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This is why I love Monumental.
If I were anywhere near there Philly really is the perfect day, the Sunday before Thanksgiving. 8 weeks of build-up training in summer then 10 in fall - with peak in the best training month (October). If I'm still doing this stuff in 10-15 years I'll be surprised if I don't give that one a go.

 
If I were anywhere near there Philly really is the perfect day, the Sunday before Thanksgiving. 8 weeks of build-up training in summer then 10 in fall - with peak in the best training month (October). If I'm still doing this stuff in 10-15 years I'll be surprised if I don't give that one a go.
When you do, I’ll be ready to do it with you. The timing of Rehoboth (first week of December) is pretty good too but I struggle with the gravel surface. The timing of Philadelphia is ideal for me.

 
I ran across some motivational YouTube videos with David Goggins. He's a former Navy Seal, ultra marathoner, author, and a few other things. Pretty crazy story. 

Is he popular in the running world?

 
For me a Nov / Dec marathon makes most sense. Can run through summer more with a strength and volume approach, training focus & intense intensity ramps in aug/sep/oct so conditions improve as you go. Best I can come up with. Dark winter is tougher for me so spring marathon is something I haven’t tried yet. 
You're in Maryland, right?

The NCR Trail Marathon is great. The Saturday of Thanksgiving weekend, flat as a pancake, and well-supported (by volunteers, not crowds, of which there are almost none).

It used to start at the public elementary school nearby, so the first mile was downhill to the rail-trail, and the last mile was back uphill to the finish which was less than ideal. But they moved the start to a private school right next to the trail, now it's just 13.1 miles out and 13.1 back, all on the trail.

Beginning to kick around the idea of doing it this year though I know I won't be ready to take a shot at a BQ by then. Plus who knows if it will even happen

 
I ran across some motivational YouTube videos with David Goggins. He's a former Navy Seal, ultra marathoner, author, and a few other things. Pretty crazy story. 

Is he popular in the running world?
Not with me ;).  Read his book and not a fan of his glorification of playing through significant injuries

 
Dammit.  Thanks Doc, just made an appointment for this afternoon to get it checked out.
Good.

This was the bone that got literally pulled apart by my ####ed up tendon during my IM training. I kept running through it until I couldn't take the pain and was concerned getting to the starting line the IM was in jeopardy. Smart of you to deal with it pronto.

 
You're in Maryland, right?

The NCR Trail Marathon is great. The Saturday of Thanksgiving weekend, flat as a pancake, and well-supported (by volunteers, not crowds, of which there are almost none).

It used to start at the public elementary school nearby, so the first mile was downhill to the rail-trail, and the last mile was back uphill to the finish which was less than ideal. But they moved the start to a private school right next to the trail, now it's just 13.1 miles out and 13.1 back, all on the trail.

Beginning to kick around the idea of doing it this year though I know I won't be ready to take a shot at a BQ by then. Plus who knows if it will even happen
Yeah I’m off B&A trail above Annapolis. Just had a friend compare that NCR is much less crowded these days than B&A so I will drive up sometime for a shadier less crowded time.  

I have my eye on the BRRC races to see what/if they try to run later this year, they use NCR for a smaller half too per prior year sched.  

 
With my legs a little rested and a LOT of people running the same places I do now (only a couple at our spot in MD), it's been hard to go slow. If somebody passes me, it's all I can do not to try to pass them back, or at least atrip them up. Maybe I need to ease back on the competitive juices.

 
For me a Nov / Dec marathon makes most sense. Can run through summer more with a strength and volume approach, training focus & intense intensity ramps in aug/sep/oct so conditions improve as you go. Best I can come up with. Dark winter is tougher for me so spring marathon is something I haven’t tried yet. 
This is why I hate Boston training. Training is through the heart of the midwest winter (Jan-March), but then the race can be a pleasant or warm spring day.  I'm really gonna feel conflicted in several months ...train through the winter while waiting to see if April is a "go."  I'm much more fortunate given my flexible academic schedule in that I don't have to be running in the early winter darkness as in past years.  But winter marathon training is still irritating.

