just junk data. Obviously, I'm a little more sensitive to any funny heart fluctuations than most here because of my recent history. Gives me effing anxiety.
Understandable. And, of course, I'm just giving my unqualified opinion based on my past experiences. Aren't you getting a new monitor?
Actually, this is data from the new monitor. The first run when fine with no issues but the last 3 have had the hiccups. I guess it is possible that could be the issue. Maybe I should try the old chest strap tomorrow and see if it's an issue. It's so much more comfortable though.

 
Maybe this over training is contagious? Actually, I'm not positive I'm over training but I've experienced a weird heart rate spike at the beginning of my runs lately. I'll basically go from 70 to 150-170 with in the first quarter mile. My heart rate then settles back down to the low 140's by the start of the 2nd mile. I don't think it's a monitor issue either. It feels like I'm working harder than I should be.

The last time I experienced this kinda thing was right after my ablation surgery. Back then I came to the conclusion that it was caffeine related. So I cut out coffee before my morning run and it pretty much went away.

The only thing I can say I'm doing different now is taking in 2400mg of ibuprofen a day for some inflammation in my foot. Supposed to back off that in a couple of days.

Anyone experience anything similar?
Weird you mention this, I could have written this exact description about my last couple of runs. If you're on Strava check it out. Start in low 60s, warmup mile spikes into 170s then it plummets and levels off for the duration even though I pick up the pace. I wrote it off as an equipment issue. While I never feel good the first mile of any run I don't think its actually that high.

 
Maybe this over training is contagious? Actually, I'm not positive I'm over training but I've experienced a weird heart rate spike at the beginning of my runs lately. I'll basically go from 70 to 150-170 with in the first quarter mile. My heart rate then settles back down to the low 140's by the start of the 2nd mile. I don't think it's a monitor issue either. It feels like I'm working harder than I should be.

The last time I experienced this kinda thing was right after my ablation surgery. Back then I came to the conclusion that it was caffeine related. So I cut out coffee before my morning run and it pretty much went away.

The only thing I can say I'm doing different now is taking in 2400mg of ibuprofen a day for some inflammation in my foot. Supposed to back off that in a couple of days.

Anyone experience anything similar?
Weird you mention this, I could have written this exact description about my last couple of runs. If you're on Strava check it out. Start in low 60s, warmup mile spikes into 170s then it plummets and levels off for the duration even though I pick up the pace. I wrote it off as an equipment issue. While I never feel good the first mile of any run I don't think its actually that high.
Wow, that is crazy. Yeah, I just looked and it's eerily similar. It doesn't really make me feel any better since you've had the same problems with heart arrhythmias as me! :doh:

 
Sounds like a lot of us are hitting the late Summer wall.

Patience, fellas. Optimal running conditions will be here soon.

 
More personal stuff. Mom is back in the hospital so I missed running this morning. They are sending her to New Orleans for treatment that is not available here. I will be going along to sign papers and answer questions. I am going to try to bring some running clothes and my garmin, but I have no idea if I will get a chance to run.

 
MAC_32 said:
Sounds like a lot of us are hitting the late Summer wall.

Patience, fellas. Optimal running conditions will be here soon.
:yes: seriously guys, mix in some cycling, swimming, paddle board, surfing, racquetball, whatever. If you're not within a month or two of a major event, mix it up.

 
it's been a fun last 30 minutes.

- registered for the IM CHOO 70.3

- Told my wife we can start working on kid #5

 

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