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Ran a 10k - Official Thread (5 Viewers)

Sun: 18 with 10 at Marathon Pace with the MP miles avg 6:47 158. Feeling really good about this, for my previous three marathons my avg HR was 170, 163, and 167. Ran this fasted with no water during the run.
Great week but no water? :shock: Why?
I never carry water with me, and on my long runs I usually stop by my house or a water fountain along the trail I run on. I ran directly to the trail this morning and the water fountain is at the bottom of a significant hill. I didn't want to run any MP miles up the hill so I didn't hit the water fountain. The conditions were so good that I didn't need it.
damn. I can see doing that, maybe, with a very low SI and a MAF run, but with your pace? :eek:

how do you feel afterwards?
I felt fine and for all my other runs over 12 miles this summer I have stopped for some water, and I probably would have took some water today if it was more convenient but it wasn't so I didn't. I intended on weighing myself after the run but forgot.
Your post got me searching the Internet on hydration again...

Ultramarathoner Dean Karnazes says he drinks gallons of water while competing in events like the Badwater Ultramarathon, a 135-mile run across California’s scorching Death Valley. At November’s New York City Marathon, however, where temperatures were in the mid-40s, he drank only once: a half-cup of water near the 15-mile mark.
Boston Marathon winner Meb Keflezighi drinks 28 to 32 ounces of fluid during a 26.2-mile race, but says via email that he knows runners who have gone the distance without drinking a drop. He says he loses 3% to 4% of his 124-pound body weight during a marathon, depending on the climate.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/ease-up-on-the-water-during-that-marathon-1424715632

 
FUBAR - Congrats!! Looking forward to details.
thanks. I plan to post more tomorrow, but the keys to me:

- Swim isn't my strong suit, probably never will be. Wasn't horrible but could get better.

- We started in wave 3 of 7. Never got passed on the bike. Passed quite a few people.

- Got passed twice on the run, first was right out of the gate, by a relay team whose runner looked like an animal. Second was at the very end, by an 18 year old.

- The bike route was open to traffic. I didn't see any accidents but there were at least 4 times when I got stuck behind a car or truck which was stuck behind a cyclist. I could have passed, but didn't want to get killed in case the driver decided to pass right when I did.

 
Sun: 18 with 10 at Marathon Pace with the MP miles avg 6:47 158. Feeling really good about this, for my previous three marathons my avg HR was 170, 163, and 167. Ran this fasted with no water during the run.
Great week but no water? :shock: Why?
I never carry water with me, and on my long runs I usually stop by my house or a water fountain along the trail I run on. I ran directly to the trail this morning and the water fountain is at the bottom of a significant hill. I didn't want to run any MP miles up the hill so I didn't hit the water fountain. The conditions were so good that I didn't need it.
damn. I can see doing that, maybe, with a very low SI and a MAF run, but with your pace? :eek:

how do you feel afterwards?
I felt fine and for all my other runs over 12 miles this summer I have stopped for some water, and I probably would have took some water today if it was more convenient but it wasn't so I didn't. I intended on weighing myself after the run but forgot.
Your post got me searching the Internet on hydration again...

Ultramarathoner Dean Karnazes says he drinks gallons of water while competing in events like the Badwater Ultramarathon, a 135-mile run across Californias scorching Death Valley. At Novembers New York City Marathon, however, where temperatures were in the mid-40s, he drank only once: a half-cup of water near the 15-mile mark.
Boston Marathon winner Meb Keflezighi drinks 28 to 32 ounces of fluid during a 26.2-mile race, but says via email that he knows runners who have gone the distance without drinking a drop. He says he loses 3% to 4% of his 124-pound body weight during a marathon, depending on the climate.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/ease-up-on-the-water-during-that-marathon-1424715632
EP had an expert on last summer (I think) who said the same thing. The human body, if properly hydrated, can go a lot longer than we usually do. We just have to get used to it.

 
Great work by a lot of you this week. Nice podium FUBAR. :thumbup:

As for me, not a great week. My last remaining grandparent passed away this week, so a sporadic week as I had to travel to NW Illinois this weekend. Managed to get in 34.3 miles, and was able to get my 18 miler in on Saturday up there. An absolutely beautiful Saturday morning: crisp cool air and low dew point. A dream really.

As for my grandfather, I would be remiss not mentioning a few things about him. Captain Grant "Jack" Young was a true American Hero, retired from the Navy in 1970.

He was married to my grandmother for 70 years before she passed away a year ago. They met as neighbors when they were 8 years old. She was always the girl for him, and now he gets to be with her forever.

