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Juxtatarot said:
High forties tomorrow morning with a 6 mph wind out of the SW.  

I know a nice easy mile downhill that goes mostly S and a little W nearby.  Might give it a shot. 
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When is the earliest day we can do this for score? I am impressed everyone else is looking for an edge and you’re going out of your way to run into the wind.

 
pbm107 said:
When is the earliest day we can do this for score? I am impressed everyone else is looking for an edge and you’re going out of your way to run into the wind.
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Yeah I thought this wasn't happening until Apr?  The 1 mile not until May?

 
DA RAIDERS said:
knocked another minute off....9:03  :flex:  y'all scared yet?   :lmao:  shooting for 8 next

anyone know what to do with patellar tendon pain.  lower portion, where it connects to the bone.  i have to run for a about a half mile, before it stops hurting.  

i'm really pleasantly surprised that my knees, overall, haven't been hurting very much.  i just might be able to run on the regular again/   :pickle:   i have lost 20 lbs and gotten into muuuuuuch better shape, than the last time i ran.  who knew?  
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Nah, only focusing on increasing speed will just expedite your exit to the IR. 

 
:(

Knee flared up with a vengeance.  It had been improving all last week, got out for my 5 mile workout yesterday and had no pain whatsoever.  Figured I was in the clear.  Boy was I wrong.  Felt it almost immediately today when I started up and finally had to stop after a little after 3 miles.  Walked the final 1.5 miles home.  Pain was the worst it's been and kept increasing the further I went.

No choice but to shut it down at this point until it's completely gone or I'm going to play this dance for a while.  Will take off at least this week and maybe more.  I know this isn't as bad as what some of you others are going through, but feels like such a waste for where I was getting ready to start this cycle.  That said, won't do me any good if I can't get out there so need to just get this right. 

Any more room on Grue's IR?

 
MAC_32 said:
Nah, only focusing on increasing speed will just expedite your exit to the IR. 
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i'm still cruising.  and...it's a joke.  

my #1 goal in this health crusade, i've been on over the last few years, is to not hurt myself.  i've done pretty well, in that regard.  one of my faults/strengths has always been a willingness to push through pain/go all out.  that wasn't working.  at all.  especially,  going from zero working out, to full bore, 4-5 times a week.  it's fun to run again, with not too much pain.  you're familiar with my approach, from the other thread.  or, maybe you never read my posts.   :kicksrock:

 
gianmarco said:
No choice but to shut it down at this point until it's completely gone
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I know you’re the doctor, but I like this idea. Play the long game, hopefully it’s nothing too serious. Be careful with the knee and I hope they’re are giving you what you need to be safe at work.

 
pbm107 said:
When is the earliest day we can do this for score? I am impressed everyone else is looking for an edge and you’re going out of your way to run into the wind.
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Oops, I’d be running N and E.

Won’t count until that June weekend but I like running fast miles more than other distances. Although I hardly ever try it.

 
gianmarco said:
:(

Knee flared up with a vengeance.  It had been improving all last week, got out for my 5 mile workout yesterday and had no pain whatsoever.  Figured I was in the clear.  Boy was I wrong.  Felt it almost immediately today when I started up and finally had to stop after a little after 3 miles.  Walked the final 1.5 miles home.  Pain was the worst it's been and kept increasing the further I went.

No choice but to shut it down at this point until it's completely gone or I'm going to play this dance for a while.  Will take off at least this week and maybe more.  I know this isn't as bad as what some of you others are going through, but feels like such a waste for where I was getting ready to start this cycle.  That said, won't do me any good if I can't get out there so need to just get this right. 

Any more room on Grue's IR?
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Plenty of room on team @Otis. Are you any good at planking, drinking and/or playing pinball by any chance?

 
My HR has been extra high my last few runs.  I think it's a combo of stress and having done some harder workouts.  V02max is down 2 in the last week (in fairness it had just ticked up one a couple days prior).

Going to keep plowing through but limiting SoS workouts to once a week with maybe a couple fast miles thrown in to an easy day.

 
JShare87 said:
Have to be at the surgery center tomorrow at 6:15 am. Surgery scheduled for 8. I’ll touch base after. I’ll see myself out.
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I’d love to hear more about the lead up, and anything else you’d like to share.  You can PM if you want.  Be well man.  I hope all goes well.  

 
xulf said:
My HR has been extra high my last few runs.  I think it's a combo of stress and having done some harder workouts.  V02max is down 2 in the last week (in fairness it had just ticked up one a couple days prior).

