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Ran a 10k - Official Thread (8 Viewers)

I need to call in about mine... not sure if they will do anything or not... while umpiring a baseball game a couple weeks ago, I took a foul ball off the wrist and have 2 little places on the screen that are messed up. doesn't stop it from working correctly but is a huge PITA when the display is right on one/both of those spots.


I'm curious how they respond.
Yeah, let me know too. Their corporate office is about 8 miles from my house and if they don't respond appropriately I will run over there, barge in, and shake my fist at them in an aggressive manner.

 
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Wow, what a beautiful morning. Let the dogs out before my run and went back inside to put on a long sleeve shirt after feeling the mid-50s temp.

Did an average 4 miles overall, but was feeling so good at the end that I lengthened my stride and actually "ran" the last mile, which was a nice departure from the usual shuffling old man trot I've been deploying since getting back into the routine in mid-August. Ran the 4th mile in 8:23, which is easily the fastest mile I've done by at least 30 seconds in a year-plus. Best part is it felt good, like I could have kept going at that pace, and not like I was blowing myself up. Looking forward to a 10-miler on Sunday.

 
Wow, what a beautiful morning. Let the dogs out before my run and went back inside to put on a long sleeve shirt after feeling the mid-50s temp.

Did an average 4 miles overall, but was feeling so good at the end that I lengthened my stride and actually "ran" the last mile, which was a nice departure from the usual shuffling old man trot I've been deploying since getting back into the routine in mid-August. Ran the 4th mile in 8:23, which is easily the fastest mile I've done by at least 30 seconds in a year-plus. Best part is it felt good, like I could have kept going at that pace, and not like I was blowing myself up. Looking forward to a 10-miler on Sunday.
I just searched and didn't see it on strava; that means it didn't happen.

 
I just searched and didn't see it on strava; that means it didn't happen.
You must have missed my Garmin posting in which I lament the non-synchitude of my 2008 Forerunner 205. Have a feeling that situation might not be resolved until Christmas 

 
I know it's still a week away, but right now the forecast (upper 60s to lower 70s and humid) is NOT looking conducive to racing the Chicago Half Marathon next weekend.  Gonna keep an eye on it, but I'm not super inclined to spend $135 race fee plus hotel, gas, etc., to struggle in the heat and humidity.
Officially bagging the half.  I know a lot of you guys will laugh at this, but it's going to be temps in the 60s and very humid (with chance of rain), and it's just not worth me spending $500+ to run a sub-optimal race. 

Can't wait to see what kind of workout Coach puts together for me instead knowing we need a big/challenging effort here...

 
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Officially bagging the half.  I know a lot of you guys will laugh at this, but it's going to be temps in the 60s and very humid (with chance of rain), and it's just not worth me spending $500+ to run a sub-optimal race. 

Can't wait to see what kind of workout Coach puts together for me instead knowing we need a big/challenging effort here...
just googled the Indy weather for next Saturday (10/5). Right now says mostly sunny with 69/53 high/low and about 55% humidity. Sounds pretty good to me.

 
Officially bagging the half.  I know a lot of you guys will laugh at this, but it's going to be temps in the 60s and very humid (with chance of rain), and it's just not worth me spending $500+ to run a sub-optimal race. 

Can't wait to see what kind of workout Coach puts together for me instead knowing we need a big/challenging effort here...
I think you'll benefit if you face your fear of racing in anything north of frigid conditions, but also don't think now's the right time given those circumstances.

 
I think you'll benefit if you face your fear of racing in anything north of frigid conditions, but also don't think now's the right time given those circumstances.
I don't know how else to say this.  It's not FEAR.  It's physiological.  :shrug:

 
Focus your energy on tiring yourself out in front of this weekend's long run and don't worry about that half until at least sometime during next week - and probably later.
Yeah, that's been the plan. I ran 16.5 on Saturday, umped baseball games and did yard work Sunday, ran 10 on Monday, 6 yesterday and 5 today. My legs are definitely feeling it. I have a baseball game to do tonight, will run again tomorrow, then likely have the day off Friday before doing a really long run Saturday. 

Really care most about being ready for 11/9 way more than about a time in a HM on 10/5. 