This was a great man. A classy man. Respectful to everyone. An American patriot. A World War II hero. The kind of man who remembered everything about everything. He was willing to share stories of war, but with always the respect of those he fought and those he fought with. His memory was so vivid he could remember conversations, and colors of men's eyes, and their stories.

His only fear was having to stand before God at Heaven's door and hope he was forgiven for being a part of that terrible war. The way he lived his life, I think he's ok.

He was my step-grandfather, and me and my brothers came into his life when I was about 11. Not once did he or my grandmother not treat us as blood. I will never forget that about them.

He was one of the men responsible for landing a torpedo bomb from his plane to sink the Japanese battleship Yamato, which effectively signaled the end of WW II. He was a career Navy man and pilot.

If you are to read more about him, here is some more information:

History

Navy Cross


Naval Career

Newspaper Article

He was a one of kind, and will be missed for sure. He died peacefully in his sleep at his farm in Illinois, just like his wife did, surrounded by all of his children.

 
Hey Chief - thanks for sharing those links about your grandfather. Seemed like he lived a full life but even still, it's especially sad to see a WWII vet pass. Sorry for your loss

 
Great work by a lot of you this week. Nice podium FUBAR. :thumbup:

As for me, not a great week. My last remaining grandparent passed away this week, so a sporadic week as I had to travel to NW Illinois this weekend. Managed to get in 34.3 miles, and was able to get my 18 miler in on Saturday up there. An absolutely beautiful Saturday morning: crisp cool air and low dew point. A dream really.

As for my grandfather, I would be remiss not mentioning a few things about him. Captain Grant "Jack" Young was a true American Hero, retired from the Navy in 1970.

He was married to my grandmother for 70 years before she passed away a year ago. They met as neighbors when they were 8 years old. She was always the girl for him, and now he gets to be with her forever.

This was a great man. A classy man. Respectful to everyone. An American patriot. A World War II hero. The kind of man who remembered everything about everything. He was willing to share stories of war, but with always the respect of those he fought and those he fought with. His memory was so vivid he could remember conversations, and colors of men's eyes, and their stories.

His only fear was having to stand before God at Heaven's door and hope he was forgiven for being a part of that terrible war. The way he lived his life, I think he's ok.

He was my step-grandfather, and me and my brothers came into his life when I was about 11. Not once did he or my grandmother not treat us as blood. I will never forget that about them.

He was one of the men responsible for landing a torpedo bomb from his plane to sink the Japanese battleship Yamato, which effectively signaled the end of WW II. He was a career Navy man and pilot.

If you are to read more about him, here is some more information:

History

Navy Cross

Naval Career

Newspaper Article

He was a one of kind, and will be missed for sure. He died peacefully in his sleep at his farm in Illinois, just like his wife did, surrounded by all of his children.
Thanks for sharing that. Great man he was.

 
Started running with my 12-year-old taking him through the Couch to 5K. We signed up for a 5K in October that's run by my older son's school.

 
45M for me while on vacation last week, a new high. Finished up with 12 (8:38/124) and 5 (7:26/136) over the weekend, happy with each of those.

I haven't been running with much of a plan the last few weeks, just trying to gradually bump up the mileage. With 9 weeks until my HM I'd like to get on a plan geared towards my sub 1:40 goal. Any suggestions?

 
45M for me while on vacation last week, a new high. Finished up with 12 (8:38/124) and 5 (7:26/136) over the weekend, happy with each of those.

I haven't been running with much of a plan the last few weeks, just trying to gradually bump up the mileage. With 9 weeks until my HM I'd like to get on a plan geared towards my sub 1:40 goal. Any suggestions?
IMO you should just keep on doing what you've been doing. You're getting the miles in and I love the aggressive runs you've added. Plus, you seem to be responding well to the training.

 
Rocketman Race Report

First, I'll start off with the fact that I woke up 90 minutes before I wanted to, at 3:15 am to the sound of water sprinklers hitting a wall or tarp. At first I thought my neighbor had his sprinklers going, so I thought about going next door. We never turned our sprinklers on, and the water company told us it would cost an additional payment to do so. I went outside and discovered it was ours. Still not sure how they got turned on, or why the timer was set for 3 am, but I unplugged the system. Went back to sleep for maybe 20 minutes.

Got up to the sound of thunder and rain. Not a good start for a tri. I don't mind running in it, but biking is different. Put my bike in the back of the highlander (instead of the bike rack) and headed out to the course. Long story short, they ended up delaying the start for 30 minutes due to being unable to put the buoys out on time. But, things cleared up and it was actually a very nice day for the race. Didn't really get hot until we were done.