 
The Barkley Fall Classic

Greetings; 

I know that we have left you in the dark for a long time The situation has been so unpredictable that we did not want to choose a course of action until we had some better idea of what is going to happen

We have some hope right now that a race will be possible, depending on whether we can get our proposal approved by the State Parks Department. But our proposal to the Park will include some major changes:

1) only runners who have previously completed the 50Km under the time limit would be accepted

2) total entry of 250 runners; starting in groups of 25 every 10 minutes

3) Runners would have to carry all their own food Water drops only

4) No drop bags

If you are on the wait list with a previous finish (50Km only) and would like to have a slot this year I expect that there will be room for a lot of you.

laz

 
One of the top running guys in our area that I follow and that coached my son for a bit (who also had the notorious "recreational jogger" post that I posted about in the past) wrote a post this afternoon on Strava.  I just thought I'd put it here as it's just a good reflection for why we're out there.

How I felt when Garmin shutdown!

This weekend fitness fanatics from all over the world struggled to make sense of Garmin shutting down due to a data breach in their system. In the last few years, the convenience of this special piece of technology has spoiled us all. At the palm of our hands, we are able to access data that simply was not around several years ago. Garmin Connect not only inspires our own running but keeps us connected other’s fitness journeys.


I won’t lie, I felt frustrated not being able to view my athlete’s runs. However, in the grand scheme of things I was reminded this was a minor inconvenience at best. I was also reminded of how I got into running in the first place. When I started running at 13 years old, I left my door with a Timex watch on my left wrist, a pair of beat up Nike shoes and long basketball shorts. There were early Garmin watch models on the market but I was not aware of how this technology may benefit my running.


I didn’t know much about GPS watches in general and honestly I didn’t care to know about them. I started running not to brag about the pace or distance I ran. I ran for the love of the sport and sense of accomplishment it made me feel. I can remember on summer days waiting all day to run when the sun died down during dusk. There was nothing more freeing than winding down a day on the back roads near my house. I experienced a feeling I had never felt before in my life. That feeling was gratification and genuine love for pushing my body to the next level.


And I will admit, when I got to high school, I ended up purchasing one of the first Garmin watches. It took me sometimes 10 minutes or longer to get GPS. If we were running in the woods, there was no way GPS was going to pick up. I couldn’t depend on my watch half the time, so I stuck to the routes my mom had measured for me in her car. Also, I had an older brother guiding me in the process and showed me I had everything I needed to enjoy running.


When Garmin crashed a few days ago, it reminded me that this sport is not about a distance or time on your watch. This sport is about putting one foot in front of the other while taking on the challenge of pushing your body to new limits. And while I am extremely grateful for the amazing Garmin technology we have, I also remember that it’s not my watch but it’s the act of running that brings happiness to each and every one of us. Running is pure and it’s not going anywhere. We must not be limited by the information on our watch. We must keep showing up and running for the love of the sport. Happy Running!


 
The Barkley Fall Classic

Greetings; 

I know that we have left you in the dark for a long time The situation has been so unpredictable that we did not want to choose a course of action until we had some better idea of what is going to happen

We have some hope right now that a race will be possible, depending on whether we can get our proposal approved by the State Parks Department. But our proposal to the Park will include some major changes:

1) only runners who have previously completed the 50Km under the time limit would be accepted

2) total entry of 250 runners; starting in groups of 25 every 10 minutes

3) Runners would have to carry all their own food Water drops only

4) No drop bags

If you are on the wait list with a previous finish (50Km only) and would like to have a slot this year I expect that there will be room for a lot of you.

laz
So do you meet the criteria?

 
Hope all is ok. 
Thanks gb.  The xrays didn't show anything.  No obvious fracture in the 5th metatarsal.  Everything around it that should be round and smooth was, so no indication of any sort of avulsion fracture.    If I don't improve in the next week or two we'd do an MRI to see what was going on in the soft tissue.  So just ice, NSAIDs, elevate, and take it easy. I'll mix in some CBD, both oil and a topical.