Going to keep plowing through but limiting SoS workouts to once a week with maybe a couple fast miles thrown in to an easy day.
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Might be your body telling you to slow down and take some extra rest/recovery. 

 
gianmarco said:
:(

Knee flared up with a vengeance.  It had been improving all last week, got out for my 5 mile workout yesterday and had no pain whatsoever.  Figured I was in the clear.  Boy was I wrong.  Felt it almost immediately today when I started up and finally had to stop after a little after 3 miles.  Walked the final 1.5 miles home.  Pain was the worst it's been and kept increasing the further I went.

No choice but to shut it down at this point until it's completely gone or I'm going to play this dance for a while.  Will take off at least this week and maybe more.  I know this isn't as bad as what some of you others are going through, but feels like such a waste for where I was getting ready to start this cycle.  That said, won't do me any good if I can't get out there so need to just get this right. 

Any more room on Grue's IR?
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#### man. You ever try any of the Kelly Starrett guidance for knee or other stuff, might be some relief to calm it down.  I have had some success with the ball behind the knee squeeze and voodoo flossing above/below/on knee. I have the Ready to Run book and he has tons of you tube content for you to check out, not dr google so it’s ok, right?!?  
#notadoctor

 
DA RAIDERS said:
i'm still cruising.  and...it's a joke.  

my #1 goal in this health crusade, i've been on over the last few years, is to not hurt myself.  i've done pretty well, in that regard.  one of my faults/strengths has always been a willingness to push through pain/go all out.  that wasn't working.  at all.  especially,  going from zero working out, to full bore, 4-5 times a week.  it's fun to run again, with not too much pain.  you're familiar with my approach, from the other thread.  or, maybe you never read my posts.   :kicksrock:
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I am familiar. It won't work running. You need to slow down or you will get injured. Pick and choose your spots for speed but err on the side of very conservative in the early stages (and preferably not at all).

 
bushdocda said:
#### man. You ever try any of the Kelly Starrett guidance for knee or other stuff, might be some relief to calm it down.  I have had some success with the ball behind the knee squeeze and voodoo flossing above/below/on knee. I have the Ready to Run book and he has tons of you tube content for you to check out, not dr google so it’s ok, right?!?  
#notadoctor
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Even though it's not my specialty, I'm like 99.9% sure it's patellofemoral pain or patellar tendonitis.  It's a specific spot on the inside and lower part of my kneecap. There's a spot I can push on that hurts. It's right where the tendon inserts.

When I'm sitting here now, no pain. When I stopped running and walked, no pain. Most everything else, no pain. But with each running step, it grows from a feeling to an ache to worsening pain until I stop. I also feel it climbing up stairs or if I'm sitting and try to lift and straighten my leg at the knee. And that's only right now. Last week, as it got better, none of those things hurt at all except for running on it after a certain time. I otherwise had no idea anything was wrong.

It's an inflamed area for sure. It doesn't feel "damaged" and it's not a sharp or worrisome pain. But, both of those I listed above can be due to overuse and the best (and really main way) to fix it is rest. I'll do some ice, some stretching, some NSAIDs, but in the end, I just need to stop reaggravating it.

I'm an idiot because I took it easy last week and only ran 8 miles total but I would have been better off doing 0 and just eating the fitness loss. Now I've lost that bit of fitness and I'm no better off than I was when it started. I'm frustrated with myself for not being smarter about it even though I knew what I should have done.  It's just that it would feel great for 3 days and I'd try and see if it was gone. At least I would stop each time I started feeling something which is probably why it gradually improved.

It was definitely getting better, though, and it really was great yesterday with no pain at all. But that workout flared it up because I felt it right away today despite running slowly. It didn't matter if I ran slow or fast today. 

It'll get better.

 
You did the right thing. Unfortunately with that injury the only way you could find out if it was still a problem was by trying to run through it. 

 
MAC_32 said:
You did the right thing. Unfortunately with that injury the only way you could find out if it was still a problem was by trying to run through it. 
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Well, and today, I was like "#### it", it's not that bad, and I'm just going to deal with it. 3 miles in, that plan was no longer feasible. What had been, at worst like a 3/10 ache was a legit 6-7 and getting worse. I realized every step I kept taking was probably delaying my time back. 

The best way to describe it is like what it feels like when you sit in a chair and bang your knee on a desk? That feeling with every step.

 
gianmarco said:
Well, and today, I was like "#### it", it's not that bad, and I'm just going to deal with it. 3 miles in, that plan was no longer feasible. What had been, at worst like a 3/10 ache was a legit 6-7 and getting worse. I realized every step I kept taking was probably delaying my time back. 

The best way to describe it is like what it feels like when you sit in a chair and bang your knee on a desk? That feeling with every step.
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Silver lining, it being that bad leaves no doubt that shutting it down is the right move. 