Swim: They put slides in for us to use entering the water, as the river had rocks on the banks. We're in wave 3 (military and collegiate), with the colleges in full uniforms, chanting and cheering like it's the Rose Bowl. The guy I was hanging out with and I went to the back of the pack thinking these college kids had to be fast at least for the swim (turns out I was a midpacker but some of these guys are part dolphin). we crab-walk down the slide (I was hoping we would actually slide) and get ready. No big deal, just follow the kids as they create a path for us. Worked out alright, but I was more tired than I thought I'd be at the end of the swim. Fairly uneventful. 28:56, 2nd fastest military, ~18/45 for our wave.

Bike: With the rain, the plan was to be careful on the turns. Good route, Hilly but not too steep. Started passing people almost immediately out of the gate and never got passed. Ate a cliff bar 5 minutes in, had a gel at 35 minutes, and another gel at 1 hour. All was good until we got to the u-turn which made a few of us somewhat nervous with the wet road. That went alright but then cars started to get in the way. As mentioned before, I had to wait behind cars who were waiting behind cyclists 4 times. The cyclists seemed to forget they were supposed to stay right, so they'd be in the middle of the road, the cars would stay behind them, until eventually the rider got over and the car could pass. Safety first of course, so I'm glad the drivers didn't push their luck, but it was frustrating. Got back, took the shoes of on the bike a munute too early, but that's alright. 3rd fastest military, 12/45 for the wave.

Run: I was feeling surprisingly good here, perhaps because of the cars forcing me to rest some. But even as I was setting off at around a 7:15 pace, I got smoked by a runner who I found out later was part of a relay (so fresh when he passed me). Felt really good up to mile 4, staying a pretty consistent 7:05 pace. the course was out just less than 1 mile, back past the transition, out to mile 4, turn back and finish on the opposite side of the marina (we started on the far side). Miles 4-5.5 I just wanted to stay strong, then push. Around 5.5 I get passed by a dude, I look at his right calf and see he's 18. He must have been in wave 4. He has more kick left than I do so I didn't stay with him. 1st fastest military, 8/45 for the wave.

Compare this to last year, while I didn't do an Olympic, it was an international so almost the same thing. Keeping in mind, I had been training for IM Maryland so I was in better endurance shape and much stronger on the bike. I was probably more fatigued too.

Swim - 2 minutes faster (but there was a current which we went against and then with) I'll call this a win but it's hard to judge

Bike - 1:10 for 40k (21.1mph) vs. 1:16 for 45k (21.9 mph) slower this year

Run - 79 seconds or 13 seconds per mile faster.

Overall, I'll call it a good day and race. Plenty to learn from it but I paced it right, nutrition seems to have worked. I don't think I could have been much faster.

 
Awesome, FUBAR! Still amazed that you guys can run like that after swimming and biking. :hifive:

What branch was the #1 military?

 
Awesome, FUBAR! Still amazed that you guys can run like that after swimming and biking. :hifive:

What branch was the #1 military?
All 3 were Army. #1 is a flight surgeon, #3 a nurse. (#2 a lawyer)

ETA: I'm still not sure how much different it is on race day than a straight run would be, after 90 minutes or so. Legs feel different but they're not as beat up, in the same way anyway.

 
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Awesome race FUBAR! the swim leg of these things would kick my butt.

You reminded me that I had a full wipeout last week on my bike when I went out after rain. There is a wooden bridge that is essentialy the turnaround point for a there and back route I do (ie. furthest point from my house). I was going normal speed/ slow since I was making a turn. As soon as I got on that thing, WHOOP went the wheels from under me with no warning. My hand and knee took the worst of it. Briefly messed up the tire alignment. That bridge felt like walking on ice as I was adjusting my bike. Scary.

 
I'm up to my eyeballs in panicky clients, so I don't have a lot of time, but DAMN, you guys are killing the training!! Ned, Juxt, pbm, MAC....awesome work, guys!! And FUBAR, congrats!

 
Holy #### Chief, gramps was straight up American Hero, wow! Sorry for the loss but he's put in his time, glad it was peaceful for him & the family.

The rest of you can hug nuts, that is all.

 
I'm up to my eyeballs in panicky clients, so I don't have a lot of time, but DAMN, you guys are killing the training!! Ned, Juxt, pbm, MAC....awesome work, guys!! And FUBAR, congrats!
I echo this comment. And Chief, that was an awesome tribute to an inspiring man.

