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I’m almost exactly 2.25 with 1:39:xx / 3:44:59.  

Must get more better.  Guess I feel a bit better that the HM is from this year and marathon is last year. Should be able to adjust that numerator later this winter. 

 
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The Iguana said:
On a different note, I'm here to solicit advice I make no promises to follow! :D  

Saturday is my HM race, you might have heard me mention it once or twice! Anyway, I've been debating how I want to race it - from just treating it like an easy training run with a lot of friends (about a .03% chance) up to trying to run sub 1:40... My PR is 1:43:22 from May.

So, tonight I went out for one last hard run. I had a dream of doing a semi la-ti-da 6.6 at a 7:35 ish pace and, if I could do it, then I'd be really convinced to give the 1:40 a go. Well, it was fairly far from a la-ti-da effort but I did 6.6 in 50:13 or 7:36 pace. It was 85*, "feels like 89" out there, and no crowds but my HR was definitely in the "taxed" range before I finished. It's supposed to only be about 50 +/- Saturday morning, which definitley will be nicer than 85ish. 

So, all that in there, I am the type of guy that has to have some kind of plan or I'm likely to just go out and blow myself up. Main goal is to be ready for 26.2 on 11/9 but I really don't think there is any reason I can't race Saturday, right? But with all that, what goal would you recommend? Run at 7:35ish to start with plan to give it all I can for as long as I can? Go out at PR pace and pick it up if I feel good later? Something less? More? Other?

Other than rf;dbap!, what advice you have for me? 
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Just me, but I’m going for broke in any event 2 wk or more before my goal race.  I’ve had goal results with tune up races 3 weeks out

 
MAC_32 said:
@The Iguana race it, but an 6 easy miles both tonight and Sunday are also priority. That'd get you north of 40 miles for the week, which is most important for November's purposes. Isn't any time for a step back week as far as miles are concerned.
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6.25 easy miles at lunch today (9:15 to 9:45 ish pace). Legs felt heavy today. 

 
Going by the stuff posted, my current HM PR is 1:43:22. That * 2.2 = ~3:47:24. So you are saying that #beatgrue isn't impossible!

 
####ty workout today.  Coach said to do 8 x 4 minutes at 600-625 with 2-3 minutes recovery.  So I decided to make it a progression, starting at 6:27 on the first one and working down to 6-flat for the last one, with 2-min recovery jogs.  Felt harder than usual from the beginning, and I was really laboring towards the end of #8 and #9.  Made it a little over halfway through the last rep and then quit because I felt like I was gonna puke. 

Last Saturday I ran a full mile at 6:00 pace at the end of 3 x 4 miles, so this makes no sense.  Either it just wasn't my day, or else the after-effects of that hard 19-miler from last Saturday are lingering a little longer than usual.  I did notice that even my "glue" paces the last couple of runs felt a good 30 seconds harder than they were.

 
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@The Iguana - One other thing.  Use this half marathon as a "dress rehearsal" of sorts to work on your pre-race routine for the marathon.  Get up early, do your neurostim run if you're into that, practice your pre-race nutrition, stretching, etc.  You want that stuff to be as mindless as possible when you line up for 26.2.

 
gruecd said:
@The Iguana - One other thing.  Use this half marathon as a "dress rehearsal" of sorts to work on your pre-race routine for the marathon.  Get up early, do your neurostim run if you're into that, practice your pre-race nutrition, stretching, etc.  You want that stuff to be as mindless as possible when you line up for 26.2.
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Moar beet juice.

 
My HM PR is super soft, so my ratio is skewed.  2:59:25 / 1:27:01 = 2.06

I think I could run 1:25ish right now, which would put me at 2.11

 
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SteelCurtain said:
Ha!  I got 72 hours.  

Just in time for the half marathon I'm pacing on Sunday.
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Goodness gracious.