I also have this bump on the inside of my right heel that has developed in the past couple of years (or maybe I just finally noticed it), so I asked him to xray that as well.  He said it just looks like a slight deformity of the calcaneus, nothing too unusual. He also pointed out a couple of small bone spurs, one on the back of the heel and one underneath, and said it's obvious there has "been some trauma" to the foot.  I asked if 100 mile races would qualify as "some trauma", and he just laughed and said yes.  But that might be why I tend to have more issues (pf, achilles) with my right lower leg than my left.  But since I'm barely running now I don't have any pain on that side, so really nothing to do about it for now.

 
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Thanks gb.  The xrays didn't show anything.  No obvious fracture in the 5th metatarsal.  Everything around it that should be round and smooth was, so no indication of any sort of avulsion fracture.    If I don't improve in the next week or two we'd do an MRI to see what was going on in the soft tissue.  So just ice, NSAIDs, elevate, and take it easy. I'll mix in some CBD, both oil and a topical.

I also have this bump on the inside of my right heel that has developed in the past couple of years (or maybe I just finally noticed it), so I asked him to xray that as well.  He said it just looks like a slight deformity of the calcaneus, nothing too unusual. He also pointed out a couple of small bone spurs, one on the back of the heel and one underneath, and said it's obvious there has "been some trauma" to the foot.  I asked if 100 mile races would qualify as "some trauma", and he just laughed and said yes.  But that might be why I tend to have more issues (pf, achilles) with my right lower leg than my left.  But since I'm barely running now I don't have any pain on that side, so really nothing to do about it for now.
Glad to hear.  Obviously not ideal trying to "play doctor" on the internet and I hope you didn't find the advice or the visit today as a waste.  Just didn't want something to potentially get worse and sideline you even longer. 

 
Glad to hear.  Obviously not ideal trying to "play doctor" on the internet and I hope you didn't find the advice or the visit today as a waste.  Just didn't want something to potentially get worse and sideline you even longer. 
Not at all, I appreciate the concern and the advice.  I feel better having had it checked out than worrying that it might be ball cancer (Dr. Google said that was a possibility, too).

 
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Running is pure and it’s not going anywhere. We must not be limited by the information on our watch. We must keep showing up and running for the love of the sport. Happy Running!
On yesterday's run, early on I passed a runner in a Dominican shirt, so I called out "Go Stars!"  He called back to me, so I turned around to hear what he said.  Turns out he was one of our cross country alums who ran for just one year and remembered me coming out to the races, so he was pleased to bump into me again.  We chatted briefly about what he was up to.  Later on, I was paused by exiting traffic at an expressway overpass.  Those overpasses are usually worked by 'homeless' folks (actually well-organized: we've seen shift changes).  As I waited on traffic, a guy who was going to walk the line and solicit money approached.  He pointed/motioned to me, slightly puzzled, as in "you workin' this corner?"  I smiled and told him it was all his. (No one offered me any loose change.)

Love of the sport.  You never know what experiences you'll have.

 
Yeah I’m off B&A trail above Annapolis. Just had a friend compare that NCR is much less crowded these days than B&A so I will drive up sometime for a shadier less crowded time.  

I have my eye on the BRRC races to see what/if they try to run later this year, they use NCR for a smaller half too per prior year sched.  
Let me know sometime when you’re coming up this way

Though even NCR is getting bad - lots of middle aged ##### bros on bikes. Hopefully it will get better when the heat ends. Won’t go on Saturday right now and even Sunday is kind of a mess after about 9:30

 
Got out for my first (non-aborted) street run in three weeks.  Butt was good for 0.5km and then decided to yell at me for the rest.  HR was crazy, given the heat and the break from running.  I'm always shocked at how much my HR climbs with even a little break.

152 SI (79F/73F).  I finally have a scale here in DFW, so I weighed myself before (166.2lbs) and after (162.4lbs).  Anyone have that link for me to input?  Also I need a decision from the judges.  The "after" weight was with me still dripping sweat (hair soaked), so I showered and dried myself off and weighed myself again.  161.8lbs -- do I use the "right after my run weight" or the "dry weight"?