 
That said, I know I'm in better shape now than March/May when I did the last 2 races so still tempted to think about a PR. Just not sure how much help versus damage I do by doing that rather than just using it as more a training run and being ready for the full... 

 
I don't know how else to say this.  It's not FEAR.  It's physiological.  :shrug:
Everyone responds to every set of conditions differently. Do warmer conditions impact you more than others? Yeah, probably. As much as you think it does? Probably not. You have to embrace that suck to really find out though. I'm 100% sure that if you practiced in those conditions and did it with the right mindset that you'd do things in those conditions you never thought were possible. You have to be willing to do that though. You haven't, so of course racing in those conditions now would go poorly.

 
Yeah, that's been the plan. I ran 16.5 on Saturday, umped baseball games and did yard work Sunday, ran 10 on Monday, 6 yesterday and 5 today. My legs are definitely feeling it. I have a baseball game to do tonight, will run again tomorrow, then likely have the day off Friday before doing a really long run Saturday. 

Really care most about being ready for 11/9 way more than about a time in a HM on 10/5. 
Not sure what you have left in terms of long runs, but if it's me I would try and get in 6 days a week if you can until the taper. Nothing longer than 16 or 17 on the weekends - you've already done the 20 miler at this point. Build on those tired legs. 

As for the race, Mac is right. To me, that's dangerously close to the marathon to actually race it. 

 
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Yeah, that's been the plan. I ran 16.5 on Saturday, umped baseball games and did yard work Sunday, ran 10 on Monday, 6 yesterday and 5 today. My legs are definitely feeling it. I have a baseball game to do tonight, will run again tomorrow, then likely have the day off Friday before doing a really long run Saturday. 

Really care most about being ready for 11/9 way more than about a time in a HM on 10/5. 
Run Friday too. Maximize how much Saturday will hurt. Rest Sunday.

No schtick.

 
That said, I know I'm in better shape now than March/May when I did the last 2 races so still tempted to think about a PR. Just not sure how much help versus damage I do by doing that rather than just using it as more a training run and being ready for the full... 
Mentally, treat it like you would any other race. Just don't taper for it. I'd even plan to do something taxing mid-week next week, but that's something to tackle after this week's work comes and goes. The priority race is in November and you're playing catch up. No time to focus plans on anything but it right now. But you can still race this thing. And you may surprise yourself with how fast you still run it anyway.

 
The big thing for me is still wanting to go 20+ again before the marathon. I figure I can either do that Saturday or I can do it on 10/12 (or theoretically both). I kind of want to do it this weekend and see how it feels. But kind of also like "just" going like 18 Saturday and then 20 or so on 10/12. 

 
On the bad news front, I am going to have to bail on Rehoboth.  My son is in an MLS academy league and has a game at 11 against Philly Union.  I contemplated for a while trying to make both, but it just won't work.  Half marathons will always be there, these times watching my son are pure gold that I refuse to miss out on.

I have a 10 miler on the schedule for 10/27 - I still plan on running that one and will make that my main focus now.  I'll try to find other races to squeeze in afterwards.
We’ll miss you, but I am not surprised that you’re making the right decision. 

Congrats on your son playing in the academy league, I recently just learned about those teams and how high school soccer isn’t even taken seriously around here anymore.

 
Mentally, treat it like you would any other race. Just don't taper for it. I'd even plan to do something taxing mid-week next week, but that's something to tackle after this week's work comes and goes. The priority race is in November and you're playing catch up. No time to focus plans on anything but it right now. But you can still race this thing. And you may surprise yourself with how fast you still run it anyway.
I'm not terribly far behind the plan I mapped out to start. Maybe that was a conservative plan or something but I'm not too far off what I hoped to be doing. According to the plan I had downloaded, I have been way ahead of that schedule. But I modified it quite a bit based on info from here to make it a much more aggressive plan. Other than you guys scaring the crap out of me, I feel like I'm in pretty good shape for this thing. That's not to say it will be easy or anything, but I feel like I'm on track to be able to tackle this. 

