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I'm hoping it was both. There's no way I hold that pace for an hour, but I think I would have made it 5. I didn't even know I went a full 4 until afterwards. I knew it was 25 minutes and change, but figured it was closer to 3.5 miles. Either way, I'm trying not to let it inflate my expectations for my St. Patty's 5 miler, but after yesterday (which had some snow/ice components too) that'll be difficult.
Missing a few days or a week won't cut into your fitness much at all. Better to be patient, hard as that is.
The more you race, the more you get a sense of how hard you can push yourself ...the more you build confidence in your racing. Way to go!!!
Hi all, sorry for not being around for the past couple of weeks. I made a decision to take on more responsibilities at work that ended up being more time consuming than I expected. (then again, I am sure almost everyone here can relate, so I am not going to ##### about it, part of growing up)
Whoa, this is so awesome. Can you start (or someone start for you) a Go Fund Me up without harming your amateur status to defray some of the cost? I would be so in to invest in this dream. Either wayHi all, sorry for not being around for the past couple of weeks. I made a decision to take on more responsibilities at work that ended up being more time consuming than I expected. (then again, I am sure almost everyone here can relate, so I am not going to ##### about it, part of growing up)
I was going through the thread and trying to catch up on the last 2-3 weeks I've missed before I make a big personal announcement on the running front, and it looks like MAC ran a huge PR at a local 10K and there is an impending showdown at Broad Street. (which is a bucketlist race of mine, but I can't run it this year due to the latest curveball I have been thrown in my spring racing plan). Looks like this year's Boston marathon crew is putting together some solid training as well.
I am going to piggyback off of Triman's post above since it's related to some huge news I got about a month ago, but I have finally done enough research/follow-up/prep and my training is coming around again that I am now comfortable announcing that I am going to follow through with the opportunity of a lifetime.
So I was born in Taiwan and actually moved to the United States when I was 9, and became a naturalized citizen in 2004 at the age of 22. At the time I was a recent college graduate and no plans of running competitively again, so when I was told that U.S. did not recognize dual citizenship with Taiwan I just nodded my head and accepted it as a fact. Well, the weekend of the Houston marathon a friend told me about a dual citizen of Taiwan/U.S that had recently represented Taiwan at the Junior/Youth world championships in 2015 and also competed at USATF junior nationals. My father and I did some research and made a few phone calls after the race and we got confirmation that I am indeed still eligible to represent Taiwan in international competition. Long story short, I am going to try to get an Olympic Marathon qualifier (2:19:00) their qualification window closes, and with only one other Taiwanese national with the standard so far I may have a shot of going to Rio if I get it. I was planning on going for it at Boston, but the kicker is the time has to be run on a IAAF-certified course, and Boston is out. (well, you can get a qualifier if you finish top 10 in that race since it's an IAAF gold label race, but the only way that's happening is if some natural disaster prevented all the Africans from making the trip). The IAAF-certification requirement also pretty much knocks out every race in the U.S. this spring (unreliable conditions, hilly courses, lack of competition). I got into a coupe of fast races in Europe in mid-April, so I'll be putting my money where my mouth is and spending a nice chunk of savings to go chase the time there in a couple of months.
to see how this plays out.
Whoa, this is so awesome. Can you start (or someone start for you) a Go Fund Me up without harming your amateur status to defray some of the cost? I would be so in to invest in this dream. Either way
Whoa, this is so awesome. Can you start (or someone start for you) a Go Fund Me up without harming your amateur status to defray some of the cost? I would be so in to invest in this dream. Either way
Appreciate it. I haven't been running as much as I've wanted to over the last 6 weeks or so and this 8k reminded me of just how much I get out of these things. I did my last official 5k in 34 and change so my mile average can be better. I have another 5k in April and hoping to get under an 11 minute mile. That would be a good time for me. If you look at me, you'd never think I can run at at all, but I like being stealthy. Here's a reference pic: Osaurus post Gasparilla 8ktri-man 47 said:
I would run the 26 and hang with my buddy. A marathon is still serious business, and as time goes on hanging out with friends becomes more rare.
Steve, as always you're inspirational. It's fun watching from afar as you pursue your dreams.
So I'm in sort of a conundrum. (although that might be too harsh a word)
The Mt. Mitchell challenge and black mountain marathon races are this weekend. I'm registered for the marathon but Bass and I were discussing swapping (pretty sure Bass could just run the 26 without swapping but the swap allowed me to do the challenge). I'm pretty sure I could finish the challenge but would be tore up afterwards and probably take around 7 hours (maybe longer?). The races take place near the home of one of my best friends I haven't had a chance to hang out with much in the past few years and we'll hit Asheville afterwards, presuming I can walk.