 
Dr_Zaius said:
To me, unless you're running down the side of a freaking mountain, I think the concerns about net downhill are overblown.  It's hard enough to find a 5K or 10K route for most of us that doesn't involve road crossings, weaving around pedestrians, uneven surfaces, etc.  If you manage to somehow map out a course that nets you 200 feet elevation drop over 5K, that's probably worth 20-30 seconds over the full distance, and that's assuming it's a nice constant downhill.  Frankly I suspect even in that scenario it's a wash compared to a track due to the aforementioned irregularities.  Unless you're running a USATF certified road course, I don't see who would be entitled to throw stones about others' routes.
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Found my 5k  and mile route already. Greenway, maybe cross a bridge, and a loop. Only cross a few intersections. Flat as a pancake.

 
xulf said:
My HR has been extra high my last few runs.  I think it's a combo of stress and having done some harder workouts.  V02max is down 2 in the last week (in fairness it had just ticked up one a couple days prior).

Going to keep plowing through but limiting SoS workouts to once a week with maybe a couple fast miles thrown in to an easy day.
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mine has been a little elevated too - part is having to rest my ankle a little, part is the warmer temps but I think part is something @Juxtatarot mentioned recently - I don't think I'm drinking as much water as I usually do. at work I have a larger water cup that I fill up more often than I've been filling up the smaller one I have here at home. I need to make a more conscience effort to make sure I'm hydrating properly, IMO.

 
The Iguana said:
mine has been a little elevated too - part is having to rest my ankle a little, part is the warmer temps but I think part is something @Juxtatarot mentioned recently - I don't think I'm drinking as much water as I usually do. at work I have a larger water cup that I fill up more often than I've been filling up the smaller one I have here at home. I need to make a more conscience effort to make sure I'm hydrating properly, IMO.
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You know, that may be the issue or at least contributing to it.  Looking at my data, my resting HR has been up ~10bpm since last Monday.  Same day as my mandatory WFH. 

Stress level is up with WFH and handling the kids when my wife goes in for work (oh, and you know, the pandemic and the economy going to hell).  But, my hydration has also been terrible and I've been hammering caffeine-- double trouble there.  I'm going to load up on the water and take tomorrow off and hopefully it works itself out.

 
MAC_32 said:
I am familiar. It won't work running. You need to slow down or you will get injured. Pick and choose your spots for speed but err on the side of very conservative in the early stages (and preferably not at all).
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i ran track a million years ago.  i know enough,  to not hurt myself. :oldunsure:   every and all references to racing you running dudes is a joke.  i am NOT, repeat NOT,  trying to hit some personal best or anything.  i am running a very slow mile.  no more.   1 very slow mile.  

good looking out.

 
gianmarco said:
Even though it's not my specialty, I'm like 99.9% sure it's patellofemoral pain or patellar tendonitis.  It's a specific spot on the inside and lower part of my kneecap. There's a spot I can push on that hurts. It's right where the tendon inserts.

When I'm sitting here now, no pain. When I stopped running and walked, no pain. Most everything else, no pain. But with each running step, it grows from a feeling to an ache to worsening pain until I stop. I also feel it climbing up stairs or if I'm sitting and try to lift and straighten my leg at the knee. And that's only right now. Last week, as it got better, none of those things hurt at all except for running on it after a certain time. I otherwise had no idea anything was wrong.

It's an inflamed area for sure. It doesn't feel "damaged" and it's not a sharp or worrisome pain. But, both of those I listed above can be due to overuse and the best (and really main way) to fix it is rest. I'll do some ice, some stretching, some NSAIDs, but in the end, I just need to stop reaggravating it.

I'm an idiot because I took it easy last week and only ran 8 miles total but I would have been better off doing 0 and just eating the fitness loss. Now I've lost that bit of fitness and I'm no better off than I was when it started. I'm frustrated with myself for not being smarter about it even though I knew what I should have done.  It's just that it would feel great for 3 days and I'd try and see if it was gone. At least I would stop each time I started feeling something which is probably why it gradually improved.

It was definitely getting better, though, and it really was great yesterday with no pain at all. But that workout flared it up because I felt it right away today despite running slowly. It didn't matter if I ran slow or fast today. 

It'll get better.
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-OZ- said:
News flash (which everyone knew)

@gruecd is an ###. Stupid 100 pushup challenge, showing me how much I've lost these past few years. 🤬
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I’m partly to blame.  He texted me this morning saying “i can only workout so much”.  So i said do a push up challenge.....thinking he could just do it himself.    Now he recruited 25 of us to do this stupid thing.  
 

I gotta go do push-ups 81 through 100 now.

 
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