And almost got my first dog bite this morning.  It isn't unusual for dogs to bark at me from their yards as I run by. At the end of my run, and as I'm approaching my house (in the dark), I hear a dog barking at me from the direction of my back yard.  I think to myself "ummm, that seems to be coming from *my* yard, WTF?", and then I look up and see a black lab-sized dog (but not a lab, looked like a mix) barreling at me and barking up a storm.  Figured it would be the first bite for me in my running career.  But, I imagined in the past what I would do, so I was as friendly to the dog as possible as it approached me, put my hand down and used a friendly tone.  It kept barking at me, but didn't bite.  I see the owner come running after it, and I'm about to give her #### for having her dog off-leash on the streets, and then see the leash on the dog.  She's apologizing profusely and says the dog bolted and she lost her grip (not surprising given that it was dark).  She was so apologetic, and I didn't get bit, so despite getting the crap scared out of me, I said "no harm, no foul" and resumed running.

I guess that's a long story about not getting bit, but it's been so long since I've had a run, let alone a running story, I figured I would share.

 
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One of the top running guys in our area that I follow and that coached my son for a bit (who also had the notorious "recreational jogger" post that I posted about in the past) wrote a post this afternoon on Strava.  I just thought I'd put it here as it's just a good reflection for why we're out there.

How I felt when Garmin shutdown!

This weekend fitness fanatics from all over the world struggled to make sense of Garmin shutting down due to a data breach in their system. In the last few years, the convenience of this special piece of technology has spoiled us all. At the palm of our hands, we are able to access data that simply was not around several years ago. Garmin Connect not only inspires our own running but keeps us connected other’s fitness journeys.


I won’t lie, I felt frustrated not being able to view my athlete’s runs. However, in the grand scheme of things I was reminded this was a minor inconvenience at best. I was also reminded of how I got into running in the first place. When I started running at 13 years old, I left my door with a Timex watch on my left wrist, a pair of beat up Nike shoes and long basketball shorts. There were early Garmin watch models on the market but I was not aware of how this technology may benefit my running.


I didn’t know much about GPS watches in general and honestly I didn’t care to know about them. I started running not to brag about the pace or distance I ran. I ran for the love of the sport and sense of accomplishment it made me feel. I can remember on summer days waiting all day to run when the sun died down during dusk. There was nothing more freeing than winding down a day on the back roads near my house. I experienced a feeling I had never felt before in my life. That feeling was gratification and genuine love for pushing my body to the next level.


And I will admit, when I got to high school, I ended up purchasing one of the first Garmin watches. It took me sometimes 10 minutes or longer to get GPS. If we were running in the woods, there was no way GPS was going to pick up. I couldn’t depend on my watch half the time, so I stuck to the routes my mom had measured for me in her car. Also, I had an older brother guiding me in the process and showed me I had everything I needed to enjoy running.


When Garmin crashed a few days ago, it reminded me that this sport is not about a distance or time on your watch. This sport is about putting one foot in front of the other while taking on the challenge of pushing your body to new limits. And while I am extremely grateful for the amazing Garmin technology we have, I also remember that it’s not my watch but it’s the act of running that brings happiness to each and every one of us. Running is pure and it’s not going anywhere. We must not be limited by the information on our watch. We must keep showing up and running for the love of the sport. Happy Running!
Dumbest post evah

Sport is all about looking good.  The clothes, the shoes, the gear, the selfie pics ... that is all that matters.  Without the glorification of the media aspect of running, what are we left with?  We are left with suffering, misery, pain and sweat.  I can say from experience here that none of you shovelheads care at all about the misery and pain, its all about the glorification of the suck index and what nice ####### tree I ran by and took a picture of.  Lets be honest, we care more about stopping our watches when the wind blows so that it doesnt impact our pace in a negative way.  Heavan forbid we have a poor running pace displayed to the world.  ####, I bet we have more deleted activities because we were embarassed to be having an off day.  I mean, lets put the warmup in its own activity with a special label like "super slow warmup pace; recovery, im like walking here - dont judge me, pre-run :: getting pumped #kickass #bigdealrunner".  Then lets also pause our watches as we walk the aid the stations, lets pause our watches at the red lights, and of course pause our watches when we are pooping our brains out.  Because if we are being real, like truly honest with ourselves, keeping up appearances is what running is about.