If I do the marathon I'll be in a much better position to enjoy the weekend with a good buddy. If I do the challenge, I'm expecting to not be able to enjoy Saturday night. Long term satisfaction might be higher with the 40, but I'm rather looking forward to hanging out on a guys' night - which I haven't had in a long time. Of course, all of you will probably tell me to do the 40... truly, what would you do?
I'm leaning this way. Not to get into personal stuff here, but having a good night out would do my psyche some good.
For sure.
Would be an easy choice for me to do the 26, but I get the impression you're wired differently than most. I mean that in a good way. But like Chief said as you get older the chNces to spend quality time with old friends are harder to come by. And 26 shouldn't leave you feeling unfulfilled on the running front.
true, and a sub 4 would have been top 3 in my age group last year. So there would be a goal.
be careful! it sounds like you're being smart, but if you need to break off the 20 to prevent injury, it's well worth doing.
Thanks for the support as always guys. I got a couple of jokes from close friends about how my "consolation prize" for not qualifying for the U.S. trials may end up being going to Rio. (and also Europe). I am set on the financial front, the upside of balancing an office job with my training is that I don't have a lot of time/ways to spend my paycheck other than bills/food and running trip. Plus, my wife is talking about making the trip out of makeup anniversary trip that we didn't take a couple of years ago, so I am definitely not going to use a gofundme for that.
Yeah, his 12 "tempo" miles on Thursday are less than a minute per mile away from his Sunday long run pace. And @tri-man 47 isn't 155 a little lower than your marathon pace HR?
Yes, Juxt, marathon average would be in the mid 160s. Ideal pattern is mid/high 150s for 10 miles+, creeping through the 160s for 10 miles, then 170s and gutting it to the end. I was just touching 160 at the end of the 12 mile run (and then only because I picked up a bit at the end). Implication, as pbm notes: In a rested state, I can theoretically start with 7:40 or better (due to the downhill nature of Boston's first 16). Then I hold a good pace through the hill sequence before pulling the motivational tricks to finish strong over the final 5 miles.
Steve, as always you're inspirational. It's fun watching from afar as you pursue your dreams.
So I'm in sort of a conundrum. (although that might be too harsh a word)
The Mt. Mitchell challenge and black mountain marathon races are this weekend. I'm registered for the marathon but Bass and I were discussing swapping (pretty sure Bass could just run the 26 without swapping but the swap allowed me to do the challenge). I'm pretty sure I could finish the challenge but would be tore up afterwards and probably take around 7 hours (maybe longer?). The races take place near the home of one of my best friends I haven't had a chance to hang out with much in the past few years and we'll hit Asheville afterwards, presuming I can walk.
If I do the marathon I'll be in a much better position to enjoy the weekend with a good buddy. If I do the challenge, I'm expecting to not be able to enjoy Saturday night. Long term satisfaction might be higher with the 40, but I'm rather looking forward to hanging out on a guys' night - which I haven't had in a long time. Of course, all of you will probably tell me to do the 40... truly, what would you do?
Should be a blast.
Yeah, I've been waffling back and forth on this one. A month ago, I was ready to run one. Now, not so sure.
I hope you get better soon and you get your mojo back. This thread is a lot more fun when you are chasing after PRs. I am afraid your training guilt is only going to get worse this summer when you see Hang10 working his way to a sub 3 and FUBAR getting a BQ. You could be on that wave.I've lost 6# over the past week thanks to this stupid friggin' stomach bug that won't go away. Praying I'm turning the corner today. It's the first morning I haven't had to spray. :X :X
The guilt about my lackluster winter is starting to weigh on me.
I, too, would like to see Ned return from namby-pamby land and get back on his horse.
I'll be back. But you guys have fun with your 26.2 madness. 
Meh. You will go out this weekend and run some crazy ### run like 12 miles at a 7:55 pace. With a HR of 135.I've lost 6# over the past week thanks to this stupid friggin' stomach bug that won't go away. Praying I'm turning the corner today. It's the first morning I haven't had to spray. :X :X
The guilt about my lackluster winter is starting to weigh on me.
I keep thinking about hating running last summer when the humidity was like running in soup.
Just do it. :swoosh:I keep thinking about hating running last summer when the humidity was like running in soup.
But dammit, I look at those HR numbers I posted yesterday, and I hate to give up now. I've made a ton of progress over the last couple of years.
I do have a couple of things working for me this year though. My work released a new benefit this year, that after 5 years of being here you get a 30 day paid sabbatical. I've decided to take mine the last week of July and the first three weeks of August.
So I will have some serious free time to pile up some miles. Well hell, now I'm talking myself into it again.