 
The big thing for me is still wanting to go 20+ again before the marathon. I figure I can either do that Saturday or I can do it on 10/12 (or theoretically both). I kind of want to do it this weekend and see how it feels. But kind of also like "just" going like 18 Saturday and then 20 or so on 10/12. 
Just speaking from my own experience, I get that bypassing 20 miles is a huge mental threshold. And you've done that. 

With my last cycle the longest run I had was 16. And proceeded to have my best race ever. 

Everyone is different, so not sure what to tell you. You know your body better than us. 

 
Just speaking from my own experience, I get that bypassing 20 miles is a huge mental threshold. And you've done that. 

With my last cycle the longest run I had was 16. And proceeded to have my best race ever. 

Everyone is different, so not sure what to tell you. You know your body better than us. 
My first 20 miler felt like a failure - like it was really an 18 miler with me just dying for the last 2. So doing it again but doing it successfully will be a huge mental boost. If I can go out and do 20 or 21 and feel like I "nailed it!" then it will mean a lot as I think about adding on even more to actually do the full thing.

 
When I did the 20, I actually went to the 11 mile mark before turning around - I thought I could just la-di-da a 22 miler instead of "just 20". When I hit 20, I thought "maybe". By 20.25 or so I decided a nice 2 mile walk back to the car was a better idea and I'm not sure I could have made myself start running again if I had to - maybe if something started chasing me but even that isn't a given.

 
When I did the 20, I actually went to the 11 mile mark before turning around - I thought I could just la-di-da a 22 miler instead of "just 20". When I hit 20, I thought "maybe". By 20.25 or so I decided a nice 2 mile walk back to the car was a better idea and I'm not sure I could have made myself start running again if I had to - maybe if something started chasing me but even that isn't a given.
What is your nutrition plan for the 20 miler?

 
What is your nutrition plan for the 20 miler?
Well, it's to make sure I don't go off the rails on my eating the whole week before again! If you mean during the week, I have a pretty good diet going for general daily eating. If you mean before/during the run, I always have a couple of cliff bars, a banana and a healthy dose of water in the morning before going to run. During the run, I have been doing gummy chews about 1 per mile +/- with moderate amounts of water to wash it down. I have some gatorade mix things to add to my water bottles for added "electrolytes" this time around. 

But a big part will be not "falling off the wagon" food wise this time around. Last one was done on the Saturday after we moved my daughter to college and I at like crap all week long before that.

 
We’ll miss you, but I am not surprised that you’re making the right decision. 

Congrats on your son playing in the academy league, I recently just learned about those teams and how high school soccer isn’t even taken seriously around here anymore.
Thanks!  And yup - school soccer is dying on the vine. 

 
Geez, so much going-on in here with the fall racing season upon us.

Good luck with the training guys and can't want to do some race stalking and read your RRs after.

@The Iguana, I agree with the folks here that your marathon is the focus, and the HM PR is a nice-to-have.  Don't taper for the HM.  You can get the HM PR down the road.  

@SteelCurtain congrats on the BQ.  I saw on Strava that it took you nine marathons before getting your BQ.  Gives me some hope that maybe I can work my 3:56 time down to a BQ by the time I'm 55!  :)

@gruecd time to move to Canada.  Every morning I'm running in 32F-50F temps.  In a few weeks that will get much colder but it sounds like something you could handle!

@SFBayDuck, haven't seen much of you and Summit on Strava lately.  Just busy with work?  Any race plans?  You're falling short on your duties of running cool #### so that I can live vicariously through you!

Not too much to report on my end.  Ran my first 30K since the Calgary marathon (May) yesterday.  I've done some longer trail runs (measured by time/elevation) but no actual 30Ks.  It's been a ~year since I last ran to work, and interesting to see some improvement in the numbers.  I ran it in 2:46 this year compared to 3:11 last year.  By the end, I was ready to be done, but not crushed like some of my prior 30Ks.  For today's ER, I could definitely feel yesterday's run in my legs, but my HR came in really good at 132.

 
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I had just a brutal time during my 9 miles yesterday - hot, dead legs and my knee wasn’t happy.  I got through it though so that’s a positive.