I’m going with an epsom salt tub, steak and all the water to be good to go in the morning.  Have a great pace experience this weekend, you’re the gold standard. 

 
gruecd said:
@The Iguana - One other thing.  Use this half marathon as a "dress rehearsal" of sorts to work on your pre-race routine for the marathon.  Get up early, do your neurostim run if you're into that, practice your pre-race nutrition, stretching, etc.  You want that stuff to be as mindless as possible when you line up for 26.2.
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Thanks. I have had pretty much the same routine for the 3 HMs I've done. Expect to do about the same here - get up, eat, poop, get dressed, get to the race site early, do a shortish easy run, hopefully poop again, stretch some, fine a nice spot in the starting corral, stretch some more, make some friends, run. Only one that went a little different was Carmel, but that's because it was so miserably raining. Didn't get to the corral starting area since until last minute and did the stretching in a sheltered area out of the rain. Still the best start to a race with basically walking right into @ChiefD at the starting line!

 
left out "get an ice tea from the gas station near home". usually have water with breakfast but have drank part of an ice tea on the way to the race. 

 
The Iguana said:
:sadbanana:

I really just want to know when @gianmarco is going to commit to doing a full. That's the real question I want answers too!
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I'll do a MAFathon before I do a marathon.

I don't even know if I know how to race anymore. This 15K coming up in less than 2 months is going to be really interesting. 

My current interest level in doing a full is pretty non-existent right now.  When I can start getting to 40mpw consistently, I'll start to entertain the thought.  And even then....

 
gianmarco said:
When I can start getting to 40mpw consistently, I'll start to entertain the thought.  And even then....
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Meh. You don't need to do this yet. Do what you are doing, and save those 40-50 mile weeks for when you are in your training cycle.  You'll need to save up the goodwill with the family for that 18 week training block when you'll be taking up a lot of time running.

 
gianmarco said:
I'll do a MAFathon before I do a marathon.

I don't even know if I know how to race anymore. This 15K coming up in less than 2 months is going to be really interesting. 

My current interest level in doing a full is pretty non-existent right now.  When I can start getting to 40mpw consistently, I'll start to entertain the thought.  And even then....
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I'm still not sure how I signed up to try one before you did. Seems unfathomable to me. Seeing things you've posted at times and from past experience, I swear I thought you'd jump in whole hog to do one by now. 

 
gianmarco said:
Because they are a bunch of crack dealers in this thread and you are weaker than me.
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:goodposting:

All of a sudden I have a 99-minute goal for my HM in Nov and my "Fun Run" in Houston in Jan is starting to become much more serious.  All after I swore-off street marathons not just three months ago.

You #BMFs are enablers. 

 
jb1020 said:
I'm too lazy to dig it back up, but whoever told me I wouldn't run when in China because of the air was not joking.  Holy ####, it was soup every where we went.  Practically did not see the sun for 17 days.  I saw one small group of people running around a park one night, but that was it.    

Never been so happy to be home.  Little girl is doing great.   Its like she's been part of the family this whole time.  

It was 99 here yesterday, but I managed to slog thru a very slow run this morning.  I hope to get back in a groove sooner rather than later.  
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Oh man, I missed your post before the trip. Did you adopt there? Congrats :D

How was the trip overall? We miss it and hope to go back in a few years. 

 
jb1020 said:
I'm too lazy to dig it back up, but whoever told me I wouldn't run when in China because of the air was not joking.  Holy ####, it was soup every where we went.  Practically did not see the sun for 17 days.  I saw one small group of people running around a park one night, but that was it.    

Never been so happy to be home.  Little girl is doing great.   Its like she's been part of the family this whole time.  

It was 99 here yesterday, but I managed to slog thru a very slow run this morning.  I hope to get back in a groove sooner rather than later.  
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Yeah the air in China is so gross.  

Congratulations on your new baby girl!

 
gianmarco said:
I'll do a MAFathon before I do a marathon.

I don't even know if I know how to race anymore. This 15K coming up in less than 2 months is going to be really interesting. 

My current interest level in doing a full is pretty non-existent right now.  When I can start getting to 40mpw consistently, I'll start to entertain the thought.  And even then....
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3:57:55

 
gruecd said:
My HM PR is super soft, so my ratio is skewed.  2:59:25 / 1:27:01 = 2.06

I think I could run 1:25ish right now, which would put me at 2.11
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Opposite here - 3:08:04/1:23:51 = 2.24. If November goes like I think it could I'll swing the other side of @ChiefD. 