Another week, another run on just Saturday and Sunday. At least it was a glorious day Saturday. And on Sunday, I had to pick my wife up at the airport, then we had brunch, and by 4 p.m. I had consumed 3 beers - which is when I forced myself to go out and run, because I couldn't be that lame to not even run on Sunday.

Gonna try to get up and at 'em tomorrow morning, just to show myself I can do a weekday run before work.

 
Started running with my 12-year-old taking him through the Couch to 5K. We signed up for a 5K in October that's run by my older son's school.
:thumbup:

this was my plan at the beginning of the summer... and I've pissed away the entire summer.

congrats on the race and podium, Fubar. :thumbup:

and loved reading about Chief's granddad- [tips a 40]

 
Congrats Fubar on that three sport thing, sounds like a good race for you!

Ned, Juxt, pbm, MAC - you all just keep churning out great weeks.

My week ended on not such a great note - headed out Saturday morning to get in 20 with some good elevation, but at about mile seven I mis-stepped and my foot slipped off the trail and I tweaked my knee. Considering it was a nice 40'-50' drop I suppose it could have been worse, so there's that. I kept going and it wasn't feeling too bad, but about mile eleven I stopped to take in a view and eat a Bonk Breaker and after standing there for about 90 seconds when I started to go again my knee was totally stiff. So I just ran back down to the trail head and called it at 13 miles instead of pushing it.

I took Sunday off but managed a 6-miler today at lunch without any issues, so seems like the knee is ok.

I'm itching to get in a race again soon, and I'm actually on the waitlist for a local 50K on Saturday. I'm currently 13th (was 25th when I signed up 2 weeks ago), so not sure what my chances are but hoping to have that on Saturday. If not I may jump in a slightly less-local 50K on Sunday.

 
Very touching writeup about your Granddad Chief. He sounds like a bad ### and a hero. Sorry for your loss but also happy that you had such a great role model and a lot of time with him.

 
AAA - just do it. Took me a long while to convince myself to take time for my pursuits. My kids get the bulk of my time, but once in awhile I have to do something to maintain my sanity.
So - I did. I'm signed up for the sprint tri on Sept. 12th. Tri the Parks at John Tanner Park. Excited and nervous. Got to finish fixing up my bike but I'm committed now. :shock:

 
AAA - just do it. Took me a long while to convince myself to take time for my pursuits. My kids get the bulk of my time, but once in awhile I have to do something to maintain my sanity.
So - I did. I'm signed up for the sprint tri on Sept. 12th. Tri the Parks at John Tanner Park. Excited and nervous. Got to finish fixing up my bike but I'm committed now. :shock:
Awesome. Good for you!

 
Great Stuff, Chief.

Congrats Fubar!

Mom died peacefully this morning. I had the honor of being right beside her when she went.

I'm going for a run tomorrow morning and I'll be thinking of her. Cool front is coming through tonight.

 
AAA - just do it. Took me a long while to convince myself to take time for my pursuits. My kids get the bulk of my time, but once in awhile I have to do something to maintain my sanity.
So - I did. I'm signed up for the sprint tri on Sept. 12th. Tri the Parks at John Tanner Park. Excited and nervous. Got to finish fixing up my bike but I'm committed now. :shock:
:clap:

Sorry worrier, has to be s tough time. Glad you were with her.

 
Sorry for your loss, worrierking. My older sister was with my mom when she passed four years ago, and it has always given her - and us - great comfort to know mom was at peace at the end.

 
worrierking said:
Mom died peacefully this morning. I had the honor of being right beside her when she went.

I'm going for a run tomorrow morning and I'll be thinking of her. Cool front is coming through tonight.
Sorry for your loss, yet glad you were able to be there as the pain peacefully stopped. T&Ps for you and your family. And enjoy tomorrow's run, and I'm sure many more in the future, in your mom's memory.

 
So yeah, I'm pretty sure I've hit the training wall. My legs are dead and my easy runs are getting slower. I have run consecutive PR's for weekly mileage, so some fatigue is to be expected. But I feel like I'm at a crossroads right now. Stick to plan or reduce to something a little more manageable. Thoughts? :help:

TIA

 
So yeah, I'm pretty sure I've hit the training wall. My legs are dead and my easy runs are getting slower. I have run consecutive PR's for weekly mileage, so some fatigue is to be expected. But I feel like I'm at a crossroads right now. Stick to plan or reduce to something a little more manageable. Thoughts? :help:

TIA
Take a step back week this week and reassess next week. Something in the range of 40-45 should help you quite a bit.

How are you sleeping? Any chance to sneak in a nap or two?

 

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