 
@JuxtatarotI noticed you haven't run yet today, are you feeling any better since Sunday's run?
Yes, just got back from a run.  I took the week off work and didn't need to get out early.  Thanks for asking.

I'm feeling better which has been typical.  I just sometimes feel bad when I'm pushing it.  I'm not too worried about it.  If it starts acting up doing the marathon, I'll just run through it the best I can.  The pain is more on the annoying side than on the intolerable side.

 
Im a mess

I cant swim (shoulder), I cant run or bike (right knee), I can barely do any strength training due to the shoulder and knee.

In all seriousness, I feel lost.  For the past 3 years I have been training diligently.  Usually with an injury I have a different discipline to work with.  However, I got nothing.

Im getting a PT referral and heading to a sports center.  We will see what they say, but in general im looking for them to tell me what I can/cant do exercise wise.  That said, im not expecting much from them except "dont do it if it hurts".  I have a wife who is a PT and im tired of hearing it.  That isnt a plan, that isnt leadership.  Im kinda sour on the medical field in general (sorry @gianmarco)

#pityparty

 
So I sent them a I'm really disappointed email after this post.  I told them I'll deal with the bugs vs spending another $160 on a device that's 2 months out of warranty.

Lo and behold I got this from them today:

:thumbup:   :pickle:  
In all seriousness, this is why I bought their stock.  They have decent dividends and Im up 73%.

 
Im a mess

I cant swim (shoulder), I cant run or bike (right knee), I can barely do any strength training due to the shoulder and knee.

In all seriousness, I feel lost.  For the past 3 years I have been training diligently.  Usually with an injury I have a different discipline to work with.  However, I got nothing.

Im getting a PT referral and heading to a sports center.  We will see what they say, but in general im looking for them to tell me what I can/cant do exercise wise.  That said, im not expecting much from them except "dont do it if it hurts".  I have a wife who is a PT and im tired of hearing it.  That isnt a plan, that isnt leadership.  Im kinda sour on the medical field in general (sorry @gianmarco)

#pityparty
#### man. Have you tried any sports massage to get things moving to stimulate recovery?  I know nothing of how long it takes to recover from an Ironman or if you’re injured or just temporarily broken. Good luck - hopefully rest is the key and you just suck at rest. 

 
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Im a mess

I cant swim (shoulder), I cant run or bike (right knee), I can barely do any strength training due to the shoulder and knee.

In all seriousness, I feel lost.  For the past 3 years I have been training diligently.  Usually with an injury I have a different discipline to work with.  However, I got nothing.

Im getting a PT referral and heading to a sports center.  We will see what they say, but in general im looking for them to tell me what I can/cant do exercise wise.  That said, im not expecting much from them except "dont do it if it hurts".  I have a wife who is a PT and im tired of hearing it.  That isnt a plan, that isnt leadership.  Im kinda sour on the medical field in general (sorry @gianmarco)

#pityparty
The rule of thumb is to take (you get) a day off for each hour of effort, so you've earned a lengthy layoff here!  You trained diligently for 3 years and then accomplished your goal.  Be glad; be proud.  Imagine how you'd feel if you'd have bagged it late in the bike or during the marathon!  No need for pity.  You did something incredible, and if that results in a break for a couple of months - take it.  You earned it, BMF.  You earned it, Ironman.

 
The rule of thumb is to take (you get) a day off for each hour of effort, so you've earned a lengthy layoff here!  You trained diligently for 3 years and then accomplished your goal.  Be glad; be proud.  Imagine how you'd feel if you'd have bagged it late in the bike or during the marathon!  No need for pity.  You did something incredible, and if that results in a break for a couple of months - take it.  You earned it, BMF.  You earned it, Ironman.
All of this. 

 
I'm at the point I hate writing these, but since I love reading them, I'll do my part...

Hokie Half Marathon Race Report (going to barrow Juxt’s format)

This is a half marathon in Blacksburg, VA and VA Tech campus vicinity, probably about one half road and one half greenway.  My son is an aerospace senior at VA Tech (look at how awesome my son is) and invited me up to run this with him.  By with him, I mean we ride to the start together and he finishes a half an hour sooner than me.  He ran a PR 1:44 with 20 miles of training for this event.