 
9 miles today in beautiful fall weather of 95/61.  Clicked off a few decent miles before the heat was starting to take it's toll.  Despite throttling back on the back half, it was a decent run on possibly the hottest day of the year.

 
ChiefD said:
Can you explain this to a math challenged dunderhead like me.

I know the 2 represents 2X your half pace. But what is the .15 - .25? Is that a percentage? Help me decipher this witchcraft.
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:lol:

We're going off best, recent, or current ability? 

1:30:24 / 3:14:00 = 2.15

 
Somebody needs to sign up for something the weekend of Nov 2. This gets us races to monitor every weekend from now until after Dec 7.

 
-OZ- said:
Oh man, I missed your post before the trip. Did you adopt there? Congrats :D

How was the trip overall? We miss it and hope to go back in a few years. 
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Yeah, we adopted a 4 year old girl.  Been almost a 2 year process.  

The Great Wall was awesome.  Otherwise we really didn't get to do very much. Saw all the Olympic stuff in Beijing.  Only spent 2 days in Beijing and it was a blur.  After that we went to Wuhan to get our girl.  That was a pretty cool place.  Spent 6 days there, but it was  a lot of adoption appointments and seeing the orphanage..stuff like that.  

Then we had to go to Guangzho for 8 days.  A few more appointments there, but went to a pretty cool Zoo and had a nice park nearby.  We were pretty much worn out and ready to get back by this point.  

@Zasada between smog, heat and humidity and our personal exhaustion it was pretty awful.  Our first 2 days in Beijing were decent, but after that it was bad.  I'd never been in anything like that.  You could run your finger across a window of any building and it would be covered in black soot.  

 
jb1020 said:
@Zasada between smog, heat and humidity and our personal exhaustion it was pretty awful.  Our first 2 days in Beijing were decent, but after that it was bad.  I'd never been in anything like that.  You could run your finger across a window of any building and it would be covered in black soot.  
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Yup, no way in hell I'm running in that crap.  I didn't even want to walk in it when I was there.  You blow your nose and the kleenex is black.  Ugh.

 
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jb1020 said:
Yeah, we adopted a 4 year old girl.  Been almost a 2 year process.  

The Great Wall was awesome.  Otherwise we really didn't get to do very much. Saw all the Olympic stuff in Beijing.  Only spent 2 days in Beijing and it was a blur.  After that we went to Wuhan to get our girl.  That was a pretty cool place.  Spent 6 days there, but it was  a lot of adoption appointments and seeing the orphanage..stuff like that.  

Then we had to go to Guangzho for 8 days.  A few more appointments there, but went to a pretty cool Zoo and had a nice park nearby.  We were pretty much worn out and ready to get back by this point.  

@Zasada between smog, heat and humidity and our personal exhaustion it was pretty awful.  Our first 2 days in Beijing were decent, but after that it was bad.  I'd never been in anything like that.  You could run your finger across a window of any building and it would be covered in black soot.  
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Sounds a lot like our experience including timeline, except we didn't spend time in Beijing. Didn't get to go to the zoo either, it was storming that day, instead we went to a pretty cool museum.  

Guangzho was decent, hotel was easily the nicest we've ever been in. Did you have a tour guide?

But man we really miss Nanning and need to go back to Beihai (where our girl was abandoned at 2).  

Looks like you were quite a bit further North (Beihai is really close to Vietnam). 

Welcome back, be sure to enjoy these next few weeks with your girl. They're stressful but awesome. Your fitness will come back.

 
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Completed my biggest week in a long time - Saturday - Friday, 52.6 miles. Wanted to get in two marathons but went a little long today. 

Tomorrow is a "rest day" - drive 8 hours to the beach (HHI). I'm not sure how many miles I'll get in while we're there, but I plan on running 6 days. 

Just realized, with the 14 miles on the bike Saturday, that's 66.6 miles 😬😈

 
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