:micdrop:

 
Got out for my first (non-aborted) street run in three weeks.  Butt was good for 0.5km and then decided to yell at me for the rest.  HR was crazy, given the heat and the break from running.  I'm always shocked at how much my HR climbs with even a little break.

152 SI (79F/73F).  I finally have a scale here in DFW, so I weighed myself before (166.2lbs) and after (162.4lbs).  Anyone have that link for me to input?  Also I need a decision from the judges.  The "after" weight was with me still dripping sweat (hair soaked), so I showered and dried myself off and weighed myself again.  161.8lbs -- do I use the "right after my run weight" or the "dry weight"?

And almost got my first dog bite this morning.  It isn't unusual for dogs to bark at me from their yards as I run by. At the end of my run, and as I'm approaching my house (in the dark), I hear a dog barking at me from the direction of my back yard.  I think to myself "ummm, that seems to be coming from *my* yard, WTF?", and then I look up and see a black lab-sized dog (but not a lab, looked like a mix) barreling at me and barking up a storm.  Figured it would be the first bite for me in my running career.  But, I imagined in the past what I would do, so I was as friendly to the dog as possible as it approached me, put my hand down and used a friendly tone.  It kept barking at me, but didn't bite.  I see the owner come running after it, and I'm about to give her #### for having her dog off-leash on the streets, and then see the leash on the dog.  She's apologizing profusely and says the dog bolted and she lost her grip (not surprising given that it was dark).  She was so apologetic, and I didn't get bit, so despite getting the crap scared out of me, I said "no harm, no foul" and resumed running.

I guess that's a long story about not getting bit, but it's been so long since I've had a run, let alone a running story, I figured I would share.
:useless:

 
Dumbest post evah

Sport is all about looking good.  The clothes, the shoes, the gear, the selfie pics ... that is all that matters.  Without the glorification of the media aspect of running, what are we left with?  We are left with suffering, misery, pain and sweat.  I can say from experience here that none of you shovelheads care at all about the misery and pain, its all about the glorification of the suck index and what nice ####### tree I ran by and took a picture of.  Lets be honest, we care more about stopping our watches when the wind blows so that it doesnt impact our pace in a negative way.  Heavan forbid we have a poor running pace displayed to the world.  ####, I bet we have more deleted activities because we were embarassed to be having an off day.  I mean, lets put the warmup in its own activity with a special label like "super slow warmup pace; recovery, im like walking here - dont judge me, pre-run :: getting pumped #kickass #bigdealrunner".  Then lets also pause our watches as we walk the aid the stations, lets pause our watches at the red lights, and of course pause our watches when we are pooping our brains out.  Because if we are being real, like truly honest with ourselves, keeping up appearances is what running is about.

:micdrop:
Not enough hashtags. 
 

The bolded reminds me of my first ever trail race, an 8K (I think) on Angel Island in the S.F. Bay.  I hadn’t been running long and was mostly running roads at the time, and I had my Garmin set to auto-pause if I stopped moving. The “stop light” setting. So the race starts and the few dozen of us start running, and a hundred yards in we hit a staircase. As everyone marches up my Garmin pauses since we we’re moving so slowly it thought I wasn’t moving at all. A minute or two into my first trail race and I saw how different the mindset was. And I was hooked. 

 
Wanted to do some high intensity work today, and thought I'd try to PR going across the Williamsburg bridge (1.2ish miles), Manhattan to Brooklyn.