Weather was OK.  Temperature was probably in the low 60s to start but warmer as the sun came up.  No wind to speak of other than what was coming out my ####.  Day before prep was horrible.  Big lunch at a Mediterraneanplace, following by a hour at the skeet range. It was parents weekend so we didn’t get seated for a Mexican dinner until after 9.  I grossly over ate.  In bed late and up at 5:30 am.  Took two dumps and a third at the porta-johns.  Still didn’t feel like that issue was resolved.

Looking around before the start, I wasn't too impressed with the other runners.  It's a large half relative to what I’m used to.  There were roughly 1200 finishers.  There were only a handful of runners that I thought might possibly lift on occasion.  Even up front, they just looked like starving, Bud Select nursing runners.  It appeared that most of them needed a warm up run to boost their confidence.  I just knocked out a set of pushups to set the tone.  Sorry if that comes across dickish, but that's what I always do at races and I'm usually a good first glance judging.  I moved to the back because I wanted the opportunity to embarrass as many people as possible with my poor running form as I passed them.

This was only my second half marathon. Previous was this spring with a 2:20 finish time.  Earlier in the week I had pushed to do a 2:29 half.  My goal was to break 2:20 (10:43 pace) even though nothing in the last 6 months indicated that was likely.  The plan was to knock out a couple of 10 minute miles and then bank some 10:15 to 10:30 miles.  That would give me enough time to finish with 11:00-11:15 minute miles and break 2:20. I had not tapered for this event running two training halfs and 9 miler the week of.

Being a VA Tech event the gun goes off to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkwedgEH3gsskip to 2:45 if you are time challenged, but the whole thing is a great watch.  About 30 seconds after the gun we start to jog to the line only to come to a standstill 10 seconds later.  From there it was a walk to the start line.

Mile 1 9:53 

Wow it was crowded.  Not much if any room to pass, shoulder to shoulder.  With this mile having a 100 ft of ascent and no descent, I feared the worse and expected an 11:00 mile.  I was shocked when my watch beeped at the mile mark and my time was under 10 minutes.  Looking up the road, there were about 800 of us in the lead group, a couple of hundred of us pudgy guys deemed to have the same time (peleton) as the leader in the cycling world.

Mile 2 9:33

All downhill (69 ft) made for a fast mile. Passed a few people and my heart rate was in low zone 1.  It was still very crowded so the passes were dicey and I mostly chose to sit tight and conserve energy.  When 9:33 rang up on the watch I was shocked.  Three weeks ago this was my mile interval pace with my heart rate pegged.

Mile 3 9:51

The lead runners were now out of sight so this pudgy guy was officially dropped from the lead group.  10 ft up, 39 down this mile.  This pace was faster that I wanted to go.  It was faster than PR pace and I'm not in PR shape.  However, I was feeling OK and the competitive juices were flowing.  That wasn’t all that was flowing as the gas started to kick in in earnst.  It wasn’t that dry gas, it was that sloppy gas where you hope its not running down your leg.  I was bloated enough that I had to trust it and just dusted the runners behind me on and off the rest of the day.

Mile 4 9:45

The downhill start was now in the rearview, 40 up, 20 down this mile.  Things clear enough where passing was possible and I took the hills as an opportunity to start picking off people.  The watched beeped with a 9:45 and I gained confidence that I could break 2:20.  Now I just a handful of miles under 11:00 and I had banked enough time to limp home and be in good shape.

Mile 5: 10:08

69 down, 30 up on this mile as we crammed ourselves from the road to a greenway.  It was shoulder to shoulder again and I had to check up on the downhills to avoid running over a bunch of little dudes.  Towards the end of this mile it was flat and my legs started feeling heavy. Spent the back half of this mile alternating thoughts between wondering when I was going to blow up from going out to fast and when I was going to crap myself.

Mile 6: 10:25

There was some increase in elevation this mile and it was freaking awesome (89 up, 20 down).  I slowed down, but was still running when others were starting to walk the hills.  I decided I would push the hills for all I was worth and recover on the down hills and started passing droves of people.  Despite this being my slowest mile of the race, the legs are feeling better.  I may be a pudgy SOB, but my legs have power for hammering short hills. 

Mile 7: 9:57

Finally, the aid station with the GUs.  Us pudgy guys need to feed to keep the engine running. 30 up, 20 down but I think the watch was light on this.  The fuel pick me up had me back under 10 min pace.  The mental calculations were going nuts as 12 min pace had me beating goal and now I was trying to run numbers on what was needed for 2:15 finish.

Mile 8: 9:48

40 ft of up and 80 glorious feet down.  GU is kicking in and I post my third fastest mile.

Mile 9: 10:12

Sort of a defining mile in this event. A very hilly mile including an 85 ft climb up Chicken Hill. Chicken Hill looked like a wall, straight the entire way so you see the carnage.  5 to 1 walkers to runners.  I vowed to run the whole freaking hill and pass more people than I can count.  As soon as I crest this ##### my legs are feeling great and I start motoring.  I’m thrilled to have this behind me.

Mile 10: 10:08

A choppy mile with one up and down after another.  I remember throttling back here as 2:15 was now quite doable as long as I didn’t do anything stupid.

Mile 11: 9:25

This mile was 80 ft up followed by 40 ft down.  Legs are feeling even better and it’s giddy up time. People left and right to pick off.  Course has been running .01 long every mile like clock work.  Watch beeps and numbers say I have an outside shot to run this event under a 10 min pace.

Mile 12: 9:21

The downhill continues with another 65 ft of drop. Course has tightened up on the shoulder of the main road where it was difficult to pass at times.  I’m pushing but still feel in control.  It’s been miles since I’ve been passed.

Mile 13: 10:03

Well it’s finally here.  The hill my son told me would crush my soul.  He’s run this event and shared his story of carnage.  105 ft climb in just over a ½ mile.  Looks like it was an 11:00 pace for me up this but I did enough on the rest of the mile to clock a 10:03 average.  Untold numbers of people passed on this hill  

remaining .23 on watch at 1m23s, 6 min pace

I was feeling jacked here.  Quick calculation said breaking 2:10 wasn’t possible, but I was going to give it my best effort.  Several targets for the taking.  With just under 100 yards to going I see a shadow closing in on me.  I speed up and they answer.  No f-ing way, that shadow is relegated to the back and pudgy guys everywhere rejoice.  Watch puts me under a 5 min pace in the last stretch.

Final result: 2:10:09.  555 overall, 1stin the M100+ age group

Obviously I was thrilled with this outcome.  9’50” pace on the watch.  Stupidly slow for most of you, but at a racing weight of 225 and 53 years old I’ll take it.  It’s been a long summer of 11-12 minutes miles trudging in the heat and maybe it’s finally paying off.  Not sure what’s up with the placement in the M100+ group.  Afterwards when reaching for a bottle of water in the kiddie pool of ice, I almost did a header right in.  It was good for a bunch of laughs as my hand saved me with my face a foot away.

Now, what’s next:

Well actually I didn’t wait until this week and ran 7 more miles Sunday evening after driving home. Took Monday off sans a 30 min bike ride and 2 mile walk.  Tuesday was a 9 mile run and 2.5 mile walk.  

Beyond that, I’m all in for the Indiana 100 in 2.5 weeks.  Need to get that Burning River stench off of me.

 
With all due respect to everyone here, i honestly think @BassNBrew is the biggest bad-### here.

What he can pull off on a regular basis makes me laugh, cry, cringe, high five, raise my fist in his honor, shake my head, giggle, bow down in his glory.....all of it.

He is what la-di-da was invented for. Awesome work Brew.

And your son - ran a 1:44 with 20 miles of training - what the hell the mutha fook..... :lmao: The apple does not fall far from the tree.

 
Easy 10 tonight followed by 6 mile walk on the treadmill. Sore as crap, looking forward to taper time. Also challenging the sub 220 barrier. Been dancing around that the last couple of days

 
Easy 10 tonight followed by 6 mile walk on the treadmill. Sore as crap, looking forward to taper time. Also challenging the sub 220 barrier. Been dancing around that the last couple of days
And danced right above it this morning.   :hot:

 

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