It worked... PR w 6:50 pace. Also PRed 1km (3:36) and 1/2m (2:49). I assume the second two happened on the downhill (-160')

 
Dumbest post evah

Sport is all about looking good.  The clothes, the shoes, the gear, the selfie pics ... that is all that matters.  Without the glorification of the media aspect of running, what are we left with?  We are left with suffering, misery, pain and sweat.  I can say from experience here that none of you shovelheads care at all about the misery and pain, its all about the glorification of the suck index and what nice ####### tree I ran by and took a picture of.  Lets be honest, we care more about stopping our watches when the wind blows so that it doesnt impact our pace in a negative way.  Heavan forbid we have a poor running pace displayed to the world.  ####, I bet we have more deleted activities because we were embarassed to be having an off day.  I mean, lets put the warmup in its own activity with a special label like "super slow warmup pace; recovery, im like walking here - dont judge me, pre-run :: getting pumped #kickass #bigdealrunner".  Then lets also pause our watches as we walk the aid the stations, lets pause our watches at the red lights, and of course pause our watches when we are pooping our brains out.  Because if we are being real, like truly honest with ourselves, keeping up appearances is what running is about.

:micdrop:
This right here  :lmao:

I love the "just got over the flu and barely trying" caveats some people feel the need to put on their recovery runs.  Also, the "easy run with my buddy Jack [who is suuuper slow unlike me]" - I was only running slow so my loser buddy could keep up!

ETA : This doesn't apply to people who are genuinely trying to keep a good log for themselves to look at later - it's the ones that you can tell it's all about vanity

 
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This right here  :lmao:

I love the "just got over the flu and barely trying" caveats some people feel the need to put on their recovery runs.  Also, the "easy run with my buddy Jack [who is suuuper slow unlike me]" - I was only running slow so my loser buddy could keep up!

ETA : This doesn't apply to people who are genuinely trying to keep a good log for themselves to look at later - it's the ones that you can tell it's all about vanity
During tapers, I used to wear a t-shirt with "I'M TAPERING" stencilled on the front and back in giant letters.

 
ETA : This doesn't apply to people who are genuinely trying to keep a good log for themselves to look at later - it's the ones that you can tell it's all about vanity
Yeah, I mostly mention my butt pain for when I look at the runs in the future.  So I know to discount them.

 
152 SI (79F/73F).  I finally have a scale here in DFW, so I weighed myself before (166.2lbs) and after (162.4lbs).  Anyone have that link for me to input?  Also I need a decision from the judges.  The "after" weight was with me still dripping sweat (hair soaked), so I showered and dried myself off and weighed myself again.  161.8lbs -- do I use the "right after my run weight" or the "dry weight"?
Link

Rules state that ending weigh in must be completed within 10 minutes of activity ending.  Assuming the second weigh in was after 10 minutes, you should use the first after weight.

 
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Rules state that ending weigh in must be completed within 10 minutes of activity ending.  Assuming the second weigh in was after 10 minutes, you should use the first after weight.
I figured I sweat more than the average runner, but according to this sheet, apparently not.  Need @gruecd to make an entry...

 
Dumbest post evah

Sport is all about looking good.  The clothes, the shoes, the gear, the selfie pics ... that is all that matters.  Without the glorification of the media aspect of running, what are we left with?  We are left with suffering, misery, pain and sweat.  I can say from experience here that none of you shovelheads care at all about the misery and pain, its all about the glorification of the suck index and what nice ####### tree I ran by and took a picture of.  Lets be honest, we care more about stopping our watches when the wind blows so that it doesnt impact our pace in a negative way.  Heavan forbid we have a poor running pace displayed to the world.  ####, I bet we have more deleted activities because we were embarassed to be having an off day.  I mean, lets put the warmup in its own activity with a special label like "super slow warmup pace; recovery, im like walking here - dont judge me, pre-run :: getting pumped #kickass #bigdealrunner".  Then lets also pause our watches as we walk the aid the stations, lets pause our watches at the red lights, and of course pause our watches when we are pooping our brains out.  Because if we are being real, like truly honest with ourselves, keeping up appearances is what running is about.

:micdrop:
Are you not well in the head?  Add a little too much sompin sompin to the morning coffee?  Asking for a friend.

 
Don't want to speak for the man, but I think that JAA's missive is meant to be a reminder that one should be running for oneself, not for plaudits or prestige or because the cool kids are doing it.

 
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